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Cast time ulti's

Ozazz
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Cast time time to ulti's isn't good for the game!

Cast time ulti's 86 votes

Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
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You don't mind their current state!
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GilvothCheloShareeFermianXvorgBobby_V_RockitAnyronOnly_ZeusMartiemer 9 votes
  • Ozazz
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    you do realize this is the equivalent of saying sorcerer shield cast time's are a great idea!
    when you keep standardizing skill gaps in a game, in the pursuit of trying to appeal to less skilled players. At the end of the day you will not be left with much of a game!
  • Vapirko
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    Sharee wrote: »
    "respecting skill"

    A skilled player will still be skilled, even with cast time on ultis.

    No argument there but what kind of argument is that? It’s nothing to do with skill. It’s everything to do with combat being slowed down and feeling clunky.
  • Sharee
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    You don't mind their current state!
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    "respecting skill"

    A skilled player will still be skilled, even with cast time on ultis.

    No argument there but what kind of argument is that? It’s nothing to do with skill. It’s everything to do with combat being slowed down and feeling clunky.

    <shrug> take that up with the poster of the thread. I was just reacting to what he wrote.
  • Vapirko
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    Sharee wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    "respecting skill"

    A skilled player will still be skilled, even with cast time on ultis.

    No argument there but what kind of argument is that? It’s nothing to do with skill. It’s everything to do with combat being slowed down and feeling clunky.

    <shrug> take that up with the poster of the thread. I was just reacting to what he wrote.

    I think they’re just saying that putting cast times on ult was a way of lowering the ceiling thereby limiting the ability for player skill to factor into the outcome of a fight. That’s what they mean by “respecting skill.”
  • Ozazz
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    @Vapirko not trying to be disrespectful but i don't think this player has that much pvp experience!
  • Sharee
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    You don't mind their current state!
    Ozazz wrote: »
    @Vapirko not trying to be disrespectful but i don't think this player has that much pvp experience!

    About four years more than you.
  • Ozazz
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    doubt it, to play 4 years of eso and not realize there's a skill gap in pvp and to naively say GoOd PLaYeRs WiLl OvErCOmE aNyTiNg!!!! even though that cast time on your ulti gets you killed or that cast time on shields gets you killed, Give my brain a break!
  • Crixus8000
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    Cast times on ults was a terrible change. With the long delay on dawnbreaker for example it actually made it harder to secure kills in my experience so far. And that makes no sense, an ultimate ability that makes it harder to get a kill when you use it lol.

    This change just lowered the skill ceiling for no reason.
  • Naftal
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    Another loaded poll.
  • Ozazz
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    zos fix your game!
  • Vermethys
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    Laughs in DK

    Though I did test a few ultimates on my StamSorc. Dawnbreaker feels okay since it's a conal AoE and easy to land, but Onslaught feels straight up weird. I imagine Incap probably feels the same way.
    PC EU CP1300+
    StamDK Main (PvE/PvP)
    Gorgo Aendovius [AD Imperial Dragonknight] -- Blackrose Executioner (AR26)
    Edith Geonette [DC Imperial Sorcerer] -- Forge Breaker (AR23)

    My Builds:
  • Abhaya
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    Vermethys wrote: »
    Laughs in DK

    Though I did test a few ultimates on my StamSorc. Dawnbreaker feels okay since it's a conal AoE and easy to land, but Onslaught feels straight up weird. I imagine Incap probably feels the same way.

    Feels the same to me. I switched back to DB from onslaught just because it feels so much more reliable to land. Also, idk who the genius was that thought it was a good idea to increase the knockback on dizzy swing because it literally puts your target out of range if you aren't completely up their ass making it more difficult to land the onslaught combo. This makes DB even more appealing since it will still land if they already broke free and try to dodge.
    Abhaya - PC NA - Ebonheart Pact
    Stam Sorc 2-Hand / Bow Build: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=169103
  • Ozazz
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    incap is ruined
  • Royalthought
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    Ozazz wrote: »
    incap is ruined

    Looking at the past few patches in seems that's the goal for the nightblade class in general.
  • Ozazz
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    yup giving it the sorc treatment and that's when i bounce!
  • CambionDaemon
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    Not a fan of cast times on anything let only on Ultimates, but then I think that Ultimates should have extremely high costs (400+) across the board and have insane damage/utility.
  • Scamh
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    Hitting an ult feels insanely clunky. It's not fun, it's just super, super frustrating.
    The Upside Down (Stamplar) - Osaka Sewers X (Stamblade) - A Scanner Darkly (Magblade) - Taylor Swiftborn (Stam sorc)
  • Ozazz
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    you can't animation cancel thus you cant clear a rotation efficiently, zos plz fix your game!
  • WaltherCarraway
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    Bleed: L2HoT
    Damage shield: L2specshatteringblowcp

    Magicka DoT: wawawawawawa all those inferior players are carried nerf (soul trap is stupid and tedious af btw)
    Ultimate cast time: wawawawawawa stomprofl around an object getting harder nerf


    lol
    AFK
  • GhostofDatthaw
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    Bleed: L2HoT
    Damage shield: L2specshatteringblowcp

    Magicka DoT: wawawawawawa all those inferior players are carried nerf (soul trap is stupid and tedious af btw)
    Ultimate cast time: wawawawawawa stomprofl around an object getting harder nerf


    lol

    Ever heard of chicken little
  • Gilvoth
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    You don't mind their current state!
    Ozazz wrote: »
    doubt it, to play 4 years of eso and not realize there's a skill gap in pvp and to naively say GoOd PLaYeRs WiLl OvErCOmE aNyTiNg!!!! even though that cast time on your ulti gets you killed or that cast time on shields gets you killed, Give my brain a break!
    Ozazz wrote: »
    yup giving it the sorc treatment and that's when i bounce!

    some come to eso, enjoy it for a short time, then come to the forums and insult the developers and us seasoned players and then leave the game to never return.
    while we long timers continue killing other players and having fun and learning and staying in practice daily in pvp, just as we have for the past 5+ years.
    that tells me that we are not as stupid as we are being told we are, and also tells me we do know how to play and we do what we can to learn from the changes and adapt and learn.
    best in slot: is the armor, weapon, clothing look, pet, or no pet, jewelry, race, class, skill choices, amount of DPS, and skin color best fit to you and the way you wish to play and makes you feel good and performs what YOU think it should be.

    worst in slot: what you read in zone chat, and forum comment, and forum thread, and you tube video, and live streamer advice, and class rep advice, and guild chat advice, and whisper told you to wear, and use for skill, and dress like, and use for weapon and armor.
  • Ozazz
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    my brain hurts!
  • Ozazz
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    I wouldn't say polls are always accurate, but A poll that leads over 90% speaks for itself in this case. especially right after a patch
  • Firstmep
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    Actually its not like with all the lag ppl can easily react to these ultis anyway.
    I can cancel my fat db if i see my target moves out of range, but thats it.
    Its really annoying to get used to not cancelling the ult, when almost everything else i do i cancel.
  • Fur_like_snow
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    To the player running around with 35k health and 250 ping this change probably doesn’t change much of anything. To the player running a higher performance precision medium armor build this change is down right awful.
  • Ozazz
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    you didn't hear the news? that player you described is the only kind of players zos cares about?
  • Derra
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    Sharee wrote: »
    Ozazz wrote: »
    @Vapirko not trying to be disrespectful but i don't think this player has that much pvp experience!

    About four years more than you.

    Sometimes quality matters over quantity it seems. :neutral:
    Every comment is from a pvp pov unless stated otherwise.

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    I live. I die. I live again.

    Derra - DC - Sorc - AvA 50
    Derrah - EP - Sorc - AvA 50

  • Sharee
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    You don't mind their current state!
    Derra wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Ozazz wrote: »
    @Vapirko not trying to be disrespectful but i don't think this player has that much pvp experience!

    About four years more than you.

    Sometimes quality matters over quantity it seems. :neutral:

    Well at least i'm not stalking others through threads just to post cheap ad hominem jabs.
  • Ozazz
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    Revert Ulti's to their original state/Thus respecting skill and making the game more fluent!
    fix your game zos
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