OK, can we ban combat pets from BGs please ?

Neoealth

You want to ban a whole class build just because you have a bad internet connection? Haha..no.

karekiz

Want to know the EASIEST fix?

Only solo/duo que.

Fix pre-made issues and reduce pet spam. You could even remake it into a 6v6 or 8v8 option to reduce even further.

StormeReigns

Inevitable Detonation. Does wonders. Pets may survive, but their owners rarely do.

Jabbs_Giggity

mocap wrote: »

I wonder what it looks like to fight againts 4 pet sorcs, all with 3 pets + Atro, so you kinda fight against 16-20 enemies xd

Seen it in organized BG's. It is literally the most frustrating thing I have ever done. Even worse, the opposing 3rd team was all WW using the WW Pet Ult....We ended up just standing back watching the WW duke it out with the Pet Sorcs.

Katlefiya

Aurielle wrote: »

You seriously expect me to kill up to sixteen pets before I start working on the players hiding behind those pets? The most efficient way to deal with pet builds is to take out the player controlling the pets, which is very difficult to do in this game, thanks to the way targeting works. Kill one pet, and they summon another.

No, I don't expect you to kill a whole team of pet sorcs ON YOU OWN. Are you seriously complaining that you can't single-handedly deal with four enemy players.

I think you missed the part where I carried my team to near victory.

Maybe find better team mates?

DocDova

Neoealth wrote: »

You want to ban a whole class build just because you have a bad internet connection? Haha..no.

On a second thought, banning dozen or so players and disbanding a guild right away might solve not just this but many other issues (which I would otherwise bring up), and things might go back to as friendly, cheerful and cardinal as they were in mid February.

max_only

No. What? How can someone know you have bad lag and set out to have multiple pets premeditated purely for that reason? I don’t even use pets in pvp and this sounds ridiculous. People aren’t overloading on pets just to lag you out.

FleetwoodSmack

Let's just ban the forums. Salty threads are giving us lag.

AuraNebula

No. That's pet discrimination.

Neoealth

max_only wrote: »

No. What? How can someone know you have bad lag and set out to have multiple pets premeditated purely for that reason? I don’t even use pets in pvp and this sounds ridiculous. People aren’t overloading on pets just to lag you out.

You forgot to put your tin foil hat on, the pet lag conspiracy is real! They want to lag out people with bad internet packages.

Aurielle

Katlefiya wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

You seriously expect me to kill up to sixteen pets before I start working on the players hiding behind those pets? The most efficient way to deal with pet builds is to take out the player controlling the pets, which is very difficult to do in this game, thanks to the way targeting works. Kill one pet, and they summon another.

No, I don't expect you to kill a whole team of pet sorcs ON YOU OWN. Are you seriously complaining that you can't single-handedly deal with four enemy players.

I think you missed the part where I carried my team to near victory.

Maybe find better team mates?

I’m complaining that in order to hit even ONE player in a tightly packed pet premade, I have to try to target them through up to sixteen pets. How do you not see that stacking a pet zerg in a small area designed for 4v4v4 game play is a problem?

When I queue with friends, my on average 6-10 minutes solo queue becomes a 20-30 minute queue. I’ll stay solo queued and continue trying to coordinate with randoms, thanks.

Lumenn

If legitimate combat styles(pet class) is causing lag how on earth do you handle zoning into a popular wayshrine where it seems hundreds gather to duel and hang out all evening?

Canned_Apples

100s? Gurl, please.

I see 5 or so dueling on daily basis and there's usually only one pet sorc.

Combat lag =/= roaming around the city lag

FlopsyPrince

DocDova wrote: »

is lag caused by pets to other players also legitimate part of combat mechanics ? I don't assume, I know.

You know? How is that? Do you have a mind reading machine, one that works across the network?

I guess I am playing my pet sorc with both pets just to cause lag in your PvP games, even though I don't PvP. I am so glad that you know my motivation. It certainly couldn't be that I like playing a pet sorc, could it? My mere existence is meant to slow down the PvP you worship....

jainiadral

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DocDova wrote: »

Neoealth wrote: »

You want to ban a whole class build just because you have a bad internet connection? Haha..no.

On a second thought, banning dozen or so players and disbanding a guild right away might solve not just this but many other issues (which I would otherwise bring up), and things might go back to as friendly, cheerful and cardinal as they were in mid February.

So you'd ruin the game for six megaservers of players because of a personal vendetta? Wow.

OTOH, your responses in the thread are starting to make sense now in a weird way

DocDova

jainiadral wrote: »

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DocDova wrote: »

Neoealth wrote: »

You want to ban a whole class build just because you have a bad internet connection? Haha..no.

On a second thought, banning dozen or so players and disbanding a guild right away might solve not just this but many other issues (which I would otherwise bring up), and things might go back to as friendly, cheerful and cardinal as they were in mid February.

So you'd ruin the game for six megaservers of players because of a personal vendetta? Wow.

OTOH, your responses in the thread are starting to make sense now in a weird way

And good morning to you too. Have you considered that previously I use to look over almost anything and now due to passive aggressiveness for no fault of mine, I can't.

So I would bring on issues and all of them would be legit issues, which I otherwise would not because I was too friendly.

So here we are, talking about pet sorc problem.

jainiadral

DocDova wrote: »

jainiadral wrote: »

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DocDova wrote: »

Neoealth wrote: »

You want to ban a whole class build just because you have a bad internet connection? Haha..no.

On a second thought, banning dozen or so players and disbanding a guild right away might solve not just this but many other issues (which I would otherwise bring up), and things might go back to as friendly, cheerful and cardinal as they were in mid February.

So you'd ruin the game for six megaservers of players because of a personal vendetta? Wow.

OTOH, your responses in the thread are starting to make sense now in a weird way

And good morning to you too. Have you considered that previously I use to look over almost anything and now due to passive aggressiveness for no fault of mine, I can't.

So I would bring on issues and all of them would be legit issues, which I otherwise would not because I was too friendly.

So here we are, talking about pet sorc problem.

Look, I can see that whatever these people did has made you angry. But you have full control of your response. It's your choice to be passive-aggressive and to demand ridiculous solutions to your personal PvP issues. Your issues are not my fault on PC-NA, or the fault of some random petsorc or warden on Xbox-EU, for example. But your demand, if ZOS chose to grant it, would impact possibly tens of thousands of players across multiple continents and multiple platforms. That is patently unfair.

The problem you're experiencing is a personal one, not a petsorc problem.

SFDB

Hmm...
My main is a pet sorc...

Been dodging PVP in Cyrodiil for five years to do what I want and had my frustration laughed at by PVPers...

Pet sorcs annoy PVPers in battlegrounds....

barney2525

Aalahk wrote: »

So instead of asking ZOS to address the performance issues, you'd rather they just removed 2 of the main abilities that a fair few sorcerers use?

Seems like a bit of an overreaction.

No. Just make the pets "transparent" (not literally - just give them the same coding you give trees) so you can target the character.

It's amazing. You can "see" through a tree or a rock or a bush to pick up something on the ground, but a pet completely blocks everything in the world.

Aurielle

SFDB wrote: »

Hmm...
My main is a pet sorc...

Been dodging PVP in Cyrodiil for five years to do what I want and had my frustration laughed at by PVPers...

Pet sorcs annoy PVPers in battlegrounds....

Prepare to be farmed mercilessly, then, if you do decide to do BGs just to annoy PVPers. One pet sorc can be an annoyance, yes, but can usually be dealt with swiftly because they don’t have the bar space for more useful abilities. It’s stacked pet sorcs/WWs with 8-16 pets active that are the issue.

max_only

SFDB wrote: »

Hmm...
My main is a pet sorc...

Been dodging PVP in Cyrodiil for five years to do what I want and had my frustration laughed at by PVPers...

Pet sorcs annoy PVPers in battlegrounds....

Get your friends together. The more pve pet Sorcs in BGs the better. All of you have to wear maw of the infernal, venomous fabricant, and sloads.

idk

First, I would expect lag from seeing players with pet builds has more to do with the PC than internet though I could be mistaken.

Second, I think it would be improper to ban the use of specific skills in BGs. More specifically, it would be unfair to ban specific skills for some classes but not touch the other classes. It is irrelevant what you actually think of the skills.

StormeReigns

SFDB wrote: »

Hmm...
My main is a pet sorc...

Been dodging PVP in Cyrodiil for five years to do what I want and had my frustration laughed at by PVPers...

Pet sorcs annoy PVPers in battlegrounds....

Soon to be..
Mag Necro running Inevitable Detonation and Blastbones with 4115 spell damage and 72% spell crit seeing premade Sorc Zoo

Girl_Number8

Aurielle wrote: »

Girl_Number8 wrote: »

DocDova wrote: »

I am not asking sorcerer to be nerfed, I don't want any kind of change in their skill line up. I am just stating the problem I am facing, I don't know how prevalent this problem is either. But if we talk about it, we will know prevalence of this problem.

I don't mind getting killed in battlegrounds, I have faced way better teams when I started doing BG's, where they would be farming us at our base, they kill me and I would always jump down to be killed again. I don't mind invisible NBs ganking me, I don't mind teams running sload's, But when I sign up for 12 player battleground and I am getting 24 enemies, It cause lag for me. (didn't seem like framerate drop, as that would be more like slow motion ?)

Why I don't face lag when I am in a BG where there aren't entire teams made up of sorcerer ?

Then don't play bgs. When you play bgs you sign up for it all. You don't get to pick and choose who and what you will face. This is a nerf thread clear and simple. So adapt or quit....

Smh the entitlement

Known pet-stacker chiming in...

Nah....if you're going to chime in at all get your facts straight cryhard....lol

L2P

Girl_Number8

So you mean to say is that ZOS wants to say I shouldn't play BGs when their PvP anniversary event is about to start ? and that people can make me sign up for things, I don't want to do ? is that You are saying ?

No I said what I said. If you can't can't beat certain players and want to whine about it then make that post about that. But making a post about your Ps4 not being up to the job and then making it a nerf thread, trying to keep other players out of bgs just to accommodate your lack of skill and experience, isn't quite fair....

Dealing with pet Sorcys can be frustrating but the fact that you don't know the basic 101 to take one out says enough. Learn like everyone else did, myself included by experience. That it all....

pod88kk

ZirconJunkie wrote: »

Well, the servers are being upgraded next week to supposedly fix performance. Although, I've been playing this game for half a decade and while some patches are better than others, the lag is always there in some form or another. I wouldn't hold my breath.

In other news there will be a cold spell in hell & flying pigs

CleymenZero

DocDova wrote: »

There are players who are purposefully keeping two pets as well as daedroth (maw of infernal) to create artificial lag for people who don't have access to very good speed internet. I see two daedroth, 2 flying pets , 2 familiar in like 5 meters around me and it's creates 'Extra lag'. Pets actions add to lags (unlike other classes) and they use them as shield from attack (that's OK with me), It's an actual issue now, I see entire teams of sorcerers running 2-3 pets (with Maw of infernal) each, and I am lagging like hell. I don't play NBs But I don't mind them, You can gank me to your heart's content, But I seriously having issues with anything which causes lag.

Two games back, I got 1.7 million damage (4-5 games continuously I get between 800k- 1.7 million damage) and then comes team which create lag. What's the solution to this ? Sorcerer's pets are causing lag and they know it and exploiting it. I am an honest stamina DK with moderate speed internet connection (20-25 mbps usually) and these all sorcerer 2-3 pets teams are causing me lot of lag. What to do ? How to stop people from exploiting it ?

More characters on screen required more resources. Now to say that they do it to purposefully cause lag is absurd. I have to say it again it's absurd, ridiculous etc.

The reason they run this build is because it is a cancerous build. It is not to intentionally slow you down and whatever, it is just really annoying to fight and those that don't tap-target will just waste so much time and resources, allowing an opening and will wreck you or at least hinder you greatly.

Now the lag is not the user's fault by the developer's. Do you really think they destroy a class based on this? Should they cancel the ability for users to have non combatant pets in all trials to save on resources?

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