Sustain , how are you managing it this patch?

zer0_sum

Rescue78 wrote: »

Very easily actually, by canceling my sub and switching to a game where the developers actually listen to the player base and respect them.

There is any?!?! Last I checked literally every single mmo game dev is a high horse know it all who listens to little nobody else.

MMO's are managed by people who don't play video games but still somehow feel they know better than anyone.

The gaming industry is a dumpster fire of business big wigs.

Vahrokh

Raiden_Gekkou wrote: »

Perfected False God's on all my magicka characters. Hopefully they don't nerf it for the sake of "diversity."

No, they'll nerf it when a new expansion is ready and they have to sell it. Like in the past, they put in the new BiS gear, BiS skills, perhaps an overpowered class (to nerf 6 months later) and so on.

max_only

Dark Deal.

This is a good time to remind people we need Opposite Resource Siphoning Attacks back in the game. Won’t play a Nightblade without it. Spend resource pool x to gain resource pool x is in the top 3 worst combat designs I’ve ever heard of in my entire life, not an exaggeration.

BalmoraRatgirl

I'm heavy attacking more and making greater use of potions and abilities that return resources. Then when I'm in dungeons I throw out a lot more shards and orbs for my team members. I've definitely felt the difference but adapating to the change hasn't been difficult.

Kaartinen

I was spending more time re-rolling characters than playing these past few months, so I went back to playing my other games.

DraconicFalcon

Rolling Health + Resource recovery Bi stat food instead of Health + max resource or tri-stat food. Worked fine for most of my characters, but my MagDK felt the need to use Spell Symmetry to even sustain despite with extra mag recovery.

lagrue

As a DK I was blessed with Combustion buffs so despite increase DoT costs my sustain has actually gone up, and my DPS remains the same.

DraconicFalcon

lagrue wrote: »

As a DK I was blessed with Combustion buffs so despite increase DoT costs my sustain has actually gone up, and my DPS remains the same.

May I ask what you are running? Although the DK Combustion passive got "buffed", I am usually unable to refresh the burning proc at a consistent rate and it almost feels no different from the previous patch. I can see how sustain could be better for AOE trash mobs, but for ST it's almost no difference had been made to sustain at all.

lagrue

DraconicFalcon wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

As a DK I was blessed with Combustion buffs so despite increase DoT costs my sustain has actually gone up, and my DPS remains the same.

May I ask what you are running? Although the DK Combustion passive got "buffed", I am usually unable to refresh the burning proc at a consistent rate and it almost feels no different from the previous patch. I can see how sustain could be better for AOE trash mobs, but for ST it's almost no difference had been made to sustain at all.

Well I use BSW + Sun + Skoria for gear,

Elemental Blockade, Burning Embers (100% burning proc rate), Obsidian Shard, Molten Whip, Flames of Oblivion. Fire enchants on staff.

Between BSW, Blockade and Burning Embers I am always getting my burn procs.

Against single targets it won't ever be as good but most dungeons or trials feature trash mobs throughout main fights. I can't speak to pvp.

The_Old_Goat

Rescue78 wrote: »

Very easily actually, by canceling my sub and switching to a game where the developers actually listen to the player base and respect them.

Which game is that?

LoneStar2911

Personally, I paid 490,000 gold for a crown exchange tonight (for race change token) to change my main from a dark elf to a breton to help with my sustain.

...... Only to realize I already had 2 race change tokens and wasted the gold to buy more... Derp.

DraconicFalcon

lagrue wrote: »

DraconicFalcon wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

As a DK I was blessed with Combustion buffs so despite increase DoT costs my sustain has actually gone up, and my DPS remains the same.

May I ask what you are running? Although the DK Combustion passive got "buffed", I am usually unable to refresh the burning proc at a consistent rate and it almost feels no different from the previous patch. I can see how sustain could be better for AOE trash mobs, but for ST it's almost no difference had been made to sustain at all.

Well I use BSW + Sun + Skoria for gear,

Elemental Blockade, Burning Embers (100% burning proc rate), Obsidian Shard, Molten Whip, Flames of Oblivion. Fire enchants on staff.

Between BSW, Blockade and Burning Embers I am always getting my burn procs.

Against single targets it won't ever be as good but most dungeons or trials feature trash mobs throughout main fights. I can't speak to pvp.

Interesting, I run Elemental Succession + BSW + Zaan for my setup. Even then, I still have issues sustaining on a 6 million dummy and have to rely on Spell Symmetry to help me out. Have no problems on a trial dummy though. I assume your MagDK is Breton?

zvavi

How am i managing sustain? I am not...

lagrue

DraconicFalcon wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

DraconicFalcon wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

As a DK I was blessed with Combustion buffs so despite increase DoT costs my sustain has actually gone up, and my DPS remains the same.

May I ask what you are running? Although the DK Combustion passive got "buffed", I am usually unable to refresh the burning proc at a consistent rate and it almost feels no different from the previous patch. I can see how sustain could be better for AOE trash mobs, but for ST it's almost no difference had been made to sustain at all.

Well I use BSW + Sun + Skoria for gear,

Elemental Blockade, Burning Embers (100% burning proc rate), Obsidian Shard, Molten Whip, Flames of Oblivion. Fire enchants on staff.

Between BSW, Blockade and Burning Embers I am always getting my burn procs.

Against single targets it won't ever be as good but most dungeons or trials feature trash mobs throughout main fights. I can't speak to pvp.

Interesting, I run Elemental Succession + BSW + Zaan for my setup. Even then, I still have issues sustaining on a 6 million dummy and have to rely on Spell Symmetry to help me out. Have no problems on a trial dummy though. I assume your MagDK is Breton?

Nope, Dunmer (once upon a time it was a good choice). I have 100 in the CP star for Magicka Regen as well though.

barney2525

what is this 'sustain' you speak of?

BRogueNZ

Healing? 2K if I dress for it (no drink no buff)
DPS.. not well but not bad, don't live long enough

Grimm13

Took me a while to get used to it but I think I have the sustained not logging in down good now this past week. Been a peaceful week.

Tommy_The_Gun

After recent nerfs ? I can't sustain anymore without resorting to doing too many heavy attacks. Even on an Argonian (that is suposed to be one of the best races for sustain btw.). I mean I can run 2 potion speed glyphs and maybe it would work, but the sacrefice of other stuff is just too big.

JumpmanLane

i Unno. I run damage because skills are so high a fool might as well feel it lol.

ImSoPro

Idk I still just run witchmothers on a vamp Breton. Tri stat potions when needed. I have noticed a change in my sustain but not as much as others I guess. I’ve always had occasional heavy attacks in my rotation in any fight longer than a couple secs anyway. I actually just switched my Breton to Imperial just because I’ve never played one and figured the extra stam and hp would be nice with red diamond. Slightly worse mag sustain but still manageable.

Edit: Ele drain is a must as well.

Vevvev

MagDK using Witchmother's potent brew, Elemental Drain, and an absorb magicka enchantment. I found its a pretty decent combo for keeping my magicka up in a fight.

Olupajmibanan

Forget about ground AoEs like Lightning Splash and you'll be fine. Also, if you still need some more sustain use Crushing Shock instead of Force Pulse or Elemental Weapon, it has significantly lower cost.

Austinseph1

Skill costs to high and any fight longer than 1 min is pretty crappy without constant synergies and chugging potions. Pretty bland gameplay tbh.

SidraWillowsky

I feel like my sustain is somehow getting worse...

Isn't it about time for the uproar to start for the next patch? I'm terrified about what's going to happen in general but am really hoping they bump sustain up at least a bit. I do not have the sustain to complete a 3 mil dummy parse on most of my characters, which seems absurd, especially for my magplar- she's bled dry within 30 seconds even with perfected false god's, channeled focus, and elemental drain. Guess I need to put a recovery glyph on my bar bar staff....

Neoealth

I've just accepted i need to break my rotation now and again to do extra heavy attacks. My dps took a hit because of it. That and drink a potion on every cool down.

I really hate what zos has done, I don't feel like adapting to the change beyond doing what I'm doing as I'm sick of them changing things now. Who knows what other bs they will implement next time which will render any adapting I made pointless.

Jeremy

iaminc wrote: »

So , with sustain being absolutely butchered this patch how are you all managing your resources? What effect has it had on your builds and how have you adapted?

Switching to Breton may help if you still have some race change tokens left over.

Aznarb

No problem !

(doing this for fun don't take it seriously :>)

ImSoPro

Aznarb wrote: »

No problem !

(doing this for fun don't take it seriously :>)

4300 mag recovery if only a build like this could hit for any damage I would most definitely OD on sustain.

Aznarb

ImSoPro wrote: »

Aznarb wrote: »

No problem !

(doing this for fun don't take it seriously :>)

4300 mag recovery if only a build like this could hit for any damage I would most definitely OD on sustain.

Could have be more if I transmute every jewel to infused, but a bit expensive for a joke :x

Sanguinor2

Trial Sustain works just fine if there is 4 times Symphony of blades