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Let classes fulfill their role properly.
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Wifeaggro13✭✭✭✭✭
✭All the people bashing on this guy he does have some valid points. The reality is ZOS class design and role is so watered down its become a gross dependency on just DPS. truthfully the game needed dedicated CC and support. over the course of ZOS post development the game leans far to heavily on DPS .making all other roles very lack luster and less desirable to play due to the DPS focus and meta.the community would not stand for a rewrite of game design now at this point to a class definition .
But the sad fact is the game does need role Definition its so focused on one meta and shifting gear sets around DPS , Combine that with its open world leveling never teaching the community how to build an end game character nor how to play one. it leaves many hitting a wall and quitting creating the churn. ZOS has some great freedom in their design . they just cheaply implemented it so they could hide progression away in a dark vague corner.Edited by Wifeaggro13 on May 9, 2019 6:36PM1 -
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✭✭Shadowasrial wrote: »Enough with the whole every class can play every role. If you want to do that then you shouldn’t have multiple character slots. If you want to run healer then run Templar or warden. If you want damage then run sorc if you want to run a rogue glass cannon then run nightblade. If you want to run a tank then be a dk. At most a class should be able to fulfill 1 of 2 roles. If you want to run a different role then go back to character selection and choose the appropriate class. All of this all classes should be able to do all roles equally is nonsense. What’s the point of a class then? If you need a breakdown of how classic MMO Classes work here you go.
1 rogue type- high burst damage low-medium defense medium sustain
2 tank- low damage high survival great resource sustain
3 healer class- low to medium survival great resource sustain low damage. ( meant to be protected by group to keep group alive)
4 fighter- medium damage medium to high defense medium resource sustain
5 mage dps-high damage low defense high resource sustain.
Those are the classics class roles. And when you play these roles you sacrifice one thing for another. It doesn’t mean that every class should have high defense high dps and high sustain. At the very least we shouldn’t be able to build our toons that way. If I want to build my nb to quickly burst a target down then I shouldn’t be able to survive extended fights or against multiple opponents. The same should be said for tanks and mages tanks shouldn’t be able to dish out damage like a dps does. And mages shouldn’t be able to dish out damage and tank people with shields.
This is how it should be but we'll never see it. Zos cant handle thee way it is. They want every class to be able to do everything. Thats how you end up with stambade at one end and stam sorc at thhe other. And how you end up with broken builds/playstyles. If zos took the time tto really work on balance then the system could work, butt nott as things are.
But you wont get any support here. Most people who comment on this will be role players or pve players who arent effected by pvp, and pvp is where the issues really shine with this stuff.Edited by eso_lags on May 9, 2019 3:23PM1 -
Shadowasrial✭✭✭✭✭
✭It’s a sad truth that classes have become so blurred. Every other single mmo has a working class system. Yes sometimes it’s unbalanced but not to the point that ours is. We need to stop catering to laziness. Yes I main a stamblade and I have adapted to every single nerf thrown at me I’m not complaining about the nerf. I’m complaining that the current state of pvp is everyone being tanky dps toons with excessive healing. And that is greatly killing the pvp side. People should be less afraid of dieing in a game1 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think there shouldn't be classes at all, I think there should be use the open list of skill lines and you pick three of them....... I was shocked when I was making my first toon on ESO.... I couldn't figure out what these classes meant.... this is an Elder Scrolls game..... there are no classes in an elder scrolls game.
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eso_lags✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think there shouldn't be classes at all, I think there should be use the open list of skill lines and you pick three of them....... I was shocked when I was making my first toon on ESO.... I couldn't figure out what these classes meant.... this is an Elder Scrolls game..... there are no classes in an elder scrolls game.
this ^
X10,000
Agreed.. I like these type of class systems but i think it would require different balance completely. So i dont think wee will ever see it. But I played archeage for a while, probably my favorite mmo before it went to ***, and it has a class system like this. Ashes of Creation is supposed too as well whenever it comes out.0 -
Valkysas154✭✭✭✭✭Flameheart wrote: »Shadowasrial wrote: »Enough with the whole every class can play every role. If you want to do that then you shouldn’t have multiple character slots. If you want to run healer then run Templar or warden. If you want damage then run sorc if you want to run a rogue glass cannon then run nightblade. If you want to run a tank then be a dk. At most a class should be able to fulfill 1 of 2 roles. If you want to run a different role then go back to character selection and choose the appropriate class. All of this all classes should be able to do all roles equally is nonsense. What’s the point of a class then? If you need a breakdown of how classic MMO Classes work here you go.
1 rogue type- high burst damage low-medium defense medium sustain
2 tank- low damage high survival great resource sustain
3 healer class- low to medium survival great resource sustain low damage. ( meant to be protected by group to keep group alive)
4 fighter- medium damage medium to high defense medium resource sustain
5 mage dps-high damage low defense high resource sustain.
Those are the classics class roles. And when you play these roles you sacrifice one thing for another. It doesn’t mean that every class should have high defense high dps and high sustain. At the very least we shouldn’t be able to build our toons that way. If I want to build my nb to quickly burst a target down then I shouldn’t be able to survive extended fights or against multiple opponents. The same should be said for tanks and mages tanks shouldn’t be able to dish out damage like a dps does. And mages shouldn’t be able to dish out damage and tank people with shields.
Sorry, nope. The current system is not perfect (actually it has already a trend to be according to your wish when it comes to specific roles in veteran raid environements, see "DK-tank", "Templar-healer"), but much superior in compare to your suggestion, when it comes to versatility and flexibility.
If I want to play "holy-trinity-class-MMOs" I reactivate my Everquest account.
Imho -> no classes at all, just skill lines.
PS: The TO is a pissed NB-player for sure, because he has "shadow" in his name. Btw this conclusion is as generic and boring as your "class-role-suggestion".
Just want to point out i played eq1 from 1999 to 2004 then switched to eq2 for8 years and i never heard any one in game say holy trinity class other than ppl talking about wow
Tank Healer DPS Support 2 version of it crowed control and buffs
Fight mage priest scout - all have 6 classes in them selfs for each one
Then you get into the deference of them such as Troubador buffs magic dps and Dirge melee dps
you also had 6 ppl in groups
This holy trinity never was in eq1 or 2 but was made with wow for casuals since they could not understand all the stuff something like eq would throw at them back then
https://eq2.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Class
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Wifeaggro13✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think there shouldn't be classes at all, I think there should be use the open list of skill lines and you pick three of them....... I was shocked when I was making my first toon on ESO.... I couldn't figure out what these classes meant.... this is an Elder Scrolls game..... there are no classes in an elder scrolls game.
then you have not played ES titles but oblivion and skyrim. there were many classes in the game . the reason their were classes is because the player were so damn baffled on how to make a functioning character in ES it was easier to use a pre set.they cant even get roles correct in this game with a class system do you think it would work with a completely open skill system. Hell as it is there is only one role in PVE for 97 % of the content and that is dps. we dont even have a funtiong hybrid, or support role in ESO.
https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Arena:_Classes
https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Daggerfall:_ClassesEdited by Wifeaggro13 on May 9, 2019 9:29PM0 -
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✭✭The game has four roles, Mag DD, Stam DD, Heal, Tank...no more roles please.
Kinda happy you can play any of those with each class. No changes please. (Well some class skills additions or fixes to fit that would be ace tho)@Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP0 -
Heady✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »That's kind of how it is already.
DK: Tank
Templar: Healer or DPS
Sorc: DPS or Healer
NB: DPS
Warden: Tank or Healer
Necro: Everything
I'd like to see ZOS go back to the drawing board and rework all the classes to be more like necro. The original 4+1 classes already forced you into a specific role. We don't need more of that. We need less of it.
Templar, NB and especially Sorcerer make great tanks. Far superior to DK to boot.
Wot DK will always be better while fire damage is the main thing for mag due to engulfing flames and battle roar0 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭Any class can perform any role, some classes are obviously better at certain roles than others
When you're pushing score aka most dps in the fastest time, there is a meta for every patch, but most people dont like to hear that their stam dk cant be brought for a score run or that their sorc tank cant be brought in
It's just funny how triggered people get when they are told their toon isnt meta0 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Any class can perform any role, some classes are obviously better at certain roles than others
When you're pushing score aka most dps in the fastest time, there is a meta for every patch, but most people dont like to hear that their stam dk cant be brought for a score run or that their sorc tank cant be brought in
It's just funny how triggered people get when they are told their toon isnt meta
Our groups fastest time was with a sorc tank....I think we were 6th on the leaderboards for that week.
Still the best tank on our roster...
Who cares about meta?
Only the hive minded sheep....
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What seems to trigger people more is doing well without the meta...Edited by Kel on May 9, 2019 11:17PM1 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭
6th best? So you werent the best, I never said you can get decent scores, but if you're pushing for number 1, you're gonna need a Dk tank with engulfing or else you're gonna have to bring in a mag dk for engulfing and giving the group minor brutalityAny class can perform any role, some classes are obviously better at certain roles than others
When you're pushing score aka most dps in the fastest time, there is a meta for every patch, but most people dont like to hear that their stam dk cant be brought for a score run or that their sorc tank cant be brought in
It's just funny how triggered people get when they are told their toon isnt meta
Our groups fastest time was with a sorc tank....I think we were 6th on the leaderboards for that week.
Still the best tank on our roster...
Who cares about meta?
Only the hive minded sheep....
🐑
What seems to trigger people more is doing well without the meta...
And if your guild doesnt run, meta that's good for you guys, did you want a cookie? 😂0 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
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6th best? So you werent the best, I never said you can get decent scores, but if you're pushing for number 1, you're gonna need a Dk tank with engulfing or else you're gonna have to bring in a mag dk for engulfing and giving the group minor brutalityAny class can perform any role, some classes are obviously better at certain roles than others
When you're pushing score aka most dps in the fastest time, there is a meta for every patch, but most people dont like to hear that their stam dk cant be brought for a score run or that their sorc tank cant be brought in
It's just funny how triggered people get when they are told their toon isnt meta
Our groups fastest time was with a sorc tank....I think we were 6th on the leaderboards for that week.
Still the best tank on our roster...
Who cares about meta?
Only the hive minded sheep....
🐑
What seems to trigger people more is doing well without the meta...
And if your guild doesnt run, meta that's good for you guys, did you want a cookie? 😂
Who cares about being #1?
Do you get cookies for that?
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Heady✭✭✭✭
6th best? So you werent the best, I never said you can get decent scores, but if you're pushing for number 1, you're gonna need a Dk tank with engulfing or else you're gonna have to bring in a mag dk for engulfing and giving the group minor brutalityAny class can perform any role, some classes are obviously better at certain roles than others
When you're pushing score aka most dps in the fastest time, there is a meta for every patch, but most people dont like to hear that their stam dk cant be brought for a score run or that their sorc tank cant be brought in
It's just funny how triggered people get when they are told their toon isnt meta
Our groups fastest time was with a sorc tank....I think we were 6th on the leaderboards for that week.
Still the best tank on our roster...
Who cares about meta?
Only the hive minded sheep....
🐑
What seems to trigger people more is doing well without the meta...
And if your guild doesnt run, meta that's good for you guys, did you want a cookie? 😂
Who cares about being #1?
Do you get cookies for that?
😂🤣
If you don’t care about rank why even bring it up?0 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭
6th best? So you werent the best, I never said you can get decent scores, but if you're pushing for number 1, you're gonna need a Dk tank with engulfing or else you're gonna have to bring in a mag dk for engulfing and giving the group minor brutalityAny class can perform any role, some classes are obviously better at certain roles than others
When you're pushing score aka most dps in the fastest time, there is a meta for every patch, but most people dont like to hear that their stam dk cant be brought for a score run or that their sorc tank cant be brought in
It's just funny how triggered people get when they are told their toon isnt meta
Our groups fastest time was with a sorc tank....I think we were 6th on the leaderboards for that week.
Still the best tank on our roster...
Who cares about meta?
Only the hive minded sheep....
🐑
What seems to trigger people more is doing well without the meta...
And if your guild doesnt run, meta that's good for you guys, did you want a cookie? 😂
Who cares about being #1?
Do you get cookies for that?
😂🤣
Some groups obviously do, but you wouldnt understand that since you and your group try hard to be so different from the meta and role play in trials
The fact that you brought up being number 6 on the leaderboards shows you care and take pride, so you obviously care about score, you're just worsening your argument, keep exposing yourself
Keep dreaming 😂😂🤣😂Edited by SoLooney on May 9, 2019 11:28PM0 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
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6th best? So you werent the best, I never said you can get decent scores, but if you're pushing for number 1, you're gonna need a Dk tank with engulfing or else you're gonna have to bring in a mag dk for engulfing and giving the group minor brutalityAny class can perform any role, some classes are obviously better at certain roles than others
When you're pushing score aka most dps in the fastest time, there is a meta for every patch, but most people dont like to hear that their stam dk cant be brought for a score run or that their sorc tank cant be brought in
It's just funny how triggered people get when they are told their toon isnt meta
Our groups fastest time was with a sorc tank....I think we were 6th on the leaderboards for that week.
Still the best tank on our roster...
Who cares about meta?
Only the hive minded sheep....
🐑
What seems to trigger people more is doing well without the meta...
And if your guild doesnt run, meta that's good for you guys, did you want a cookie? 😂
Who cares about being #1?
Do you get cookies for that?
😂🤣
If you don’t care about rank why even bring it up?
Just to show meta doesnt have much to do with being a skilled player.
Sure it helps, but it's not the end all be all people try to make it out to be.
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Heady✭✭✭✭
6th best? So you werent the best, I never said you can get decent scores, but if you're pushing for number 1, you're gonna need a Dk tank with engulfing or else you're gonna have to bring in a mag dk for engulfing and giving the group minor brutalityAny class can perform any role, some classes are obviously better at certain roles than others
When you're pushing score aka most dps in the fastest time, there is a meta for every patch, but most people dont like to hear that their stam dk cant be brought for a score run or that their sorc tank cant be brought in
It's just funny how triggered people get when they are told their toon isnt meta
Our groups fastest time was with a sorc tank....I think we were 6th on the leaderboards for that week.
Still the best tank on our roster...
Who cares about meta?
Only the hive minded sheep....
🐑
What seems to trigger people more is doing well without the meta...
And if your guild doesnt run, meta that's good for you guys, did you want a cookie? 😂
Who cares about being #1?
Do you get cookies for that?
😂🤣
If you don’t care about rank why even bring it up?
Just to show meta doesnt have much to do with being a skilled player.
Sure it helps, but it's not the end all be all people try to make it out to be.
Overrated.
It has nothing to do with skill, it has to do with what has a better kit for what they are doing0 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
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6th best? So you werent the best, I never said you can get decent scores, but if you're pushing for number 1, you're gonna need a Dk tank with engulfing or else you're gonna have to bring in a mag dk for engulfing and giving the group minor brutalityAny class can perform any role, some classes are obviously better at certain roles than others
When you're pushing score aka most dps in the fastest time, there is a meta for every patch, but most people dont like to hear that their stam dk cant be brought for a score run or that their sorc tank cant be brought in
It's just funny how triggered people get when they are told their toon isnt meta
Our groups fastest time was with a sorc tank....I think we were 6th on the leaderboards for that week.
Still the best tank on our roster...
Who cares about meta?
Only the hive minded sheep....
🐑
What seems to trigger people more is doing well without the meta...
And if your guild doesnt run, meta that's good for you guys, did you want a cookie? 😂
Who cares about being #1?
Do you get cookies for that?
😂🤣
Some groups obviously do, but you wouldnt understand that since you and your group try hard to be so different from the meta and role play in trials
The fact that you brought up being number 6 on the leaderboards shows you care and take pride, so you obviously care about score, you're just worsening your argument, keep exposing yourself
Keep dreaming 😂😂🤣😂
Eh, we do just fine.
We perform well and we get good scores.
Like I said, what triggers players harder is doing well without meta.
Thank you for proving me right...
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Edit: Never said I wasn't proud, but I am saying sticking to mindless cookie cutter builds isn't as necessary as some would have you believe....Edited by Kel on May 9, 2019 11:36PM0 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭
6th best? So you werent the best, I never said you can get decent scores, but if you're pushing for number 1, you're gonna need a Dk tank with engulfing or else you're gonna have to bring in a mag dk for engulfing and giving the group minor brutalityAny class can perform any role, some classes are obviously better at certain roles than others
When you're pushing score aka most dps in the fastest time, there is a meta for every patch, but most people dont like to hear that their stam dk cant be brought for a score run or that their sorc tank cant be brought in
It's just funny how triggered people get when they are told their toon isnt meta
Our groups fastest time was with a sorc tank....I think we were 6th on the leaderboards for that week.
Still the best tank on our roster...
Who cares about meta?
Only the hive minded sheep....
🐑
What seems to trigger people more is doing well without the meta...
And if your guild doesnt run, meta that's good for you guys, did you want a cookie? 😂
Who cares about being #1?
Do you get cookies for that?
😂🤣
Some groups obviously do, but you wouldnt understand that since you and your group try hard to be so different from the meta and role play in trials
The fact that you brought up being number 6 on the leaderboards shows you care and take pride, so you obviously care about score, you're just worsening your argument, keep exposing yourself
Keep dreaming 😂😂🤣😂
Eh, we do just fine.
We perform well and we get good scores.
Like I said, what triggers players harder is doing well without meta.
Thank you for proving me right...
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I'm not triggered, you're bringing up score and then you say dont care about score. Which one is it? Yikes, learn how to debate
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Kel✭✭✭✭✭
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6th best? So you werent the best, I never said you can get decent scores, but if you're pushing for number 1, you're gonna need a Dk tank with engulfing or else you're gonna have to bring in a mag dk for engulfing and giving the group minor brutalityAny class can perform any role, some classes are obviously better at certain roles than others
When you're pushing score aka most dps in the fastest time, there is a meta for every patch, but most people dont like to hear that their stam dk cant be brought for a score run or that their sorc tank cant be brought in
It's just funny how triggered people get when they are told their toon isnt meta
Our groups fastest time was with a sorc tank....I think we were 6th on the leaderboards for that week.
Still the best tank on our roster...
Who cares about meta?
Only the hive minded sheep....
🐑
What seems to trigger people more is doing well without the meta...
And if your guild doesnt run, meta that's good for you guys, did you want a cookie? 😂
Who cares about being #1?
Do you get cookies for that?
😂🤣
Some groups obviously do, but you wouldnt understand that since you and your group try hard to be so different from the meta and role play in trials
The fact that you brought up being number 6 on the leaderboards shows you care and take pride, so you obviously care about score, you're just worsening your argument, keep exposing yourself
Keep dreaming 😂😂🤣😂
Eh, we do just fine.
We perform well and we get good scores.
Like I said, what triggers players harder is doing well without meta.
Thank you for proving me right...
🍪🍪🍪
I'm not triggered, you're bringing up score and then you say dont care about score. Which one is it? Yikes, learn how to debate
Scores must not be good whatever you're playing you think your scores are good, but have a cookie for trying anyways
K...
Never said I didn't care about score...learn to read. Just said who cares about being #1. Not like you get some award.
I said we do fine without everyone conforming to some meta.
Anyway, nice talking to you?
Looney bin on ps4, by chance?
If so, you definitely don't play meta and never seen you on any leaderboards.Edited by Kel on May 9, 2019 11:41PM0 -
HowlKimchi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shadowasrial wrote: »It’s a sad truth that classes have become so blurred. Every other single mmo has a working class system. Yes sometimes it’s unbalanced but not to the point that ours is. We need to stop catering to laziness. Yes I main a stamblade and I have adapted to every single nerf thrown at me I’m not complaining about the nerf. I’m complaining that the current state of pvp is everyone being tanky dps toons with excessive healing. And that is greatly killing the pvp side. People should be less afraid of dieing in a game
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✭Not gonna happen.
Zos needs to sell necromancer.
Nerf all base class, buff warden a little, make necromancers op as effing can be.
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lokulin✭✭✭✭✭Shadowasrial wrote: »Enough with the whole every class can play every role. If you want to do that then you shouldn’t have multiple character slots. If you want to run healer then run Templar or warden. If you want damage then run sorc if you want to run a rogue glass cannon then run nightblade. If you want to run a tank then be a dk. At most a class should be able to fulfill 1 of 2 roles. If you want to run a different role then go back to character selection and choose the appropriate class. All of this all classes should be able to do all roles equally is nonsense. What’s the point of a class then? If you need a breakdown of how classic MMO Classes work here you go.
1 rogue type- high burst damage low-medium defense medium sustain
2 tank- low damage high survival great resource sustain
3 healer class- low to medium survival great resource sustain low damage. ( meant to be protected by group to keep group alive)
4 fighter- medium damage medium to high defense medium resource sustain
5 mage dps-high damage low defense high resource sustain.
Those are the classics class roles. And when you play these roles you sacrifice one thing for another. It doesn’t mean that every class should have high defense high dps and high sustain. At the very least we shouldn’t be able to build our toons that way. If I want to build my nb to quickly burst a target down then I shouldn’t be able to survive extended fights or against multiple opponents. The same should be said for tanks and mages tanks shouldn’t be able to dish out damage like a dps does. And mages shouldn’t be able to dish out damage and tank people with shields.
Give me account wide achievements and titles and we can go with this idea if you want.
Alternately, it would be a boring world if every game just did exactly the same thing when it came to classes. You've said things shouldn't be a specific way without actually giving any reasons as to why besides "it has always been that way".I've hidden your signature.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Wifeaggro13 wrote: »All the people bashing on this guy he does have some valid points. The reality is ZOS class design and role is so watered down its become a gross dependency on just DPS. truthfully the game needed dedicated CC and support. over the course of ZOS post development the game leans far to heavily on DPS .making all other roles very lack luster and less desirable to play due to the DPS focus and meta.the community would not stand for a rewrite of game design now at this point to a class definition .
But the sad fact is the game does need role Definition its so focused on one meta and shifting gear sets around DPS , Combine that with its open world leveling never teaching the community how to build an end game character nor how to play one. it leaves many hitting a wall and quitting creating the churn. ZOS has some great freedom in their design . they just cheaply implemented it so they could hide progression away in a dark vague corner.
I do not think you understand.
First of all every MMORPG has a meta. Most MMORPGs where you have less choice still have some builds that perform better than others and rotations that need to be followed to increase effectiveness of whatever role one is in. For DPS, have that rotation backwards and you are hitting like a limp noodle.
Even then certain classes do better than others as true balance is never obtained. This is just plain facts in MMORPGs.
So this issue with meta in ESO is very misplaced.
While I understand you have an opinion, but nothing you have said really supports that opinion. It just comes down you would like things to be different than it is and the most of us disagree.
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✭✭✭Shadowasrial wrote: »What’s the point of a class then?
2 tank- low damage high survival great resource sustain
3 healer class- low to medium survival great resource sustain low damage. ( meant to be protected by group to keep group alive)
Have to vote "no" on this one, sorry.
Different classes allow us to have more variety in the game, filling roles (tank, heal, damage) in unique ways.
Class does not equal role. Otherwise we would only have three classes. Plus, you haven't mentioned melee vs. ranged or buffs.
As a healer, you've also specifically lost me with citing tank and healer as the same level of damage (low).
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Shadowasrial wrote: »Enough with the whole every class can play every role. If you want to do that then you shouldn’t have multiple character slots. If you want to run healer then run Templar or warden. If you want damage then run sorc if you want to run a rogue glass cannon then run nightblade. If you want to run a tank then be a dk. At most a class should be able to fulfill 1 of 2 roles. If you want to run a different role then go back to character selection and choose the appropriate class. All of this all classes should be able to do all roles equally is nonsense. What’s the point of a class then? If you need a breakdown of how classic MMO Classes work here you go.
1 rogue type- high burst damage low-medium defense medium sustain
2 tank- low damage high survival great resource sustain
3 healer class- low to medium survival great resource sustain low damage. ( meant to be protected by group to keep group alive)
4 fighter- medium damage medium to high defense medium resource sustain
5 mage dps-high damage low defense high resource sustain.
Those are the classics class roles. And when you play these roles you sacrifice one thing for another. It doesn’t mean that every class should have high defense high dps and high sustain. At the very least we shouldn’t be able to build our toons that way. If I want to build my nb to quickly burst a target down then I shouldn’t be able to survive extended fights or against multiple opponents. The same should be said for tanks and mages tanks shouldn’t be able to dish out damage like a dps does. And mages shouldn’t be able to dish out damage and tank people with shields.
If you feel that way, go playe DCUO.0 -
Asha_11_ESO✭✭✭If you want a 'classic mmo' which fits your (narrow) idea of what classes should be, maybe play a different game. Plenty of people love the flexibility that ESO offers, and play whatever builds they want, not giving a flying crumpet about meta builds.1