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We need more Corn Flower

  • Sanguinor2
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    Time to swap to stamdd I guess^^, stam is stronger anyway
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    I would like to know why the price of spell power pots has ballooned recently.

    I just love putting up the crafting mats for writs at ridiculous prices when a crafting event is on and everyone races their fifteen alts through the writs. ;D
  • gepe87
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    It's very easy to farm corn flower...Just go to under populated zones...Malabar Tor, Greenshade and Eastmarch. It's also very easy to spot CF.
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    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    There is absolutely no way that is true or it's hands down the worst luck ever experienced in this game.

    But even in that instance of the worst rng ever recorded in game, you're talking about ~4 hours work for 1600 potions - That equates to 20h of game time with a pot on CD constantly (not realistic and also doesn't include all the other supplies you have for whatever reason)
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    ZOS isn't going to adjust drop rates on things because of the player-driven economy. If a drop is rarer than they intended it to be (or more common) they'll adjust rates accordingly, but it's very very unlikely they're going to change the drop rate just because people are selling x or y for z amount of gold. I mean look at Potent Nirncrux, those are actually rare and go for 10-12k. Aetherial Dust is worth 100k-ish. There are plenty of rare drops that are worth a lot of gold, it's just how things are.
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    I pretty much only play magicka characters (I have one stamplar I sometimes play). I simply do writs on my characters each day, and from the surveys I've built up a stockpile of over 2k Corn Flower in my craft bag. I don't even think of that when crafting my spell power pots I use.

    Water Hyacinth and/or Namira's Rot are the two that limit my crafting as they don't drop from surveys.
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  • VaranisArano
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    I did agree until I read some of the responses, so now my question is: where do you farm for cornflower? I do most of my farming in Deshaan and very, very rarely come across it. I’ve noticed a decent amount on Bleakrock Isle, but that’s a heavily-farmed zone.

    Anywhere there are flowers. The heavily farmed areas are starter zones (small area, same amount of mats) and Hollow City (just has flowers). You have to pick all the non-water flowers because they respawn from the same pool of spots, so if you ignore the wormwood or whatever, you'll get less new flowers.

    Personally? I don't cherrypick for flowers. I farm a lot when I'm looking for mats to sell - Craglorn, starter zones, Bangkorai, Hew's bane, Summerset, and Wrothgar depending on what other things I needed - and I collect everything. I let alchemy reagents pile up and sold at between 50 to 100. I can't swear to how long that takes me, but it usually several days, farming for at least a couple zone loops each day.

    Farming is a good way to get mats, but it does take time, patience, and effort. The vasr majority of people wanting these pots arent going to put in the time amd effort to farm for cornflower to keet their demand.
    Edited by VaranisArano on May 3, 2019 1:32PM
  • Skwor
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    Skwor wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    Neither, everyone uses them is all, they are overused, pots were not meant to be a constant buff. Simple supply and demand. People need to learn to marshal resources appropriately or be willing to pay for the overuse.

    Regardless just becuase something becomes scarcer in the game and the price goes up means something is broke. The game has to have some effort, geesh.

    LOL the average price of Spell Power pots has gone from around 120 a few weeks ago to 180 at best. That's an increase of 50%! There's obviously a supply problem going on here. ZOS needs to increase the drops of the ingredient mats so prices can decrease to something reasonable.

    The prices are very reasonable. Last I checked there is no standard that states what anything should be priced at in ESO. We have an active dynamic trading system. Reasonable is defined by the market, the market demand went up ergo the price went up.

    ZOS did not change the drop rate the players changed thier usage rate. This is how it is supposed to work in a market economy so I state again, the prices are reasonable nothing needs to change.
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    Skwor wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    Neither, everyone uses them is all, they are overused, pots were not meant to be a constant buff. Simple supply and demand. People need to learn to marshal resources appropriately or be willing to pay for the overuse.

    Regardless just becuase something becomes scarcer in the game and the price goes up means something is broke. The game has to have some effort, geesh.

    LOL the average price of Spell Power pots has gone from around 120 a few weeks ago to 180 at best. That's an increase of 50%! There's obviously a supply problem going on here. ZOS needs to increase the drops of the ingredient mats so prices can decrease to something reasonable.

    The prices are very reasonable. Last I checked there is no standard that states what anything should be priced at in ESO. We have an active dynamic trading system. Reasonable is defined by the market, the market demand went up ergo the price went up.

    ZOS did not change the drop rate the players changed thier usage rate. This is how it is supposed to work in a market economy so I state again, the prices are reasonable nothing needs to change.

    Exactly, this isn't the real world where weather can play a role in the supply of a material. Apples are going to be really expensive where I live this year. We had a late, late frost after the apple blossoms had come, killing off a lot of them... Supply is consistent in ESO, demand changed. No adjustment needed.
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  • BNOC
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    Skwor wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    Neither, everyone uses them is all, they are overused, pots were not meant to be a constant buff. Simple supply and demand. People need to learn to marshal resources appropriately or be willing to pay for the overuse.

    Regardless just becuase something becomes scarcer in the game and the price goes up means something is broke. The game has to have some effort, geesh.

    LOL the average price of Spell Power pots has gone from around 120 a few weeks ago to 180 at best. That's an increase of 50%! There's obviously a supply problem going on here. ZOS needs to increase the drops of the ingredient mats so prices can decrease to something reasonable.

    The prices are very reasonable. Last I checked there is no standard that states what anything should be priced at in ESO. We have an active dynamic trading system. Reasonable is defined by the market, the market demand went up ergo the price went up.

    ZOS did not change the drop rate the players changed thier usage rate. This is how it is supposed to work in a market economy so I state again, the prices are reasonable nothing needs to change.

    This is true, though I will be interested in the state of IC farming, which undoubtedly provides the largest supply of all plants, post-Elsweyr.

    It has the potential to make a significant impact on prices in my opinion.
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    BNOC wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    Neither, everyone uses them is all, they are overused, pots were not meant to be a constant buff. Simple supply and demand. People need to learn to marshal resources appropriately or be willing to pay for the overuse.

    Regardless just becuase something becomes scarcer in the game and the price goes up means something is broke. The game has to have some effort, geesh.

    LOL the average price of Spell Power pots has gone from around 120 a few weeks ago to 180 at best. That's an increase of 50%! There's obviously a supply problem going on here. ZOS needs to increase the drops of the ingredient mats so prices can decrease to something reasonable.

    The prices are very reasonable. Last I checked there is no standard that states what anything should be priced at in ESO. We have an active dynamic trading system. Reasonable is defined by the market, the market demand went up ergo the price went up.

    ZOS did not change the drop rate the players changed thier usage rate. This is how it is supposed to work in a market economy so I state again, the prices are reasonable nothing needs to change.

    This is true, though I will be interested in the state of IC farming, which undoubtedly provides the largest supply of all plants, post-Elsweyr.

    It has the potential to make a significant impact on prices in my opinion.

    I would bet people get more flowers from Alchemy surveys than they do farming tel-var. I spent a lot of time in the sewers to get my scamp killing achievement done... didn't see a soul.
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  • Juhasow
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    BNOC wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    Neither, everyone uses them is all, they are overused, pots were not meant to be a constant buff. Simple supply and demand. People need to learn to marshal resources appropriately or be willing to pay for the overuse.

    Regardless just becuase something becomes scarcer in the game and the price goes up means something is broke. The game has to have some effort, geesh.

    LOL the average price of Spell Power pots has gone from around 120 a few weeks ago to 180 at best. That's an increase of 50%! There's obviously a supply problem going on here. ZOS needs to increase the drops of the ingredient mats so prices can decrease to something reasonable.

    The prices are very reasonable. Last I checked there is no standard that states what anything should be priced at in ESO. We have an active dynamic trading system. Reasonable is defined by the market, the market demand went up ergo the price went up.

    ZOS did not change the drop rate the players changed thier usage rate. This is how it is supposed to work in a market economy so I state again, the prices are reasonable nothing needs to change.

    This is true, though I will be interested in the state of IC farming, which undoubtedly provides the largest supply of all plants, post-Elsweyr.

    It has the potential to make a significant impact on prices in my opinion.

    I would bet people get more flowers from Alchemy surveys than they do farming tel-var. I spent a lot of time in the sewers to get my scamp killing achievement done... didn't see a soul.

    Because real farming happens in Imperial City districts not in its sewers.
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    BNOC wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    Neither, everyone uses them is all, they are overused, pots were not meant to be a constant buff. Simple supply and demand. People need to learn to marshal resources appropriately or be willing to pay for the overuse.

    Regardless just becuase something becomes scarcer in the game and the price goes up means something is broke. The game has to have some effort, geesh.

    LOL the average price of Spell Power pots has gone from around 120 a few weeks ago to 180 at best. That's an increase of 50%! There's obviously a supply problem going on here. ZOS needs to increase the drops of the ingredient mats so prices can decrease to something reasonable.

    The prices are very reasonable. Last I checked there is no standard that states what anything should be priced at in ESO. We have an active dynamic trading system. Reasonable is defined by the market, the market demand went up ergo the price went up.

    ZOS did not change the drop rate the players changed thier usage rate. This is how it is supposed to work in a market economy so I state again, the prices are reasonable nothing needs to change.

    This is true, though I will be interested in the state of IC farming, which undoubtedly provides the largest supply of all plants, post-Elsweyr.

    It has the potential to make a significant impact on prices in my opinion.

    It'll definietly get way worse. First amount of Imperial City instances will be cut in half from 4 to 2 and then fact it'll be separate campaign will make it more crowded which will lower effectiveness of farm by a lot.
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    Edaphon wrote: »
    Farm more?

    I prefer doing surveys. Even though the Alchemist ones don't even guarantee they'll have Corn Flower, it's still faster and more guaranteed than grindey farming. Surveys are the hidden jewel of doing daily crafting writs.

    Not necessarily true.

    Once you arrive at the survey area you see which plants are available. If you see there's no Corn Flower don't pick anything up & move far enough away until it resets. When you return to the survey area the flowers should have changed.

    You can repeat this process until three nodes of corn flower(the most I've found per survey) appear. However if like me you save your surveys up until you have multiples of each zone this approach will take an age, so best leave that one with RNGesus. If you only have 4/5 surveys however I'd highly recommend it as you get way more bang for your buck.
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    pod88kk wrote: »
    Edaphon wrote: »
    Farm more?

    I prefer doing surveys. Even though the Alchemist ones don't even guarantee they'll have Corn Flower, it's still faster and more guaranteed than grindey farming. Surveys are the hidden jewel of doing daily crafting writs.

    Not necessarily true.

    Once you arrive at the survey area you see which plants are available. If you see there's no Corn Flower don't pick anything up & move far enough away until it resets. When you return to the survey area the flowers should have changed.

    You can repeat this process until three nodes of corn flower(the most I've found per survey) appear. However if like me you save your surveys up until you have multiples of each zone this approach will take an age, so best leave that one with RNGesus. If you only have 4/5 surveys however I'd highly recommend it as you get way more bang for your buck.

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    Edit :- Also if you have the passive in the CP tree(cant remember its name) that can produce 12 cornflower per node.
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    pod88kk wrote: »
    Edaphon wrote: »
    Farm more?

    I prefer doing surveys. Even though the Alchemist ones don't even guarantee they'll have Corn Flower, it's still faster and more guaranteed than grindey farming. Surveys are the hidden jewel of doing daily crafting writs.

    Not necessarily true.

    Once you arrive at the survey area you see which plants are available. If you see there's no Corn Flower don't pick anything up & move far enough away until it resets. When you return to the survey area the flowers should have changed.

    You can repeat this process until three nodes of corn flower(the most I've found per survey) appear. However if like me you save your surveys up until you have multiples of each zone this approach will take an age, so best leave that one with RNGesus. If you only have 4/5 surveys however I'd highly recommend it as you get way more bang for your buck.

    Thank you for this tip. I did not know this!
    Edited by Thrasher91604 on May 4, 2019 6:26PM
  • JumpmanLane
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    Sanguinor2 wrote: »
    Time to swap to stamdd I guess^^, stam is stronger anyway

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  • pod88kk
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    pod88kk wrote: »
    Edaphon wrote: »
    Farm more?

    I prefer doing surveys. Even though the Alchemist ones don't even guarantee they'll have Corn Flower, it's still faster and more guaranteed than grindey farming. Surveys are the hidden jewel of doing daily crafting writs.

    Not necessarily true.

    Once you arrive at the survey area you see which plants are available. If you see there's no Corn Flower don't pick anything up & move far enough away until it resets. When you return to the survey area the flowers should have changed.

    You can repeat this process until three nodes of corn flower(the most I've found per survey) appear. However if like me you save your surveys up until you have multiples of each zone this approach will take an age, so best leave that one with RNGesus. If you only have 4/5 surveys however I'd highly recommend it as you get way more bang for your buck.

    Thank you for this tip. I did not know this!

    I only found it out from a guildie quite recently
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    Looks like they listened and "Raised" the drop rates on cornflower.
    Edited by BrianLovesLisa on May 5, 2019 8:25PM
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    Neither, everyone uses them is all, they are overused, pots were not meant to be a constant buff. Simple supply and demand. People need to learn to marshal resources appropriately or be willing to pay for the overuse.

    Regardless just becuase something becomes scarcer in the game and the price goes up means something is broke. The game has to have some effort, geesh.

    LOL the average price of Spell Power pots has gone from around 120 a few weeks ago to 180 at best. That's an increase of 50%! There's obviously a supply problem going on here. ZOS needs to increase the drops of the ingredient mats so prices can decrease to something reasonable.

    The prices are very reasonable. Last I checked there is no standard that states what anything should be priced at in ESO. We have an active dynamic trading system. Reasonable is defined by the market, the market demand went up ergo the price went up.

    ZOS did not change the drop rate the players changed thier usage rate. This is how it is supposed to work in a market economy so I state again, the prices are reasonable nothing needs to change.

    Exactly, this isn't the real world where weather can play a role in the supply of a material. Apples are going to be really expensive where I live this year. We had a late, late frost after the apple blossoms had come, killing off a lot of them... Supply is consistent in ESO, demand changed. No adjustment needed.

    Did you even read what you wrote? The supply needs to be increased precisely BECAUSE demand went up! This isn't just about people like me who are mad at having to pay more... There are actually players who are being priced out of the market, and that's just wrong. This is exactly the kind of imbalance that can cause the game to become pay-to-win, and who wants that? Chinese gold farmers?
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  • BrianLovesLisa
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    Neither, everyone uses them is all, they are overused, pots were not meant to be a constant buff. Simple supply and demand. People need to learn to marshal resources appropriately or be willing to pay for the overuse.

    Regardless just becuase something becomes scarcer in the game and the price goes up means something is broke. The game has to have some effort, geesh.

    LOL the average price of Spell Power pots has gone from around 120 a few weeks ago to 180 at best. That's an increase of 50%! There's obviously a supply problem going on here. ZOS needs to increase the drops of the ingredient mats so prices can decrease to something reasonable.

    The prices are very reasonable. Last I checked there is no standard that states what anything should be priced at in ESO. We have an active dynamic trading system. Reasonable is defined by the market, the market demand went up ergo the price went up.

    ZOS did not change the drop rate the players changed thier usage rate. This is how it is supposed to work in a market economy so I state again, the prices are reasonable nothing needs to change.

    Exactly, this isn't the real world where weather can play a role in the supply of a material. Apples are going to be really expensive where I live this year. We had a late, late frost after the apple blossoms had come, killing off a lot of them... Supply is consistent in ESO, demand changed. No adjustment needed.

    Did you even read what you wrote? The supply needs to be increased precisely BECAUSE demand went up! This isn't just about people like me who are mad at having to pay more... There are actually players who are being priced out of the market, and that's just wrong. This is exactly the kind of imbalance that can cause the game to become pay-to-win, and who wants that? Chinese gold farmers?

    No one gets "priced out of the market" Unless they refuse to sell at the current value, also the SUPPLY will increase, when OTHER/MORE start selling it.
  • Zedrian
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    BNOC wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    There is absolutely no way that is true or it's hands down the worst luck ever experienced in this game.

    But even in that instance of the worst rng ever recorded in game, you're talking about ~4 hours work for 1600 potions - That equates to 20h of game time with a pot on CD constantly (not realistic and also doesn't include all the other supplies you have for whatever reason)

    How do you get 600k tel var in 4 hours? We were a group of 3 friends in need of cornflower, and spent about 2 hours to farm roughly 50k Tel Vars... we often had to wait for bosses to respawn as we were not alone in the IC.
    Spent 50k Tel var in the apothecary satchels only, got 20 Cornflower. Worth it?
    Edited by Zedrian on May 6, 2019 7:56AM
  • BrianLovesLisa
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    Zedrian wrote: »
    BNOC wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    There is absolutely no way that is true or it's hands down the worst luck ever experienced in this game.

    But even in that instance of the worst rng ever recorded in game, you're talking about ~4 hours work for 1600 potions - That equates to 20h of game time with a pot on CD constantly (not realistic and also doesn't include all the other supplies you have for whatever reason)

    How do you get 600k tel var in 4 hours? We were a group of 3 friends in need of cornflower, and spent about 2 hours to farm roughly 50k Tel Vars... we often had to wait for bosses to respawn as we were not alone in the IC.
    Spent 50k Tel var in the apothecary satchels only, got 20 Cornflower. Worth it?

    Yup worth it because PVP is not farming sorry enjoy your RNG or farm for the mat in the open.
  • barney2525
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    I run around Kenarthi's Roost. Also lots of chests around the temple area.


  • Skwor
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    Neither, everyone uses them is all, they are overused, pots were not meant to be a constant buff. Simple supply and demand. People need to learn to marshal resources appropriately or be willing to pay for the overuse.

    Regardless just becuase something becomes scarcer in the game and the price goes up means something is broke. The game has to have some effort, geesh.

    LOL the average price of Spell Power pots has gone from around 120 a few weeks ago to 180 at best. That's an increase of 50%! There's obviously a supply problem going on here. ZOS needs to increase the drops of the ingredient mats so prices can decrease to something reasonable.

    The prices are very reasonable. Last I checked there is no standard that states what anything should be priced at in ESO. We have an active dynamic trading system. Reasonable is defined by the market, the market demand went up ergo the price went up.

    ZOS did not change the drop rate the players changed thier usage rate. This is how it is supposed to work in a market economy so I state again, the prices are reasonable nothing needs to change.

    Exactly, this isn't the real world where weather can play a role in the supply of a material. Apples are going to be really expensive where I live this year. We had a late, late frost after the apple blossoms had come, killing off a lot of them... Supply is consistent in ESO, demand changed. No adjustment needed.

    Did you even read what you wrote? The supply needs to be increased precisely BECAUSE demand went up! This isn't just about people like me who are mad at having to pay more... There are actually players who are being priced out of the market, and that's just wrong. This is exactly the kind of imbalance that can cause the game to become pay-to-win, and who wants that? Chinese gold farmers?

    BS cornflower is everywhere just go pick it.

    By your logic ZOS should make end game gear drop from overland trash, after all everyone wants that also but there is not enough of it in game for all, per your line of reasoning.
  • tmbrinks
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    There isn't a shortage of corn flower. I don't see your point. If you need it, then I would suggest trading some telvar stones for apothecary parcels.

    I've spent 600k tel var for 400 of em.

    The Spell Power Pots are 140-200 a pop now. Corn Flower, the most expensive ingredient was selling from 280-350 before patch and now sell for 400-600. Either supply is low or someone is buying em to inflate the price.

    Neither, everyone uses them is all, they are overused, pots were not meant to be a constant buff. Simple supply and demand. People need to learn to marshal resources appropriately or be willing to pay for the overuse.

    Regardless just becuase something becomes scarcer in the game and the price goes up means something is broke. The game has to have some effort, geesh.

    LOL the average price of Spell Power pots has gone from around 120 a few weeks ago to 180 at best. That's an increase of 50%! There's obviously a supply problem going on here. ZOS needs to increase the drops of the ingredient mats so prices can decrease to something reasonable.

    The prices are very reasonable. Last I checked there is no standard that states what anything should be priced at in ESO. We have an active dynamic trading system. Reasonable is defined by the market, the market demand went up ergo the price went up.

    ZOS did not change the drop rate the players changed thier usage rate. This is how it is supposed to work in a market economy so I state again, the prices are reasonable nothing needs to change.

    Exactly, this isn't the real world where weather can play a role in the supply of a material. Apples are going to be really expensive where I live this year. We had a late, late frost after the apple blossoms had come, killing off a lot of them... Supply is consistent in ESO, demand changed. No adjustment needed.

    Did you even read what you wrote? The supply needs to be increased precisely BECAUSE demand went up! This isn't just about people like me who are mad at having to pay more... There are actually players who are being priced out of the market, and that's just wrong. This is exactly the kind of imbalance that can cause the game to become pay-to-win, and who wants that? Chinese gold farmers?

    Who is being "priced" out of the market? There is an unlimited supply of the material in the game, you just have to do something for it. So, go farm tel-var, or run around on Bleakrock, or do alchemy writs for the surveys/drops, all of those things cost you NOTHING, except for time (Okay, Alchemy costs you a little). I've gotten 36 corn flower from one survey before. If you don't have the time to do it, you can pay for it.. and yes, prices have gone up. So you need to determine where you fall on the Time-Cost spectrum, when does it become better for YOU to farm versus buy?

    And this is definitely NOT pay-to-win... there's no real money involved... why do people throw that term out so frequently now?
    Edited by tmbrinks on May 6, 2019 1:13PM
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  • msalvia
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    Maybe we just need fewer mag toons running around?
  • phantasmalD
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    Imo what we really need is a new Restore Magicka ingredient with a different good secondary effect.
    Edaphon wrote: »
    Farm more?

    I prefer doing surveys. Even though the Alchemist ones don't even guarantee they'll have Corn Flower, it's still faster and more guaranteed than grindey farming. Surveys are the hidden jewel of doing daily crafting writs.

    The hidden secret to alchemy surveys is that you can reroll them ;)
    As long as the survey is in your inventory you can keep riding away and back to respawn the nodes.
    For most of them (like woodworking survey) it doesn't do anything but it's very relevant for Alchemy surveys as you can potentially turn those Mountain Flowers into Lady's Smock. If you are patient enough then every survey is 6xCorn Flowers.
    Just keep in mind that the survey is removed the moment you interact with any of the nodes.
  • rotaugen454
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    The effect of this thread on me is to make me stop and grab each one I see while traveling, even if in a hurry.
    "Get off my lawn!"
  • caperon
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    Ok, we don't need more Corn Flowers. Playing stamina on Sunspire.
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