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No Cost Piercing Mark (Worst Idea Ever)
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One of the Stupidest ideas ever. After the news broke loose tons of stamblades on Live started using it even with the Magicka cost and it's bloody terrible. Now stamblades can negate your cloak but they can also cloak too since it costs nothing!
Flawless Conqueror ~ Grand Overlord
She/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info
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Kaysha✭✭✭✭Can we now please have:
Swallow soul reduces the cost to dodge roll to zero while slotted.
Would only be fair.10 -
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✭The same zergling that was gonna Slot and spam Mark is still gonna spam mark. Big deal10 -
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✭To be honest I'm kinda happy for this change. I've always disliked cloak and how NB is balanced around it. Imo invisibility shouldn't be attached to a main skill but should have been attached to an ultimate. Too many NB's out there solely rely on cloak and just cloakcloakcloakcloakcloak once you get within 10m of them and they wait for you to engage someone else before attacking you again. Even while using counters (such as det pots) it's pretty damn unfun to play against still.Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.14 -
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✭Wow I really like the idea of cloak being an ultimate so its not used as such a crutch. They should just rework both morphs of cloak into something useful and make a new cloak ulti that costs 70 and cloaks all allies within 5 meters.
NB main here btw.Edited by MentalxHammer on April 30, 2019 8:23PM2 -
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✭✭✭One of the Stupidest ideas ever. After the news broke loose tons of stamblades on Live started using it even with the Magicka cost and it's bloody terrible. Now stamblades can negate your cloak but they can also cloak too since it costs nothing!
If you have cloak, you have access to Mark, meaning you are equally equip to cancel their cloak. How is this a problem?Argonian forever9 -
nsmurfer✭✭✭✭✭They need to make the other morph of mark atractive so NBs have a reason to choose Reapers mark over the revealing Piercing mark0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MentalxHammer wrote: »Wow I really like the idea of cloak being an ultimate so its not used as such a crutch. They should just rework both morphs of cloak into something useful and make a new cloak ulti that costs 70 and cloaks all allies within 5 meters.
NB main here btw.
that would completely destroy the nightblade stealth class.
thats like asking for the removal of healing for templars.
and the tanking for dragonights
and the removal of shields for sorcs.
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✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »One of the Stupidest ideas ever. After the news broke loose tons of stamblades on Live started using it even with the Magicka cost and it's bloody terrible. Now stamblades can negate your cloak but they can also cloak too since it costs nothing!
If you have cloak, you have access to Mark, meaning you are equally equip to cancel their cloak. How is this a problem?
Cuz I'm not a zergling who can afford to put it on their barFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info4 -
NinchiTV✭✭✭✭✭thats actually a big buff to damage, they'll have -5k spell/phys resist so the nerf to surprise didnt even impact it. And it only pierces cloak for 3 secs (i think) so if you can LoS in 2 secs and cloak youre good. NB is looking good for that solo life
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Bazeric✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »And people will still cry about cloak. Mark my words.
Nice pun.Looking for broken things in hopes they may be fixed. I've given up, my game literally works differently from yours.
64M+ AP across 9 toons... kinda makes me a GO7 -
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✭✭✭Cloak has no business in any MMO.
The sooner this concept sinks in the better.Edited by usmcjdking on April 30, 2019 10:32PM0331
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✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »One of the Stupidest ideas ever. After the news broke loose tons of stamblades on Live started using it even with the Magicka cost and it's bloody terrible. Now stamblades can negate your cloak but they can also cloak too since it costs nothing!
If you have cloak, you have access to Mark, meaning you are equally equip to cancel their cloak. How is this a problem?
Cuz I'm not a zergling who can afford to put it on their bar
Yes, a zerg full of Shalks, Curses, Hurricanes, Spin2win, etc is totally not going to find you. It's Mark Target and it 0 damage that'll show up on my death recap as the sole reason as to why I died. Honestly, if you're bringing up zerglings, this isn't even about Mark Target at all. "Organized" Zergs were using Mark already, they had Magblades just for that since that's all Magblade is good for in PvP atm. Making it free means NOTHING in the grand scheme of things since, its already there, it's nothing new and trying to spin this as something that horribly OP when in fact it's fairly balanced considering only the Targetting NB can see you, is hardly as OP as you are attempting to make it out to be.Argonian forever3 -
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✭DocFrost72 wrote: »And people will still cry about cloak. Mark my words.
That's b/c not everybody is a Nightblade and thus does not have a real counter against cloak.
It is ironic, that the class that relies on cloak is also the only class that has a counter to cloak. And NBs religiously refuse to use it as to not to reveal a fellow nightblade!
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✭✭✭✭✭usmcjdking wrote: »Cloak has no business in any MMO.
The sooner this concept sinks in the better.
they are in every single mmo i have ever played for the last 17 years.
Edited by Gilvoth on April 30, 2019 11:12PM13 -
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✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »And people will still cry about cloak. Mark my words.
That's b/c not everybody is a Nightblade and thus does not have a real counter against cloak.
It is ironic, that the class that relies on cloak is also the only class that has a counter to cloak. And NBs religiously refuse to use it as to not to reveal a fellow nightblade!
F that. I will mark you everyday of the week because I come to PvP to fight, not play Hide and Seek.Argonian forever4 -
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✭MentalxHammer wrote: »Wow I really like the idea of cloak being an ultimate so its not used as such a crutch. They should just rework both morphs of cloak into something useful and make a new cloak ulti that costs 70 and cloaks all allies within 5 meters.
NB main here btw.
that would completely destroy the nightblade stealth class.
thats like asking for the removal of healing for templars.
and the tanking for dragonights
and the removal of shields for sorcs.
and make them all only ults instead of class skills
Is this a nerf sorc thread?2 -
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✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »And people will still cry about cloak. Mark my words.
That's b/c not everybody is a Nightblade and thus does not have a real counter against cloak.
It is ironic, that the class that relies on cloak is also the only class that has a counter to cloak. And NBs religiously refuse to use it as to not to reveal a fellow nightblade!
Every AoE in the game is a counter to Cloak, what are you running that you have absolutely no AoE available to you11 -
Heimpai✭✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »And people will still cry about cloak. Mark my words.
That's b/c not everybody is a Nightblade and thus does not have a real counter against cloak.
It is ironic, that the class that relies on cloak is also the only class that has a counter to cloak. And NBs religiously refuse to use it as to not to reveal a fellow nightblade!
Same reason why others refuse to use a slot for cloak counters, i don’t have room and it’s unreliable1 -
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✭✭✭usmcjdking wrote: »Cloak has no business in any MMO.
The sooner this concept sinks in the better.
they are in every single mmo i have ever played for the last 17 years.
And it's been miserably broken is every single MMO I've ever played except EVE online.0331
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Thanatos_inside✭✭✭And how mag nb should live now? Snipe and mark spam coming.. Bad change for mark.
Also for my build i dont even have slot for mark, dont make use useless skills zos.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This is going to empower the zerg. There will be stamblades in every faction stack that do nothing productive other than spam mark. It will be trivial to keep Nightblades locked out of cloak in outnumbered situations.
As I said before, this looks like an nb buff, but it's actually a major nerf.Edited by zyk on May 1, 2019 8:29AM4 -
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✭DocFrost72 wrote: »And people will still cry about cloak. Mark my words.
That's b/c not everybody is a Nightblade and thus does not have a real counter against cloak.
It is ironic, that the class that relies on cloak is also the only class that has a counter to cloak. And NBs religiously refuse to use it as to not to reveal a fellow nightblade!
Every AoE in the game is a counter to Cloak, what are you running that you have absolutely no AoE available to you
A very weak counter at best!
Given the speed at which NBs can travel, the time it takes to realize the NB cloaked, the time to switch tot he AoE ability, and the area the AoE ability covers, they are a very weak counter. Sure there is the spin2win bunch and caltrops, but that's all stamina and mostly even just NBs too.
Only NBs having a real counter to cloak is akin to only sorcs having gap closers to counter the pre-nerf streak. Pretty ridiculous right? Everybody else would still have sprint to counter streak, but it would be a pretty bad counter - just like most AoEs are for cloak.2 -
killingspreeb16_ESO✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »And people will still cry about cloak. Mark my words.
That's b/c not everybody is a Nightblade and thus does not have a real counter against cloak.
It is ironic, that the class that relies on cloak is also the only class that has a counter to cloak. And NBs religiously refuse to use it as to not to reveal a fellow nightblade!
Every AoE in the game is a counter to Cloak, what are you running that you have absolutely no AoE available to you
A very weak counter at best!
Given the speed at which NBs can travel, the time it takes to realize the NB cloaked, the time to switch tot he AoE ability, and the area the AoE ability covers, they are a very weak counter. Sure there is the spin2win bunch and caltrops, but that's all stamina and mostly even just NBs too.
Only NBs having a real counter to cloak is akin to only sorcs having gap closers to counter the pre-nerf streak. Pretty ridiculous right? Everybody else would still have sprint to counter streak, but it would be a pretty bad counter - just like most AoEs are for cloak.
ye clearly you don't know what are you talking about.
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Pretty sure almost all nbs were happy when zos nerfed shields to the ground with 1s cast time. So yeah how about you get the same treatment for a change?
and the removal of shields for sorcs.MentalxHammer wrote: »Wow I really like the idea of cloak being an ultimate so its not used as such a crutch. They should just rework both morphs of cloak into something useful and make a new cloak ulti that costs 70 and cloaks all allies within 5 meters.
NB main here btw.
It cannot be seen, cannot be felt,
Cannot be heard, cannot be smelt,
It lies behind stars and under hills,
And empty holes it fills,
It comes first and follows after,
Ends life, kills laughter.5
