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What about CP?

Sheuib
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OK I know it is late in the PTS cycle to mention this but nothing significant has been done with CP in so long that I don't even remember when the last time I added CP to my character. It's even kind of depressing when I get a new CP that I know I can't use. I know certain people don't like CP but most people would like to see their characters get stronger as time goes on. So, can we please either change the system or turn them back on.
  • WrathOfInnos
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    Remember how people used to claim that CP power creep was the reason our skills were getting nerfed? How’s that theory working out?
  • KageNin
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    Remember how their ,,audit'' on DoT' s went? Yeah no thanks
  • ThePhantomThorn
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    What was wrong with vr ranks?
  • Nestor
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    What was wrong with vr ranks?

    You mean besides having to level each character individually to max level?
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  • Nordic__Knights
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    YA i sure hate getting another cp added each time it happens because why never going to get to use it seems im really getting something to do nothing with be nice to work towards something again oh and btw am at 1334 cp was shooting for max but that hopes been long gone
  • BigBragg
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    Remember how people used to claim that CP power creep was the reason our skills were getting nerfed? How’s that theory working out?



    CP still exists and the game is still getting nerfed. (Since we are making oversimplified blanket statements.)
    Edited by BigBragg on October 11, 2019 6:22PM
  • akray21
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    I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.
  • Katahdin
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    akray21 wrote: »
    I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

    They would have to re-balance the whole game again. It would be the 3rd (4th?) time they do so, which is rediculous.

    With the current catch up mechanic, catching up does not take that long.

    People needlessly agonize over their CP.

    Just play the damn game, the CP will come.

    I earned every one of my CP by just playing the game. No grinding XP at all.
    I would like to keep them thanks.
    Edited by Katahdin on October 11, 2019 2:01PM
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  • Odovacar
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    Yeah...we all have pointless CP laying around. I'm getting antsy to see what ZOS has planned but I wouldn't expect anything to be announced until early 2020, imo.

    Lets hope their changes to the current system doesn't create a huge ****storm. Unfortunately, not everyone will be happy as usual.
  • kalunte
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    hum, skills are actually balanced regarding their no-CP state. this is one of the reason the DoT meta messed up so hard, they didnt take into consideration that minmaxers would drop all direct dmg cp and turn them into DoT.

    anyway, i'd like cp to be changed into goodies for playing the game (like crowns) instead of what it is now.
  • akray21
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    akray21 wrote: »
    I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

    They would have to re-balance the whole game again. It would be the 3rd (4th?) time they do so, which is rediculous.

    With the current catch up mechanic, catching up does not take that long.

    People needlessly agonize over their CP.

    Just play the damn game, the CP will come.

    I earned every one of my CP by just playing the game. No grinding XP at all.
    I would like to keep them thanks.

    CP keeps more casual players away, that's a fact. The end of the system is coming, it's just a matter of when.
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    akray21 wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    akray21 wrote: »
    I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

    They would have to re-balance the whole game again. It would be the 3rd (4th?) time they do so, which is rediculous.

    With the current catch up mechanic, catching up does not take that long.

    People needlessly agonize over their CP.

    Just play the damn game, the CP will come.

    I earned every one of my CP by just playing the game. No grinding XP at all.
    I would like to keep them thanks.

    CP keeps more casual players away, that's a fact. The end of the system is coming, it's just a matter of when.

    No it doesn't, and no it isn't. The vast majority of the player base are normal, casual players. Also, why would a casual player need to be concerned with maxing out their toons through CP?
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  • lucky_Sage
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    CP is awful they aren’t increasing it till the rework at as they started before
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  • Deathlord92
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    I like cp there’s no cp options for those who don’t.
  • Katahdin
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    akray21 wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    akray21 wrote: »
    I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

    They would have to re-balance the whole game again. It would be the 3rd (4th?) time they do so, which is rediculous.

    With the current catch up mechanic, catching up does not take that long.

    People needlessly agonize over their CP.

    Just play the damn game, the CP will come.

    I earned every one of my CP by just playing the game. No grinding XP at all.
    I would like to keep them thanks.

    CP keeps more casual players away, that's a fact. The end of the system is coming, it's just a matter of when.
    p00tx wrote:

    No it doesn't, and no it isn't. The vast majority of the player base are normal, casual players. Also, why would a casual player need to be concerned with maxing out their toons through CP?

    Only people driven away over CP are ones that needlessly obsess over it in some sort of inferiority complex.

    It doesnt matter. The current cap is frozen so they can catch up by just playing the game. There have been countless posts about people doing just that.
    Edited by Katahdin on October 11, 2019 7:20PM
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  • Donny_Vito
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    Switching from PC to Console and having no CP made me try so hard to level up so I could reach the top tier. It was an OCD problem for me...I needed to be the max CP for whatever patch we were on. I imagine other new players experience similar issues. To say "just don't worry about it" is utterly useless when it's in my human nature to want to be the best.
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    Donny_Vito wrote: »
    Switching from PC to Console and having no CP made me try so hard to level up so I could reach the top tier. It was an OCD problem for me...I needed to be the max CP for whatever patch we were on. I imagine other new players experience similar issues. To say "just don't worry about it" is utterly useless when it's in my human nature to want to be the best.

    The point is you WILL get there. It's not the games problem if people have to rush and have everything now. You can choose to not listen to that OCD and learn to relax and just let it happen. I had the same problem with motifs until one day I decided I just was not going to obsess over them any more.
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  • Nordic__Knights
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    akray21 wrote: »
    I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

    Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
    So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
    And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on October 11, 2019 9:16PM
  • karekiz
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    BigBragg wrote: »
    Remember how people used to claim that CP power creep was the reason our skills were getting nerfed? How’s that theory working out?



    CP still exists and the game is still getting nerfed. (Since we are making oversimplified blanket statements.)

    The nerfs he means would have been essentially been done with or without CP most likely tbh.
  • Nordic__Knights
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler
    Since cp is being talked about lets talk about why it was placed on hold and capped out
    POWER CREEP!!!!
    well we can tell that it wasn't the case and power creep kept raising tho cp wasn't so now that thats seen can YOU ALL please remove the hold and un cap it so that we VET players can reach our goals of maxing out the whole tree as it was ( mine ) a lot of players goal to do when it first dropped and lots of player stopped even playing because they see no reason to be above the cap ANYMORE so why play when your 1334 cp going NOWHERE in progression in game being held back over something that aint the issue at all
    PLEASE THANK ON THIS AS WE DEFINITELY EARNED EVERY CP WE HAVE PLAYING THE GAME AND TO HOLD THEM FROM US WOULD BE LIKE ME SENDING YOU AN IOU FOR CROWNS NO WAY IN HELL YOU'D OK THAT ONE RIGHT !!!!!!!!!
  • Donny_Vito
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Donny_Vito wrote: »
    Switching from PC to Console and having no CP made me try so hard to level up so I could reach the top tier. It was an OCD problem for me...I needed to be the max CP for whatever patch we were on. I imagine other new players experience similar issues. To say "just don't worry about it" is utterly useless when it's in my human nature to want to be the best.

    The point is you WILL get there. It's not the games problem if people have to rush and have everything now. You can choose to not listen to that OCD and learn to relax and just let it happen. I had the same problem with motifs until one day I decided I just was not going to obsess over them any more.

    I had the same issue with motifs as well. Once I got Grand Master Crafter I was finally able to stop collecting them. But MMOs (and specifically RPGs) know how to keep you hooked. Whether it's CP, motifs, skins, etc... they keep you coming back for more.
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    CP? Hmm... Excuse me while I put on my tinfoil hat...

    Maybe that's the reason for this inane and clueless nerf-a-rama fiasco; so they can remove the cap and we can use it to get back a normal point of enjoying the game again.

    Nah...hat removed. It's too late. :/
  • Blinkin8r
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    Pretty sure they're getting rid of CP at some point. Probably would've been best to get rid of it before completely "rebalancing" every skill in the game but you know how Zos does things...
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    Remember how people used to claim that CP power creep was the reason our skills were getting nerfed? How’s that theory working out?

    CP was never removed...
  • MLGProPlayer
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    karekiz wrote: »
    BigBragg wrote: »
    Remember how people used to claim that CP power creep was the reason our skills were getting nerfed? How’s that theory working out?



    CP still exists and the game is still getting nerfed. (Since we are making oversimplified blanket statements.)

    The nerfs he means would have been essentially been done with or without CP most likely tbh.

    That's pure speculation.
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    akray21 wrote: »
    I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

    Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
    So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
    And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY

    It took me ~1000 hours, over ~2 YEARS, to reach the CP cap at the time (which was around CP 600 then). I didn't do any grinding, I just played the game (quests, dungeons, and trials). It's definitely a VERY long climb to max CP if you don't grind.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on October 11, 2019 10:22PM
  • Nordic__Knights
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    akray21 wrote: »
    I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

    Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
    So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
    And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY

    It took me ~1000 hours, over ~2 YEARS, to reach the CP cap at the time (which was around CP 600 then). I didn't do any grinding, I just played the game (quests, dungeons, and trials). It's definitely a VERY long climb to max CP if you don't grind.

    My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again
    And btw standing around bs in chat aint playing the game so time played dont mean sh#t to me sorry
    And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js
    So you played 1.3hrs per day at 1000hr for 2 years seems you didn't have an goal to hit cp or even play the game js
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on October 11, 2019 11:00PM
  • karekiz
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    That's pure speculation.

    Well they want to make <Especially generic> dots do the "same" as everything right? <At least thats what I understand was their intention. Other than special rule breakers>.

    So with no CP is it "better" it to run Scalebreaker style builds over anything else or not? If so then it would have been nerfed still.
    Edited by karekiz on October 13, 2019 12:04AM
  • b95fister
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    As far as cp goes when and if they remove them i hope they give us a weekend to use all CP we have earned just so I can see what 2k cp can do.

    Please please ZOS!!
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    b95fister wrote: »
    As far as cp goes when and if they remove them i hope they give us a weekend to use all CP we have earned just so I can see what 2k cp can do.

    Please please ZOS!!

    You must be a stamina dk with a name like that
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