ThePhantomThorn wrote: »I think all pvpers have come across the Templar’s who just spam jabs the entire fight.
They do this and often WIN because jabs is so overloaded.
Here’s my issues:
1: snares. It doesn’t need to. Templar’s have a gap closer, they have mobility. Having a snare is overkill.
2: It pulls NBs out of cloak. Imagine if it cancelled out damage shields. That’s what it’s like when fighting a magplar if cloak is your main defence.
3: healing. As if Templar’s didn’t already have a SPAMMABLE BURST HEAL they also heal of their spammable attack? Magblades do but they have no burst heal. See the unbalance?
4: the damage. The skill itself is ok, the issue is that it procs burning light. That can proc twice every use of the skill. Soo 4K jabs add two 3k burning light is A LOT.
Solution: remove snare, remove aoe portion, reduce damage by 10%. Then it would just have a heal/savagery added to morphs, and the burning light would still do stupid amounts of damage.
WreckfulAbandon wrote: »That death recap isn't helping your case any. I don't see any 3k Burning Light procs, 1.6k sounds about right, and you literally died to a single skill spammed over and over. L2P issue (probably for the guy who killed you too)
Umm. I was afk. Came back after a min to this.WreckfulAbandon wrote: »That death recap isn't helping your case any. I don't see any 3k Burning Light procs, 1.6k sounds about right, and you literally died to a single skill spammed over and over. L2P issue (probably for the guy who killed you too)
This^
OP, You need more PVP experience. Standing there like a target dummy will not work. Smh
Oh, another nerf thread from a PvPer
Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Lol at someone complaining about a cone-shaped melee ability pulling people out of stealth. OP wants cloak to be 3 full seconds of literal invulnerability with no counterplay. No wonder he’s dying to be people who aren’t even light attacking.
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »
Umm. I was afk. Came back after a min to this.
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Umm. I was afk. Came back after a min to this.WreckfulAbandon wrote: »That death recap isn't helping your case any. I don't see any 3k Burning Light procs, 1.6k sounds about right, and you literally died to a single skill spammed over and over. L2P issue (probably for the guy who killed you too)
This^
OP, You need more PVP experience. Standing there like a target dummy will not work. SmhOh, another nerf thread from a PvPer
How else do op things get nerfed?
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Lol at someone complaining about a cone-shaped melee ability pulling people out of stealth. OP wants cloak to be 3 full seconds of literal invulnerability with no counterplay. No wonder he’s dying to be people who aren’t even light attacking.
A - I’m a girl. Don’t assume genders.
B - cloak counters. Aoe, detect pots/ skills. The fact is that if I hit cloak when being attacked by a templar I get pulled out instantly. It’s like if it could turn off damage shields (for nbs anyway)
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Umm. I was afk. Came back after a min to this.WreckfulAbandon wrote: »That death recap isn't helping your case any. I don't see any 3k Burning Light procs, 1.6k sounds about right, and you literally died to a single skill spammed over and over. L2P issue (probably for the guy who killed you too)
This^
OP, You need more PVP experience. Standing there like a target dummy will not work. SmhOh, another nerf thread from a PvPer
How else do op things get nerfed?
Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Lol at someone complaining about a cone-shaped melee ability pulling people out of stealth. OP wants cloak to be 3 full seconds of literal invulnerability with no counterplay. No wonder he’s dying to be people who aren’t even light attacking.
A - I’m a girl. Don’t assume genders.
B - cloak counters. Aoe, detect pots/ skills. The fact is that if I hit cloak when being attacked by a templar I get pulled out instantly. It’s like if it could turn off damage shields (for nbs anyway)
Nightblade is a full and complete class with excellent defensive options without stealth, cloak is a utility spell. If having cloak countered is instant death for you then, as other people in this thread have said, that’s a learn-to-play issue.
mustangmorgan31 wrote: »I will spam jabs if I am against a crap NB that just cloaks. If someone is going to be a pansy and just cloak the entire fight, you are going to get the jab spam.
sfpiesb14_ESO wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Umm. I was afk. Came back after a min to this.WreckfulAbandon wrote: »That death recap isn't helping your case any. I don't see any 3k Burning Light procs, 1.6k sounds about right, and you literally died to a single skill spammed over and over. L2P issue (probably for the guy who killed you too)
This^
OP, You need more PVP experience. Standing there like a target dummy will not work. SmhOh, another nerf thread from a PvPer
How else do op things get nerfed?
You're compiling about a skill and asking for a nerf because it killed you while you were afk?
What is this community coming to?
Just stop with all the nerf threads already jesus christ.
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Ok
I’m going to say this once.
SINCE WHEN IS THIS THREAD ABOUT NIGHTBLADES??
I gave an example. FYI, I play an off meta, squishy, critblade. Spriggans, gryphons, balorghs. A hard spec to play. My defence is cloak and mobility. Jabs counter both. And not all of us run a snare removal. I have no room on my bars. I’d have to drop shade, which I’m not going to.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Lol at someone complaining about a cone-shaped melee ability pulling people out of stealth. OP wants cloak to be 3 full seconds of literal invulnerability with no counterplay. No wonder he’s dying to be people who aren’t even light attacking.
A - I’m a girl. Don’t assume genders.
B - cloak counters. Aoe, detect pots/ skills. The fact is that if I hit cloak when being attacked by a templar I get pulled out instantly. It’s like if it could turn off damage shields (for nbs anyway)
Nightblade is a full and complete class with excellent defensive options without stealth, cloak is a utility spell. If having cloak countered is instant death for you then, as other people in this thread have said, that’s a learn-to-play issue.
Nightblade is the worst class in pvp right now. Burst is impossible to land in lag, low heals, squishy, and what ‘excellent defensive options’?
There is cloak and shade. Nothing elsemustangmorgan31 wrote: »I will spam jabs if I am against a crap NB that just cloaks. If someone is going to be a pansy and just cloak the entire fight, you are going to get the jab spam.
So... damage shields make you an honourable warrior but cloaking on a squishy build makes you a pansy?sfpiesb14_ESO wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Umm. I was afk. Came back after a min to this.WreckfulAbandon wrote: »That death recap isn't helping your case any. I don't see any 3k Burning Light procs, 1.6k sounds about right, and you literally died to a single skill spammed over and over. L2P issue (probably for the guy who killed you too)
This^
OP, You need more PVP experience. Standing there like a target dummy will not work. SmhOh, another nerf thread from a PvPer
How else do op things get nerfed?
You're compiling about a skill and asking for a nerf because it killed you while you were afk?
What is this community coming to?
Just stop with all the nerf threads already jesus christ.
This isn’t the only time jabs has killed me...
Who do you think I am?
If you have EVER been in pvp this patch you will know that 50% of players are magplars and 90% of them just mash jabs. IT IS WORSE THAN THE DOTS
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Umm. I was afk. Came back after a min to this.WreckfulAbandon wrote: »That death recap isn't helping your case any. I don't see any 3k Burning Light procs, 1.6k sounds about right, and you literally died to a single skill spammed over and over. L2P issue (probably for the guy who killed you too)
This^
OP, You need more PVP experience. Standing there like a target dummy will not work. SmhOh, another nerf thread from a PvPer
How else do op things get nerfed?
Someone tell me my reading comprehension is off OP died to jabs while afk and wants it nerfed?
Um wtf??
mustangmorgan31 wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Ok
I’m going to say this once.
SINCE WHEN IS THIS THREAD ABOUT NIGHTBLADES??
I gave an example. FYI, I play an off meta, squishy, critblade. Spriggans, gryphons, balorghs. A hard spec to play. My defence is cloak and mobility. Jabs counter both. And not all of us run a snare removal. I have no room on my bars. I’d have to drop shade, which I’m not going to.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Lol at someone complaining about a cone-shaped melee ability pulling people out of stealth. OP wants cloak to be 3 full seconds of literal invulnerability with no counterplay. No wonder he’s dying to be people who aren’t even light attacking.
A - I’m a girl. Don’t assume genders.
B - cloak counters. Aoe, detect pots/ skills. The fact is that if I hit cloak when being attacked by a templar I get pulled out instantly. It’s like if it could turn off damage shields (for nbs anyway)
Nightblade is a full and complete class with excellent defensive options without stealth, cloak is a utility spell. If having cloak countered is instant death for you then, as other people in this thread have said, that’s a learn-to-play issue.
Nightblade is the worst class in pvp right now. Burst is impossible to land in lag, low heals, squishy, and what ‘excellent defensive options’?
There is cloak and shade. Nothing elsemustangmorgan31 wrote: »I will spam jabs if I am against a crap NB that just cloaks. If someone is going to be a pansy and just cloak the entire fight, you are going to get the jab spam.
So... damage shields make you an honourable warrior but cloaking on a squishy build makes you a pansy?sfpiesb14_ESO wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Umm. I was afk. Came back after a min to this.WreckfulAbandon wrote: »That death recap isn't helping your case any. I don't see any 3k Burning Light procs, 1.6k sounds about right, and you literally died to a single skill spammed over and over. L2P issue (probably for the guy who killed you too)
This^
OP, You need more PVP experience. Standing there like a target dummy will not work. SmhOh, another nerf thread from a PvPer
How else do op things get nerfed?
You're compiling about a skill and asking for a nerf because it killed you while you were afk?
What is this community coming to?
Just stop with all the nerf threads already jesus christ.
This isn’t the only time jabs has killed me...
Who do you think I am?
If you have EVER been in pvp this patch you will know that 50% of players are magplars and 90% of them just mash jabs. IT IS WORSE THAN THE DOTS
If you play a glass cannon, be prepared to die or play another class.
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Ok
I’m going to say this once.
SINCE WHEN IS THIS THREAD ABOUT NIGHTBLADES??
I gave an example. FYI, I play an off meta, squishy, critblade. Spriggans, gryphons, balorghs. A hard spec to play. My defence is cloak and mobility. Jabs counter both. And not all of us run a snare removal. I have no room on my bars. I’d have to drop shade, which I’m not going to.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Lol at someone complaining about a cone-shaped melee ability pulling people out of stealth. OP wants cloak to be 3 full seconds of literal invulnerability with no counterplay. No wonder he’s dying to be people who aren’t even light attacking.
A - I’m a girl. Don’t assume genders.
B - cloak counters. Aoe, detect pots/ skills. The fact is that if I hit cloak when being attacked by a templar I get pulled out instantly. It’s like if it could turn off damage shields (for nbs anyway)
Nightblade is a full and complete class with excellent defensive options without stealth, cloak is a utility spell. If having cloak countered is instant death for you then, as other people in this thread have said, that’s a learn-to-play issue.
Nightblade is the worst class in pvp right now. Burst is impossible to land in lag, low heals, squishy, and what ‘excellent defensive options’?
There is cloak and shade. Nothing elsemustangmorgan31 wrote: »I will spam jabs if I am against a crap NB that just cloaks. If someone is going to be a pansy and just cloak the entire fight, you are going to get the jab spam.
So... damage shields make you an honourable warrior but cloaking on a squishy build makes you a pansy?sfpiesb14_ESO wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Umm. I was afk. Came back after a min to this.WreckfulAbandon wrote: »That death recap isn't helping your case any. I don't see any 3k Burning Light procs, 1.6k sounds about right, and you literally died to a single skill spammed over and over. L2P issue (probably for the guy who killed you too)
This^
OP, You need more PVP experience. Standing there like a target dummy will not work. SmhOh, another nerf thread from a PvPer
How else do op things get nerfed?
You're compiling about a skill and asking for a nerf because it killed you while you were afk?
What is this community coming to?
Just stop with all the nerf threads already jesus christ.
This isn’t the only time jabs has killed me...
Who do you think I am?
If you have EVER been in pvp this patch you will know that 50% of players are magplars and 90% of them just mash jabs. IT IS WORSE THAN THE DOTS
If you play a glass cannon, be prepared to die or play another class.
I am ok with dying
But I die no matter what when I get jumbled on by 5 magplars all mashing jabs. No chance
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Ok
I’m going to say this once.
SINCE WHEN IS THIS THREAD ABOUT NIGHTBLADES??
I gave an example. FYI, I play an off meta, squishy, critblade. Spriggans, gryphons, balorghs. A hard spec to play. My defence is cloak and mobility. Jabs counter both. And not all of us run a snare removal. I have no room on my bars. I’d have to drop shade, which I’m not going to.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Lol at someone complaining about a cone-shaped melee ability pulling people out of stealth. OP wants cloak to be 3 full seconds of literal invulnerability with no counterplay. No wonder he’s dying to be people who aren’t even light attacking.
A - I’m a girl. Don’t assume genders.
B - cloak counters. Aoe, detect pots/ skills. The fact is that if I hit cloak when being attacked by a templar I get pulled out instantly. It’s like if it could turn off damage shields (for nbs anyway)
Nightblade is a full and complete class with excellent defensive options without stealth, cloak is a utility spell. If having cloak countered is instant death for you then, as other people in this thread have said, that’s a learn-to-play issue.
Nightblade is the worst class in pvp right now. Burst is impossible to land in lag, low heals, squishy, and what ‘excellent defensive options’?
There is cloak and shade. Nothing elsemustangmorgan31 wrote: »I will spam jabs if I am against a crap NB that just cloaks. If someone is going to be a pansy and just cloak the entire fight, you are going to get the jab spam.
So... damage shields make you an honourable warrior but cloaking on a squishy build makes you a pansy?sfpiesb14_ESO wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Umm. I was afk. Came back after a min to this.WreckfulAbandon wrote: »That death recap isn't helping your case any. I don't see any 3k Burning Light procs, 1.6k sounds about right, and you literally died to a single skill spammed over and over. L2P issue (probably for the guy who killed you too)
This^
OP, You need more PVP experience. Standing there like a target dummy will not work. SmhOh, another nerf thread from a PvPer
How else do op things get nerfed?
You're compiling about a skill and asking for a nerf because it killed you while you were afk?
What is this community coming to?
Just stop with all the nerf threads already jesus christ.
This isn’t the only time jabs has killed me...
Who do you think I am?
If you have EVER been in pvp this patch you will know that 50% of players are magplars and 90% of them just mash jabs. IT IS WORSE THAN THE DOTS
If you play a glass cannon, be prepared to die or play another class.
I am ok with dying
But I die no matter what when I get jumbled on by 5 magplars all mashing jabs. No chance
jabs need to be removed from eso.
healers are suppose to "heal" they are not supose to be DPS.
the DPS from jabs is just way too strong.
now we allready know that we can walk through jabs and it makes them to no effect but that really is the only way out of them especially if they spam us with disable and also slowing us to make escape completely impossible.
As a med armored bosmer stamblade, how i deal with jabs?
-Shuffle (6 med armor 6 sec immunity) cancelled with roll dodge. I got bow and bosmer speed passive. Im just too fast then and run out easily.
-Jab means, deffense is open. Burst them down from behind,flank.
If jab spam kills someone, that person just moving badly, not using snare removal