Unofficial NB Thread

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How do we feel about the direction Nightblades are going in?

Shinshadow

F$#@%ing sucks. . .

Blinkin8r

I'll be building my nightblade a really nice tomb in my main home before I cancel my sub and uninstall.

frostz417

Nightblades have been top tier dps for so long and stamblades have been an absolute carry in PvP for God knows how long.
They’ve never received nerfs like other classes
Templars in morrowind and homestead
DK’s in imperial city and dragon bones
Sorcs in murkmire
We’ve all felt the shaft and now the nightblade will too. Bring on the salt

ExhumedToConsume

Practically all of my stamblade's skills get nerfed, and my magblade is even worse off now. Seems like way too many nerfs.

Aenthel

frostz417 wrote: »

Nightblades have been top tier dps for so long and stamblades have been an absolute carry in PvP for God knows how long.
They’ve never received nerfs like other classes
Templars in morrowind and homestead
DK’s in imperial city and dragon bones
Sorcs in murkmire
We’ve all felt the shaft and now the nightblade will too. Bring on the salt

Must be new around here. Nightblades have been utter crap for years before they got to where they are now.
Not to mention, almost all the "nerfs" guts magblade while stamblade is relatively safe and competitive still.

JinMori

Honestly, it's not really a nerf, only thing i would ask is increase both the grim focus morphs to 30 seconds.

VoiDGhOs7

A good direction, Oblivion is the place they deserve.

frostz417

Aenthel wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Nightblades have been top tier dps for so long and stamblades have been an absolute carry in PvP for God knows how long.
They’ve never received nerfs like other classes
Templars in morrowind and homestead
DK’s in imperial city and dragon bones
Sorcs in murkmire
We’ve all felt the shaft and now the nightblade will too. Bring on the salt

Must be new around here. Nightblades have been utter crap for years before they got to where they are now.
Not to mention, almost all the "nerfs" guts magblade while stamblade is relatively safe and competitive still.

I guess playing for 3 years is new lol.
Nightblades have been top tier, stamblade at least. I will however vouch on the topic of magblade and I think it needs some love PvP wise and it should be given defensive buffs.
But stamblade has been a complete carry in PvP and pve for years and has never gotten a nerf for a very very long time

TriangularChicken

good changes for group play, love it

Scarpion

StamNB has been a top 3 class in PvP since thieves guild. These are great changes to bring the class more in line with others. Melee magicka nightblade was also given some love, it's been a pretty garbage spec for such a long time even though it was one of the most popular specs back in the day, so that's great to see.

JinMori

While i play all classes i see that a lot of people here get really angry at the fact that they've been a bit better for the last year or so, i bet if your class was in the position of stam nb, you would be the ones "crying" right now.

Look, the forums is a place to discuss things objectively, not to gloat at others when it seems like there has been a nerf, because maybe you've been killed a lot of times by said class.

It just shows how petty you are, the goal is to have a balanced game experience not to have one class rule, then bring it down and then have another class take it's place.

So honestly, if all you have to say is things like stop crying or good riddance or things like that, you clearly did not understand the purpose of the forums.

In any case, so far i can;t really see this as nerfs.

OtarTheMad

Stamina now has access to Minor Mangle, which is the Pulsar debuff… damn. Stamblade buff.

Ragnaroek93

I don't like the changes. The 5% pen from Surprise Attack seems a bit underwhelming, Mark Target is a really bad skill in most situations (just compare it with Ele Drain which has no initial cost and gives like 600 recovery), Ambush is now a zerg skill, they remove the only snare which I have (Fear) and Grim Focus looks very bad now as well. In the meantime the other classes get buffed (except magsorc) and with the new Race Against Time skill you get a snare removal AND major expedition for free without having to play with med armor and a bow which was the only reason to go for med armor to begin with...

kathandira

Won't know for absolutely sure till it is released, but i'm cool with it currently. I don't see my MagNB losing much in the way of DPS in PvE.

Joosef_Kivikilpi

Blinkin8r wrote: »

I'll be building my nightblade a really nice tomb in my main home before I cancel my sub and uninstall.

My main Breton Mageblade since beta will now be my main gathering crafting surveys at 200% move speed while invisible 😪

Tommy_The_Gun

At this point ?
I suggest change the class name to a Nerfblade. Or just a "blade"

Btw.
My main Is an Argonian.
Argonians got shafeted pretty hard last update.
My main is a Nightblade hybrid. Formerly I was a Sap tank.
Nightblades got nerfed pretty hard this update.

So you can kinda guess how do I feel about this. I was honestly expecting some mag NB & tanking buffs for Nightblade...
...But.. noooo... Because NB (an assassin) ganks people in PvP...

Marcus_Thracius

so no more snipe spammers
Ad just lost 3/4 of its Dps

HEBREWHAMMERRR

Still *** for pvp magblades. 6 man fear will be nice with a meteor. That being said “fear” no longer “fears” and they will just cower. So it’s essentially a hard cc but 6 targets will be nice. I mean *** we will need it with the little tools we have to stay alive. Oh and they just randomly decided to nerf the hist sap set which was what I used to stay alive since they *** all over my healing when they gutted healing Ward.

KatySpirit

I play a NB healer and have a Magblade for pve and I am not too bothered. It's nice to see the increase to Sap's damage, since NB needs to have more AOE damage. I guess I would have preferred an increase in damage of Twisting Path, since Sap is costly.
The removal of Bersek just keeps the healers on their toes I'm up to the challenge.
I think the Dark Cloak changes scare me the most (for NB tanks) but I shall wait to see it in action, perhaps it will work out well.

Iskiab

There isn’t enough information in the notes to tell. Like it mentions soul tether being 8m, then mentions Soul Siphon too. Did they nerf Soul Siphon? 8m range on soul Siphon would make it the worst ultimate in the game.

Minor vulnerability on lotus fan? Did I read that right that lotus fan had it’s damage increased plus will give minor vulnerability? I’d take minor vulnerability over the lost 8% damage buff any day of the week.

Does race against time cleanse snares?

I can see a heavy armour melee magblade work (without concealed, lack of self healing will make heavy a requirement), maybe super speedy range (full steed + *3 speed)... have to log on to tell.

Dark cloak was changed, but I thought it was funny when they called it a burst heal.

Blackleopardex

I'm not so sure while nerfing dark cloak and giving us another damage based heal is the way to go for for magblades in pvp, needs testing tho, I'll be back...

Kikke

The one class that has screamed the most about nerfing other classes finally got nerfed? Jupp, happy.

Tommy_The_Gun

Kikke wrote: »

The one class that has screamed the most about nerfing other classes finally got nerfed? Jupp, happy.

Nope, sorcs got buffed actually.

ShadowHvo

I honestly really like it.

I think Grim Focused got gutted in the wrong places, it was one of the nice buff options, but it can no longer serve that purpose.

I'm more peeved about loosing both minor and major endurance (From Relentless Focus and Whirling Blades respectively) since it will gimp my sustain as a Dunmer.

Otherwise, I think the changes to Shades, Teleport Strike and Surprise Attack is all nice. I honestly really dig that Ambush might now be worthwhile to slot in more difficult content for the additional damage.

xeNNNNN

Aenthel wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Nightblades have been top tier dps for so long and stamblades have been an absolute carry in PvP for God knows how long.
They’ve never received nerfs like other classes
Templars in morrowind and homestead
DK’s in imperial city and dragon bones
Sorcs in murkmire
We’ve all felt the shaft and now the nightblade will too. Bring on the salt

Must be new around here. Nightblades have been utter crap for years before they got to where they are now.
Not to mention, almost all the "nerfs" guts magblade while stamblade is relatively safe and competitive still.

Honestly, I can see a more tank orientated playstyle coming in now. Yeah the loss of damage sucks on the surface but if you build more sustain based, heavy armor and sword of board it can still be pretty fun instead of just going glass cannon all the time.

Hell by all accounts according to people my stamblade is "trash" because I dont have the same damage as some builds but my shear survivability wins out right now and im not even that tanky tbh, running around in cyro with medium is never safe.

Same for my magblade, I think at this point I've accepted that my bombblade is dead and the mindless zergs get to keep going. So I will build my nightblade in a more sap tank orientated way. I will adapt.

I refuse to give up just because "nerfs".

RaddlemanNumber7

My NB bow gankers are completely ***, but I don't care. I'll be playing only Necro now for months and months and months.

Koensol

The dark cloak change is absolutely terrible. They basically turned a much needed 'semi burst heal' into a generic hot...

TequilaFire

The way I play my brawler stamblade these changes won't be hard to deal with.
I feel for my fellow magblades though, jealousy of sorcs killed them.

exeeter702

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Aenthel wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Nightblades have been top tier dps for so long and stamblades have been an absolute carry in PvP for God knows how long.
They’ve never received nerfs like other classes
Templars in morrowind and homestead
DK’s in imperial city and dragon bones
Sorcs in murkmire
We’ve all felt the shaft and now the nightblade will too. Bring on the salt

Must be new around here. Nightblades have been utter crap for years before they got to where they are now.
Not to mention, almost all the "nerfs" guts magblade while stamblade is relatively safe and competitive still.

Honestly, I can see a more tank orientated playstyle coming in now. Yeah the loss of damage sucks on the surface but if you build more sustain based, heavy armor and sword of board it can still be pretty fun instead of just going glass cannon all the time.

Hell by all accounts according to people my stamblade is "trash" because I dont have the same damage as some builds but my shear survivability wins out right now and im not even that tanky tbh, running around in cyro with medium is never safe.

Same for my magblade, I think at this point I've accepted that my bombblade is dead and the mindless zergs get to keep going. So I will build my nightblade in a more sap tank orientated way. I will adapt.

I refuse to give up just because "nerfs".

Nothing about these changes suggest a tankier playstyles would be bolstered. Sap essence is still healing for the same amount despite a damage increase. The lengethend dark cloak is an increased minor protection duration buff at the expense of a weaker heal per tick. The Will proc will not heal for anything on a build that is tankier.

Minor invul on gap closer, increased sap essence damage, 7m burst heal, increased cleave damage on shade image are all melee / close rnage buffs for a class that has absolutely no business being in melee range if it has any desire to not die in a few seconds.

paulychan

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