Does ZOS's combat team understand in game mechanics better than the best pve'rs and pvp'ers

Ayastigi

If this is poll ends up favoring option 1 more maybe the combat team should take notice yea?

BigBragg

Intimately understanding the mechanics is not the same skill set as being able to perform them at a high caliber.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

"Does ZOS's combat team understand in game mechanics better than the best pve'rs and pvp'ers"

I don't think they understand them even as much as mediocre PvE'ers and PvP'ers


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Chicharron

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

I really doubt it.

I see them more as an amateur team.

Daedric_NB_187

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Look at the PTS patch notes for the last couple of updates. It's a clown show with no direction or purpose. They buff and nerf *** with no rhyme or reason. That should tell you how much they know about their own game.

Xvorg

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

Daedric_NB_187 wrote: »

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Look at the PTS patch notes for the last couple of updates. It's a clown show with no direction or purpose. They buff and nerf *** with no rhyme or reason. That should tell you how much they know about their own game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwUk19cWarI

thelawnranger79

I thought Gilliam the Rogue was on the combat team? I know he’s just one guy but he was one of the best content creators and number crunchers in the game.

Thogard

Yes they do (they are the combat team after all)

Really depends which part of the game.

Football Referees have a better understanding of the rules of the game than the players. Coaches understand the strats better than the players... and the NFL understands how to make money better than the players.

Solariken

Yes they do (they are the combat team after all)

I've played with and against Gilliam many times. He's an excellent player and understands all the nuances of PvP and PvE. I don't agree with the combat devs on everything, but it really seems like they're trying to improve the game.

Aznarb

Yes they do (they are the combat team after all)

knowing the game =/= able to do content

They create the game and design it, ofc they understand better how it work.
That doesn't mean they are good player and have nothing to do with.

Skwor

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

Aznarb wrote: »

knowing the game =/= able to do content

They create the game and design it, ofc they understand better how it work.
That doesn't mean they are good player and have nothing to do with.

One does not follow the other. Einstein gave us relativity but refused to accept some key predictions such as black holes. One could argue some physicists and mathematicians had a better understanding of relativity than Einstein.

usmguy1234

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

When a company relies on cheesed stats from biased forum trolls to make game changes rather than actually testing their game, the answer is unequivocally, no.

Skullstachio

50-50. As far as I can tell, they struggle with the necessary changes to abilities which either get praise to some extent(thumbs up to you), or get ridiculed. Because they are trying their best to balance abilities to perform just as amicably in both PvE and PvP.

What ZOS should do is add a “Normalization” mechanic to some of the PvP campaigns. Just like how unoccupied dark zones in Tom Clancy’s the Division 2 have normalization which alter most abilities and Passives to the point of being something completely different that you could only experience in Cyrodiil(PvP only). While some campaigns should be left as they are, just like an occupied dark zone. similar mechanics like that could open new avenues in ESO (while some may disagree) which could ease the tension for the combat team in the long run.

Sure it could take a long time, but if done correctly, they just might make a breakthrough.

Emmagoldman

I understand where they are going, but I don’t agree with the direction, but whatever, not my game. The focus is generally PVE centered with normalization that (all classes can tank, heal and dps) with similar performance. In some regards, they’ve done this. I remember awhile ago when everyone was on a magsorc for dps. Obviously there are more options at this point.

However, I like uniqueness and some classes over performing in certain aspects of game play. I liked third bar on sorcs, wings that reflect, and even stronger Jesus beams. But all in all, who will they listen to? They have one part of the community that wants all classes, regardless if stam or mag to parse the same, and another that wants unique. Both will complain. WTF ZOS, my magden ice abilities can’t put parse a nb!!! Game is broke AF!!!!

I know that if I was on the dev team, I wouldn’t bother to even read forums and listen to complaining. You can implement something the “community wants” then get blasted the next day after implementing. Look at necro. Years of campaigning by members of the community, years of “ why are class abilities all stam”, then next day, this class sucks because it isn’t exactly how I want it! I wanted a Skelton army. Come on!!!

idk

The question is not clear as the developers, the combat team in particular, knows aspects of the combat better than any of us. That does not mean they know how to play the game to the top levels, but then again, most of us do not either.

However in that, one member of the combat team was a top player in PvE raids, vMA and PvP. I think many still remember Gil.

Gilvoth

Yes they do (they are the combat team after all)

eso was not created to be exploit, glitch, and cheat dependent.
these devs know Exactly what they are doing.
they are fixing the game and the problems that plague it.

TheBonesXXX

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

I also think that most of the players dont understand the game either.

MaxJrFTW

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

Doesn't seem like it. Vigor gets nerfed back to how it is on live servers. Meanwhile Rapid regen which was healing for the same amount but easier to buff(heavy attack/brp resto), stays the same. Stam classes will have a 13k heal over 5 seconds, while mag classes will have one that does 30k over 5 seconds.

shaielzafine

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

thelawnranger79 wrote: »

I thought Gilliam the Rogue was on the combat team? I know he’s just one guy but he was one of the best content creators and number crunchers in the game.

I saw Gilliam the Rogues notes on racial passive changes which just shuffled the meta races around instead of actually being balanced. (Ex. Orc for stamina dps where Breton as stamina dps would be a joke). I don't think any of the devs can complete their own hardmode mini trials they've designed, and if the devs PvP I guess they're absolutely happy with Cyrodiil the way it is then. Because the game's performance and the zerg ability spam like snare spam is so much fun

Ayastigi

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

Tbh I really wouldn't care about any changes if performance was better just wanted to see where everybody was at

BRogueNZ

I think they feel the game is perfect on their LAN.
If they only looked outside their window they'd see the peasants are revolting
When the next new at least as decent mmo comes out, they'll be treading water carrying our RL gold but still remain afloat.

frostz417

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

Highly doubt any of the devs have any thumbs and are remotely good at this game. I’d say they’re in the skill level of your typical LFG zergling who gets farmed
Or in pve perspective, someone who struggles in veteran non DLC dungeons

Mettaricana

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

Dude they can't even find the password to log in to their pc for work everyday muchless understand the game...

Odovacar

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

They know the ins and outs yes, but can ALL, not some, but ALL compete the hard content competently...in my opinion no. Sadly, we'll never fully know the real answer to this poll.

The_Lex

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

I think they understand how it should work on paper, but definitely not in practice. It's the same as the tool-tip warriors. Of course, that's why ZOS tends to listen to the tool-tip warriors the most.

Tandor

Yes they do (they are the combat team after all)

Yes, on the basis that they are balancing the game around the abilities and playstyle of the many and not the few.

preevious

Third option : it doesn't matter.

Seems like a rant disguised as a poll ..

Zevrro

preevious wrote: »

Third option : it doesn't matter.

Seems like a rant disguised as a poll ..

How is the fact that the team that are balancing the game don't understand game mechanics something that doesn't matter?

Sandman929

"Understand" is maybe too strong. They certainly know them, they made them. But I don't think a lot of what they've made (or what they maintain since they haven't all been there since creation) isn't used how I think they think it's used.

I don't think they know the day to day of PvE, and certainly not PvP better than some of their customers. I don't think they know how the tools are used.

Sandman929

But then again, we see a handful of the changes in a small window with no insight as to the direction, if there is one, because their communication is so lackluster.
Maybe the confusing changes make sense with the larger picture

Kalante

No they do not (ZOS combat team can't complete eso's hardest content after all)

for what is worth theres guilliam and he isn't doing a good job so far. Ive never felt like playing pve and pvp less and with this lag and frame rate issues I think it's time to move on. These entire two weeks Ive only played eso twice one for just buying a race token from some sucker and another one playing for mere 20 minutes in pvp because the lag was atrocious along with getting 4v1 by a bunch nobodies that I could had easily destroy if this was 2016 when there was barely any lag, so I asked myself what am I doing here?