What's this I hear, Lawrence Schick is leaving ZOS?

RDMyers65b14_ESO

One thing that is amazing about ESO was our Loremaster. It is a very sad day as he leaves. But, the article says family reasons. I can understand that. Best of luck to you and your family, Loremaster.

Uizuu

Thank you for everything you've done. You were truly amazing. I wish you the best of luck for the future.

IronWooshu

The changing of the TES lore over this game has me worried and I don't know if he tried to stop it or was the reason behind it but magic kitties is another stupid lore change that was done only for the sake of the cat playerbase and not taking into consideration TES lore at all.

It will be interesting if Bethesda sweeps 90% of the stories that happen here under the rug and only mention the soul burst, 3 banners war and Tiber Septum in future TES games.

I bet in 6 Khajiit wont be magic adept. Actually I can gurantee it.

Pendrillion

So who happens to be the new guy?

Farewell Lawrence. Thank you for all the funny moments in ESO live and also for your tremendeous and inspiring work on the game.

Jhalin

IronWooshu wrote: »

The changing of the TES lore over this game has me worried and I don't know if he tried to stop it or was the reason behind it but magic kitties is another stupid lore change that was done only for the sake of the cat playerbase and not taking into consideration TES lore at all.

It will be interesting if Bethesda sweeps 90% of the stories that happen here under the rug and only mention the soul burst, 3 banners war and Tiber Septum in future TES games.

I bet in 6 Khajiit wont be magic adept. Actually I can gurantee it.

Please read up on the lore you’re calling broken. Khajiit specifically have four furstocks that are highly magically inclined, meaning 1 in 4 will statistically be prone to spellcasting.

Alfiq, Alfiq-Raht, Dagi, and Dagi-Raht

They’re all also at least partially magically aligned due to their very literal connection to Tamriel’s moons.

Given their only magic buff was to crit chance and a tiny bit of regen, that’s hardly “turning them all into mages”. They also still have sustain issues (the parses done to compare races were with perfect group support scenarios in a stationary fight and as mentioned in those threads heavies were still required to keep up sustain)

Breton will outperform in most scenarios due to most combat situations not allowing for perfect uptimes on Major Force, Magickasteal, Shards, etc. Altmer (hopefully) will get reverts to the stupid changes and get actual buffs to their magicka specs once the combat team pulls their heads out of their asses.

wenchmore420b14_ESO

Sooooooo sad to hear this.
@ZOS_Lawrence_Schick "May your sword stay sharp and your arrows fly true!" 1,000 huzzahs to you and your new life quest. FYI... I have been a fan of yours since you wrote "White Plum Mountain" for D&D!!!

Now to speculate who will be new loremaster... Jeb Cook maybe??? The only one at ZoS, if he is still there, to fill those huge shoes. And I know that it was said family matters, but I can't stop thinking about the people leaving ZoS recently.
Things that make you go "hmmmmmm"....

As far as the "Kirkbride" debate, I agree NOT to have his CodA here. People act like he created TES Lore... He didn't.
Lets look to people like Julian LeFey, the "Godfather" of Elder Scrolls lore, or Wynne McLaghlin or Ted Peterson.
They were the "Lore" way before MK.

Again, GOOD LUCK @ZOS_Lawrence_Schick ... You will be greatly missed.... Huzzah!

Starlock

Blessed be, Lawrence. The storytelling of this game is what sets it head and shoulders above so many others. You've left a great legacy that won't be soon forgotten.

Rygonix

There are few ways I can describe my sentiment towards this matter that hasn't already been noted in this thread. I will say this though - you did a fantastic job keeping the lore in check through the various twists and turns the development team decided to take it. I wish you the absolute best in wherever life takes you, and a well-deserved break after all you've done for this franchise. Godspeed, @ZOS_Lawrence_Schick

Aliyavana

IronWooshu wrote: »

The changing of the TES lore over this game has me worried and I don't know if he tried to stop it or was the reason behind it but magic kitties is another stupid lore change that was done only for the sake of the cat playerbase and not taking into consideration TES lore at all.

It will be interesting if Bethesda sweeps 90% of the stories that happen here under the rug and only mention the soul burst, 3 banners war and Tiber Septum in future TES games.

I bet in 6 Khajiit wont be magic adept. Actually I can gurantee it.

Why do a lot of people that use lore as a justification seem to either not read lore or conveniently leave parts out? Like various furstocks being magika based

Ravena

Aliyavana wrote: »

IronWooshu wrote: »

The changing of the TES lore over this game has me worried and I don't know if he tried to stop it or was the reason behind it but magic kitties is another stupid lore change that was done only for the sake of the cat playerbase and not taking into consideration TES lore at all.

It will be interesting if Bethesda sweeps 90% of the stories that happen here under the rug and only mention the soul burst, 3 banners war and Tiber Septum in future TES games.

I bet in 6 Khajiit wont be magic adept. Actually I can gurantee it.

Why do a lot of people that use lore as a justification seem to either not read lore or conveniently leave parts out? Like various furstocks being magika based

Yeah, this bothers me a lot.

Did you people even play the main games? Magic kitties are everywhere.

Hell, Skyrim's most powerful mage NPC stat-wise is a kitty. The Great J'zargo.

Another recent gripe is ppl thinking Dragon aren't around in the previous eras, despite them showing up in games before Skyrim...

RebornV3x

what a shame what a rotten way to go I guess the didn't need him anymore since they threw the lore of this series out the window.

TheInfernalRage

IronWooshu wrote: »

The changing of the TES lore over this game has me worried and I don't know if he tried to stop it or was the reason behind it but magic kitties is another stupid lore change that was done only for the sake of the cat playerbase and not taking into consideration TES lore at all.

It will be interesting if Bethesda sweeps 90% of the stories that happen here under the rug and only mention the soul burst, 3 banners war and Tiber Septum in future TES games.

I bet in 6 Khajiit wont be magic adept. Actually I can gurantee it.

And also please read what the loremaster said.

Edit: It's interesting to see that even as the loremaster is leaving, some people still think they can do better.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

I think I know why he left... D-R-A-G-O-N-S.

Aliyavana

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

I think I know why he left... D-R-A-G-O-N-S.

the reason he left is literally in the text, he has to support his family and better opportunities came about.

Sheezabeast

So is it confirmed yet or still speculation?

Aliyavana

Sheezabeast wrote: »

So is it confirmed yet or still speculation?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/457682/official-discussion-thread-for-a-letter-to-the-community-from-esos-loremaster/p1

Watchdog

Sheezabeast wrote: »

So is it confirmed yet or still speculation?

Confirmed: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/55715

FinneganFroth

What a huge loss. Hopefully they can find someone else with equal passion and knowledge to replace him.

Megatto

I'm going to miss Lawrence

Nerouyn

Morgul667 wrote: »

Lore is pretty much the only thing that were amazing and “bugfree”

While I don't think there were enormous problems with lore and have nothing against Lawrence, it wasn't totally bug free.

Just off the top of my head, I recall an official lore piece - written as they typically are by as if by a specific fictional character - regarding wardens which got something completely arse about.

It referred to the "traditional" schools of magic and how warden abilities related to them. Think it was something like a bit of mysticism and conjuration.

Except that according to ESO official lore, the traditional (i.e. from the single player games) schools of magic don't exist yet - or had existed a very long time but been totally forgotten - and that character referring to them as traditional would sound like a raging idiot.

Lore wise that's supposedly why ESO has classes and possibly those schools would have been rediscovered as part of spellcrafting, had it actually been delivered.

There's also an in-game lore book which explicitly states that the schools of magic we know from the single player games aren't "traditional". At this point in time at most they're a thought bubble possibly known to a few inside the Mage's Guild.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Proposal:_Schools_of_Magic

Sylvermynx

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Not good. I don't know the impact this will have on the ESO lore, but i was a WoW player when Metzen left Blizzard, and the lore turned into a complete joke shortly after. Hopefully the same doesn't happen to ESO.

Yeah.... boy can I agree with that...

Fare well wherever you fare, @ZOS_Lawrence_Schick. I have fully enjoyed my so far brief sojourn in ESO, and much of that enjoyment is due to your input.

It's interesting: in essence, Bethesda and ZOS have taken something that law enforcement hates (differing witness PoVs) and made a virtue of it.

Claudman

He is truly an amazing Lore Master who clearly held a deep respect for the series (especially the older parts of it like Daggerfall or Redguard, games most people didn't really care about since they seemed very campy) and if he were to come back, I'd gladly welcome him back with open arms.

I'm just concerned whether or not the next Lore Master could amount to his prowess.

SpiderKnight

Zos: "We're gonna eff up some of the races, lol, k?"

Schick: "Alright, well I'm retiring."

*door closes*

Zos: *picks up phone* "Kirkbride, it's Zos, we need that Kinmune lore, don't tell Todd."

Aliyavana

SpiderKnight wrote: »

Zos: "We're gonna eff up some of the races, lol, k?"

Schick: "Alright, well I'm retiring."

*door closes*

Zos: *picks up phone* "Kirkbride, it's Zos, we need that Kinmune lore, don't tell Todd."

Todd appears

Todd:So I hear you guys need some more skyrim in your lore?

Sylvermynx

Aliyavana wrote: »

SpiderKnight wrote: »

Zos: "We're gonna eff up some of the races, lol, k?"

Schick: "Alright, well I'm retiring."

*door closes*

Zos: *picks up phone* "Kirkbride, it's Zos, we need that Kinmune lore, don't tell Todd."

Todd appears

Todd:So I hear you guys need some more skyrim in your lore?

Heh. And - magically - we have dragons....

Caligamy_ESO

https://youtu.be/0ijLyD3z6u4

reguvin

Thank you for everything.

yodased

RebornV3x wrote: »

what a shame what a rotten way to go I guess the didn't need him anymore since they threw the lore of this series out the window.

hyperbole and speculation had a baby and it is this post.

aaisoaho

Thank you Lawrence Schick for your work!

I have always loved myths and mythology, and that was my main reason I started to fall in love with TES universe. I like the way you guys use the negative space in narrative context.

To open up the concept to those of you who are not familiar with it: basically, using negative space in narrative/storytelling context is: they have written for themselves "this is a dog", but they represent it to other person by saying "it is a furry creature", "it has a tail", "it has paws", "it barks" and may even try to lead the other one astray with saying things like "it purrs" and "it made a meow sound". (or in case of TES, think of aedra, are they gods? Dunmers might say they aren't. Are they immortal? Lorkhan's death might have a word with you.)

The way the lore is made and represented gives plenty of room for speculation. Nothing is certain and we are required to fill the gaps with our own imagination.

So thank you for maintaining such an awesome creation!

JimmyJuJu

All the best @ZOS_Lawrence_Schick. You will be missed.