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Which class is the most like a warlock?

HailSanta28
It used to be a toss up between sorc and nb, but with the necro, who fills the dark magic user niche best? I'm thinking DnD warlock as opposed to WoW warlock.
Edited by HailSanta28 on August 4, 2019 6:42PM

Which class is the most like a warlock? 120 votes

Magicka Sorcerer
45%
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Magicka Nightblade
16%
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Magicka Necromancer
27%
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Other
10%
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  • max_only
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    Magicka Necromancer
    Necro only because it’s too new for them to start nerfing the fun out of it like they did with the other classes. After they’ve sold their quota they’ll nerf it to death just like they did with warden.

    Edit: it’s most like a dnd warlock because it’s actually powerful like a dnd warlock is supposed to be.
    Edited by max_only on August 4, 2019 6:41PM
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  • Aurie
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    Magicka Necromancer
    It's got to be the Necro
  • mairwen85
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    Thematically not warlock.

    Warlocks are more physical than sorcerers and wizards, relying more on charisma than intelligence; Cantrips and Eldritch Invocations, siphoning, weaknesses, curses and debuffs -- life stealing and time manipulation... hmmm

    I'd say Magblade with a few choice abilities from psijic skill line, and entropy/degeneration from mages guild, and no elemental abilities or enchantments.


    Edit:

    you could also probably build a templar similar to DnD warlock, conceptually.
    Edited by mairwen85 on August 4, 2019 6:57PM
  • Raisin
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    I agree necro is a reasonable answer. I focused on sorc cause it has the closest to deal with a patron deity theme.
  • mairwen85
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    Raisin wrote: »
    I agree necro is a reasonable answer. I focused on sorc cause it has the closest to deal with a patron deity theme.

    This is also true. But it doesn't feel like a warlock to me.

    It would be awesome if there were daedric skill lines you could gain by worshiping at a daedric altar -- only one skill line active at a time (like mundus boons), and with powers and passives unique to that 'patron' :smile:
  • Raisin
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    I agree necro is a reasonable answer. I focused on sorc cause it has the closest to deal with a patron deity theme.

    This is also true. But it doesn't feel like a warlock to me.

    It would be awesome if there were daedric skill lines you could gain by worshiping at a daedric altar -- only one skill line active at a time (like mundus boons), and with powers and passives unique to that 'patron' :smile:

    Yeah I getcha. It has the setup, but less of the feel. That said, DND warlocks are also more versatile than the typical fiend/archfey/you get the drill theme, so I kind of feel like it's fairer to think about the concept of the class, rather than the vibes of the common patrons. I guess both sorc (with summoning focus) and necro do satisfy the feeling of having committed their life to their craft for me.

    But yes, I def agree that the specific daedra worshipping would be much nicer (and obviously fit more). But alas, that's probably left for roleplaying.
  • mairwen85
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    Magicka Nightblade
    Raisin wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    I agree necro is a reasonable answer. I focused on sorc cause it has the closest to deal with a patron deity theme.

    This is also true. But it doesn't feel like a warlock to me.

    It would be awesome if there were daedric skill lines you could gain by worshiping at a daedric altar -- only one skill line active at a time (like mundus boons), and with powers and passives unique to that 'patron' :smile:

    Yeah I getcha. It has the setup, but less of the feel. That said, DND warlocks are also more versatile than the typical fiend/archfey/you get the drill theme, so I kind of feel like it's fairer to think about the concept of the class, rather than the vibes of the common patrons. I guess both sorc (with summoning focus) and necro do satisfy the feeling of having committed their life to their craft for me.

    But yes, I def agree that the specific daedra worshipping would be much nicer (and obviously fit more). But alas, that's probably left for roleplaying.

    Interesting point. Conceptually, as i said further up, even magplar could be built to fit the bill. The simple fact that you can build beyond the class is what makes this an interesting question.

    I wonder if anyone could post a true ESO analog of DnD warlock -- would be pretty cool to see as an RP build, and if end game viable, that's a bonus :smile:

    Gauntlet thrown down to anyone wants to pick it up...
    Edited by mairwen85 on August 4, 2019 7:13PM
  • Mitrenga
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    Magicka Nightblade
    I really enjoyed a NB tank as a warlock. Locking enemies, dealing damage and all while supporting the team. However, NB tank is not working anymore. Perhaps after the patch I may try again.
  • Raisin
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    I agree necro is a reasonable answer. I focused on sorc cause it has the closest to deal with a patron deity theme.

    This is also true. But it doesn't feel like a warlock to me.

    It would be awesome if there were daedric skill lines you could gain by worshiping at a daedric altar -- only one skill line active at a time (like mundus boons), and with powers and passives unique to that 'patron' :smile:

    Yeah I getcha. It has the setup, but less of the feel. That said, DND warlocks are also more versatile than the typical fiend/archfey/you get the drill theme, so I kind of feel like it's fairer to think about the concept of the class, rather than the vibes of the common patrons. I guess both sorc (with summoning focus) and necro do satisfy the feeling of having committed their life to their craft for me.

    But yes, I def agree that the specific daedra worshipping would be much nicer (and obviously fit more). But alas, that's probably left for roleplaying.

    Interesting point. Conceptually, as i said further up, even magplar could be built to fit the bill. The simple fact that you can build beyond the class is what makes this an interesting question.

    I wonder if anyone could post a true ESO analog of DnD warlock -- would be pretty cool to see as an RP build, and if end game viable, that's a bonus :smile:

    Gauntlet thrown down to anyone wants to pick it up...

    The problem once you go to magplar is that you start getting into the cleric vs. warlock debate. If we assume a Templar to have a light/life domain patron that they don't consider a usual cleric relationship, sure. But there's few strongly good aligned/lawful deities that would do such a thing. The reason a lot of warlocks aren't clerics is because they require strict rules to enforce a mutually beneficial relationship. Sure clerics do more or less the same thing, but the basis of the relationship is more open and trusting. It's not a business relationship.
    ...anyway, I think it's also about intention. Going back to ESO Templar, if their source of power was based on a personal choice and gain rather than public service/worship for the sake of worship, they may be a warlock. :P
  • TheShadowScout
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    Magicka Sorcerer
    The basic idea of a "Warlock" is the male version of "Witch", as in someone who gets their mystical powers through pacts with otherworldly and usually demonic entities.
    Same in D&D (which is why they are more charisma powered then intelligence - gotta sweet-talk those entities into giving you a good deal after all!)

    Thus... the daedra-powered Sorceror seems most fitting I daresay!
  • logarifmik
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    Magicka Sorcerer
    I consider my main a warlock-like character, but calling him "summoner". In battle he rely on summoned daedras: scamp, winged twilight, storm atronach and daedroth.
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  • kimaeril
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    I played a Warlock in DnD and to me none of these classes are very similar, but that's just my opinion. Many years ago when I played DnD I played an Eladrin Star pact Warlock and switched to a Dark pact, or vice versa. That character was so much fun to play. I know they're two different classes, but I was hoping the Magcro or whatever you want to call it would be close to the DnD Warlock but it's not.
  • Unij
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    What is a Warlock?
    Main char is a Strong Nord Man, Thief, Vampire, Healer, Mastercrafter. PC-EU since 2016.
  • Tipsy
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    I guess if soul magic would have a class related to it,you could have called it a Warlock as they are the caller of spirits. Magistrate Vox wielding Veloth's hammer could be seen as a warlock maybe.As she fueled her power using soulwells. I can see why people say necromancer,why people say sorcerer and why people say Nightblade since they have siphon and soulstrike and all.But none really fit the picture I suppose.If you want a chicken to be a duck & a duck to be a chicken...
  • Kagukan
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    Magicka Necromancer
    I guess necro??? The one thing I miss about Rift is playing Warlock. Such a fun class in Rift.
  • Skander
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    max_only wrote: »
    Necro only because it’s too new for them to start nerfing the fun out of it like they did with the other classes. After they’ve sold their quota they’ll nerf it to death just like they did with warden.

    Edit: it’s most like a dnd warlock because it’s actually powerful like a dnd warlock is supposed to be.

    What are you on about. They just made warden from overwhelmingly overpowered to just overpowered
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  • Jolipinator
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    Warden.

    Because war.

    War never changes.
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  • worrallj
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    Magicka Sorcerer
    I really think sorcerer. Particular a sorcerer that goes deep into the summoning tree with some dark magic. The storm calling skill line has always been slightly out of place for the overall sorcerer theme... It's all dark magic stuff and then a random lightning tree.

    Necromancer... Eh yeah pretty warlocky. But no really explicitly Daedric spells which I think is pretty classic warlock and why I pick sorcerer.
  • DocFrost72
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    Gunna seem weird, but stamsorc.

    There's a reason the top two stats are Charisma and Con .
  • Gronk
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    Slaughterfish is the Dev and GM warlock class never defeated
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  • DocFrost72
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    Unij wrote: »
    What is a Warlock?

    A spellcaster whose power comes from a pact with a (typically dark) patron. They might have you kill to collect souls, they might have you hoard knowledge for their great infernal libraries, or they might as you to be kind of a jerk to homeless people.

    Whatever the pact, the patron grants the warlock immense power, and magical aptitude.
  • max_only
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    Magicka Necromancer
    Skander wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    Necro only because it’s too new for them to start nerfing the fun out of it like they did with the other classes. After they’ve sold their quota they’ll nerf it to death just like they did with warden.

    Edit: it’s most like a dnd warlock because it’s actually powerful like a dnd warlock is supposed to be.

    What are you on about. They just made warden from overwhelmingly overpowered to just overpowered

    You must be talking about stam warden cheese that only works in pvp on people who have no self awareness.

    The other 90% of the game, warden is a adequate off-tank and an adequate off-heal. Woop-di-doo.
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  • StormeReigns
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    Magicka Sorc and Necro both hold themes very similar to DnD / AD&D Warlocks.

    If we could duel / sub class you could easily make a cheesed ES warlock.
  • Starlock
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    Tipsy wrote: »
    Voted other..In the end you can pretend one or the other class passes for a warlock.But it isn't the same.

    Yeah, there really isn’t any equivalent. The closest would actually be something like becoming a pure blooded vampire through a direct compact with Molag Bal for instance, but that is an RP thing, not a class thing.
  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    Magicka Sorcerer
    Sorcs literally have a skill called dark deal. The most warlock-y skill name in all of eso.
  • Facefister
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    People talk here like ESO had unique classes.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Magicka Sorcerer
    Frankly, what's most like a D&D Warlock is using the Destruction Staff skill line.
    And in class I might argue for Dragonknight.
    But of your choices I went with sorcerer, over the two death-oriented classes.
    Edited by FrancisCrawford on October 5, 2019 4:19AM
  • Ysbriel
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    Magicka Sorcerer
    Basically Necromancers and Warlocks are a type of Sorcerer.
  • IndianaJames7
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    What's a warlock?
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