What about CP?

idk

Nestor wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

What was wrong with vr ranks?

You mean besides having to level each character individually to max level?

OMG, that was the worst idea for a leveling system ever. Whoever thought of that should be embarrassed.

For OP. Zos (Gina) gave us an update on CP recently, that they are still working on it. If it makes you feel better, with the dr the ~90 points you would have received since they froze the cap would not amount to much difference in our builds.

Nordic__Knights

idk wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

What was wrong with vr ranks?

You mean besides having to level each character individually to max level?

OMG, that was the worst idea for a leveling system ever. Whoever thought of that should be embarrassed.

For OP. Zos (Gina) gave us an update on CP recently, that they are still working on it. If it makes you feel better, with the dr the ~90 points you would have received since they froze the cap would not amount to much difference in our builds.

Ya was odd having 3 v16s and 2 v10s before the change over lol

the1andonlyskwex

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again

Assuming the formula on UESP is correct (and it's certainly closer than whatever your source is) it takes more than 2 daily randoms to gain 1cp if you already have 500cp.

You're a little bit closer for someone with very low cp, but even they only get 2-3 cp per daily random.

As a cp 645 player, it takes me 363k xp to gain 1 cp, and I only get 101k xp for a daily random dungeon. Now, I usually have some enlightenment, but even then it takes almost 2 daily random dungeons to gain 1cp.

The grind is real.

Nordic__Knights

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again

Assuming the formula on UESP is correct (and it's certainly closer than whatever your source is) it takes more than 2 daily randoms to gain 1cp if you already have 500cp.

You're a little bit closer for someone with very low cp, but even they only get 2-3 cp per daily random.

As a cp 645 player, it takes me 363k xp to gain 1 cp, and I only get 101k xp for a daily random dungeon. Now, I usually have some enlightenment, but even then it takes almost 2 daily random dungeons to gain 1cp.

The grind is real.

Was talking when you 1st start gaining cp 1 thuo 160 or so on the whole 10 cp per daily and yes you slow down but NOWHERE ner what it was like beforehand and it takes me 1,081,222 xp for 1 cp at 1345 yet on my 129 cp its 99,872 xp and on my cp 43 its 55,957xp needed so new players can gain cp way faster then vet players ever has been able to
And the only source that i use is knowledge of play time that I've played to level up characters I also have different characters but I'm not going to sit here and list you all of them but I did give examples to show the fact that it is a lot easier to gain under the rules and regulations of CP today then when we first started playing this game

React

The system needs to be fully overhauled. As far as pvp goes, the amount of CP you have currentley completely destroys the balance. Your cp is giving you 2-3 times the sustain, damage, and mitigation that any 5 piece can give you. It's making it far too easy to stay alive, and far too easy to deal damage without spec'ing for it.

They either need to change the whole system, drastically reducing the bonuses you get or maybe exchanging the bonuses for more QOL oriented things. Limiting it to between 300 and 500 could work pretty well too.

I'm nearing 1,500 cp myself, if I had access to all of that I'd be unstoppable. It's simply not balancable in it's current state.

BattleAxe

Liam12548 wrote: »

The system needs to be fully overhauled. As far as pvp goes, the amount of CP you have currentley completely destroys the balance. Your cp is giving you 2-3 times the sustain, damage, and mitigation that any 5 piece can give you. It's making it far too easy to stay alive, and far too easy to deal damage without spec'ing for it.

They either need to change the whole system, drastically reducing the bonuses you get or maybe exchanging the bonuses for more QOL oriented things. Limiting it to between 300 and 500 could work pretty well too.

I'm nearing 1,500 cp myself, if I had access to all of that I'd be unstoppable. It's simply not balancable in it's current state.

At one time there was no cp cap and when they allow pc transfers to console this severely hurt the console players just starting. The only solution is the one the Devs have not tried even tho it will solve all pain points for both pve and pvp. The solution separate changes for pve and pvp

kojou

Maybe they could remove the CP cap on PTS after the cycle for Update 24 is over to let people see how far the CP would really push DPS? I don't think it will be as much as people think it will be.

Mitigation is a much bigger deal IMO. The amount of mitigation you can add while still being spec'ed for damage is huge.

b95fister

I don’t play Stam characters.

Also stone fist doing damage is stupid.

Nordic__Knights

BattleAxe wrote: »

Liam12548 wrote: »

The system needs to be fully overhauled. As far as pvp goes, the amount of CP you have currentley completely destroys the balance. Your cp is giving you 2-3 times the sustain, damage, and mitigation that any 5 piece can give you. It's making it far too easy to stay alive, and far too easy to deal damage without spec'ing for it.

They either need to change the whole system, drastically reducing the bonuses you get or maybe exchanging the bonuses for more QOL oriented things. Limiting it to between 300 and 500 could work pretty well too.

I'm nearing 1,500 cp myself, if I had access to all of that I'd be unstoppable. It's simply not balancable in it's current state.

At one time there was no cp cap and when they allow pc transfers to console this severely hurt the console players just starting. The only solution is the one the Devs have not tried even tho it will solve all pain points for both pve and pvp. The solution separate changes for pve and pvp

Pc transfers roflmao!!!!!!! tbh we must of gotten the pc trash because i used to kill the *** out of pc transfer players all the time so them being on console wasn't an issue for anyone good

MLGProPlayer

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY

It took me ~1000 hours, over ~2 YEARS, to reach the CP cap at the time (which was around CP 600 then). I didn't do any grinding, I just played the game (quests, dungeons, and trials). It's definitely a VERY long climb to max CP if you don't grind.

My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again
And btw standing around bs in chat aint playing the game so time played dont mean sh#t to me sorry
And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js
So you played 1.3hrs per day at 1000hr for 2 years seems you didn't have an goal to hit cp or even play the game js

1.3 hours per day is a very reasonable amount of play time for the average player, which is the vast majority of players. Most people have lives outside of this game.

MLGProPlayer

BattleAxe wrote: »

Liam12548 wrote: »

The system needs to be fully overhauled. As far as pvp goes, the amount of CP you have currentley completely destroys the balance. Your cp is giving you 2-3 times the sustain, damage, and mitigation that any 5 piece can give you. It's making it far too easy to stay alive, and far too easy to deal damage without spec'ing for it.

They either need to change the whole system, drastically reducing the bonuses you get or maybe exchanging the bonuses for more QOL oriented things. Limiting it to between 300 and 500 could work pretty well too.

I'm nearing 1,500 cp myself, if I had access to all of that I'd be unstoppable. It's simply not balancable in it's current state.

At one time there was no cp cap and when they allow pc transfers to console this severely hurt the console players just starting. The only solution is the one the Devs have not tried even tho it will solve all pain points for both pve and pvp. The solution separate changes for pve and pvp

The problem was never account transfers. It was that people with more time could beat players with less time, even if the player with more time was less skilled.

Nordic__Knights

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY

It took me ~1000 hours, over ~2 YEARS, to reach the CP cap at the time (which was around CP 600 then). I didn't do any grinding, I just played the game (quests, dungeons, and trials). It's definitely a VERY long climb to max CP if you don't grind.

My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again
And btw standing around bs in chat aint playing the game so time played dont mean sh#t to me sorry
And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js
So you played 1.3hrs per day at 1000hr for 2 years seems you didn't have an goal to hit cp or even play the game js

1.3 hours per day is a very reasonable amount of play time for the average player, which is the vast majority of players. Most people have lives outside of this game.

bro thats bs my kids get more then that per day to play after school and as your having an life statement lol dude i probably have an way better life then most that try saying this as an tattoo artist yes i have more free time but trust my life styles not hurt in anyway by the time im able to put into playing an game for fun

Ozby

BigBragg wrote: »

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

Remember how people used to claim that CP power creep was the reason our skills were getting nerfed? How’s that theory working out?

CP still exists and the game is still getting nerfed. (Since we are making oversimplified blanket statements.)

You do not know it is getting nerfed there has been no indications of what or how they are reworking it. I really do not like people creating stigma.

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

BattleAxe wrote: »

Liam12548 wrote: »

The system needs to be fully overhauled. As far as pvp goes, the amount of CP you have currentley completely destroys the balance. Your cp is giving you 2-3 times the sustain, damage, and mitigation that any 5 piece can give you. It's making it far too easy to stay alive, and far too easy to deal damage without spec'ing for it.

They either need to change the whole system, drastically reducing the bonuses you get or maybe exchanging the bonuses for more QOL oriented things. Limiting it to between 300 and 500 could work pretty well too.

I'm nearing 1,500 cp myself, if I had access to all of that I'd be unstoppable. It's simply not balancable in it's current state.

At one time there was no cp cap and when they allow pc transfers to console this severely hurt the console players just starting. The only solution is the one the Devs have not tried even tho it will solve all pain points for both pve and pvp. The solution separate changes for pve and pvp

Pc transfers roflmao!!!!!!! tbh we must of gotten the pc trash because i used to kill the *** out of pc transfer players all the time so them being on console wasn't an issue for anyone good

They weren't used to the 10fps you get on consoles, I played xbox for ages and when I hit it on PC I never went back to xbox... I can't physically bring myself to look at the blurry, low resolution, low frame rate game that I love on the PC with the addition of reshade and true 4k resolution

the1andonlyskwex

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js

Reality check: A full time job is about 2000 hours per year, and 2000 hours in 3 months is about 22 hours per day.

Nordic__Knights

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js

Reality check: A full time job is about 2000 hours per year, and 2000 hours in 3 months is about 22 hours per day.

If you'd look at what i was responding to youd see another side they had played 1000hr in 2 years but said they was grinding full time for cp to make max cp look hard to get to when its not

zParallaxz

Nestor wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

What was wrong with vr ranks?

You mean besides having to level each character individually to max level?

Now that I think about it, at least the people who have played from that era had a better understanding of their class.

TheRealPotoroo

akray21 wrote: »

I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

Everybody gets CP by playing the game, not by avoiding it. And given that the game practically throws exp bonuses at you these days that's got to be the lamest excuse I've ever heard for not playing. Ask her what the real reason is. Or then again, maybe don't.

SirDopey

Nestor wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

What was wrong with vr ranks?

You mean besides having to level each character individually to max level?

And refarm all your gear again when it went from VR9->10->12->14->16

SirDopey

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY

It took me ~1000 hours, over ~2 YEARS, to reach the CP cap at the time (which was around CP 600 then). I didn't do any grinding, I just played the game (quests, dungeons, and trials). It's definitely a VERY long climb to max CP if you don't grind.

My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again
And btw standing around bs in chat aint playing the game so time played dont mean sh#t to me sorry
And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js
So you played 1.3hrs per day at 1000hr for 2 years seems you didn't have an goal to hit cp or even play the game js

10 champion points for random XD. You are hillariously toxic....

TheHsN

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

What was wrong with vr ranks?

everything:)

Nordic__Knights

SirDopey wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY

It took me ~1000 hours, over ~2 YEARS, to reach the CP cap at the time (which was around CP 600 then). I didn't do any grinding, I just played the game (quests, dungeons, and trials). It's definitely a VERY long climb to max CP if you don't grind.

My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again
And btw standing around bs in chat aint playing the game so time played dont mean sh#t to me sorry
And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js
So you played 1.3hrs per day at 1000hr for 2 years seems you didn't have an goal to hit cp or even play the game js

10 champion points for random XD. You are hillariously toxic....

I invite you to make an sub account when you get you 1st set of cp wear training gear at blue then tell me that

JinMori

Repost, but i think this is quite important.

Zos. Why is cp a problem at the moment? Because you didn't really account for it, you just brought in a cool system, and then thought to yourself, well, now we are gonna nerf abilities and sustain and everything from time to time to keep power creep at bay, well, lemme tell you zos that is as bad as a solution as you could find, by the way cp has already been massively nerfed, remember when you used to get resources as you put points into trees up to almost 60% more resources at lvl 3600? That doesn't happen anymore, you only get about 20% at lvl 300, that's it.

And cp isn't even the only problem, sets new weapons etc, all play a part into this, are the sets and cp the problem? NO, the problem is YOU ZOS, you let this happen! This happened because you slaked, this happened because you decided that nerfs were better than making new systems to counter the exponential power gain, and why is that the case? The only thing i can think of is money, because nerfing is more cost effective in your eyes, and yes, maybe in the short term it is, but after repeated nerfs, people are clearly getting turned off, you can keep posting those bs numbers like recently when you reached 12 million registered accounts, like that matters in any way, but the results speak clearly.

So zos, it's either improve the game for real, or forever be a decent to good game, but never great, when you take a look at the bigger picture, who gives a f about nerfs, when the nerfs are caused by the problem mentioned before, and it will happen again, because new sets will come stronger than ever, and then we will have dragonhold 2.0, or morrowind 2.0, by the way, performance wasn't even talked about, because you could write a book on how trash eso general performance is.

If your solution is to keep nerfing, then iv'e got bad news for you, because that shows that you are not willing to make the game better, you will lose players, with that kind of mentality you will never make a great game.

Emma_Overload

akray21 wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

They would have to re-balance the whole game again. It would be the 3rd (4th?) time they do so, which is rediculous.

With the current catch up mechanic, catching up does not take that long.

People needlessly agonize over their CP.

Just play the damn game, the CP will come.

I earned every one of my CP by just playing the game. No grinding XP at all.
I would like to keep them thanks.

CP keeps more casual players away, that's a fact. The end of the system is coming, it's just a matter of when.

Ridiculous. All MMOs have a leveling system. The only mistake ZOS has made is not admitting that the the CP cap (currently 810 CP) IS the max level. Not Level 50. Not CP160. Not CP300.

Much of the grieving and grumbling about CP would go away if ZOS (and everybody else) accepted the fact that a player is not fully leveled until they hit the CP cap. This idea that ZOS had that CP would be a "long term progression system" is a pipe dream. ZOS didn't realize that elitist PvEers and toxic PvPers (guilty as charged) are never happy until they have every tiny percentage of advantage possible. So we grind CP until we hit the cap, period.

So what about these "casuals"? Obviously most of them are too lazy or disinterested by nature to grind to max CP in any reasonable time frame. I did it myself with a 2nd account, and it took around 170 hours to go from Level 1 to Max CP (720 back then, IIRC). That's a horrific grind to do in a few weeks, even for someone who likes grinding. I was ready to blow my brains out around CP600, and it only got worse from there. This is too much to expect from casuals!

I think the solution is obvious: just make the grind a LOT shorter. It shouldn't take any more than 48 hours of play time to level their first toon from Level 1 to CP810. They shouldn't have to spend millions (like I did) on Mythic Aetherial potions, either. Get rid of "enlightenment" and just make it easy to grind CP all the time.

Once you remove the obstacles for casuals to reach max CP, you will see that much of the complaining about CP goes away. All that will remain are the Battleground die-hards, but those guys always complain about something. I do not think that ESO should EVER be balanced around No-CP combat or the never-ending gripes of Battlegrounders. Furthermore, I believe even these types of complaints (about "unkillable" tanks, etc.) can be addressed by adjusting Battle Spirit for Battlegounds. Throwing out our progression should NEVER have even been an option, and ZOS should be ashamed that they took this approach with BGs.

SirDopey

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

SirDopey wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY

It took me ~1000 hours, over ~2 YEARS, to reach the CP cap at the time (which was around CP 600 then). I didn't do any grinding, I just played the game (quests, dungeons, and trials). It's definitely a VERY long climb to max CP if you don't grind.

My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again
And btw standing around bs in chat aint playing the game so time played dont mean sh#t to me sorry
And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js
So you played 1.3hrs per day at 1000hr for 2 years seems you didn't have an goal to hit cp or even play the game js

10 champion points for random XD. You are hillariously toxic....

I invite you to make an sub account when you get you 1st set of cp wear training gear at blue then tell me that

Lol yeah - when you're at 0 cp. But you well know that once you're even half way to Cap it slows down massively. Again, just another one of your toxic comments.

Nordic__Knights

SirDopey wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

SirDopey wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY

It took me ~1000 hours, over ~2 YEARS, to reach the CP cap at the time (which was around CP 600 then). I didn't do any grinding, I just played the game (quests, dungeons, and trials). It's definitely a VERY long climb to max CP if you don't grind.

My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again
And btw standing around bs in chat aint playing the game so time played dont mean sh#t to me sorry
And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js
So you played 1.3hrs per day at 1000hr for 2 years seems you didn't have an goal to hit cp or even play the game js

10 champion points for random XD. You are hillariously toxic....

I invite you to make an sub account when you get you 1st set of cp wear training gear at blue then tell me that

Lol yeah - when you're at 0 cp. But you well know that once you're even half way to Cap it slows down massively. Again, just another one of your toxic comments.

From cp 10 starting point now it took me 3hrs to get to 126 so try to tell me again how hard it is

TheRealPotoroo

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

SirDopey wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

SirDopey wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY

It took me ~1000 hours, over ~2 YEARS, to reach the CP cap at the time (which was around CP 600 then). I didn't do any grinding, I just played the game (quests, dungeons, and trials). It's definitely a VERY long climb to max CP if you don't grind.

My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again
And btw standing around bs in chat aint playing the game so time played dont mean sh#t to me sorry
And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js
So you played 1.3hrs per day at 1000hr for 2 years seems you didn't have an goal to hit cp or even play the game js

10 champion points for random XD. You are hillariously toxic....

I invite you to make an sub account when you get you 1st set of cp wear training gear at blue then tell me that

Lol yeah - when you're at 0 cp. But you well know that once you're even half way to Cap it slows down massively. Again, just another one of your toxic comments.

From cp 10 starting point now it took me 3hrs to get to 126 so try to tell me again how hard it is

The 4.8 million Enlightment 4x exp boost you get when you hit L50 means it's reasonably easy to get to around CP300. Then it rapidly and obviously slows right down.

Nordic__Knights

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

SirDopey wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

SirDopey wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY

It took me ~1000 hours, over ~2 YEARS, to reach the CP cap at the time (which was around CP 600 then). I didn't do any grinding, I just played the game (quests, dungeons, and trials). It's definitely a VERY long climb to max CP if you don't grind.

My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again
And btw standing around bs in chat aint playing the game so time played dont mean sh#t to me sorry
And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js
So you played 1.3hrs per day at 1000hr for 2 years seems you didn't have an goal to hit cp or even play the game js

10 champion points for random XD. You are hillariously toxic....

I invite you to make an sub account when you get you 1st set of cp wear training gear at blue then tell me that

Lol yeah - when you're at 0 cp. But you well know that once you're even half way to Cap it slows down massively. Again, just another one of your toxic comments.

From cp 10 starting point now it took me 3hrs to get to 126 so try to tell me again how hard it is

The 4.8 million Enlightment 4x exp boost you get when you hit L50 means it's reasonably easy to get to around CP300. Then it rapidly and obviously slows right down.

NEVER said it didn't if you look up you'll find my response showing the difference from my main account to my sub accounts xp needed for each cp and this WHOLE thing started by me telling another that his wife could get cp to max faster then when game 1st came out and that its possible to go from lvl1 to max cp in 3 months then having another say they had been playing for 2 years putting in 1000hrs and was 600+ cp but had been trying hard to reach max here ill show you something
Im 1345 cp with 12,712hr 42m 51 sec. of total game time
Nightblade 8,424hr
Templar 3,004 hr
Sorc 767hr
Dk 266hr
Necro 164hr
Warden 85 hrs
I've played this game on this account since release to console vr days we didn't have xp pots xp Scrolls there was no 100%xp events you earned every last CP you ever got the HARD WAY !!!!!!!

bakthi

"Casuals" don't need max CP. Don't even need close to max CP. I'm doing vet dungeons, normal trials, and have done vet trial; one might reasonably say I am not a casual player (unless from the skewed viewpoint of someone trying to race up the scoreboards). I would say a casual player is one who does overland, maybe does a normal dungeon now and then, and for that you hardly need any CP at all (there are plenty of people like this in some of my guilds, on Reddit, etc.).

I get about 1 CP per day due to Enlightenment, which is completely fine. Been playing since April, and will be CP600 soon; tbh that's probably playing too much, but there it is. I have not been unable to do anything I wanted to do. I literally just finished the last few skillpoint-granting quests on my "main" (except for TG/DB, which I don't feel like doing on a Magplar healer; I made a NB for that after slogging through the TG/DB event on my Warden). Still have a ton of side quests to do, plus skillpoint+Undaunted activities on my alts.

Edit: I'm realizing my CP-per-day math doesn't quite add up; I suppose I get more on the weekends, got more during exp boost events, etc. But on busy days, I just do my writs and don't even completely drain Enlightenment.

I will easily hit 810CP by "just playing the game", and 160CP came rather quickly thanks to events and having scrolls thrown at me. If you are the sort who cares deeply about scoreboards, I guess you will need to grind, but that's probably a tiny percentage of the population. Helping Actual Casual Players get to 810CP fast is a non-issue.

SirDopey

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I want them to remove CP all together. My wife won't play because she says she's too far behind. It encourages botting.

Dude you can go from lvl3 to cp 810 in 2 maybe 3 mounts top now days went it 1st hit( for me) you'd get 1 every 2 days and they wasn't shared across all toons as they are now but one things back to being the same about cp (less for me ) it takes 2 days to get another 1 added lol im 1334
So tell your wife that all she needs to do is play the game for 3 MONTHS and she'll be jast as strong as everyone whos been playing for 4+ YEARS
And as far as removal of them why not just remove YOURSELF TY

It took me ~1000 hours, over ~2 YEARS, to reach the CP cap at the time (which was around CP 600 then). I didn't do any grinding, I just played the game (quests, dungeons, and trials). It's definitely a VERY long climb to max CP if you don't grind.

My main is 1334 have 4 different subs at 810 not 1 of them did i grind cp you get 10cp just for 1 daily random theres days so try again
And btw standing around bs in chat aint playing the game so time played dont mean sh#t to me sorry
And 3 months is 2000+ hrs played js
So you played 1.3hrs per day at 1000hr for 2 years seems you didn't have an goal to hit cp or even play the game js

10 champion points for random XD. You are hillariously toxic....

I invite you to make an sub account when you get you 1st set of cp wear training gear at blue then tell me that

Lol yeah - when you're at 0 cp. But you well know that once you're even half way to Cap it slows down massively. Again, just another one of your toxic comments.

From cp 10 starting point now it took me 3hrs to get to 126 so try to tell me again how hard it is

The 4.8 million Enlightment 4x exp boost you get when you hit L50 means it's reasonably easy to get to around CP300. Then it rapidly and obviously slows right down.

NEVER said it didn't if you look up you'll find my response showing the difference from my main account to my sub accounts xp needed for each cp and this WHOLE thing started by me telling another that his wife could get cp to max faster then when game 1st came out and that its possible to go from lvl1 to max cp in 3 months then having another say they had been playing for 2 years putting in 1000hrs and was 600+ cp but had been trying hard to reach max here ill show you something
Im 1345 cp with 12,712hr 42m 51 sec. of total game time
Nightblade 8,424hr
Templar 3,004 hr
Sorc 767hr
Dk 266hr
Necro 164hr
Warden 85 hrs
I've played this game on this account since release to console vr days we didn't have xp pots xp Scrolls there was no 100%xp events you earned every last CP you ever got the HARD WAY !!!!!!!

No you didn't, you were being toxic asserting it does not take long to hit cap - which is incorrect. You never said "it doesn't take long to get half way to cap". Not everyone can play for 8 hours a day, for those with real jobs and real life priorities where they can only play for an hour or so a day, hitting cap is a daunting task.