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Where are the dragons? I see Wyrvens.
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Davor✭✭✭✭✭
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I never once said that. Please stop making false allegations.Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"0 -
Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I have to ask who is the god given authority that gets to decide whats a dragon and whats a wyvern?1 -
Davor✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mettaricana wrote: »I have to ask who is the god given authority that gets to decide whats a dragon and whats a wyvern?
Maybe the people who invented them ages ago through mythology?
So if EOS says 1+1=3 does that mean it's correct? It's still wrong through.
Then again, Bethesda/Zenimax is good at changing what names actually mean eh?Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"0 -
Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Mettaricana wrote: »I have to ask who is the god given authority that gets to decide whats a dragon and whats a wyvern?
Maybe the people who invented them ages ago through mythology?
So if EOS says 1+1=3 does that mean it's correct? It's still wrong through.
Then again, Bethesda/Zenimax is good at changing what names actually mean eh?
Then again myth is myth not really fact now is it just a generalized assumption on what a dragon supposed to be5 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Davor, if you want to call them wyverns, go for it. The rest of us will happily call them dragons. Did you never play Skyrim?7 -
AefionBloodclaw✭✭✭✭When are people gonna realise dragons can look like whatever the creators want. 2 legs, 4 legs, 6 legs, 2 wings, 4 wings, 8 wings, feathers, fur, whatever, just get over it already. Elder Scrolls Dragons have 4 appendages: 2 legs and 2 wings. Just delete this entire thread already urrrgh lol. I noticed the OP can't even spell Wyverns correctly.'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'
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Seriously, Tolkien, Gygax, Brooks, Lieber, Gaiman and as well as many Medieval scholars all agree that "Dragon" is a fairly broad term.
Arguing over which is what is silly and their really isn't any true authority on what is what."Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”
― Robert E. Howard
So you want to be a game developer? Here is the best way to go about it.3 -
soniku4ikblis✭✭✭Hate to break it to you, but dragons are a product of imagination and fantasy.
Therefore, no biologists ever agreed on the specifics of draco draco, draco orientalis, draco malfoy, or related (sub)species.
Or IOW, there is no fixed definition of how many legs, wings, or tentacles a dragon should have or not have.
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eklhaftb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭The only meaningful difference between wyverns and dragons is the price we get for their head.
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Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There are several types of dragons.
Afaik they are basically differentiated by where they live, how many limbs they have and by their head.
So, a dragon with two winged arms and two hind legs would be a wyvern type. You can call them wyverns or dragons, both is correct.
A dragon with two arms, two hind legs and two wings would be a western dragon.
Depending on the head it would be a crocodile dragon (crocodilish nose, often with appendices like horns or gills, either long or short neck), while a dragon with a snake's nose, no horns or gills etc, and always a long neck would be a serpent dragon (typical for ancient greek dragons).
So, most ESO dragons are wyvern type dragons and imo crocodile dragons. I call them dragons, anyway. 3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Davor, if you want to call them wyverns, go for it. The rest of us will happily call them dragons. Did you never play Skyrim?Salvas_Aren wrote: »There are several types of dragons.
Afaik they are basically differentiated by where they live, how many limbs they have and by their head.
So, a dragon with two winged arms and two hind legs would be a wyvern type. You can call them wyverns or dragons, both is correct.
A dragon with two arms, two hind legs and two wings would be a western dragon.
Depending on the head it would be a crocodile dragon (crocodilish nose, often with appendices like horns or gills, either long or short neck), while a dragon with a snake's nose, no horns or gills etc, and always a long neck would be a serpent dragon (typical for ancient greek dragons).
So, most ESO dragons are wyvern type dragons and imo crocodile dragons. I call them dragons, anyway.
Me too. A dragon exists in the Eye of the Beholder.3 -
Flipityflu✭✭✭Thanks a lot. I've smoked pot for 20 years, and need all the remaining brain cells I can muster. This thread killed far too many of them.
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Davor✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Davor, if you want to call them wyverns, go for it. The rest of us will happily call them dragons. Did you never play Skyrim?
Yes I have.
I use to call them dragons until I was corrected.
The way I see it, a good example would be Planet of the Apes. Going by some people logic here (not calling you out Sylvermynx, just didn't want to make a new thread.) I guess they are all apes, and no chimpanzees or orangutans.
Oh well, in the end Bethesda changes the names of meanings, so Dragon or wyverns, add ons or DLC or Chapters. :P They are all the same after all.
Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"0 -
Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Davor, if you want to call them wyverns, go for it. The rest of us will happily call them dragons. Did you never play Skyrim?
Yes I have. I use to call them dragons until I was corrected.
The way I see it, a good example would be Planet of the Apes. Going by some people logic here (not calling you out Sylvermynx, just didn't want to make a new thread.) I guess they are all apes, and no chimpanzees or orangutans.
Oh well, in the end Bethesda changes the names of meanings, so Dragon or wyverns, add ons or DLC or Chapters. :P They are all the same after all.
Who cares if I call a chicken a chicken or just lunch? 2 -
Tornaad✭✭✭✭✭
✭Where are the dragons? All I see are Wyrvens. Are dragons not suppose to have 4 appendages, two legs and two arms? Will that be the surprise, the final boss will be an actual dragon, or all we every have are Wyrvens? Just curious.
My brother would agree with you 100%.
However technically speaking Wyverns are a dragon subspecies.2 -
Ekzorka✭✭✭✭✭
Chinese dragons have no wings. Are they still dragons or they are just a lizards?Where are the dragons? All I see are Wyrvens. Are dragons not suppose to have 4 appendages, two legs and two arms? Will that be the surprise, the final boss will be an actual dragon, or all we every have are Wyrvens? Just curious.Edited by Ekzorka on January 16, 2019 5:08AM6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Mettaricana wrote: »I have to ask who is the god given authority that gets to decide whats a dragon and whats a wyvern?
Maybe the people who invented them ages ago through mythology?
So if EOS says 1+1=3 does that mean it's correct? It's still wrong through.
Then again, Bethesda/Zenimax is good at changing what names actually mean eh?
Everyone invents their own mythology because it's fiction...5 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Where are the dragons? All I see are Wyrvens. Are dragons not suppose to have 4 appendages, two legs and two arms? Will that be the surprise, the final boss will be an actual dragon, or all we every have are Wyrvens? Just curious.
Is a dragon a biological existing creature? Or mythological only? Answer that first.
Then, tell me, as creator of the lore, just like they called khajiit khajiit and argonian argonian, they called those creatures "dragons", yes? How is that wrong? "Dragon" and "wyvern" is just for one set of folklore, but not a scientificly defined creature and therefore claiming these dragons are wyverns make you a precious little nerd that nobody really likes because you fail to see the obvious: NOBODY CARES!
have a good day.4 -
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✭✭✭✭I hope you are prepared to scold them about lamias too! They are supposed to look like this:
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Welkynar✭✭✭I looked up the definition of "dragon" and it's simply: "a mythical monster like a giant reptile." Another definition is "a mythical animal usually represented as a monstrous winged and scaly serpent or saurian with a crested head and enormous claws."
And then I searched up the definition for "wyvern" and I got "a winged two-legged dragon with a barbed tail."4 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I looked up the definition of "dragon" and it's simply: "a mythical monster like a giant reptile." Another definition is "a mythical animal usually represented as a monstrous winged and scaly serpent or saurian with a crested head and enormous claws."
And then I searched up the definition for "wyvern" and I got "a winged two-legged dragon with a barbed tail."
Your dedication to shutting up OP made me giggle.5 -
TempPlayer✭✭✭✭✭You see wyrvens, I see bat on steroid.........And the one who defined the term on some substance,.3
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EllieBlue✭✭✭✭Hate to break it to you, but dragons are a product of imagination and fantasy.
Therefore, no biologists ever agreed on the specifics of draco draco, draco orientalis, draco malfoy, or related (sub)species.
Or IOW, there is no fixed definition of how many legs, wings, or tentacles a dragon should have or not have.
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