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Give DK's an execute skill
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With the DOT meta coming up in the next patch isn’t it about time they gave Mag DK’s an execute. I mean since we are the “attrition” class but not really since magicka every class will now be an “attrition class” with the changes coming up.
Sorcerer has mages fury
Templar has Jesus beam [Radiant Destruction]
NB’s have Assassin's Blade
Wardens have Feral Guardian not the best I know but it’s still there.
Necromancer doesn’t have one either but it has Major Vulnerability with Frozen Colossus for like 5.2 seconds which is pretty dang good and is not tied to the last 25% of health on the target.
DK’s nothing zero nata.
To be fair DK’s have do have Standard of Might that increases our damage by 12% if we can talk the person or enemy to stand in our circle of fire and pain. Some bosses this works on others not so much and if the enemy is a real person and they stand in the Standard of Might then they are too dumb to live anyway.
Really I think they should add a execute in the destruction staff line since stamina has several weapon executes they can use instead. Plus stamina is ahead of magic in the amount of DPS it can do. Maybe this would help close the gap a little.
Thoughts?
Sorcerer has mages fury
Templar has Jesus beam [Radiant Destruction]
NB’s have Assassin's Blade
Wardens have Feral Guardian not the best I know but it’s still there.
Necromancer doesn’t have one either but it has Major Vulnerability with Frozen Colossus for like 5.2 seconds which is pretty dang good and is not tied to the last 25% of health on the target.
DK’s nothing zero nata.
To be fair DK’s have do have Standard of Might that increases our damage by 12% if we can talk the person or enemy to stand in our circle of fire and pain. Some bosses this works on others not so much and if the enemy is a real person and they stand in the Standard of Might then they are too dumb to live anyway.
Really I think they should add a execute in the destruction staff line since stamina has several weapon executes they can use instead. Plus stamina is ahead of magic in the amount of DPS it can do. Maybe this would help close the gap a little.
Thoughts?
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Hämähäkki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DK's used to have an execute. They patched it out about 3-4 years ago because it was to "strong"
It used to be in the Molten Armaments skill. And if I remeber right it was something like..."Heavy attacks deal 300% more damage to targets under 25% of their health"
I don't remember the exact description.
I would like it back too, but also think ZOS is not going to do anything about it.TherealHämähäkki7 -
Saril_Durzam✭✭✭✭Rigth now magDKs are, as you just said, kings of attrition where attrition is king for mag next patch. Right now magDK has best mag DPS just behind magtemplars. I wouldnt complain to ZoS, youk now which kind of things they do...
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✭✭Saril_Durzam wrote: »Rigth now magDKs are, as you just said, kings of attrition where attrition is king for mag next patch. Right now magDK has best mag DPS just behind magtemplars. I wouldnt complain to ZoS, youk now which kind of things they do...
Which game do you play? With the exception of mag warden, magDK has been the worst magicka DPS since like the removal of dynamic ultimate generation. And that is a long time ago.EU PC6 -
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✭I want a reverse noxious breathe execute that shoots out behind you.
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✭✭Saril_Durzam wrote: »Rigth now magDKs are, as you just said, kings of attrition where attrition is king for mag next patch. Right now magDK has best mag DPS just behind magtemplars. I wouldnt complain to ZoS, youk now which kind of things they do...
Which game do you play? With the exception of mag warden, magDK has been the worst magicka DPS since like the removal of dynamic ultimate generation. And that is a long time ago.
That’s an L2P issue.
Magdk is very strong right now after the loads of buffs they received last patch. Any complaints about mdk I’m seeing is simply and l2p issue.
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Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭Saril_Durzam wrote: »Rigth now magDKs are, as you just said, kings of attrition where attrition is king for mag next patch. Right now magDK has best mag DPS just behind magtemplars. I wouldnt complain to ZoS, youk now which kind of things they do...
Which game do you play? With the exception of mag warden, magDK has been the worst magicka DPS since like the removal of dynamic ultimate generation. And that is a long time ago.
That’s an L2P issue.
Magdk is very strong right now after the loads of buffs they received last patch. Any complaints about mdk I’m seeing is simply and l2p issue.
Clearly people can never be pleased
So besides the OP lack of skill is there any other reason why MDK shouldn't have a complete build?
And by "loads of buffs" do you mean the one skill that got buffed?
Not trying to be rude. You just have no idea what you're talking about.
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Saril_Durzam✭✭✭✭Saril_Durzam wrote: »Rigth now magDKs are, as you just said, kings of attrition where attrition is king for mag next patch. Right now magDK has best mag DPS just behind magtemplars. I wouldnt complain to ZoS, youk now which kind of things they do...
Which game do you play? With the exception of mag warden, magDK has been the worst magicka DPS since like the removal of dynamic ultimate generation. And that is a long time ago.
That was true... until last patch, and its improved now. magDK is faring well on the DPS department. Better than ever, probably.Edited by Saril_Durzam on August 7, 2019 2:18PM1 -
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✭✭DK's used to have an execute. They patched it out about 3-4 years ago because it was to "strong"
It used to be in the Molten Armaments skill. And if I remeber right it was something like..."Heavy attacks deal 300% more damage to targets under 25% of their health"
I don't remember the exact description.
I would like it back too, but also think ZOS is not going to do anything about it.
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✭✭Saril_Durzam wrote: »Saril_Durzam wrote: »Rigth now magDKs are, as you just said, kings of attrition where attrition is king for mag next patch. Right now magDK has best mag DPS just behind magtemplars. I wouldnt complain to ZoS, youk now which kind of things they do...
Which game do you play? With the exception of mag warden, magDK has been the worst magicka DPS since like the removal of dynamic ultimate generation. And that is a long time ago.
That was true... until last patch, and its improved now. magDK is faring well on the DPS department. Better than ever, probably.
Yup, but sDK on the other hand...Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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Grandma✭✭✭✭✭don't forget necromancers get huge crit % bonuses DURING execute, so their whole kit executes a little harder.
Magsorc execute eats entire booty. It's a DPS loss in i believe every situation? we'll see how scalebreaker goes out.
jesus beam is great and one of my fav skills in the game. love magplar.
Wardens could use an actual execute. I don't really count bear since not everyone uses it.
DK... magdks are in a sorry state. I just really dislike that the only reason magDK don't exist is because the tank is already a DK And brings all those tools to the table.GH / 3/04/2021 / Elemental Catalyst Necromancer0 -
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✭Saril_Durzam wrote: »Saril_Durzam wrote: »Rigth now magDKs are, as you just said, kings of attrition where attrition is king for mag next patch. Right now magDK has best mag DPS just behind magtemplars. I wouldnt complain to ZoS, youk now which kind of things they do...
Which game do you play? With the exception of mag warden, magDK has been the worst magicka DPS since like the removal of dynamic ultimate generation. And that is a long time ago.
That was true... until last patch, and its improved now. magDK is faring well on the DPS department. Better than ever, probably.
Yup, but sDK on the other hand...
..... uses the plethora of weapon skill executes.August Palatine Davadin Bloodstrake - Nord Dragon Knight - PC NA - Gray Host
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Ozazz✭✭✭✭LOL Is a undogeable fossilize and D leap not enough, Please save the population the headache.0 -
Ramber✭✭✭✭I wouldn't ask for anything when your at or near the top of the DPS food chain, they might look your way for a nerf or 2 for acting up.0
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✭✭I wouldn't ask for anything when your at or near the top of the DPS food chain, they might look your way for a nerf or 2 for acting up.
Are you Talking About PvE dps?
If so magdk isnt anywhere near or god forbid on the top of the dps Food chain. It gets outparsed by some magicka classes and is behind most Stamina classes, takes a melee spot away from stamdds and offers 0 Group Utility that you wouldnt get from your tank being a dk.Politeness is respecting others.
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✭✭Saril_Durzam wrote: »Saril_Durzam wrote: »Rigth now magDKs are, as you just said, kings of attrition where attrition is king for mag next patch. Right now magDK has best mag DPS just behind magtemplars. I wouldnt complain to ZoS, youk now which kind of things they do...
Which game do you play? With the exception of mag warden, magDK has been the worst magicka DPS since like the removal of dynamic ultimate generation. And that is a long time ago.
That was true... until last patch, and its improved now. magDK is faring well on the DPS department. Better than ever, probably.
No, it is not true. I've mained a MagDK since beta, and we are still way behind other classes. And that extremely badly designed whip seething fury crap didn't change our order in the food chain.Saril_Durzam wrote: »Rigth now magDKs are, as you just said, kings of attrition where attrition is king for mag next patch. Right now magDK has best mag DPS just behind magtemplars. I wouldnt complain to ZoS, youk now which kind of things they do...
Which game do you play? With the exception of mag warden, magDK has been the worst magicka DPS since like the removal of dynamic ultimate generation. And that is a long time ago.
That’s an L2P issue.
Magdk is very strong right now after the loads of buffs they received last patch. Any complaints about mdk I’m seeing is simply and l2p issue.
Clearly people can never be pleased
Learn 2 play issue? Mained MagDK since beta, but yeah. And if you think that seething fury is a buff, you are one who needs to learn to understand the play style of the MagDK.
Please, tell me, how MagDK is strong, and how it can compare DPS wise to sorcerer or templar. I'm all ears
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Tipsy✭✭✭I dont know about that but a lot of the dk skills are bugged
Like in pve when you use dark talons,mobs are supposed to be immobilized.
Yet they walk backwards ,moving from their location while talons is active.
At times stonefist & firy breath doesn't seem to land on the target(s) even if the mobs
are right in front of it
Firy grip bugs out at times too
Inhale doesnt always affect the mobs in the 8m radius
Most of these skills burn your magicka down to the ground ,so if you have to cast them
twice to hit ,,often you already burned half of what you have
Overall I think Dk might possibly be one of the classes with most bugged skills in the game this momentEdited by Tipsy on August 8, 2019 1:04PMhttps://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/462527/champion-of-the-gods-deadra-worship-cp-to-next-level
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✭✭LOL Is a undogeable fossilize and D leap not enough, Please save the population the headache.
nopes.
Foss got 2 CC immunity, one on it's stun and one on inmo so it's kind of wortless now. And leap is still very unreliabe.
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✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »I will trade you Fury for Leap. Problem solved!
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zParallaxz✭✭✭✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »zParallaxz wrote: »
Yup, KNOWN Sorc who begged for them to clip wings lol.
He’s a good magsorc, in retrospect he just never accounted for classes that counter his particular play style. I’ve fought him a fair amount of times when the patches were in mag builds favor and we fought with normal non cheese builds. But he just kept on losing because, “ he doesn’t know how to kill non s&b magdks”. A lot of people didn’t realize back then that if you saw a magdk without the meta s&b, and he’s rocking dual wield or destro resto ( pre meta). Your going to get the burst in a mag v mag duel.
Edit: This is all without using wingsEdited by zParallaxz on August 8, 2019 11:02PM0 -
TrinityBreaker✭✭✭✭✭Molten Armaments used to increased your heavy attak damage by 140% to targets that were below 25% health. I wish it was 300% though.Ebonheart for life.
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✭✭TrinityBreaker wrote: »Molten Armaments used to increased your heavy attak damage by 140% to targets that were below 25% health. I wish it was 300% though.
It would be nice if Molten Armaments would again give us DK's a execute but I really wished it wasn't on the heavy attack since heavy attacks damage was nerfed.
As to everyone thanks for your comments in short basically most people think it is ok we don't have one no matter how unfair or want to trade a regular skill for a ultimate.
My hope is they give some help when they audit the passives.0 -
Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭TrinityBreaker wrote: »Molten Armaments used to increased your heavy attak damage by 140% to targets that were below 25% health. I wish it was 300% though.
I hit someone for 28k heavy attack inferno staff before they nerfed it. Dude sent me the SS on PS40 -
TrinityBreaker✭✭✭✭✭TrinityBreaker wrote: »Molten Armaments used to increased your heavy attak damage by 140% to targets that were below 25% health. I wish it was 300% though.
I hit someone for 28k heavy attack inferno staff before they nerfed it. Dude sent me the SS on PS4
Sounds legit. Then ZoS nerfed heavy attacks because reasons.Ebonheart for life.
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Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭TrinityBreaker wrote: »TrinityBreaker wrote: »Molten Armaments used to increased your heavy attak damage by 140% to targets that were below 25% health. I wish it was 300% though.
I hit someone for 28k heavy attack inferno staff before they nerfed it. Dude sent me the SS on PS4
Sounds legit. Then ZoS nerfed heavy attacks because reasons.
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