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Dragon invasion breaks the lore, we should all be dead or dying soon
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AuraNebula✭✭✭✭✭Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.0 -
baltic1284✭✭✭Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.
Quite true there is the warp in the west that happened in Elder Scrolls II Daggerwin that took that region and made what it is later on in the game series and lore.1 -
Bruccius✭✭✭✭✭baltic1284 wrote: »baltic1284 wrote: »baltic1284 wrote: »baltic1284 wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »In the Third or Fourth Era, have you ever read about the Planemeld? No? Have you ever read about dragons in Elsweyr? No? Have you ever read about the failings of High Chancellor Abnur Tharn of the Empire under the rule of Valen Aquilarios? No? It's as if someone in a high position very adept at screwing things up while trying to do the right thing for the Empire made these recordings getting lost during the Interregnum. It was troubled times, you know?
ESO Exists in a sort of Paradox. The game literally screams this everywhere if you pay attention to the story.
Uh... Where? Examples?
As with any account of what happens in Elder Scrolls, players are free to create their own interpretations, no matter how crazy.
I do want to point out that the OP is basing this thread on an assumption without having experienced the Elsweyr main quest. I have not experienced it, either. It is under embargo, at the monent. Anyone who does know is not to be talking about it.
We do know that ZOS worked all of this out with Bethesda Game Studios, so whatever we find out is already blessed and canon according to both ZOS and BGS.
As far Lore is concerned the only place that had Dragons thus far was Skyrim, doesn't mean the Dragons weren't found in other locations. I am waiting to see how it is done, if it is done Lore friendly they don't just smash prior lore to do there thing and force fir it in but work with that lore that is already there to fit it in.
Did you miss the Dragons of Cyrodiil by any chance? Or those of Akavir? Atmora? Tell me, why on earth would Dragons - which are a dominating species by nature - settle for such exiled locations when they could have gone far beyond?
No I hadn't forgto but most people don't know of the other dragons closet they have is Skyrim where they see the dragons so most players relate to that itself.
And that is relevant, because? Let me ask you a question, the Redguards are native to Hammerfell. Using your logic, should we be able to see them in other lands? Yes or no?
Technically redgaurds arn't from hammerfell they are actually from Yokuda so no technically. But they have lived for so long that they can be considered from hammerfell, but I know you will come back with some witfully thing screaming this or that instead of just admitting what you did wrong.
Redguards are native to Hammerfell. Yokudans are native to Yokuda. They are not one and the same. It's like saying Atmorans and Nords are one and the same; it's simply false.
Redguards (formerly "Yokudans") hail from the western continent of Yokuda, which sank into the sea in ancient times.
the Yokudan fleet set sail to the east, eventually arriving in what would later be called Hammerfell.
Imperial scholars concluded that the term "Redguard" originated as a phonetic corruption of "Ra Gada"
WOW REDGAURDS ARE NOT FROM HAMMERFELL wow now either admit you are wrong or I report you that simple
[snip]
'' This vanguard "warrior wave" of Yokudans, the Ra Gada, swept into the country, quickly slaughtering and enslaving the beastfolk and Nedic villagers before them, bloodily paving the way for their people who waited at Herne, including the Na-Totambu, their kings and ruling bodies. The fierce Ra Gada became, phonetically, the Redguards, a name that has since spread to designate the Tamrielic-Yokudan race in general.''
From the Pocket Guide to the Empire.
Tamrielic-Yokudan race? Hmm, almost as if they were different. You know, much like the Nords and Atmorans.
[Edit to remove bait.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on April 18, 2019 1:18AM0 -
Bruccius✭✭✭✭✭Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.
That doesn't even make a lick of sense. Nothing in ESO implies even a bit that a Dragon Break is taking place.5 -
baltic1284✭✭✭baltic1284 wrote: »baltic1284 wrote: »baltic1284 wrote: »baltic1284 wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »In the Third or Fourth Era, have you ever read about the Planemeld? No? Have you ever read about dragons in Elsweyr? No? Have you ever read about the failings of High Chancellor Abnur Tharn of the Empire under the rule of Valen Aquilarios? No? It's as if someone in a high position very adept at screwing things up while trying to do the right thing for the Empire made these recordings getting lost during the Interregnum. It was troubled times, you know?
ESO Exists in a sort of Paradox. The game literally screams this everywhere if you pay attention to the story.
Uh... Where? Examples?
As with any account of what happens in Elder Scrolls, players are free to create their own interpretations, no matter how crazy.
I do want to point out that the OP is basing this thread on an assumption without having experienced the Elsweyr main quest. I have not experienced it, either. It is under embargo, at the monent. Anyone who does know is not to be talking about it.
We do know that ZOS worked all of this out with Bethesda Game Studios, so whatever we find out is already blessed and canon according to both ZOS and BGS.
As far Lore is concerned the only place that had Dragons thus far was Skyrim, doesn't mean the Dragons weren't found in other locations. I am waiting to see how it is done, if it is done Lore friendly they don't just smash prior lore to do there thing and force fir it in but work with that lore that is already there to fit it in.
Did you miss the Dragons of Cyrodiil by any chance? Or those of Akavir? Atmora? Tell me, why on earth would Dragons - which are a dominating species by nature - settle for such exiled locations when they could have gone far beyond?
No I hadn't forgto but most people don't know of the other dragons closet they have is Skyrim where they see the dragons so most players relate to that itself.
And that is relevant, because? Let me ask you a question, the Redguards are native to Hammerfell. Using your logic, should we be able to see them in other lands? Yes or no?
Technically redgaurds arn't from hammerfell they are actually from Yokuda so no technically. But they have lived for so long that they can be considered from hammerfell, but I know you will come back with some witfully thing screaming this or that instead of just admitting what you did wrong.
Redguards are native to Hammerfell. Yokudans are native to Yokuda. They are not one and the same. It's like saying Atmorans and Nords are one and the same; it's simply false.
Redguards (formerly "Yokudans") hail from the western continent of Yokuda, which sank into the sea in ancient times.
the Yokudan fleet set sail to the east, eventually arriving in what would later be called Hammerfell.
Imperial scholars concluded that the term "Redguard" originated as a phonetic corruption of "Ra Gada"
WOW REDGAURDS ARE NOT FROM HAMMERFELL wow now either admit you are wrong or I report you that simple
[snip]
'' This vanguard "warrior wave" of Yokudans, the Ra Gada, swept into the country, quickly slaughtering and enslaving the beastfolk and Nedic villagers before them, bloodily paving the way for their people who waited at Herne, including the Na-Totambu, their kings and ruling bodies. The fierce Ra Gada became, phonetically, the Redguards, a name that has since spread to designate the Tamrielic-Yokudan race in general.''
From the Pocket Guide to the Empire.
Tamrielic-Yokudan race? Hmm, almost as if they were different. You know, much like the Nords and Atmorans.
[Edit to remove bait.]
Redgaurd isn't native to hammerfell you know your wrong [snip]
[Edit to remove bait.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on April 18, 2019 1:18AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.
No dragon break. However, it is an interesting thought that the 3rd Era dragon break (Warp in the West) may have been more substantial than people who came after it realize. I mean, it was intended to reconcile the ending of Daggerfall, and it is talked about as if it is localized, but maybe it was more widespread.
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baltic1284✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.
No dragon break. However, it is an interesting thought that the 3rd Era dragon break (Warp in the West) may have been more substantial than people who came after it realize. I mean, it was intended to reconcile the ending of Daggerfall, and it is talked about as if it is localized, but maybe it was more widespread.
This is possible from one own view the changes wouldn't be felt but it may have been more widespread than orginally thought.1 -
Bruccius✭✭✭✭✭baltic1284 wrote: »baltic1284 wrote: »baltic1284 wrote: »baltic1284 wrote: »baltic1284 wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »In the Third or Fourth Era, have you ever read about the Planemeld? No? Have you ever read about dragons in Elsweyr? No? Have you ever read about the failings of High Chancellor Abnur Tharn of the Empire under the rule of Valen Aquilarios? No? It's as if someone in a high position very adept at screwing things up while trying to do the right thing for the Empire made these recordings getting lost during the Interregnum. It was troubled times, you know?
ESO Exists in a sort of Paradox. The game literally screams this everywhere if you pay attention to the story.
Uh... Where? Examples?
As with any account of what happens in Elder Scrolls, players are free to create their own interpretations, no matter how crazy.
I do want to point out that the OP is basing this thread on an assumption without having experienced the Elsweyr main quest. I have not experienced it, either. It is under embargo, at the monent. Anyone who does know is not to be talking about it.
We do know that ZOS worked all of this out with Bethesda Game Studios, so whatever we find out is already blessed and canon according to both ZOS and BGS.
As far Lore is concerned the only place that had Dragons thus far was Skyrim, doesn't mean the Dragons weren't found in other locations. I am waiting to see how it is done, if it is done Lore friendly they don't just smash prior lore to do there thing and force fir it in but work with that lore that is already there to fit it in.
Did you miss the Dragons of Cyrodiil by any chance? Or those of Akavir? Atmora? Tell me, why on earth would Dragons - which are a dominating species by nature - settle for such exiled locations when they could have gone far beyond?
No I hadn't forgto but most people don't know of the other dragons closet they have is Skyrim where they see the dragons so most players relate to that itself.
And that is relevant, because? Let me ask you a question, the Redguards are native to Hammerfell. Using your logic, should we be able to see them in other lands? Yes or no?
Technically redgaurds arn't from hammerfell they are actually from Yokuda so no technically. But they have lived for so long that they can be considered from hammerfell, but I know you will come back with some witfully thing screaming this or that instead of just admitting what you did wrong.
Redguards are native to Hammerfell. Yokudans are native to Yokuda. They are not one and the same. It's like saying Atmorans and Nords are one and the same; it's simply false.
Redguards (formerly "Yokudans") hail from the western continent of Yokuda, which sank into the sea in ancient times.
the Yokudan fleet set sail to the east, eventually arriving in what would later be called Hammerfell.
Imperial scholars concluded that the term "Redguard" originated as a phonetic corruption of "Ra Gada"
WOW REDGAURDS ARE NOT FROM HAMMERFELL wow now either admit you are wrong or I report you that simple
[snip]
'' This vanguard "warrior wave" of Yokudans, the Ra Gada, swept into the country, quickly slaughtering and enslaving the beastfolk and Nedic villagers before them, bloodily paving the way for their people who waited at Herne, including the Na-Totambu, their kings and ruling bodies. The fierce Ra Gada became, phonetically, the Redguards, a name that has since spread to designate the Tamrielic-Yokudan race in general.''
From the Pocket Guide to the Empire.
Tamrielic-Yokudan race? Hmm, almost as if they were different. You know, much like the Nords and Atmorans.
[Edit to remove bait.]
Redgaurd isn't native to hammerfell you know your wrong [snip]
[Edit to remove bait.]
So prove it. Even if what you say were true, it's irrelevant in the matter of Dragons.Edited by Bruccius on April 18, 2019 11:43AM1 -
luizhd✭✭✭So prove it. Even if what you say were true, it's irrelevant in the matter of Dragons.
Okay, Redguards are as Native to Hammerfell as Americans are Native of the United States. They are sons and daughters of immigrants and conquerors and the result of miscegenation. They occupy it, but are not the native people of it. The same thing works for Nords. They occupy Skyrim, but they are not native of it.
I know what you`re trying to say, that they are not Yokudans, that they are descendants of that race and you`re technically right. Just as Americans aren`t British or Spanish, Redguards aren`t technically Yokudans. We could argue that them being a very closed society, seeing every other race as inferior to their own, would keep their bloodlines "pure" keeping them as Yokudans as possible, but it would also be silly to assume some of them didn`t mingle with the other races of Tamriel along the years.
I actually don`t know who are the native people of that area. The Ra Gada pushed the Dwemer out of the land, but I highly doubt the Dwemer are native to it either since they themselves are descendants of another race that split into many other. So it was possibly the Aldmer, the first folk.
However none of this makes them native to Hammerfell. Natives are the populations that first occupied lands if we are to follow our own real life understanding of the word.
If it's proof that you wanted, that`s as close to it as you`ll get.Edited by luizhd on April 18, 2019 9:11PM0 -
baltic1284✭✭✭Kingdaboss123 wrote: »What do redguards have too do with dragons?
It did originally did start with Dragons that where all over the place, I proved that wrong to him, then he went on to Regaurds as apart of Hammerfell and proved that wrong also waiting for his next claim. According to what I read Dragons are from Akavir translated according to some sources as Dragonland. There where some reports that Tiber Septim had made peace with the Dragons and even used some but not much on that, there was also little to no reports even in game lore that I can find for now still looking in game of Dragons outside Skyrim.0 -
Bruccius✭✭✭✭✭baltic1284 wrote: »Kingdaboss123 wrote: »What do redguards have too do with dragons?
It did originally did start with Dragons that where all over the place, I proved that wrong to him, then he went on to Regaurds as apart of Hammerfell and proved that wrong also waiting for his next claim. According to what I read Dragons are from Akavir translated according to some sources as Dragonland. There where some reports that Tiber Septim had made peace with the Dragons and even used some but not much on that, there was also little to no reports even in game lore that I can find for now still looking in game of Dragons outside Skyrim.
You didn't really prove that wrong, though. Just because there's no mention of it doesn't make it invalid. Dragons were noted as having been in Cyrodiil during the Second Era (Pocket Guide to the Empire), as a prime example. Them being in Elsweyr does not break lore.
Hell, even the whole ''Dragons are in Skyrim'' thing was only added through the events of TES V. How come you're not upset over that?0 -
Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Actually it is lore friendly. Like the others have explained above. Plus don't forget that ESO happens during a Dragon Break.@ Izaki #PCEU
#FrenchKiss #GoneFor2YearsAndMyGuildDoesn'tRaidAnymore
#MoreDPSthanYou
#Stamblade0 -
Claudman✭✭✭✭✭Actually it is lore friendly. Like the others have explained above. Plus don't forget that ESO happens during a Dragon Break.
Please stop spreading this lie.Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.3 -
baltic1284✭✭✭Actually it is lore friendly. Like the others have explained above. Plus don't forget that ESO happens during a Dragon Break.
Warp in the west is the closet you get and that happened in the 3rd Era well after the second 2nd Era and the only Dragon Break that happened was in Skyrim and in the Merethic Era according to some sources0 -
baltic1284✭✭✭baltic1284 wrote: »Kingdaboss123 wrote: »What do redguards have too do with dragons?
It did originally did start with Dragons that where all over the place, I proved that wrong to him, then he went on to Regaurds as apart of Hammerfell and proved that wrong also waiting for his next claim. According to what I read Dragons are from Akavir translated according to some sources as Dragonland. There where some reports that Tiber Septim had made peace with the Dragons and even used some but not much on that, there was also little to no reports even in game lore that I can find for now still looking in game of Dragons outside Skyrim.
You didn't really prove that wrong, though. Just because there's no mention of it doesn't make it invalid. Dragons were noted as having been in Cyrodiil during the Second Era (Pocket Guide to the Empire), as a prime example. Them being in Elsweyr does not break lore.
Hell, even the whole ''Dragons are in Skyrim'' thing was only added through the events of TES V. How come you're not upset over that?
Many sources actually conflict you more conflict you then support you, There was reports of Dragons in Curodiil but no confirmed ones, There reports that Tiber Septim had made peace with Dragons but nothing confirmed reports. Even the fact that Tiber Septim came from Skyrim was Reports just as many say he was a Breton. SO till there is game that says yes there was or official person says pother Michael Kirckbright then we can talk. Many of the books in game conflict with one another.0 -
Bruccius✭✭✭✭✭baltic1284 wrote: »baltic1284 wrote: »Kingdaboss123 wrote: »What do redguards have too do with dragons?
It did originally did start with Dragons that where all over the place, I proved that wrong to him, then he went on to Regaurds as apart of Hammerfell and proved that wrong also waiting for his next claim. According to what I read Dragons are from Akavir translated according to some sources as Dragonland. There where some reports that Tiber Septim had made peace with the Dragons and even used some but not much on that, there was also little to no reports even in game lore that I can find for now still looking in game of Dragons outside Skyrim.
You didn't really prove that wrong, though. Just because there's no mention of it doesn't make it invalid. Dragons were noted as having been in Cyrodiil during the Second Era (Pocket Guide to the Empire), as a prime example. Them being in Elsweyr does not break lore.
Hell, even the whole ''Dragons are in Skyrim'' thing was only added through the events of TES V. How come you're not upset over that?
Many sources actually conflict you more conflict you then support you, There was reports of Dragons in Curodiil but no confirmed ones, There reports that Tiber Septim had made peace with Dragons but nothing confirmed reports. Even the fact that Tiber Septim came from Skyrim was Reports just as many say he was a Breton. SO till there is game that says yes there was or official person says pother Michael Kirckbright then we can talk. Many of the books in game conflict with one another.
''But not confirmed ones''
Tiber Septim himself used Dragons in his army... Tiber Septim came from High Rock; read Holidays of the Iliac Bay, the Arcturian Heresy, or speak to the Ghost of Old Hroldan. Him beign from Skyrim is by far the least supported claim.
I'd like you to provide evidence of pre-Skyrim sources mentioning Dragons in Skyrim.0 -
baltic1284✭✭✭In game soyrces you like to use
Where were you when the Dragon Broke?
The Dragon Break Reexamined
Atlas of Dragons
Fan site it came from
https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)
UESP that you dismiss that has better information
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons
Those are just a few book sources are also included just in case you decide not to use the links and and read.
The Dragon War https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Dragon_War
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:There_Be_Dragons mention of the Dragon war and other information.
From the fan site book sources
https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Where_were_you_when_the_Dragon_Broke? book is also found in ESO hacnt found its location yet though
ATlas of Dragons found in Skyrim Sky Haven Temple https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Atlas_of_Dragons
Shows the death of the Dragons around Skyrim many in the Merethic Era of the Dragons War some in the first Era and Early Second Era0 -
AuraNebula✭✭✭✭✭Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.
That doesn't even make a lick of sense. Nothing in ESO implies even a bit that a Dragon Break is taking place.
Really 3 factions fighting for control of Tamriel isn't going to be considered a dragon break? Who's going to win? Is no one going to win? Are all 3 going to win? With a dragon break all that is possible.Edited by AuraNebula on April 19, 2019 7:31PM0 -
ManwithBeard9✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.
That doesn't even make a lick of sense. Nothing in ESO implies even a bit that a Dragon Break is taking place.
Really 3 factions fighting for control of Tamriel isn't going to be considered a dragon break? Who's going to win? Is no one going to win? Are all 3 going to win, with a dragon break all that is possible.
Is doesn't matter who wins or loses because none of them can light the dragonfires. And that's why there is little recorded history from this time. There's so much war and strife that history doesn't have time to be recorded.6 -
DKMaestro✭✭✭I just have one question. Are neromancers able/supposed to be able to resurrect dragons?Old man playing. Have a life, a job and only one character, which is grumpy (all the time)0 -
AuraNebula✭✭✭✭✭.ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.
That doesn't even make a lick of sense. Nothing in ESO implies even a bit that a Dragon Break is taking place.
Really 3 factions fighting for control of Tamriel isn't going to be considered a dragon break? Who's going to win? Is no one going to win? Are all 3 going to win, with a dragon break all that is possible.
Is doesn't matter who wins or loses because none of them can light the dragonfires. And that's why there is little recorded history from this time. There's so much war and strife that history doesn't have time to be recorded.
There is always time for things to be recorded, if what your saying was true, then nothing would be recorded ever. Maybe the reason there's so much unknown about the 2nd era is because there was a dragon break.1 -
baltic1284✭✭✭I just have one question. Are neromancers able/supposed to be able to resurrect dragons?
From what I found Lore wise is hit or miss I have to say no as Dragons according to Lore are made from Akatosh Dragon of time and so are immortal they can be killed but there spirit just goes to there version of heaven I have to say and wait to be reborn. Alduin wasn't resurrecting the Dragons I have to say but giving there spirit back to theme to do his bidding as was before they where slain. The only person that can kill a Dragon is the Dragonborn and he or she does that threw absorbing there spirit so it can be used to be reborn again.
So a Necromancer cant bring a Dragon back up as they don't have the spirit to do it, but again that is so far things can change as time goes on.0 -
baltic1284✭✭✭Princessrhaenyra wrote: ».ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.
That doesn't even make a lick of sense. Nothing in ESO implies even a bit that a Dragon Break is taking place.
Really 3 factions fighting for control of Tamriel isn't going to be considered a dragon break? Who's going to win? Is no one going to win? Are all 3 going to win, with a dragon break all that is possible.
Is doesn't matter who wins or loses because none of them can light the dragonfires. And that's why there is little recorded history from this time. There's so much war and strife that history doesn't have time to be recorded.
There is always time for things to be recorded, if what your saying was true, then nothing would be recorded ever. Maybe the reason there's so much unknown about the 2nd era is because there was a dragon break.
Both have a point look what happened durig the Second World war a lot of history happened that wasn't recorded very well and is just starting to come to light same could have appened during the second wasn't that history wasn't recorded but wasn't recorded very well. Also the Warp in the West could play a major role in future events happening. Also in Game and even on Lore sites there isn't a lot on the Second Era, don't get me wrong there is information out there but not a lot of it.0 -
Claudman✭✭✭✭✭Princessrhaenyra wrote: ».ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.
That doesn't even make a lick of sense. Nothing in ESO implies even a bit that a Dragon Break is taking place.
Really 3 factions fighting for control of Tamriel isn't going to be considered a dragon break? Who's going to win? Is no one going to win? Are all 3 going to win, with a dragon break all that is possible.
Is doesn't matter who wins or loses because none of them can light the dragonfires. And that's why there is little recorded history from this time. There's so much war and strife that history doesn't have time to be recorded.
There is always time for things to be recorded, if what your saying was true, then nothing would be recorded ever. Maybe the reason there's so much unknown about the 2nd era is because there was a dragon break.
Or the history was just not recorded...
There are a lot of things which get lost to history, even in real life.
I don't get why everything has to be so big and metaphysical. Metaphysics and magic are apart of the TES universe, but not all the time...Sometimes the answer is simple and not convoluted metaphysics.Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.0 -
AuraNebula✭✭✭✭✭Princessrhaenyra wrote: ».ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.
That doesn't even make a lick of sense. Nothing in ESO implies even a bit that a Dragon Break is taking place.
Really 3 factions fighting for control of Tamriel isn't going to be considered a dragon break? Who's going to win? Is no one going to win? Are all 3 going to win, with a dragon break all that is possible.
Is doesn't matter who wins or loses because none of them can light the dragonfires. And that's why there is little recorded history from this time. There's so much war and strife that history doesn't have time to be recorded.
There is always time for things to be recorded, if what your saying was true, then nothing would be recorded ever. Maybe the reason there's so much unknown about the 2nd era is because there was a dragon break.
Or the history was just not recorded...
There are a lot of things which get lost to history, even in real life.
I don't get why everything has to be so big and metaphysical. Metaphysics and magic are apart of the TES universe, but not all the time...Sometimes the answer is simple and not convoluted metaphysics.
With how big this game is, with all the dlc and chapters writing it off as it was just lost, is pretty lazy imo. We might as well just write everything off, all the Skyrim civil war too. It shouldn't have been recorded either. We'll just have empty games.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Princessrhaenyra wrote: »Pretty sure the lore will just write it off as a dragon break. Actually this whole game could then be considered a dragon break.
That doesn't even make a lick of sense. Nothing in ESO implies even a bit that a Dragon Break is taking place.
Really 3 factions fighting for control of Tamriel isn't going to be considered a dragon break? Who's going to win? Is no one going to win? Are all 3 going to win? With a dragon break all that is possible.
Who says anyone wins? When Tiber Septim shows up, all of this gets resolved.Princessrhaenyra wrote: »With how big this game is, with all the dlc and chapters writing it off as it was just lost, is pretty lazy imo.
ESO is placed at this time in Elder Scrolls history for that reason. BGS never bothered to write any detailed history. They had no reason to do so. Since we are not in a dragon break, ESO exists in the Elder Scrolls history, and ZOS is writing it.
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