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Unplayble ELder Scrolls Online for Pacfic Players Partiuclarly AU/NZ/Japan 300 MS +

  • Hiruda
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    i have like 50MS,
    Kane_Hart wrote: »
    I don't even know why we have a NA/EU server if they are all the same. Merge them up would be awesome.

    Im pretty sure this bs
    Im EU player and i have 30-40ms on EU server and 200-300 when i log on NA
  • zergbase_ESO
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    New gaming meta is for profit service games. ZoS will not give you guys a dedicated server due to costs I bet. Sucks but I can see why. Doesn't mean I agree with practice. I always think if you offer game for a foreign country should be able support and have servers for them.
  • CJduthierwb17_ESO
    Hiruda wrote: »
    Kane_Hart wrote: »
    I don't even know why we have a NA/EU server if they are all the same. Merge them up would be awesome.

    Im pretty sure this bs
    Im EU player and i have 30-40ms on EU server and 200-300 when i log on NA

    [/quote]

    If it is BS then maybe showing screen proof, will illustrate that myself and others in the pacfici are not speaking BS and this is an legitmate issue that continues to occur on a daily basis 400+ people besides myself have signed it and it will continue to grow. https://imgur.com/gallery/N893q23
    Edited by CJduthierwb17_ESO on March 6, 2019 12:05AM
  • Itzmichi
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    360 supporters are laughable, no sane company would host a server for that amount. If you get it up to a couple of million I'd say there is hope, but I don't see that happening as AU/NZ/Asia sadly just are an minority.

    Edit: and even if they would agree to that, what about your progress and your inventory / achievements /characters they can't even transfer from 1 server to another so I highly doubt there would be a satisfying solution. So starting all over again would be the possible consequence, is that worth it?
    Edited by Itzmichi on March 6, 2019 12:23AM
    Here, have a chill pill 💊!
  • CJduthierwb17_ESO
    Itsmichi wrote: »

    360 supporters are laughable, no sane company would host a server for that amount. If you get it up to a couple of million I'd say there is hope, but I don't see that happening as AU/NZ/Asia sadly just are a minority.

    thats because not many people from the pacific are talking about it/ aware of it trying to raise awareness when a lot dobut that it is ZOS indicates a current issue of perception "its your kit not theirs" seems to be an ongoing pattern makes this quite challnging to do.
  • Acrolas
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    ZOS won't create geographic shards for players outside the current server reaches, not only because the megaserver approach wasn't designed for it, but because it would lead to a precedent for players to ask for the fragmentation of the existing megaservers into geographic shards.

    Business decisions have to factor in all the consequences.
    signing off
  • CJduthierwb17_ESO
    Acrolas wrote: »
    ZOS won't create geographic shards for players outside the current server reaches, not only because the mega server approach wasn't designed for it, but because it would lead to a precedent for players to ask for the fragmentation of the existing mega servers into geographic shards.

    Business decisions have to factor in all the consequences.

    Its nothing to do if they won't/do/should/should not as it currently stands the simple fact remains that if free games are able to invest in Servers to cover multiple regions why is Zos still trying to justify a 15$ fee which is associated with maintenance and ongoing support if they will not take these issues seriously. If even games Like, Fornite, Black Desert Online, Hearthstone, Diablo and overwatch (which make far less income than this in comparison) should indicate to you the stance that the company is taking here is unjustified and not focused on an equality stance, but instead on a "cut the costs stance". thus the need for the petition in the first place to raise awareness and challenge their stance on this.
  • Jameliel
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    Part of the reason I cancelled sub and hardly login anymore. It's the only MMO this bad. Some of the MMOs I played the most are: UO, EQ, DDO, Vanguard Saga of Heroes, Lineage, LotR, Neverwinter, Age of Conan. ESO sticks out like a sore thumb for it's horrible latency and performance issues. Not a single other MMO performed/performs this badly. I dont know what they need to do with their servers,but they need to do something.
  • idk
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    Jayman1000 wrote: »
    The "spike" in oceanic players probably need to be even more spiky to make it worth their while. Alternatively if oceanic players were willing to spend far more cash on the game, maybe that would warrant an oceanic server too. It all comes down to le profit.

    Pretty much comes down to this. The logic is sound and irrefutable. This is a business.
  • russelmmendoza
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    Yeah, I played warframe, gta5, mgs5 online, cod, battlefield, apex they dont lag like eso.

    There is definitely a problem on their server.

  • CJduthierwb17_ESO
    idk wrote: »
    Jayman1000 wrote: »
    The "spike" in oceanic players probably need to be even more spiky to make it worth their while. Alternatively if oceanic players were willing to spend far more cash on the game, maybe that would warrant an oceanic server too. It all comes down to le profit.

    Pretty much comes down to this. The logic is sound and irrefutable. This is a business.

    What is busniess sense is to get money from more people who want to support a game listening to their coustomers not people leaving in droves because of the ongoing ignornace/choice? to percive that the pacific reigon is not worth the investment imagine saying to BDO and DIablo you guys are in the pacific you have to pay 400 each to support the server per month it just would never happen, the company is taking a stubborn apporach in perciving that the issue is distance, not about an solution such as contact out services to support multiple enviroments (such as azure/ Amazon web services) to cover the pacific reigon. continuing to think this makes sense is crazy to me.
  • Itzmichi
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    Guys For NZ/Au players should really stand up and start petitioning for an AU/Pacific Server the game is completely unplayable I have tried thrice to get support to assist, so much as providing incredibly detailed Support Troubleshooting from changing even the hops that NZ uses to modifying the cable literally I have tried it all.

    300 MS is not playable and no matter how ZOS tris to explain themselves for this they have 0 excuses, Every single other game in this space Such as Black Desert Online, world of warcraft, Fornite all do not have this issue, yet the infrastructure at ZOS seems incapable of supporting players in the Pacific

    "saying its within the expected range" is inexcusable, closing the support thread, even more so it seems like ZOS wants money from its players without even providing the cake and that should be condoned by all.

    I won't support a thieving company like Zenimax if it refuses to even acknowledge the issues surrounding your pathetic excuse of infrastructure, improve it and start seriously taking support requests more seriously.

    /Discuss
    [img]<a href="https://ibb.co/tq14NnC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/tq14NnC/Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS.jpg&quot; alt="Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS" border="0"></a>[/img]

    You know, actually I kinda like your strong feeling about it, so I thought I give you another answer regarding this matter.

    If you really feel that strongly you should make this whole thing big. Use the social media we have available, create groups, advertise your petition, do a proper research and make it so that this has actually and impact. The forums are most likely not the best way to reach out to other people who are facing the same problems you have.

    Get data, do a calculation, get references and see if it's actually beneficial financially for Zos to do something like that. Without any data or reliable resources you won't get the attention you maybe deserve.

    @russelmmendoza is the Asia guy always complaining and even playing on console so you might can work together try to involve the other people posting here.

    Together you might achieve something but someone has to take care of it, otherwise it's just for naught.
    Here, have a chill pill 💊!
  • russelmmendoza
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    Itsmichi wrote: »
    Guys For NZ/Au players should really stand up and start petitioning for an AU/Pacific Server the game is completely unplayable I have tried thrice to get support to assist, so much as providing incredibly detailed Support Troubleshooting from changing even the hops that NZ uses to modifying the cable literally I have tried it all.

    300 MS is not playable and no matter how ZOS tris to explain themselves for this they have 0 excuses, Every single other game in this space Such as Black Desert Online, world of warcraft, Fornite all do not have this issue, yet the infrastructure at ZOS seems incapable of supporting players in the Pacific

    "saying its within the expected range" is inexcusable, closing the support thread, even more so it seems like ZOS wants money from its players without even providing the cake and that should be condoned by all.

    I won't support a thieving company like Zenimax if it refuses to even acknowledge the issues surrounding your pathetic excuse of infrastructure, improve it and start seriously taking support requests more seriously.

    /Discuss
    [img]<a href="https://ibb.co/tq14NnC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/tq14NnC/Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS.jpg&quot; alt="Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS" border="0"></a>[/img]

    You know, actually I kinda like your strong feeling about it, so I thought I give you another answer regarding this matter.

    If you really feel that strongly you should make this whole thing big. Use the social media we have available, create groups, advertise your petition, do a proper research and make it so that this has actually and impact. The forums are most likely not the best way to reach out to other people who are facing the same problems you have.

    Get data, do a calculation, get references and see if it's actually beneficial financially for Zos to do something like that. Without any data or reliable resources you won't get the attention you maybe deserve.

    @russelmmendoza is the Asia guy always complaining and even playing on console so you might can work together try to involve the other people posting here.

    Together you might achieve something but someone has to take care of it, otherwise it's just for naught.

    I am not trying to achieve anything, just saying.

    It is what it is, cant do much about it.

    I already accepted my horrendous situation.

    Just trying to have fun playing this game.
  • CJduthierwb17_ESO
    Itsmichi wrote: »
    Guys For NZ/Au players should really stand up and start petitioning for an AU/Pacific Server the game is completely unplayable I have tried thrice to get support to assist, so much as providing incredibly detailed Support Troubleshooting from changing even the hops that NZ uses to modifying the cable literally I have tried it all.

    300 MS is not playable and no matter how ZOS tris to explain themselves for this they have 0 excuses, Every single other game in this space Such as Black Desert Online, world of warcraft, Fornite all do not have this issue, yet the infrastructure at ZOS seems incapable of supporting players in the Pacific

    "saying its within the expected range" is inexcusable, closing the support thread, even more so it seems like ZOS wants money from its players without even providing the cake and that should be condoned by all.

    I won't support a thieving company like Zenimax if it refuses to even acknowledge the issues surrounding your pathetic excuse of infrastructure, improve it and start seriously taking support requests more seriously.

    /Discuss
    [img]<a href="https://ibb.co/tq14NnC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/tq14NnC/Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS.jpg&quot; alt="Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS" border="0"></a>[/img]

    You know, actually I kinda like your strong feeling about it, so I thought I give you another answer regarding this matter.

    If you really feel that strongly you should make this whole thing big. Use the social media we have available, create groups, advertise your petition, do a proper research and make it so that this has actually and impact. The forums are most likely not the best way to reach out to other people who are facing the same problems you have.

    Get data, do a calculation, get references and see if it's actually beneficial financially for Zos to do something like that. Without any data or reliable resources you won't get the attention you maybe deserve.

    @russelmmendoza is the Asia guy always complaining and even playing on console so you might can work together try to involve the other people posting here.

    Together you might achieve something but someone has to take care of it, otherwise it's just for naught.

    I am not trying to achieve anything, just saying.

    It is what it is, cant do much about it.

    I already accepted my horrendous situation.

    Just trying to have fun playing this game.

    But why accept it, when their are other players out there with the same issue. I get the hesitancy but this will only change by taking action
  • Numerikuu
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    Kane_Hart wrote: »
    I don't even know why we have a NA/EU server if they are all the same. Merge them up would be awesome.

    Then everyone can have bag ping! Wheeeeeeeeeee!!
  • CJduthierwb17_ESO
    Numerikuu wrote: »
    Kane_Hart wrote: »
    I don't even know why we have a NA/EU server if they are all the same. Merge them up would be awesome.

    Then everyone can have bag ping! Wheeeeeeeeeee!!

    Not necessarily more bandwidth available instead of split across 2, actually I would consider this a better solution than zos taking no action at all, as then everyone would be close to a fairer playing field in latency
  • russelmmendoza
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    Itsmichi wrote: »
    Guys For NZ/Au players should really stand up and start petitioning for an AU/Pacific Server the game is completely unplayable I have tried thrice to get support to assist, so much as providing incredibly detailed Support Troubleshooting from changing even the hops that NZ uses to modifying the cable literally I have tried it all.

    300 MS is not playable and no matter how ZOS tris to explain themselves for this they have 0 excuses, Every single other game in this space Such as Black Desert Online, world of warcraft, Fornite all do not have this issue, yet the infrastructure at ZOS seems incapable of supporting players in the Pacific

    "saying its within the expected range" is inexcusable, closing the support thread, even more so it seems like ZOS wants money from its players without even providing the cake and that should be condoned by all.

    I won't support a thieving company like Zenimax if it refuses to even acknowledge the issues surrounding your pathetic excuse of infrastructure, improve it and start seriously taking support requests more seriously.

    /Discuss
    [img]<a href="https://ibb.co/tq14NnC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/tq14NnC/Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS.jpg&quot; alt="Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS" border="0"></a>[/img]

    You know, actually I kinda like your strong feeling about it, so I thought I give you another answer regarding this matter.

    If you really feel that strongly you should make this whole thing big. Use the social media we have available, create groups, advertise your petition, do a proper research and make it so that this has actually and impact. The forums are most likely not the best way to reach out to other people who are facing the same problems you have.

    Get data, do a calculation, get references and see if it's actually beneficial financially for Zos to do something like that. Without any data or reliable resources you won't get the attention you maybe deserve.

    @russelmmendoza is the Asia guy always complaining and even playing on console so you might can work together try to involve the other people posting here.

    Together you might achieve something but someone has to take care of it, otherwise it's just for naught.

    I am not trying to achieve anything, just saying.

    It is what it is, cant do much about it.

    I already accepted my horrendous situation.

    Just trying to have fun playing this game.

    But why accept it, when their are other players out there with the same issue. I get the hesitancy but this will only change by taking action

    Its been a long standing issue, accept it and move on.
    I really thought the problem was on my side of things.
    15mbps dsl connections, live in asia, etc, etc.
    But hearing japan have the same problem, whelp, no helping asian players then.
    I mean, japan is a technology advance country.
    If their having technical difficulty, I rest my case.
  • CJduthierwb17_ESO
    Itsmichi wrote: »
    Guys For NZ/Au players should really stand up and start petitioning for an AU/Pacific Server the game is completely unplayable I have tried thrice to get support to assist, so much as providing incredibly detailed Support Troubleshooting from changing even the hops that NZ uses to modifying the cable literally I have tried it all.

    300 MS is not playable and no matter how ZOS tris to explain themselves for this they have 0 excuses, Every single other game in this space Such as Black Desert Online, world of warcraft, Fornite all do not have this issue, yet the infrastructure at ZOS seems incapable of supporting players in the Pacific

    "saying its within the expected range" is inexcusable, closing the support thread, even more so it seems like ZOS wants money from its players without even providing the cake and that should be condoned by all.

    I won't support a thieving company like Zenimax if it refuses to even acknowledge the issues surrounding your pathetic excuse of infrastructure, improve it and start seriously taking support requests more seriously.

    /Discuss
    [img]<a href="https://ibb.co/tq14NnC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/tq14NnC/Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS.jpg&quot; alt="Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS" border="0"></a>[/img]

    You know, actually I kinda like your strong feeling about it, so I thought I give you another answer regarding this matter.

    If you really feel that strongly you should make this whole thing big. Use the social media we have available, create groups, advertise your petition, do a proper research and make it so that this has actually and impact. The forums are most likely not the best way to reach out to other people who are facing the same problems you have.

    Get data, do a calculation, get references and see if it's actually beneficial financially for Zos to do something like that. Without any data or reliable resources you won't get the attention you maybe deserve.

    @russelmmendoza is the Asia guy always complaining and even playing on console so you might can work together try to involve the other people posting here.

    Together you might achieve something but someone has to take care of it, otherwise it's just for naught.

    I am not trying to achieve anything, just saying.

    It is what it is, cant do much about it.

    I already accepted my horrendous situation.

    Just trying to have fun playing this game.

    But why accept it, when their are other players out there with the same issue. I get the hesitancy but this will only change by taking action

    Its been a long standing issue, accept it and move on.
    I really thought the problem was on my side of things.
    15mbps dsl connections, live in asia, etc, etc.
    But hearing japan have the same problem, whelp, no helping asian players then.
    I mean, japan is a technology advance country.
    If their having technical difficulty, I rest my case.

    Highlting that it's a long standing issue only furthers the notion of zos changing their denial no change stance, if people pay money should it not be a playable? If I knew that when I first got the game I would have refunded it because for Pacific players the game is not fit for use, if free games can achieve it and not charge extra should zos therefore change their stance is the real question?
  • russelmmendoza
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    Itsmichi wrote: »
    Guys For NZ/Au players should really stand up and start petitioning for an AU/Pacific Server the game is completely unplayable I have tried thrice to get support to assist, so much as providing incredibly detailed Support Troubleshooting from changing even the hops that NZ uses to modifying the cable literally I have tried it all.

    300 MS is not playable and no matter how ZOS tris to explain themselves for this they have 0 excuses, Every single other game in this space Such as Black Desert Online, world of warcraft, Fornite all do not have this issue, yet the infrastructure at ZOS seems incapable of supporting players in the Pacific

    "saying its within the expected range" is inexcusable, closing the support thread, even more so it seems like ZOS wants money from its players without even providing the cake and that should be condoned by all.

    I won't support a thieving company like Zenimax if it refuses to even acknowledge the issues surrounding your pathetic excuse of infrastructure, improve it and start seriously taking support requests more seriously.

    /Discuss
    [img]<a href="https://ibb.co/tq14NnC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/tq14NnC/Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS.jpg&quot; alt="Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS" border="0"></a>[/img]

    You know, actually I kinda like your strong feeling about it, so I thought I give you another answer regarding this matter.

    If you really feel that strongly you should make this whole thing big. Use the social media we have available, create groups, advertise your petition, do a proper research and make it so that this has actually and impact. The forums are most likely not the best way to reach out to other people who are facing the same problems you have.

    Get data, do a calculation, get references and see if it's actually beneficial financially for Zos to do something like that. Without any data or reliable resources you won't get the attention you maybe deserve.

    @russelmmendoza is the Asia guy always complaining and even playing on console so you might can work together try to involve the other people posting here.

    Together you might achieve something but someone has to take care of it, otherwise it's just for naught.

    I am not trying to achieve anything, just saying.

    It is what it is, cant do much about it.

    I already accepted my horrendous situation.

    Just trying to have fun playing this game.

    But why accept it, when their are other players out there with the same issue. I get the hesitancy but this will only change by taking action

    Its been a long standing issue, accept it and move on.
    I really thought the problem was on my side of things.
    15mbps dsl connections, live in asia, etc, etc.
    But hearing japan have the same problem, whelp, no helping asian players then.
    I mean, japan is a technology advance country.
    If their having technical difficulty, I rest my case.

    Highlting that it's a long standing issue only furthers the notion of zos changing their denial no change stance, if people pay money should it not be a playable? If I knew that when I first got the game I would have refunded it because for Pacific players the game is not fit for use, if free games can achieve it and not charge extra should zos therefore change their stance is the real question?

    Thing is, I like the game so much, I would actually say, I LOVE THIS GAME.

    As for the issue, I have played this game for so long, I have already gotten use to my 250-300 ping.

    I love it in my ps4, I love it in my pc.
  • CJduthierwb17_ESO
    Itsmichi wrote: »
    Guys For NZ/Au players should really stand up and start petitioning for an AU/Pacific Server the game is completely unplayable I have tried thrice to get support to assist, so much as providing incredibly detailed Support Troubleshooting from changing even the hops that NZ uses to modifying the cable literally I have tried it all.

    300 MS is not playable and no matter how ZOS tris to explain themselves for this they have 0 excuses, Every single other game in this space Such as Black Desert Online, world of warcraft, Fornite all do not have this issue, yet the infrastructure at ZOS seems incapable of supporting players in the Pacific

    "saying its within the expected range" is inexcusable, closing the support thread, even more so it seems like ZOS wants money from its players without even providing the cake and that should be condoned by all.

    I won't support a thieving company like Zenimax if it refuses to even acknowledge the issues surrounding your pathetic excuse of infrastructure, improve it and start seriously taking support requests more seriously.

    /Discuss
    [img]<a href="https://ibb.co/tq14NnC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/tq14NnC/Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS.jpg&quot; alt="Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS" border="0"></a>[/img]

    You know, actually I kinda like your strong feeling about it, so I thought I give you another answer regarding this matter.

    If you really feel that strongly you should make this whole thing big. Use the social media we have available, create groups, advertise your petition, do a proper research and make it so that this has actually and impact. The forums are most likely not the best way to reach out to other people who are facing the same problems you have.

    Get data, do a calculation, get references and see if it's actually beneficial financially for Zos to do something like that. Without any data or reliable resources you won't get the attention you maybe deserve.

    @russelmmendoza is the Asia guy always complaining and even playing on console so you might can work together try to involve the other people posting here.

    Together you might achieve something but someone has to take care of it, otherwise it's just for naught.

    I am not trying to achieve anything, just saying.

    It is what it is, cant do much about it.

    I already accepted my horrendous situation.

    Just trying to have fun playing this game.

    But why accept it, when their are other players out there with the same issue. I get the hesitancy but this will only change by taking action

    Its been a long standing issue, accept it and move on.
    I really thought the problem was on my side of things.
    15mbps dsl connections, live in asia, etc, etc.
    But hearing japan have the same problem, whelp, no helping asian players then.
    I mean, japan is a technology advance country.
    If their having technical difficulty, I rest my case.

    Highlting that it's a long standing issue only furthers the notion of zos changing their denial no change stance, if people pay money should it not be a playable? If I knew that when I first got the game I would have refunded it because for Pacific players the game is not fit for use, if free games can achieve it and not charge extra should zos therefore change their stance is the real question?

    Thing is, I like the game so much, I would actually say, I LOVE THIS GAME.

    As for the issue, I have played this game for so long, I have already gotten use to my 250-300 ping.

    I love it in my ps4, I love it in my pc.

    I cant "see how someone could love something" that should not be occurring in the first place, to use passive avoidance of the issue only gives ground to the developers that what they are doing is acceptable when the reality is the exact opposite this should not happen for a paid game, and then expect continued support when they are not using the resources for proper maintenance and support of the product they are selling internationally still your response highlights an interesting view and that I can respect.
  • russelmmendoza
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    Itsmichi wrote: »
    Guys For NZ/Au players should really stand up and start petitioning for an AU/Pacific Server the game is completely unplayable I have tried thrice to get support to assist, so much as providing incredibly detailed Support Troubleshooting from changing even the hops that NZ uses to modifying the cable literally I have tried it all.

    300 MS is not playable and no matter how ZOS tris to explain themselves for this they have 0 excuses, Every single other game in this space Such as Black Desert Online, world of warcraft, Fornite all do not have this issue, yet the infrastructure at ZOS seems incapable of supporting players in the Pacific

    "saying its within the expected range" is inexcusable, closing the support thread, even more so it seems like ZOS wants money from its players without even providing the cake and that should be condoned by all.

    I won't support a thieving company like Zenimax if it refuses to even acknowledge the issues surrounding your pathetic excuse of infrastructure, improve it and start seriously taking support requests more seriously.

    /Discuss
    [img]<a href="https://ibb.co/tq14NnC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/tq14NnC/Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS.jpg&quot; alt="Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS" border="0"></a>[/img]

    You know, actually I kinda like your strong feeling about it, so I thought I give you another answer regarding this matter.

    If you really feel that strongly you should make this whole thing big. Use the social media we have available, create groups, advertise your petition, do a proper research and make it so that this has actually and impact. The forums are most likely not the best way to reach out to other people who are facing the same problems you have.

    Get data, do a calculation, get references and see if it's actually beneficial financially for Zos to do something like that. Without any data or reliable resources you won't get the attention you maybe deserve.

    @russelmmendoza is the Asia guy always complaining and even playing on console so you might can work together try to involve the other people posting here.

    Together you might achieve something but someone has to take care of it, otherwise it's just for naught.

    I am not trying to achieve anything, just saying.

    It is what it is, cant do much about it.

    I already accepted my horrendous situation.

    Just trying to have fun playing this game.

    But why accept it, when their are other players out there with the same issue. I get the hesitancy but this will only change by taking action

    Its been a long standing issue, accept it and move on.
    I really thought the problem was on my side of things.
    15mbps dsl connections, live in asia, etc, etc.
    But hearing japan have the same problem, whelp, no helping asian players then.
    I mean, japan is a technology advance country.
    If their having technical difficulty, I rest my case.

    Highlting that it's a long standing issue only furthers the notion of zos changing their denial no change stance, if people pay money should it not be a playable? If I knew that when I first got the game I would have refunded it because for Pacific players the game is not fit for use, if free games can achieve it and not charge extra should zos therefore change their stance is the real question?

    Thing is, I like the game so much, I would actually say, I LOVE THIS GAME.

    As for the issue, I have played this game for so long, I have already gotten use to my 250-300 ping.

    I love it in my ps4, I love it in my pc.

    I cant "see how someone could love something" that should not be occurring in the first place, to use passive avoidance of the issue only gives ground to the developers that what they are doing is acceptable when the reality is the exact opposite this should not happen for a paid game, and then expect continued support when they are not using the resources for proper maintenance and support of the product they are selling internationally still your response highlights an interesting view and that I can respect.

    Its occuring all the time for me.
    The lag, the high ping, the dc.
    I love it so much, I ignored those thing.

    Thats how much I love the game.
    I take all the good parts with the bad parts.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Itsmichi wrote: »
    Guys For NZ/Au players should really stand up and start petitioning for an AU/Pacific Server the game is completely unplayable I have tried thrice to get support to assist, so much as providing incredibly detailed Support Troubleshooting from changing even the hops that NZ uses to modifying the cable literally I have tried it all.

    300 MS is not playable and no matter how ZOS tris to explain themselves for this they have 0 excuses, Every single other game in this space Such as Black Desert Online, world of warcraft, Fornite all do not have this issue, yet the infrastructure at ZOS seems incapable of supporting players in the Pacific

    "saying its within the expected range" is inexcusable, closing the support thread, even more so it seems like ZOS wants money from its players without even providing the cake and that should be condoned by all.

    I won't support a thieving company like Zenimax if it refuses to even acknowledge the issues surrounding your pathetic excuse of infrastructure, improve it and start seriously taking support requests more seriously.

    /Discuss
    [img]<a href="https://ibb.co/tq14NnC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/tq14NnC/Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS.jpg&quot; alt="Proof-Of-Support-Conovo-ZOS" border="0"></a>[/img]

    You know, actually I kinda like your strong feeling about it, so I thought I give you another answer regarding this matter.

    If you really feel that strongly you should make this whole thing big. Use the social media we have available, create groups, advertise your petition, do a proper research and make it so that this has actually and impact. The forums are most likely not the best way to reach out to other people who are facing the same problems you have.

    Get data, do a calculation, get references and see if it's actually beneficial financially for Zos to do something like that. Without any data or reliable resources you won't get the attention you maybe deserve.

    @russelmmendoza is the Asia guy always complaining and even playing on console so you might can work together try to involve the other people posting here.

    Together you might achieve something but someone has to take care of it, otherwise it's just for naught.

    I am not trying to achieve anything, just saying.

    It is what it is, cant do much about it.

    I already accepted my horrendous situation.

    Just trying to have fun playing this game.

    But why accept it, when their are other players out there with the same issue. I get the hesitancy but this will only change by taking action

    Its been a long standing issue, accept it and move on.
    I really thought the problem was on my side of things.
    15mbps dsl connections, live in asia, etc, etc.
    But hearing japan have the same problem, whelp, no helping asian players then.
    I mean, japan is a technology advance country.
    If their having technical difficulty, I rest my case.

    Highlting that it's a long standing issue only furthers the notion of zos changing their denial no change stance, if people pay money should it not be a playable? If I knew that when I first got the game I would have refunded it because for Pacific players the game is not fit for use, if free games can achieve it and not charge extra should zos therefore change their stance is the real question?

    Thing is, I like the game so much, I would actually say, I LOVE THIS GAME.

    As for the issue, I have played this game for so long, I have already gotten use to my 250-300 ping.

    I love it in my ps4, I love it in my pc.

    I cant "see how someone could love something" that should not be occurring in the first place, to use passive avoidance of the issue only gives ground to the developers that what they are doing is acceptable when the reality is the exact opposite this should not happen for a paid game, and then expect continued support when they are not using the resources for proper maintenance and support of the product they are selling internationally still your response highlights an interesting view and that I can respect.

    Its occuring all the time for me.
    The lag, the high ping, the dc.
    I love it so much, I ignored those thing.

    Thats how much I love the game.
    I take all the good parts with the bad parts.

    I get you @russelmmendoza - my ping is 2k + ms always. I have fun, and I deal with the "bad parts" as you say. (BTW, I live in the lower 48 states, in the desert southwest, about 1300 miles from the servers. Satellite is my only option for connect other than dialup - over 65 year old copper-analog lines.... so not an option at all....)
    Edited by Sylvermynx on March 6, 2019 1:49AM
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    I wish that I could but I have to condone a company that is fundamentally ignoring the responsibilities of a corporate for selling a product
  • ccfeeling
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    Adapt .

    I also have 200+ ping , try the best to enjoy the contents ...

    4x k DPS is enough to me , I couldn't do better with such connection quality , it's OK. Skipped something hard .

    The biggest problem is one shot mechanism which related the connection response time in this game .
    Such as , VSCP final , the poison AOE from stone statues , I've talked about this before , once we are scanned , we die immediately , no matter we roll out the area or not . We stucked at HM a really long time :(

    I felt surprised that why DEV created this mechanism and went to youtube , I found that other players could roll or even just walk after scanned , hm ...

    I don't wanna mention Cyrodiil , we all LAG ...

    Most of my 200 ping+ friends left this game , yes , connection quality was the major factor .
  • CJduthierwb17_ESO
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    Adapt .

    I also have 200+ ping , try the best to enjoy the contents ...

    4x k DPS is enough to me , I couldn't do better with such connection quality , it's OK. Skipped something hard .

    The biggest problem is one shot mechanism which related the connection response time in this game .
    Such as , VSCP final , the poison AOE from stone statues , I've talked about this before , once we are scanned , we die immediately , no matter we roll out the area or not . We stucked at HM a really long time :(

    I felt surprised that why DEV created this mechanism and went to youtube , I found that other players could roll or even just walk after scanned , hm ...

    I don't wanna mention Cyrodiil , we all LAG ...

    Most of my 200 ping+ friends left this game , yes , connection quality was the major factor .

    Easier said than done, being ousted from pvp events constantly booted to the main menu before 5 minutes of group quests completion right at the end of the group quest constantly then having to reform.

    This is just something I cannot will not tolerate or support to those who can you have bigger tolerance than I have for those aspects but for me a flat nope.
    Edited by CJduthierwb17_ESO on March 6, 2019 2:00AM
  • ArcaneBlue
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    AU here and my usual ping is around 350 mark, and I swear the ping I used to get at launch was somewhere near 250. back then I was in QLD, using slow a** optus ADSL (3-4mbps!!!) now I'm in WA, using telstra ADSL with only slightly better speed (6mbps). it often goes up and down between 400+ and 350 when my character is just sitting idle in an unpopulated area... what gives?

    bar swap goes bonkers all the time. I roll dodge out of red, the next moment I get one shotted anyway. something needs to be done...

    my JP friends get less than 200ms the most of the time. I bitterly envy them
    #teamEmeric
  • lelink88
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    I'm sure we have enogh player form Japan, AU, NZ, Asian, Korean to make Pacific server. Zos you need to make it happen
    @ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Ok, first up the servers are mos defs in two different parts of the world so merging is just going give everyone a bad ping as has already been stated. Its a bad situation yes and latency has increased by 120MS over the last 18 months I would say.

    It all started with the Anti bot 1.3 patch that was the beginning of game degradation and its only picked up the pace in the last year and a half.

    Im in Brisbane QLD 100mbs connection with a pretty decent telco (They use 80% of their lines then stop taking customers in areas) on FttP NBN, That is absolutely ideal for any sort of gaming my PC is also a beast.

    I log into 350/380 which is unplayable anything north of 330MS in PvP you are just too behind the fight within seconds bar swaps override skills/targeting etc etc PvE it's GG for one shots or competitive weaving.

    I can not speak highly enough of using Mudfish costs like $5 for a chunk of gaming data (has lasted me 3 moonths) so its a non subscription service which is better than your $/month VPNs.

    Spend a little bit of time researching it, set it up, start ESO wipe 80/100 MS off your ping.

    Go to the sujpport article and open your ports on your router for ESO

    https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1133/~/what-ports-do-i-need-to-open-for-the-elder-scrolls-online?

    That to me stopped Desyncs (where you can run around endlessly with everyone frozen usually after you come accross a massive group in cyro) Disconnects and abnormal spiking,

    I can play BGs/Cyro around 250-280 which was what I was around 5 years ago on release PRIOR TO THE ANTI BOT/LIGHTING PATCHES at worst im rolling around at 300MS.

    These bandaids shouldn't be on the player but they are avaiable tools at our disposal and I've kept this game Im like 1100 CP into playable so thats a win in itself.

    Is this Ideal? No.
    Is it fair? No.
    Are you setting yourself up for heart break here? Yes.
  • Seri
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    Guys For NZ/Au players should really stand up and start petitioning for an AU/Pacific Server the game is completely unplayable I have tried thrice to get support to assist, so much as providing incredibly detailed Support Troubleshooting from changing even the hops that NZ uses to modifying the cable literally I have tried it all.

    Not like we've been sitting around doing nothing - there's two long-running threads that ZOS has been ignoring already which explain the routing issues causing the high latency for AU/NZ players.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/436992/high-latency-at-akamai-com
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/439549/oceanic-lag-now-300-400-ms-even-with-a-vpn-was-250-300

    ArcaneBlue wrote: »
    AU here and my usual ping is around 350 mark, and I swear the ping I used to get at launch was somewhere near 250.

    That's because it was.
    EP CP160+ Templar, Sorc, NB
    DC CP160+ Templar, Sorc, DK
  • lokulin
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    Wish my ping was back at 250ms, like it was when I joined. It is usually between 320-350ms now with occasional 999+ spikes. PvP is the hardest as it is often impossible to get a LA or targeted skill to stick when playing against players that move around a lot. Not sure if tab targeting helps. The number of times I have died from dungeon one shots even tho I have been clearly outside the red is also frustrating. To be honest it is fine when playing on lowbies but it does make end game content frustrating which does take away a big element of the game once you've explored everything else already.
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