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Sad state of the game
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They dont care. Otherwise we would be hearing about some effort taking place. Like the eu server capacity increase
yees, that's why the dedicated almost entire live stream to their performance improvement plans. becasue they don't care.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681
and because people ignore even official links, here is official visual aid
Edited by Linaleah on August 11, 2019 3:57PMdirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***2 -
Wolfpaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »I live in a major city and have the highest speed internet available from my internet company. If you are saying people need more then 1gb/s download then sweet Jesus. It’s not the internet that’s a cop out
Ps4 NA Agree.
I live in Seattle with the best internet money can buy. No issues w/any other online games either.Edited by Wolfpaw on August 11, 2019 4:26PM3 -
shaielzafine✭✭✭✭✭ESO's performance problems are way too much, they just need a quality of life patch already. For all of you who claim it's the users' internet connection or that "game is fine for me so there must be no problem", you're so so wrong. Clearly it's a big enough issue that the devs already acknowledged performance and server problems multiple times. The problem is they keep saying they will fix it but they don't. I remember when all the issues was only in PvP - open world Cyrodiil for me, then I started getting kicked and lagged out and encountering weird bugs in trials (like vmol colors switch being wrong, or vCR Rez bug that's always been there). And then I started crashing when teleporting overworked to populated places like Alinor and Vvardenfell with different error codes. My internet is fine, I have no issues with any other multiplayer online games (other than fallout 76 when that came out, which was a complete joke) and it's been worse and worse server problems and performance problems throughout the years on ESO since I started playing. And for everyone commenting people who complain should just accept the lag as a feature, lol why? Why are you defending this garbage performance and servers? Games like FF14 have regular maintenance patches and emergency maintenance patches, and their devs communicate so much more often and clearly with their players. ESO surely makes enough money to pay their devs to care and to pay for fixing these issues? We have sub option, buy to play, microtransactions, $200 digital houses, and loot boxes. ZOS can afford server upgrades if they wanted to3
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Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They dont care. Otherwise we would be hearing about some effort taking place. Like the eu server capacity increase
yees, that's why the dedicated almost entire live stream to their performance improvement plans. becasue they don't care.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681
and because people ignore even official links, here is official visual aid
They say this before every patch and performance keeps getting worse, but we are supposed to believe them this time because they made an official visual aid?
Did you notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the visual aid? "Note that some fixes and improvements might shift as development continues" In other wards maybe next year, but most likely the focus will "shift" and things will stay the same or continue to get worse.
Edited by Sanctum74 on August 11, 2019 4:11PM11 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They dont care. Otherwise we would be hearing about some effort taking place. Like the eu server capacity increase
yees, that's why the dedicated almost entire live stream to their performance improvement plans. becasue they don't care.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681
and because people ignore even official links, here is official visual aid
They say this before every patch and performance keeps getting worse, but we are supposed to believe them this time because they made an official visual aid?
Did you notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the visual aid? "Note that some fixes and improvements might shift as development continues" In other wards maybe next year, but most likely the focus will "shift" and the things will stay the same or continue to get worse.
sigh... the visual aid indicates that 1. they are aware. aware enough to address it instead of ignoring it like the lot of you claim. 2. that they actualy have a plan, even if they are giving themselves a leeway for things not working as originally intended which is NORMAL.
and consider for a moment... that shift could go the other way as well. something may end up getting addressed sooner than originally indicated, because it went better then expected?
I understand the frustration, believe me, i'm not immune to performance issues, on the contrary. but this constant nagging about things that they have literally JUST addressed is counter productive. if the fixes don't come in when promised and there is no communication as to way? THEN resuming the nagging makes sense.
i swear to god, its like you people expect things to be fixed instantly... it DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.Edited by Linaleah on August 11, 2019 4:17PMdirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***2 -
Jagdkommando✭✭✭✭genuinely a lot of these complaints are for places that are in remote areas or cross-server [eu players on NA] or people who play pvp. I live in a pretty dense suburban area in NA and have never experienced anything close to the issues you see on these boards. but I live in a decent spot. and don't play pvp.
zos can't make the internet in the middle of nowhere, nebraska better, but every bit helps and i'm all for a performance overhaul, especially since consoles seemed to get boned harder by this.
as for pvp... *shrugs* i've said it before and i'll say it again; every pvp game is either unbalanced, super laggy, or unfun, and if it's not all 3, it's probably in beta. :P
Wait... You are saying you never experienced lag without high ping, random disconnects, adds and aoes desync?
Few people on the forums say they have good performance
Never met one in game though
Gotta be urban legends or something
Urban Legends aahahahhahahah 👍🏻1 -
snarkomatic✭✭✭✭1.) It's not internet or hardware when literally every other game I play runs just friggin fine. Stop being ridiculous. Stop insulting our intelligence. It doesn't take an IT genius to figure out when only one game has massive, unplayable issues okay?
1a.) If you don't have issues yourself, congratulations. You are very lucky. This post doesn't concern you. Buh-bye now!
2.) I know they addressed this with a nice visual aid, but for most of us, it's about a year or two too late. I understand the cynicism completely, particularly when console never gets any acknowledgement of their particularly egregious pain points.
Honestly, at this stage, I think a lot of us would appreciate hearing an actual apology for how we've been kicked to the curb on this matter for so long. I for one am glad to see more and more posts from my console brethren. We need to be more vocal about this, not less. ZoS needs to know every day how much this affects us, so they don't think they can just keep delaying progress indefinitely.Edited by snarkomatic on August 11, 2019 4:24PM9 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭snarkomatic wrote: »1.) It's not internet or hardware when literally every other game I play runs just friggin fine. Stop being ridiculous. Stop insulting our intelligence. It doesn't take an IT genius to figure out when only one game has massive, unplayable issues okay?
1a.) If you don't have issues yourself, congratulations. You are very lucky. This post doesn't concern you. Buh-bye now!
2.) I know they addressed this with a nice visual aid, but for most of us, it's about a year or two too late. I understand the cynicism completely, particularly when console never gets any acknowledgement of their particularly egregious pain points.
Honestly, at this stage, I think a lot of us would appreciate hearing an actual apology for how we've been kicked to the curb on this matter for so long. I for one am glad to see more and more posts from my console brethren. We need to be more vocal about this, not less. ZoS needs to know every day how much this affects us, so they don't think they can just keep delaying progress indefinitely.
quote. from the article.With the launch of Elsweyr, we wanted to give you an update on our ongoing performance optimization initiatives, our future plans, and when–generally–you can expect to see the improvements. This will be a living document, and it will be updated as new information becomes available.
We know that ESO performance has degraded for some players, especially on the base PS4™ and XB1. We’re not happy with this, and we know how important it is for us to alleviate the situation and give regular updates on what we are doing. A game that’s still going strong after five years brings a number of challenges to keep it running as smoothly as possible. Technology and player behavior changes over time, and of course the amount of available content continually expands. All of these can impact performance, and they have in ESO.
This article is the first step in a new process of making sure that everyone knows what we’re working on. The goal is to outline the things we have planned, explain why a particular item is important to overall stability or performance, and provide a target for when we think the work is going to be complete and on the live servers. Please keep in mind that some of these fixes reach very deep into the architecture of the game and require a lot of care, time, and testing. Because of this, the target dates on some of the initiatives may shift as work progresses.
so please. tell me. if its too late no matter what you do, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO GAIN FROM STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.
they KNOW. the KNOW how it affects you. they are working on fixes.
they are updating their progress, publicly as they make it. are you complaining because you are just so mad you cannot stop complaining. if yes, you may want to adress why are you so fixated on being mad.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***3 -
xenowarrior92eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I heard Tetris is nice this time of year!...besides we have Skyrim on Samsung smart fridges...I wanna play ESO on my Pager!0 -
snarkomatic✭✭✭✭snarkomatic wrote: »1.) It's not internet or hardware when literally every other game I play runs just friggin fine. Stop being ridiculous. Stop insulting our intelligence. It doesn't take an IT genius to figure out when only one game has massive, unplayable issues okay?
1a.) If you don't have issues yourself, congratulations. You are very lucky. This post doesn't concern you. Buh-bye now!
2.) I know they addressed this with a nice visual aid, but for most of us, it's about a year or two too late. I understand the cynicism completely, particularly when console never gets any acknowledgement of their particularly egregious pain points.
Honestly, at this stage, I think a lot of us would appreciate hearing an actual apology for how we've been kicked to the curb on this matter for so long. I for one am glad to see more and more posts from my console brethren. We need to be more vocal about this, not less. ZoS needs to know every day how much this affects us, so they don't think they can just keep delaying progress indefinitely.
quote. from the article.With the launch of Elsweyr, we wanted to give you an update on our ongoing performance optimization initiatives, our future plans, and when–generally–you can expect to see the improvements. This will be a living document, and it will be updated as new information becomes available.
We know that ESO performance has degraded for some players, especially on the base PS4™ and XB1. We’re not happy with this, and we know how important it is for us to alleviate the situation and give regular updates on what we are doing. A game that’s still going strong after five years brings a number of challenges to keep it running as smoothly as possible. Technology and player behavior changes over time, and of course the amount of available content continually expands. All of these can impact performance, and they have in ESO.
This article is the first step in a new process of making sure that everyone knows what we’re working on. The goal is to outline the things we have planned, explain why a particular item is important to overall stability or performance, and provide a target for when we think the work is going to be complete and on the live servers. Please keep in mind that some of these fixes reach very deep into the architecture of the game and require a lot of care, time, and testing. Because of this, the target dates on some of the initiatives may shift as work progresses.
so please. tell me. if its too late no matter what you do, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO GAIN FROM STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.
they KNOW. the KNOW how it affects you. they are working on fixes.
they are updating their progress, publicly as they make it. are you complaining because you are just so mad you cannot stop complaining. if yes, you may want to adress why are you so fixated on being mad.
I literally answered that question in the post you quoted lol. Maybe you should address why you're so fixated on being angry about our perfectly valid complaints ...8 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭snarkomatic wrote: »snarkomatic wrote: »1.) It's not internet or hardware when literally every other game I play runs just friggin fine. Stop being ridiculous. Stop insulting our intelligence. It doesn't take an IT genius to figure out when only one game has massive, unplayable issues okay?
1a.) If you don't have issues yourself, congratulations. You are very lucky. This post doesn't concern you. Buh-bye now!
2.) I know they addressed this with a nice visual aid, but for most of us, it's about a year or two too late. I understand the cynicism completely, particularly when console never gets any acknowledgement of their particularly egregious pain points.
Honestly, at this stage, I think a lot of us would appreciate hearing an actual apology for how we've been kicked to the curb on this matter for so long. I for one am glad to see more and more posts from my console brethren. We need to be more vocal about this, not less. ZoS needs to know every day how much this affects us, so they don't think they can just keep delaying progress indefinitely.
quote. from the article.With the launch of Elsweyr, we wanted to give you an update on our ongoing performance optimization initiatives, our future plans, and when–generally–you can expect to see the improvements. This will be a living document, and it will be updated as new information becomes available.
We know that ESO performance has degraded for some players, especially on the base PS4™ and XB1. We’re not happy with this, and we know how important it is for us to alleviate the situation and give regular updates on what we are doing. A game that’s still going strong after five years brings a number of challenges to keep it running as smoothly as possible. Technology and player behavior changes over time, and of course the amount of available content continually expands. All of these can impact performance, and they have in ESO.
This article is the first step in a new process of making sure that everyone knows what we’re working on. The goal is to outline the things we have planned, explain why a particular item is important to overall stability or performance, and provide a target for when we think the work is going to be complete and on the live servers. Please keep in mind that some of these fixes reach very deep into the architecture of the game and require a lot of care, time, and testing. Because of this, the target dates on some of the initiatives may shift as work progresses.
so please. tell me. if its too late no matter what you do, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO GAIN FROM STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.
they KNOW. the KNOW how it affects you. they are working on fixes.
they are updating their progress, publicly as they make it. are you complaining because you are just so mad you cannot stop complaining. if yes, you may want to adress why are you so fixated on being mad.
I literally answered that question in the post you quoted lol. Maybe you should address why you're so fixated on being angry about our perfectly valid complaints ...
I'm not angry. i'm .. what is a good word... flabbergasted. i'm flabbergasted.
so what you want is for them to prostrate themselves before and say how sorry they are? like it fixes anything better then actualy saying - yep there are issues, we are not happy, so we are working on fixing them? even though its years too late for you anyways? i literally don't understand what is the point of that.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***4 -
Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They dont care. Otherwise we would be hearing about some effort taking place. Like the eu server capacity increase
yees, that's why the dedicated almost entire live stream to their performance improvement plans. becasue they don't care.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681
and because people ignore even official links, here is official visual aid
They say this before every patch and performance keeps getting worse, but we are supposed to believe them this time because they made an official visual aid?
Did you notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the visual aid? "Note that some fixes and improvements might shift as development continues" In other wards maybe next year, but most likely the focus will "shift" and the things will stay the same or continue to get worse.
sigh... the visual aid indicates that 1. they are aware. aware enough to address it instead of ignoring it like the lot of you claim. 2. that they actualy have a plan, even if they are giving themselves a leeway for things not working as originally intended which is NORMAL.
and consider for a moment... that shift could go the other way as well. something may end up getting addressed sooner than originally indicated, because it went better then expected?
I understand the frustration, believe me, i'm not immune to performance issues, on the contrary. but this constant nagging about things that they have literally JUST addressed is counter productive. if the fixes don't come in when promised and there is no communication as to way? THEN resuming the nagging makes sense.
i swear to god, its like you people expect things to be fixed instantly... it DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
After 5 years of "we will fix it next patch" I don't think anyone expects the game to be fixed instantly if at all.
I appreciate your optimism because they have a visual aid and a plan, but if history has taught us anything its that it's just more lip service to sell the new dlc and nothing will change or will continue to get worse.
I hope they prove me wrong, but until then they have earned any nagging they get.
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snarkomatic✭✭✭✭snarkomatic wrote: »snarkomatic wrote: »1.) It's not internet or hardware when literally every other game I play runs just friggin fine. Stop being ridiculous. Stop insulting our intelligence. It doesn't take an IT genius to figure out when only one game has massive, unplayable issues okay?
1a.) If you don't have issues yourself, congratulations. You are very lucky. This post doesn't concern you. Buh-bye now!
2.) I know they addressed this with a nice visual aid, but for most of us, it's about a year or two too late. I understand the cynicism completely, particularly when console never gets any acknowledgement of their particularly egregious pain points.
Honestly, at this stage, I think a lot of us would appreciate hearing an actual apology for how we've been kicked to the curb on this matter for so long. I for one am glad to see more and more posts from my console brethren. We need to be more vocal about this, not less. ZoS needs to know every day how much this affects us, so they don't think they can just keep delaying progress indefinitely.
quote. from the article.With the launch of Elsweyr, we wanted to give you an update on our ongoing performance optimization initiatives, our future plans, and when–generally–you can expect to see the improvements. This will be a living document, and it will be updated as new information becomes available.
We know that ESO performance has degraded for some players, especially on the base PS4™ and XB1. We’re not happy with this, and we know how important it is for us to alleviate the situation and give regular updates on what we are doing. A game that’s still going strong after five years brings a number of challenges to keep it running as smoothly as possible. Technology and player behavior changes over time, and of course the amount of available content continually expands. All of these can impact performance, and they have in ESO.
This article is the first step in a new process of making sure that everyone knows what we’re working on. The goal is to outline the things we have planned, explain why a particular item is important to overall stability or performance, and provide a target for when we think the work is going to be complete and on the live servers. Please keep in mind that some of these fixes reach very deep into the architecture of the game and require a lot of care, time, and testing. Because of this, the target dates on some of the initiatives may shift as work progresses.
so please. tell me. if its too late no matter what you do, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO GAIN FROM STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.
they KNOW. the KNOW how it affects you. they are working on fixes.
they are updating their progress, publicly as they make it. are you complaining because you are just so mad you cannot stop complaining. if yes, you may want to adress why are you so fixated on being mad.
I literally answered that question in the post you quoted lol. Maybe you should address why you're so fixated on being angry about our perfectly valid complaints ...
I'm not angry. i'm .. what is a good word... flabbergasted. i'm flabbergasted.
so what you want is for them to prostrate themselves before and say how sorry they are? like it fixes anything better then actualy saying - yep there are issues, we are not happy, so we are working on fixing them? even though its years too late for you anyways? i literally don't understand what is the point of that.
No, you have to read all of what people write to get the message, sweets.I for one am glad to see more and more posts from my console brethren. We need to be more vocal about this, not less. ZoS needs to know every day how much this affects us, so they don't think they can just keep delaying progress indefinitely.
This is not the first time performance has been bad and needed fixing. This is not the first time a bug fix has created ten new bugs that then go unfixed for months without acknowledgment. I'm glad they are making nice PR statements finally, but that does not mean we should stop telling them that things are bad and getting worse. Performance is literally degrading between patches on PS4. I don't think we should let them forget that.5 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They dont care. Otherwise we would be hearing about some effort taking place. Like the eu server capacity increase
yees, that's why the dedicated almost entire live stream to their performance improvement plans. becasue they don't care.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681
and because people ignore even official links, here is official visual aid
They say this before every patch and performance keeps getting worse, but we are supposed to believe them this time because they made an official visual aid?
Did you notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the visual aid? "Note that some fixes and improvements might shift as development continues" In other wards maybe next year, but most likely the focus will "shift" and the things will stay the same or continue to get worse.
sigh... the visual aid indicates that 1. they are aware. aware enough to address it instead of ignoring it like the lot of you claim. 2. that they actualy have a plan, even if they are giving themselves a leeway for things not working as originally intended which is NORMAL.
and consider for a moment... that shift could go the other way as well. something may end up getting addressed sooner than originally indicated, because it went better then expected?
I understand the frustration, believe me, i'm not immune to performance issues, on the contrary. but this constant nagging about things that they have literally JUST addressed is counter productive. if the fixes don't come in when promised and there is no communication as to way? THEN resuming the nagging makes sense.
i swear to god, its like you people expect things to be fixed instantly... it DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
After 5 years of "we will fix it next patch" I don't think anyone expects the game to be fixed instantly if at all.
I appreciate your optimism because they have a visual aid and a plan, but if history has taught us anything its that it's just more lip service to sell the new dlc and nothing will change or will continue to get worse.
I hope they prove me wrong, but until then they have earned any nagging they get.
I'm not optimistic. I'm in "wait and see" mode. that and I've been in relationships with a *** and it never, EVER helped or sped up the process. they will either do it, or they won't. nagging after acknowledgments of the issue and at least seemingly making steps to address it? more often then not results in actual delays in fixing the issue to begin with. because "if they are going to nag no matter what I do, why should I bother with fixing things in a timely manner? its not going to stop the nagging either way, so might as well take my sweet time"dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***0 -
snarkomatic✭✭✭✭They dont care. Otherwise we would be hearing about some effort taking place. Like the eu server capacity increase
yees, that's why the dedicated almost entire live stream to their performance improvement plans. becasue they don't care.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681
and because people ignore even official links, here is official visual aid
They say this before every patch and performance keeps getting worse, but we are supposed to believe them this time because they made an official visual aid?
Did you notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the visual aid? "Note that some fixes and improvements might shift as development continues" In other wards maybe next year, but most likely the focus will "shift" and the things will stay the same or continue to get worse.
sigh... the visual aid indicates that 1. they are aware. aware enough to address it instead of ignoring it like the lot of you claim. 2. that they actualy have a plan, even if they are giving themselves a leeway for things not working as originally intended which is NORMAL.
and consider for a moment... that shift could go the other way as well. something may end up getting addressed sooner than originally indicated, because it went better then expected?
I understand the frustration, believe me, i'm not immune to performance issues, on the contrary. but this constant nagging about things that they have literally JUST addressed is counter productive. if the fixes don't come in when promised and there is no communication as to way? THEN resuming the nagging makes sense.
i swear to god, its like you people expect things to be fixed instantly... it DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
After 5 years of "we will fix it next patch" I don't think anyone expects the game to be fixed instantly if at all.
I appreciate your optimism because they have a visual aid and a plan, but if history has taught us anything its that it's just more lip service to sell the new dlc and nothing will change or will continue to get worse.
I hope they prove me wrong, but until then they have earned any nagging they get.
I'm not optimistic. I'm in "wait and see" mode. that and I've been in relationships with a *** and it never, EVER helped or sped up the process. they will either do it, or they won't. nagging after acknowledgments of the issue and at least seemingly making steps to address it? more often then not results in actual delays in fixing the issue to begin with. because "if they are going to nag no matter what I do, why should I bother with fixing things in a timely manner? its not going to stop the nagging either way, so might as well take my sweet time"
That is definitely not how big profit-minded organizations work, but okay.
EU Reddit folk are always telling Americans we should protest more. Let us stretch our legs. We are learning.
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭snarkomatic wrote: »They dont care. Otherwise we would be hearing about some effort taking place. Like the eu server capacity increase
yees, that's why the dedicated almost entire live stream to their performance improvement plans. becasue they don't care.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681
and because people ignore even official links, here is official visual aid
They say this before every patch and performance keeps getting worse, but we are supposed to believe them this time because they made an official visual aid?
Did you notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the visual aid? "Note that some fixes and improvements might shift as development continues" In other wards maybe next year, but most likely the focus will "shift" and the things will stay the same or continue to get worse.
sigh... the visual aid indicates that 1. they are aware. aware enough to address it instead of ignoring it like the lot of you claim. 2. that they actualy have a plan, even if they are giving themselves a leeway for things not working as originally intended which is NORMAL.
and consider for a moment... that shift could go the other way as well. something may end up getting addressed sooner than originally indicated, because it went better then expected?
I understand the frustration, believe me, i'm not immune to performance issues, on the contrary. but this constant nagging about things that they have literally JUST addressed is counter productive. if the fixes don't come in when promised and there is no communication as to way? THEN resuming the nagging makes sense.
i swear to god, its like you people expect things to be fixed instantly... it DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
After 5 years of "we will fix it next patch" I don't think anyone expects the game to be fixed instantly if at all.
I appreciate your optimism because they have a visual aid and a plan, but if history has taught us anything its that it's just more lip service to sell the new dlc and nothing will change or will continue to get worse.
I hope they prove me wrong, but until then they have earned any nagging they get.
I'm not optimistic. I'm in "wait and see" mode. that and I've been in relationships with a *** and it never, EVER helped or sped up the process. they will either do it, or they won't. nagging after acknowledgments of the issue and at least seemingly making steps to address it? more often then not results in actual delays in fixing the issue to begin with. because "if they are going to nag no matter what I do, why should I bother with fixing things in a timely manner? its not going to stop the nagging either way, so might as well take my sweet time"
That is definitely not how big profit-minded organizations work, but okay.
EU Reddit folk are always telling Americans we should protest more. Let us stretch our legs. We are learning.
again, nagging doesn't work. dropping your subscription and stopping purchases - might since it directly hits the bottom line. for profit companies don't care about nagging as long as you keep paying. all nagging does is give headache to developers and/or community managers that have to read it and moderate the threads.
dirty worthless casual.
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snarkomatic✭✭✭✭snarkomatic wrote: »They dont care. Otherwise we would be hearing about some effort taking place. Like the eu server capacity increase
yees, that's why the dedicated almost entire live stream to their performance improvement plans. becasue they don't care.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681
and because people ignore even official links, here is official visual aid
They say this before every patch and performance keeps getting worse, but we are supposed to believe them this time because they made an official visual aid?
Did you notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the visual aid? "Note that some fixes and improvements might shift as development continues" In other wards maybe next year, but most likely the focus will "shift" and the things will stay the same or continue to get worse.
sigh... the visual aid indicates that 1. they are aware. aware enough to address it instead of ignoring it like the lot of you claim. 2. that they actualy have a plan, even if they are giving themselves a leeway for things not working as originally intended which is NORMAL.
and consider for a moment... that shift could go the other way as well. something may end up getting addressed sooner than originally indicated, because it went better then expected?
I understand the frustration, believe me, i'm not immune to performance issues, on the contrary. but this constant nagging about things that they have literally JUST addressed is counter productive. if the fixes don't come in when promised and there is no communication as to way? THEN resuming the nagging makes sense.
i swear to god, its like you people expect things to be fixed instantly... it DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
After 5 years of "we will fix it next patch" I don't think anyone expects the game to be fixed instantly if at all.
I appreciate your optimism because they have a visual aid and a plan, but if history has taught us anything its that it's just more lip service to sell the new dlc and nothing will change or will continue to get worse.
I hope they prove me wrong, but until then they have earned any nagging they get.
I'm not optimistic. I'm in "wait and see" mode. that and I've been in relationships with a *** and it never, EVER helped or sped up the process. they will either do it, or they won't. nagging after acknowledgments of the issue and at least seemingly making steps to address it? more often then not results in actual delays in fixing the issue to begin with. because "if they are going to nag no matter what I do, why should I bother with fixing things in a timely manner? its not going to stop the nagging either way, so might as well take my sweet time"
That is definitely not how big profit-minded organizations work, but okay.
EU Reddit folk are always telling Americans we should protest more. Let us stretch our legs. We are learning.
again, nagging doesn't work. dropping your subscription and stopping purchases - might since it directly hits the bottom line. for profit companies don't care about nagging as long as you keep paying. all nagging does is give headache to developers and/or community managers that have to read it and moderate the threads.
Already stopped my sub and haven't bought from the crown store in ages, but I disagree entirely that somehow us going into radio silence and continuing to play the game without comment would result in BETTER response to our complaints. That's not how real life works, and I say that as someone who works in customer service and has to listen to all the nagging. Trust me, it's effective.
Like ... how do you imagine they finally got the picture in the first place? It definitely wasn't from 5 years of us not nagging lol.Edited by snarkomatic on August 11, 2019 5:08PM7 -
itscompton✭✭✭✭✭
✭snarkomatic wrote: »They dont care. Otherwise we would be hearing about some effort taking place. Like the eu server capacity increase
yees, that's why the dedicated almost entire live stream to their performance improvement plans. becasue they don't care.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681
and because people ignore even official links, here is official visual aid
They say this before every patch and performance keeps getting worse, but we are supposed to believe them this time because they made an official visual aid?
Did you notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the visual aid? "Note that some fixes and improvements might shift as development continues" In other wards maybe next year, but most likely the focus will "shift" and the things will stay the same or continue to get worse.
sigh... the visual aid indicates that 1. they are aware. aware enough to address it instead of ignoring it like the lot of you claim. 2. that they actualy have a plan, even if they are giving themselves a leeway for things not working as originally intended which is NORMAL.
and consider for a moment... that shift could go the other way as well. something may end up getting addressed sooner than originally indicated, because it went better then expected?
I understand the frustration, believe me, i'm not immune to performance issues, on the contrary. but this constant nagging about things that they have literally JUST addressed is counter productive. if the fixes don't come in when promised and there is no communication as to way? THEN resuming the nagging makes sense.
i swear to god, its like you people expect things to be fixed instantly... it DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
After 5 years of "we will fix it next patch" I don't think anyone expects the game to be fixed instantly if at all.
I appreciate your optimism because they have a visual aid and a plan, but if history has taught us anything its that it's just more lip service to sell the new dlc and nothing will change or will continue to get worse.
I hope they prove me wrong, but until then they have earned any nagging they get.
I'm not optimistic. I'm in "wait and see" mode. that and I've been in relationships with a *** and it never, EVER helped or sped up the process. they will either do it, or they won't. nagging after acknowledgments of the issue and at least seemingly making steps to address it? more often then not results in actual delays in fixing the issue to begin with. because "if they are going to nag no matter what I do, why should I bother with fixing things in a timely manner? its not going to stop the nagging either way, so might as well take my sweet time"
That is definitely not how big profit-minded organizations work, but okay.
EU Reddit folk are always telling Americans we should protest more. Let us stretch our legs. We are learning.
again, nagging doesn't work. dropping your subscription and stopping purchases - might since it directly hits the bottom line. for profit companies don't care about nagging as long as you keep paying. all nagging does is give headache to developers and/or community managers that have to read it and moderate the threads.
I was a subscriber since PS4 release, spent hundreds buying my house and decorating it, bought mounts and outfits over the years. Re-geared and relearned to play with my main through many meta shifts. But the performance issues have made playing the game more frustration than fun so I quit subbing in February and haven't spent a penny on it since. I was playing a couple of hours a month (instead of a day) but now I haven't been on in over a month because last time I played there were instances where bar swap would just refuse to work for MINUTES at a time and every keep fight I was at turned into a long loading screen in the middle of the fight. PvP in ESO can be so much fun it's addicting but not when it runs like this, it's just not even worth logging in now.Edited by itscompton on August 11, 2019 7:36PM6 -
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✭✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »Performance is a joke. Literally every aspect of the game is impacted. Canceled events bc of performance issues possibly running new players off.
It's pathetic. All of it. The lack of urgency especially.
Ps4na
I play on PS4 too, performance is not a joke.
Not 1000 of players are complaining except few and these players should check their internet as well!0 -
Amira✭✭✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »Performance is a joke. Literally every aspect of the game is impacted. Canceled events bc of performance issues possibly running new players off.
It's pathetic. All of it. The lack of urgency especially.
Ps4na
Thanx for bringing this up OP. Every other game plays wonderfully except eso because they're too cheap and won't fix this pile of steaming s**t they tout as the best mmo. Performance will get worse.
Got to love the white knight comments.
Edited by Amira on August 11, 2019 7:54PM5 -
snarkomatic✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Performance is a joke. Literally every aspect of the game is impacted. Canceled events bc of performance issues possibly running new players off.
It's pathetic. All of it. The lack of urgency especially.
Ps4na
I play on PS4 too, performance is not a joke.
Not 1000 of players are complaining except few and these players should check their internet as well!
Half my friends list quit over performance on PS4, and my internet runs WoW, FFXIV, and every single one of my roommate's FPS games of choice without so much as a hiccup.
Get a clue.7 -
EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭itscompton wrote: »snarkomatic wrote: »They dont care. Otherwise we would be hearing about some effort taking place. Like the eu server capacity increase
yees, that's why the dedicated almost entire live stream to their performance improvement plans. becasue they don't care.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681
and because people ignore even official links, here is official visual aid
They say this before every patch and performance keeps getting worse, but we are supposed to believe them this time because they made an official visual aid?
Did you notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the visual aid? "Note that some fixes and improvements might shift as development continues" In other wards maybe next year, but most likely the focus will "shift" and the things will stay the same or continue to get worse.
sigh... the visual aid indicates that 1. they are aware. aware enough to address it instead of ignoring it like the lot of you claim. 2. that they actualy have a plan, even if they are giving themselves a leeway for things not working as originally intended which is NORMAL.
and consider for a moment... that shift could go the other way as well. something may end up getting addressed sooner than originally indicated, because it went better then expected?
I understand the frustration, believe me, i'm not immune to performance issues, on the contrary. but this constant nagging about things that they have literally JUST addressed is counter productive. if the fixes don't come in when promised and there is no communication as to way? THEN resuming the nagging makes sense.
i swear to god, its like you people expect things to be fixed instantly... it DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
After 5 years of "we will fix it next patch" I don't think anyone expects the game to be fixed instantly if at all.
I appreciate your optimism because they have a visual aid and a plan, but if history has taught us anything its that it's just more lip service to sell the new dlc and nothing will change or will continue to get worse.
I hope they prove me wrong, but until then they have earned any nagging they get.
I'm not optimistic. I'm in "wait and see" mode. that and I've been in relationships with a *** and it never, EVER helped or sped up the process. they will either do it, or they won't. nagging after acknowledgments of the issue and at least seemingly making steps to address it? more often then not results in actual delays in fixing the issue to begin with. because "if they are going to nag no matter what I do, why should I bother with fixing things in a timely manner? its not going to stop the nagging either way, so might as well take my sweet time"
That is definitely not how big profit-minded organizations work, but okay.
EU Reddit folk are always telling Americans we should protest more. Let us stretch our legs. We are learning.
again, nagging doesn't work. dropping your subscription and stopping purchases - might since it directly hits the bottom line. for profit companies don't care about nagging as long as you keep paying. all nagging does is give headache to developers and/or community managers that have to read it and moderate the threads.
I was a subscriber since PS4 release, spent hundreds buying my house and decorating it, bought mounts and outfits over the years. Re-geared and relearned to play with my main through many meta shifts. But the performance issues have made playing the game more frustration than fun so I quit subbing in February and haven't spent a penny on it since. I was playing a couple of hours a month (instead of a day) but now I haven't been on in over a month because last time I played there were instances where bar swap would just refuse to work for MINUTES at a time and every keep fight I was at turned into a long loading screen in the middle of the fight. PvP in ESO can be so much fun it's addicting but not when it runs like this, it's just not even worth logging in now.
Ive been unsubbed and not financially supporting the bs they are feeding since last Octobers incident. I gave then 3+years subs for me, my wife, and kid. Crown purchases too, i bought in TRUSTING they couldn't neglect performance. Afterall, fluid performance is what separates good games from great games.
If i support (paying) you and you neglect what's important to me (and many), you bet your bottom line I'll pull my support too. Trust goes both ways, otherwise you're just getting taken advantage of.3 -
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I want it to be Shiseido Ever Bloom for my unicorn.
Zos did a great job fixing the EU servers and listening to player feedback....wait they didn't.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/467936/pc-eu-server-update-april-11/p14 -
Jayroo✭✭✭✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Performance is a joke. Literally every aspect of the game is impacted. Canceled events bc of performance issues possibly running new players off.
It's pathetic. All of it. The lack of urgency especially.
Wow, you must be the first person to notice and bring this up.
Thanks for your valuable contribution!
The louder we are the better. You must be one of those sheep feeding the greed.
Believe it or not, but the ps4/xbox one players COMBINED dwarf in size of pc, so he probably has zero insight.
Also, you're preaching to a choir, they already plan on fixing it you just need patience; programming a server with thousands of people is more complex than you think. Maybe spend more time reading up and less time complainingEdited by Jayroo on August 11, 2019 8:17PM0 -
snarkomatic✭✭✭✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Performance is a joke. Literally every aspect of the game is impacted. Canceled events bc of performance issues possibly running new players off.
It's pathetic. All of it. The lack of urgency especially.
Wow, you must be the first person to notice and bring this up.
Thanks for your valuable contribution!
The louder we are the better. You must be one of those sheep feeding the greed.
Believe it or not, but the ps4/xbox one players COMBINED dwarf in size of pc, so he probably has zero insight.
Also, you're preaching to a choir, they already plan on fixing it you just need patience; programming a server with thousands of people is more complex than you think. Maybe spend more time reading up and less time complaining
Didn't they say the player base was pretty evenly split between the three?
https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2016/10/14/13283030/elder-scrolls-online-player-numbers-console-pc-split-matt-firor-bethesda
Granted, this is a few years old, but assuming the ratios have held while population overall rose or declined ...3 -
Jayroo✭✭✭✭snarkomatic wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Performance is a joke. Literally every aspect of the game is impacted. Canceled events bc of performance issues possibly running new players off.
It's pathetic. All of it. The lack of urgency especially.
Wow, you must be the first person to notice and bring this up.
Thanks for your valuable contribution!
The louder we are the better. You must be one of those sheep feeding the greed.
Believe it or not, but the ps4/xbox one players COMBINED dwarf in size of pc, so he probably has zero insight.
Also, you're preaching to a choir, they already plan on fixing it you just need patience; programming a server with thousands of people is more complex than you think. Maybe spend more time reading up and less time complaining
Didn't they say the player base was pretty evenly split between the three?
https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2016/10/14/13283030/elder-scrolls-online-player-numbers-console-pc-split-matt-firor-bethesda
Granted, this is a few years old, but assuming the ratios have held while population overall rose or declined ...
look behind you, I think my point missed your head0 -
snarkomatic✭✭✭✭snarkomatic wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Performance is a joke. Literally every aspect of the game is impacted. Canceled events bc of performance issues possibly running new players off.
It's pathetic. All of it. The lack of urgency especially.
Wow, you must be the first person to notice and bring this up.
Thanks for your valuable contribution!
The louder we are the better. You must be one of those sheep feeding the greed.
Believe it or not, but the ps4/xbox one players COMBINED dwarf in size of pc, so he probably has zero insight.
Also, you're preaching to a choir, they already plan on fixing it you just need patience; programming a server with thousands of people is more complex than you think. Maybe spend more time reading up and less time complaining
Didn't they say the player base was pretty evenly split between the three?
https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2016/10/14/13283030/elder-scrolls-online-player-numbers-console-pc-split-matt-firor-bethesda
Granted, this is a few years old, but assuming the ratios have held while population overall rose or declined ...
look behind you, I think my point missed your head
Maybe it's a language barrier. I might have misunderstood your point.
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