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[BUG] vAS - Felms jumps faster than usual

Supportic
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In the current Wrathstone patch Felms jumps three times as intented like it's stated in the patch notes but his "free to move timer" is shorter now. After the third jump he has a time window of 13 seconds. Before the patch the timer after his third jump was 20 seconds. This causes him to jump more frequently than before.

In addition: Olms first jumps changed, especially at the start of the fight. I don't know if this is intented as well, just worth to mention.
Edited by Supportic on February 26, 2019 9:19PM
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  • Princess_Ciri
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    Can confirm this. Felms' jumps also seemed bugged, sometimes he would jump into the middle of our group even when both kiters were on the outside.

    Are these changes intended? If they are it would be nice for ZOS to at least mention them in the patch notes instead of randomly introducing new mechanics without telling anyone.
    Edited by Princess_Ciri on March 18, 2019 11:37PM
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  • code65536
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    The cooldown for the Felms jump was reduced from 20000ms to 14000ms in the Wrathstone patch.

    Whether or not it's intended, I'm not sure.

    Edit: ZOS has confirmed that this is not intended.
    Edited by code65536 on February 27, 2019 6:13PM
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  • Valkner
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    IR progression group is noticing Felms jumping way faster than he use to. He is getting positioned as usual, then doing his 3 jumps way before he has in previous patches. This has totally changed the dynamics of the fight, and not for the better. Did not read anything about his jump timer changing in the natchpotes. Some official word on this would be greatly appreciated!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @ZOS_Finn
    Edited by Valkner on February 27, 2019 8:41AM
  • yolanee
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    So is this intended or is this a bug?
  • code65536
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    yolanee wrote: »
    So is this intended or is this a bug?

    It's a bug.
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  • yolanee
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    code65536 wrote: »
    yolanee wrote: »
    So is this intended or is this a bug?

    It's a bug.

    I just went through all my recordings to find one with three jumps.

    Can confirm, even with three jumps we had 20-19s.
  • yolanee
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    Nothing in patch notes, no comment. :(
  • iCaliban
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    code65536 wrote: »
    yolanee wrote: »
    So is this intended or is this a bug?

    It's a bug.

    Do we have any sort of acknowledgement that this bug is recognized and will be fixed? Nothing in the patch notes and they fixed HOF but not felms
  • code65536
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    iCaliban wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    yolanee wrote: »
    So is this intended or is this a bug?

    It's a bug.

    Do we have any sort of acknowledgement that this bug is recognized and will be fixed? Nothing in the patch notes and they fixed HOF but not felms

    ZOS has confirmed that this is not intended; it appears that the fix did not make it in time for today's patch.
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  • yolanee
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    code65536 wrote: »
    iCaliban wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    yolanee wrote: »
    So is this intended or is this a bug?

    It's a bug.

    Do we have any sort of acknowledgement that this bug is recognized and will be fixed? Nothing in the patch notes and they fixed HOF but not felms

    ZOS has confirmed that this is not intended; it appears that the fix did not make it in time for today's patch.

    It's good that they did, but I couldn't find where they addressed this when I've browsed dev tracker. Do you have link?
  • MuMuQ
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    I couldn't find any confirmation either. :/

    Any chance you could provide a reference? @code65536
  • code65536
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    MuMuQ wrote: »
    I couldn't find any confirmation either. :/

    Any chance you could provide a reference? @code65536

    It was not a public statement; it was what I was told when I asked about the reasoning behind the change.
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  • MuMuQ
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    Okay, good to know. Thank you for the quick clarification :)
  • melliemel423
    I wouldve liked them to fix the Felms jumping problem over Llothis' bolts.
  • MuMuQ
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    I agree with StrafeSinnlos. This is completely killing the progress of our group since it is nearly impossible to do any serious damage on Felms and Lothis together for a proper amount of time.
    Can we please have some official clarification if and when this will be fixed? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Finn
  • iCaliban
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    MuMuQ wrote: »
    I agree with StrafeSinnlos. This is completely killing the progress of our group since it is nearly impossible to do any serious damage on Felms and Lothis together for a proper amount of time.
    Can we please have some official clarification if and when this will be fixed? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Finn

    This is ridiculous. Two WEEKS with zero acknowledgement or a fix for something that should be relatively straight forward.
    Edited by iCaliban on March 11, 2019 2:25PM
  • yolanee
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    Also the cone fix is still not on live servers, right?
  • RogueShark
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    So they fix the bolt bug, but not the ridiculous jump time or invisible cone corners? They fix the one thing that's not necessarily breaking the trial and making it infuriating?
    Meh.
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  • Tyrobius
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    I would like to add my voice to the chorus. We made the decision to pause our vAS hm progression, begun prior to Wrathstone, and move to vCR because of this bug. This is hurting the players that ZOS should be cultivating!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Finn
  • ZOS_Finn
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    Hey folks, we are still working on the Felms' jumping issue that is reported. Sorry for the lack of communication on this.
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  • SaltySudd
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    ZOS_Finn wrote: »
    Hey folks, we are still working on the Felms' jumping issue that is reported. Sorry for the lack of communication on this.

    All is well. Thanks for the update.

    But going back to Gina's apology for a lack of communication on the trials issues back in November, it would be nice if this sort of communication was mentioned sooner rather than having to apologize for a lack of communication :)
    Edited by SaltySudd on March 13, 2019 3:02PM
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  • Moloch1514
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    Lack of communication is a ZOS standard now, so no need to apologize.
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  • saf227_ESO
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    Yeah, you'll have to convince ZOS to move to Oklahoma if you want your communications Sooner.
  • Sanguinor2
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    Would also be nice to get word on the different Olms jumps, atleast it would be nice to know if those are intended or not. I´ve been maintanking for a Training Group for AS+2 to help people new to it out and the new Olms Position because of changed jumps has us all confused, as to why its happening.
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  • Zedrian
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    Any ETA on a fix on this?

    The tank healer accumulates multiple Shrapnel storms up to 4 on one side and 2 on the other because the Shrapnel Storm with its 20 seconds cooldown does not dissapear before Felms jumps again.

    @ZOS_Finn
    Edited by Zedrian on March 16, 2019 10:25AM
  • chexor
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    ZOS_Finn wrote: »
    Hey folks, we are still working on the Felms' jumping issue that is reported. Sorry for the lack of communication on this.

    Patch v4.3.8 no mention about fix. It has been a month since this bug appeared, can we expect fix intime in future?
    @ZOS_Finn
  • Ollowaiin2
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    Lul two broken trials in one patch? We should make a mechanic database ans remind zos from time to time if they break anything.
  • SaintSubwayy
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    if they dont read the post / see the problem, then it doesnt exist :trollface:
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  • iCaliban
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    This is god damn ridiculous. The game needs to F-ing work before you sell stuff in the crown store
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