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Eidetic Memory Bugs/Comments/Help, Volume Two

BrightOblivion
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List of Bugged Books Up-to-Date As of Patch: 4.3.10

With the other thread reaching its 57th page and with the approval of the previous thread’s author, who’s not had enough time lately to keep it updated, I’ve decided to create a new thread in order to keep track of those books which are bugged and require ZOS’s intervention to fix, and allow players to ask for help finding books they might be looking for. The ultimate goal of this thread is, with the help of the community of players and ZOS, to allow people to reach 100% Eidetic Memory completion on any character, regardless of alliance, provided they do necessary quests and have necessary chapters and DLC.

When it comes to Eidetic Memory books, there are several issues which typically cause a book to be unobtainable:

1) The area they are in is only accessible during a quest (after the quest, or after a certain stage in the quest, interacting with the access door is greyed out and the area is inaccessible). Interacting with them is not required to progress the quest, and so they are very easy to miss.
2) The book is a quest item. It starts the quest, can be read during the quest, or is placed in the inventory during a quest, but after the quest or after a certain stage, becomes inaccessible. Interacting with these books (thus giving the Eidetic Memory entry) is not required during the quest, and there is no post-quest location. In some cases, the book is placed into the inventory with no notice and removed at a later quest stage (sometimes as soon as you talk to the next person). These books MUST be read during that time period, as no post-quest location exists.
3) As people progress through various quests, certain areas of the world change, depending on what quests are active and what might be happening in the area. In the process of this phasing, some of the books may disappear. If one doesn’t obtain that entry during the period when the book is active, there may not be another opportunity.
4) The books are only obtainable within the Gate Camps of certain alliances. Access to these books is restricted only to members of one or two alliances. Fortunately, there are very few books like this, but copies of them need to be placed in areas accessible by members of the other alliances.

I want to give a special Thank You to Ayantir, Garkin, and Kyoma for keeping the LoreBooks addon up-to-date and to Mix for creating the last thread, keeping it updated as often as he was able, and giving me permission to make this one. I also want to thank all the amazing community members that have helped and continue to help fellow players find books and note which ones are bugged and in need of fixing. A huge thanks also goes to all those people at ZOS who have worked together to create this amazing world we play around in and all of the bits of lore we’re chasing after, and to those who take the time to run down and fix those pesky books that we report. With motif pages, Shalidor’s Library, and Eidetic Memory books, there are 4162 books currently (as of pre-Elsweyr) scattered throughout the world in PvP areas, in overland zones, throughout quests, in dungeons, trials, and arenas, and even randomly hidden within various bookcases - with more being added in every update – and players are talking about and actively working toward trying to collect them all. How amazing is that?

Imperial City Bookshelf Guide
(Credit to Mix for the maps, routes, and pictures)

Note that these are from the perspective of an EP character and may not be the most reasonable route if one is entering from one of the other alliance main camps. Also included are pictures of all of the bookshelves. Note that there are also 8 bookshelves located within the Temple Rectory in the SE area of the Temple District (four stacks of two bookshelves, one on top of the other, with two stacks on either side of the area at the top of the stairs) and one bookshelf located in the room underneath the flag in the Elven Gardens district (down the stairs from where you enter that room). These are not pictured or included in the route.
Temple District:
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IC Bookshelf 1:
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IC Bookshelf 2:
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IC Bookshelf 3:
Jump down to reach bookshelf 3.
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IC Bookshelf 4:
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IC Bookshelf 5:
Bookshelf 5 is in the same room as bookshelf 4.
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IC Bookshelf 6:
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IC Bookshelf 7:
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Nobles District: Be aware there is a patrolling boss monster along this route!
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IC Bookshelf 8:
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IC Bookshelf 9:
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Elven Gardens District:
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IC Bookshelf 10:
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There is also a bookshelf under the capture area in this district.
Memorial District:
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IC Bookshelf 11:
aka the "book stacks"
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If one follows the listed route and, additionally, checks the bookshelves listed above, they will come across roughly 27 different bookshelves. Note that it is possible to enter different Imperial City campaigns and find different books within the same bookshelves, potentially bringing that total up to 54 with the Elsweyr update’s two Imperial City campaigns.

If having difficulty locating the following books, check the images (Credit to Mix for accumulating these, and those credited for the images):
  • Letter to Artisan Craftworks: Letters and Missives: Mournhold, Deshaan
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  • Or Else: Daedric Cults: Fighter's Guild area, Riften
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  • A Death Desired: Final Words: (moved in Update 12): Cyrodiil
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  • Kalodar's Letter: Final Words: Venim Woods area, The Rift
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  • Larellei, Wenayasille, Morilata, Angalayond: Mysteries and Clues: Rivenspire thank you @StrangerFull for the new location and screenshots!
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  • Missing Citizens: Mysteries and Clues: Dawnbreak, Auridon
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  • The Knighting Ceremony: Rituals and Revelations:
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  • The Hidden Key: Mysteries and Clues:
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  • Knowing Satakal: Devoted and Deranged: IC Bookshelf (Book Stack room in Memorial)
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  • The Fires Guide the Way: Mysteries and Clues: Shada's Tear, Craglorn in the City District, book starts quest (repeatable) and the prompt on read says "The Light Holds the Way" instead of the proper title.
  • Mauloch, Orc-Father: Lore and Culture: inside Abamath Ruins, Malabal Tor; also found on IC bookshelves
  • Letter to Egranor: Letters and Missives:
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  • Tome of Daedric Portals: Daedric Cults: inside Eldrald Undercroft in Rivenspire. On a table just to the left as you enter the circular room with the daedric portal thingy.
  • Mercano's Journal: Personal Journals: inside the Mages Guild in Woodhearth, Greenshade, on a stool in front of the right fireplace
  • Star Teeth, Volume 1: Rituals and Revelations:
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    Thanks @Sounomi for the screenshot.
  • Quartermaster's Log: Diaries and Logs: Blackheart Haven; Thank @StrangerFull for the screenshots.
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  • Distribution Notes: Houses, Shops, and Trade: Kalari's House in S'ren-ja. If you go upstairs there is a wardrobe that actually leads into a secret room. There are bookshelves on either side of the door leading back out which have the lorebooks on them. Thanks @jackhburgess
  • Enak-do's Ledger: Houses, Shops, and Trade: same as above

    Regarding the Books of Torinaan and “Blessings of the Eight”
    Within Torinaan in Auridon, connected to the area quest “Blessings of the Eight,” there are eleven books located within four shrine complexes, one to Magnus and Syrabane, one to Mara and Stendarr, one to Trinimac and Xarxes, and one to Anu and Y’ffre. Each deity has a book associated with it that has a copy located within its shrine room, and then there are three additional books, The Fires of Truth, Letter to the Aldarch and Brief Letter to the Aldarch. Note that, once a player cleanses both shrines within one of the complexes, the player loses access to that complex and the copies of the books within. Additionally, while Letter to the Aldarch, Brief Letter to the Aldarch, and The Fires of Truth receive locations in the overworld on the platform and steps surrounding the stairs down to the Shrine of Anu and Y’ffre, I was unable to locate similarly placed copies of the other books. However, based on the UESP log information, it would appear that these other books might be included in the pool of books accessed from bookshelves in the following zones.
    Bones of the Forest (Shrine of Y’ffre): Coils of the Father (Shrine of Anu):
    Gifts of Magnus (Shrine of Magnus): The Apprentices’ God (Shrine of Syrabane):
    Eastmarch, Alik’r Desert, Malabal Tor, Summerset, Artaeum
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    The Heart of Love (Shrine of Mara):
    Shadowfen, Rivenspire, Greenshade, Coldharbour, Summerset
    esoitem.uesp.net/viewlog.php?record=location&filter=bookId&filterid=256
    The Sounding Horn (Shrine of Stendarr):
    Eastmarch, Alik’r Desert, Malabal Tor, Summerset*
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    The Everscriven Tome (Shrine of Xarxes):
    Stonefalls, Glenumbra, Auridon, Bleakrock, Summerset
    esoitem.uesp.net/viewlog.php?record=location&filter=bookId&filterid=169
    The Warrior’s Blade (Shrine of Trinimac): *While randomly checking bookshelves inside the Monastery of Serene Harmony in Shimmerene, I did come across a copy of The Sounding Horn, which seems to confirm that these books do appear in these pools. It’s not an optimal means of obtaining the books, as the bookshelf pools tend to be quite large and it’s unpredictable when you might obtain the book you’re looking for, but it is an option to find them. Another would be for ZOS to place them in the world within the above-ground area of Torinaan. One possible spot could be at approximately 41.31x25.90 (Auridon) on top of a large stone circle near the door to the Central Torinaan Shrine.

    List of Known Currently-Bugged Books

    Orders to Halskar : Military Orders and Reports (FIXED: 5.0.1 PTS)
    This book is placed outside the Fort Morvunskar Barracks after the quest “Blindsided”, but disappears during the area’s phasing change near the end of “Sleep for the Dead,” when hostile NPCs are cleared from the fort and two guards take up residence blocking the door to the Barracks. Thus, anyone who has completed both quests and missed this book remains unable to obtain it. Ensuring that the book remains after that phasing change will be enough to fix it.
    House Hlaalu Merchant Camp : Handbills, Posters, and Decrees (FIXED: 5.0.0 PTS)
    This book is located on the ground near an overturned wagon at approximately 30.97x45.16 (Deshaan), but disappears during a phasing change following the quest “Payback” and does not return after the quest “Plaguebringer,” which ends activity in the region. A simple fix to this book is to ensure that it’s present after the conclusion of “Plaguebringer,” and anyone who missed it will be able to obtain it after finishing the area’s quest line.
    Tome of the Undaunted : Handbills, Posters, and Decrees
    This is the unsigned version that is located within the three Undaunted Enclaves. When the player signs the Tome as part of the quest “Taking the Undaunted Pledge,” the book is replaced by Tome of the Undaunted (signed) and the unsigned version becomes unobtainable. Thus, if your first interaction with the Tome is to sign it during the quest, you cannot obtain the unsigned version. Possible solutions for this book include putting a version somewhere else at one of the enclaves, or even on the pedestal at one of the non-AD Undaunted Enclaves where the books cannot currently be interacted with after the quest, regardless of which alliance the character is in. Another option, since this is literally the same content as Tome of the Undaunted (signed) with the exception of the player’s signature, is to delete this book and just have the signed version be the only one, accessible after completing the associated quest
    Nahirah's Journal : Personal Journals
    The quest this book is associated with, "The Search for Shiri," is only available before accepting the quest "Amputating the Hand." Because of this, if one misses/skips this quest, they also miss the book. While they have access to the building in which the book appears, and Nahirah is still dead on the ground, the book is not there. Possible fixes for this would be to trigger the book's appearance on completion of "Amputating the Hand," making "The Search for Shiri" available regardless of whether the player has started/completed "Amputating the Hand," or divorcing the appearance of the book from "The Search for Shiri" entirely. Please see the threads here and here for more information
    Conversion Status : Wrothgar Writings (FIXED: 5.0.1 PTS)
    While currently this book is immediately added to the Eidetic Memory collection during the quest "Forcing the Faith," issues in the past have prevented some players from being able to access it. During the quest, the book is removed from the table on which the player finds it and is placed in the player's inventory. Upon completion of the quest, it is then removed from the player's inventory and the world as a whole. In order to fix it for those who experienced the bug in the past, it is suggested that, when "Forcing the Faith" is completed, the book be returned to the table from whence it came.
    Rhanbiq’s Notes : Hew’s Bane Bookshelf
    This book is never actually in the world, since the player retrieves it from a lockbox at one of three inns (depending on the alliance of the player) during the quest “The One That Got Away,” and it is placed in the player’s quest items inventory and removed a step later after talking to Bellulor Chatterbreak in the town’s Outlaw Refuge (both with no notice). As such, it is easy for people to miss their opportunity to obtain this book and, with no copy existing elsewhere in the world, to do so permanently. In order to resolve this, it would be helpful for a copy to be placed somewhere after the quest is over. Possible locations would include the “Hew’s Mane” inn where the player meets Zeira both to progress the quest and to turn it in, or somewhere within the Thieves Den. This way, it doesn’t matter which alliance the player is in or what path they take through the quest as a result.
    Invitation to the Kinlady’s Conference : Summerset Scrolls (FIXED: 5.0.1 PTS)
    This book is never actually in the world. After the player informs him of goings-on within the Cathedral of Serene Harmony as part of the quest “The Queen’s Decree,” Razum-dar gives the invitation to the player, placing it in the player’s quest items inventory, and it is removed when the player talks to Galmelon one quest step later, meaning that the window to interact with it and add it to one’s collection is incredibly small and very easy to miss. In order to fix this, I would suggest adding a copy either on the front porch or on one of the tables inside the Kinlady’s Mansion. After all, in all the excitement of the party, it wouldn’t be unexpected for Galmelon to have set one of the invitations down on his way to do something else.
    Sapiarch’s Recommendation, Writ of Valid Credentials : Summerset Scrolls (FIXED: 5.0.0 PTS)
    These books are never actually in the world. During the quest “Culture Clash,” they are placed in the player’s quest items inventory after doing favors for Sapiarch Tandemen and Justiciar Rolumdel respectively, and are removed when the player speaks to Vindilween and hands them to her. Because they are placed in the quest items inventory for a short time, they are easy to miss, and it would be beneficial for copies of them to be added within the world itself. Possible locations could include the area around the steps outside the Alinor Royal Palace, or near where the player speaks to the associated NPCs. For Tandemen, this is the table at 46.70x46.35 (Alinor), and for Rolumdel, this could be on top of the low wall he is standing by at 49.73x39.48 (Lillandril).
    Illuminus, The Forest Dark, The Truth of Minotaurs, The Siege of Ald Marak : Summerset Scrolls
    These books are part of the quest "Illusions of Grandeur" in the Illumination Academy, and are recovered and shelved as part of the quest (after which they disappear). No post-quest location seems to exist.
    Naliara's Notes, Days 2, 8, 13, and 18; King's Haven Territory Record, King's Haven Trade Record, and King's Haven Scouting Record : Summerset Scrolls
    These books are part of the quest "Savage Truths." During the quest, they are interacted with, the note pages disappear, and the plaques on which the records are kept become uninteractable. If a bug occurs where the books aren't added to the collection at this moment, it cannot be fixed. Thus, a post-quest location for them is needed.
    Lirendel's Family Shrine : Summerset Scrolls
    This only appears during the quest "A Duelist's Dilemma," on the statue in Tor-Hame-Khard. After the quest, the plaque is once again uninteractable. I'll need to do this quest again to remember where the duel takes place in order to be certain that a rubbing of it isn't left there, but I do not believe that will be the case.
    Bright-Throat Riddle Fragment, Dead Water Riddle Fragment : Lore of Murkmire
    These books are added to the player’s quest items inventory during the quest “Whispers in the Wood,” and then removed upon its completion. No real indication is given that they have been added, and no copy is present in the world after the quest is completed. One possible post-quest solution for both of these books would be to place them within the Cyrodillic Collections building in Lilmoth. To that end, there is an empty table to the left of the door (while standing at the door and looking inside), which would be a perfect location.

    Books Which Need A Taxi (FIXED: 5.0.1 PTS)
    What I mean by this is that, after completing the associated quest, or a step in the associated quest, the only way to obtain these books is by grouping with someone who is at that particular part. While this is not preferable and it would certainly be preferred if ZOS were to add a copy accessible outside the quest, it does still allow players to access books they might otherwise not be able to. If you are on PC-NA, I have a character on my second account who has access to these and can give you a lift. I do not currently have plans to do the same on PC-EU, and do not have access to an XBOX or PS4. However, if someone else on those platforms is willing to offer their fellow players a lift to those areas, please let me know and I’ll list your name here.

    No Reason to Worry : Criminal Correspondence (Quest: Moon Sugar Medicament)
    This book is located within Hazak’s Lair, a back room of Hazak’s Hollow. It is only accessible after the quest step to enter Hazak’s Lair, and before killing the target inside and turning in the quest. Possible locations that would be accessible after the quest include the area within Hazak’s Hollow but outside Hazak’s Lair, or next to where the questgiver is standing.
    Blackguard Instructions, One, Two, and Three : Criminal Correspondence ; The Curse of Beela-Kaar : Rituals and Revelations (Quest: The Cursed Skull)
    These books are only available on the island of Norg-Tzel, which is only accessed during the Murkmire prologue quest “The Cursed Skull.” However, one can return to this island, by grouping with someone who is able to access the island, starting at the objective “Commandeer the Blackguards’ Ship.” Note that you cannot teleport to someone on the island as no wayshrines exist to teleport to. Instead, you must travel to the area you found the boat, south of Deep Graves, and speak to the pilot who will be there. To avoid this, a possible location to place additional copies of these books is in Stormhold, by where Concordia Mercius and Jee-Lar are standing to give the prologue dailies.

    Books Which Are Unobtainable to Members of Certain Alliances
    Updated Instructions from Dortene, Information Request from Emeric : Military Order and Reports (AD, EP)
    The only location of these two books is within the Southern High Rock Gate camp, meaning that anyone who isn’t DC is unable to obtain them. If a version were added within the gatehouses at the Gates of Alma Ruma or Ni-Mohk, it would allow members of both EP and AD to obtain them, albeit only after someone captures the keeps necessary to access the gate.
    Those Who Stood At Chalman Keep : Tales of Tamriel (AD)
    In one of the last few updates, this book was moved from its location in Chalman Keep to a spot on Grand Warlord Zimmeron’s table in the Northern Morrowind Gate. As there was already a copy within the Southern High Rock Gate camp, this did not impact DC players. However, neither of these locations are accessible for AD players. Therefore, they either need a copy placed within one of their gate camps or within an area they are able to access.


    If you find any other bugged books, are able to locate a copy of the bugged books I listed, or have any questions about any other books, please don’t hesitate to say so, and post coordinates or map pictures if you are able, so that others are able to find them/ check it out more easily. The entire purpose of this is for the Community to help fellow players find the books they’re looking for, and it doesn’t work without y’all.

    Additionally, if anyone at ZOS has any questions or suggestions on how I can make this more useful to y’all, please don’t hesitate to chime in. As evidenced by what I found with Orders to Halskar recently, even a lot of people running through an area can miss things or be mistaken about what’s causing it. If you have evidence that “Hey, I really don’t think this book is broken and I’m not sure why you all are saying it is,” even if it’s just to hint “Go look in this general location,” go ahead! If you have questions about something we’re seeing and want to know our quest status in an area, be my guest! If you just want to chat about the hunt or the books themselves, perfect! You folks are part of this as well, and if we can help y’all pinpoint issues going on with these books or confirm that no issue exists, that’s outstanding! My ultimate hope is that, at some point, we can completely remove the “Bugs” portion of the title, and make this thread (or a different iteration) solely about helping people locate those books they’re having trouble finding or chat about the ones they’ve found, so they can experience the story you’ve created to the fullest without having to wonder “Wait, have I completely missed out on getting that story on this toon?” Y’all and the work you do are an integral part of making that happen.

    Anyway, that’s more than enough chatter from me for now. Happy hunting, folks, and I’ll see y’all in Tamriel!
Edited by BrightOblivion on April 22, 2019 7:57PM
  • BrightOblivion
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    4/11/2019: Added Conversion Status and Nahirah's Journal to the List of Bugged Books.
    4/22/2019: Added the books connected to "Savage Truths" and "Illusions of Grandeur," and Lirendel's Family Shrine to the List of Bugged Books. Also added notes of which books have been fixed so far during this PTS cycle to the first post.
    Edited by BrightOblivion on April 22, 2019 8:00PM
  • BrightOblivion
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    To continue on some points brought up near the tail-end of the last thread:

    @Oldbushie While I didn't include Conversion Status in the list, it's not because I'm ignoring it. I'm still trying to run it down and figure out what's going on, and have in fact run through the quest associated with Paragon's Remembrance three times in the past couple days. All three times, the quest arrow pointed at the book and, when I ran it the third time and tried to avoid the book, I found that I couldn't. I *had to* interact with the book, which put it in that character's eidetic memory collection, before it would let me progress the quest. Assuming you've completed the quest "Forcing the Faith" given by the orc Razasha outside the area, has this not always been the case?

    Either way, I'm not super sure why they couldn't ensure that the book was located on its table once the quest was finished, just in case they missed something at one point. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

    @DanaeldeWitz Hopefully the section on the Murkmire prologue books helps you get those!

    @Meesha1170 Would you say that my observations regarding Orders to Halskar reflect what you noticed?
  • Oldbushie
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    To continue on some points brought up near the tail-end of the last thread:

    @Oldbushie While I didn't include Conversion Status in the list, it's not because I'm ignoring it. I'm still trying to run it down and figure out what's going on, and have in fact run through the quest associated with Paragon's Remembrance three times in the past couple days. All three times, the quest arrow pointed at the book and, when I ran it the third time and tried to avoid the book, I found that I couldn't. I *had to* interact with the book, which put it in that character's eidetic memory collection, before it would let me progress the quest. Assuming you've completed the quest "Forcing the Faith" given by the orc Razasha outside the area, has this not always been the case?

    Either way, I'm not super sure why they couldn't ensure that the book was located on its table once the quest was finished, just in case they missed something at one point. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.
    Thanks for the heads up!

    I know there have been many times when books would not be placed in Eidetic Memory after being read, though they often get fixed post-release to properly trigger. However, that doesn't help people who ran the quest when it first came out. I probably did read it as part of the quest but never noticed that it didn't trigger in Eidetic Memory until the LoreBooks addon was available.

  • Nestor
    Nestor
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    Thank you for your work on this. As a book collector from early TES Games, I do seek out all tomes. This thread, and the previous one are invaluable.

    Appreciate your efforts
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"

  • Meesha1170
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    @BrightOblivion- now that you mention the environment changing throughout different phases of the quest chain, the notion that Orders from Halskar fails to carry over into the last phase and is in fact all together missing rather than being submerged in the snow sounds more plausible.
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    @BrightOblivion thank you for your work here - much appreciated.

    Please add one more book to the list of books that are bugged: Nahirah's Journal. This book is not available to players who finished Alik'r storyline but skipped "The search for Shiri" quest, and that quest is not active after finishing Alik'r storyline. My original bugreport is here and there is also another thread about that book. I believe the easiest solution is to make the book available in this location not only upon completing "The search for Shiri" quest, but also upon completing "Amputating the Hand" quest where we defeat Shiri.
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  • BrightOblivion
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    Alrighty. Added Conversion Status and Nahirah's Journal to the list! With Nahirah's Journal, I'd seen it listed in the previous Excel document, but the only explanation provided there was "post-quest location?" Having completed "The Search for Shiri," I went to the location, saw the book, and went "Umm...it's right here after the quest, isn't it?" So thank you very much for linking those threads and for the explanation behind the issue. I had no idea that quest went away when starting "Amputating the Hand."

    Provided I have access, I do intend to check on the listed books when the PTS updates on Monday, and to try to at least run through the Elsweyr quests in order to double-check that those books are in working order and there aren't any phasing issues. Those notes and updates will likely be restricted to the PTS forum due to potential NDA restrictions and the like. However, if someone experiencing the aforementioned issue with Nahirah's Journal can check periodically through the PTS cycle to note any changes (in case they aren't mentioned in the patch notes), it would be much appreciated. My main character, whom I will be using to check on most of the listed issues, has done "The Search for Shiri," and so the book is already there. It's also behind the series of quests stretching most of the way across the Alik'r, so getting another character to the point s/he could verify if it's still bugged is a bit cumbersome.
  • Chosin137
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    As Nahira's Journal and the 3 Summerset books are the only remaining ones I have left, I will be personally checking this @BrightOblivion .
  • Meesha1170
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    @BrightOblivion Look forward to seeing if your research yields any results. I myself am only 5 books away as of this moment and they are all bugged ones. Hopefully some are fixed with Elsweyr.
  • Oldbushie
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    "Seek Adventure in Murkmire!" has been nowhere to be found. I tried searching for it before I started Murkmire and after I finished the entire Murkmire storyline, to no avail. Is there a special trigger for it I missed somehow?

    Edit: Apparently it's visible after you finish one of the Murkmire Prologue dailies. Kinda weird, but okay.
    Edited by Oldbushie on April 15, 2019 2:07PM
  • Chosin137
    Chosin137
    Soul Shriven
    Sapiarch’s Recommendation, Writ of Valid Credentials : Summerset Scrolls fixed as of Elswyr PTS, available on the table in Queens palace. Invitation to the Kinlady’s Conference still missing. Nahirah's Journal still missing.
  • BrightOblivion
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    Chosin137 wrote: »
    Sapiarch’s Recommendation, Writ of Valid Credentials : Summerset Scrolls fixed as of Elswyr PTS, available on the table in Queens palace. Invitation to the Kinlady’s Conference still missing. Nahirah's Journal still missing.

    That's outstanding regarding Sapiarch's and the Writ! I can confirm they're there in the conference room, which should make @Carbonised happy. It also brings my total missing down to 6. I really wish they'd included it in the notes. @ZOS_GinaBruno , can you ask the folks who fixed it if others made it in but didn't make the PTS notes? So far, with these two and House Hlaalu Merchant Camp, that makes 3.

    Knowing which ones are supposedly fixed helps us tell you "Yes, they are" or "No, they aren't." Not telling us does not. Please help us help you.

    In the interest of helping to crowdsource, because I completely missed those 2 @Chosin137 caught, I have searched:

    Fort Morvunskar post-"Sleep for the Dead" (no Orders)

    Kinlady Avinisse's Mansion, the Anchors Aweigh Inn, the Cathedral of Serene Harmony, and streets near those locations (no Invitation)

    Cyrodillic Collections and the Deadwater Gravesinger's House (no Deadwater Riddle Fragment)

    Coin Brothers' Cornerclub, Stormhold Outlaw Refuge, Hew's Mane, Thieves Den, and the area outside the cistern entrance (no Rhanbiq's notes)

    Both DC scroll temple gates (no Further Instructions or Information Request)
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    Currently, I've turned my attention to Elsweyr and its books, but will check in throughout the cycle. Hopefully with notes of fixes in the Patch Notes, maybe?
    Edited by BrightOblivion on April 16, 2019 5:28PM
  • BrightOblivion
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    At the request of a guild member, I'm currently investigating the following books for post-quest locations. If anyone happens to know of any, please don't hesitate to point them out.

    Illuminus, The Forest Dark, The Truth of Minotaurs, The Siege of Ald Marak : Summerset Scrolls
    These books are part of the quest "Illusions of Grandeur" in the Illumination Academy, and are recovered and shelved as part of the quest (after which they disappear). No post-quest location seems to exist.

    Naliara's Notes, Days 2, 8, 13, and 18; King's Haven Territory Record, King's Haven Trade Record, and King's Haven Scouting Record : Summerset Scrolls
    These books are part of the quest "Savage Truths." During the quest, they are interacted with, the note pages disappear, and the plaques on which the records are kept become uninteractable. If a bug occurs where the books aren't added to the collection at this moment, it cannot be fixed. Thus, a post-quest location for them is needed.

    Lirendel's Family Shrine : Summerset Scrolls
    This only appears during the quest "A Duelist's Dilemma," on the statue in Tor-Hame-Khard. After the quest, the plaque is once again uninteractable. I'll need to do this quest again to remember where the duel takes place in order to be certain that a rubbing of it isn't left there, but I do not believe that will be the case.


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    My current findings on the PTS (as of 5.0.1) :
    • Orders to Halskar is FIXED!!!! (Checked on my main character who has done both quests in the area, and it was there on the ground by the steps)
    • Invitation to the Kinlady's Conference has a location on the table near Riharai the Brewer in the Anchor's Aweigh Inn in Shimmerene!!!!
    • Conversion Status is on the table in Paragon's Remembrance once the quest is complete!!!! ( @Oldbushie )
    • For those missing the books on Norg-Tzel (Blackguard Instructions One, Two, and Three and The Curse of Beela-Kar, these are now scattered about Jee-Lar and Concordia near Stormhold!!!!
    • Hazak's Lair in Khenarthis' Roost can now be entered even after the associated quest, meaning that No Reason to Worry no longer needs a taxi!!!!

    • A location for a book labeled "Rhanbiq's Notes" has been added to the barrel near the Tip Board in the Thieves' Den. HOWEVER interacting with it opens up the Riddles of the Rithana-di-Renada and does not add Rhanbiq's Notes to the player's collection. (I just reported this in-game, but didn't grab the report number.) On the plus side, it's one step closer to having this one fixed!
    • I have checked the three Undaunted enclaves, and checked the inns of the three starter cities where the player is first inducted into the Undaunted for good measure, and have not been able to locate a copy of the unsigned Tome of the Undaunted after completing the quest "Signing the Undaunted Pledge." I will add that the Tomes in Mournhold and Wayrest remain uninteractable. Only the copy in Elden Root actually acts like a book. (/bug at Mournhold: 190422-003503)
    • I have searched Cyrodillic Collections, the area in and around the Swallowed Grove, the Deadwater Gravesinger's House, and the grove where Xukas hears the chimes, and have not been able to locate a copy of either the Bright-Throat Riddle Fragment or the Deadwater Riddle Fragment. I used /bug to mark these by the table in Cyrodillic Collections (190422-993471 for Bright-Throat and 190422-003481 for Deadwater, respectively).
    • I have also searched the area in and around both the Gate of Alma Ruma and the Gate of Ni-Mohk and seen no sign of Information Request from Emeric or Updated Instructions from Dortene, meaning that they are still completely unobtainable to members of the other two alliances no matter what they do (something I find extremely frustrating). I used /bug at the Gate of Alma Ruma (reports 190422-003790 and 190422-003812 respectively). If these are located anywhere but the area surrounding the gatehouses, more specific dev intervention is going to be needed, as the area between them and the camps is particularly large and unpleasant to search for something the size of a letter.
    • I have searched the Illumination Academy Stacks and the area around the Illumination Academy, and have been unable to locate copies of Illuminus, The Truth of Minotaurs, The Siege of Ald Marak or The Forest Dark after the quest "Illusions of Grandeur" for those who encountered bugs with the books when they did the quest.
    • The books connected to the quest "Savage Truths" are still without post-quest locations. These include Naliara's Notes, Days 2, 8, 13, and 18, King's Haven Territory Record, King's Haven Trade Record, and King's Haven Scouting Record. While they are interacted with during the course of the quest, bugs have occurred in the past which have rendered them unobtainable at the time. As such, a post-quest location would be beneficial.

    Note that I'm still in the process of running through all the books that have been reported to me, so additions are likely.
    Edited by BrightOblivion on April 22, 2019 7:55PM
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