Pvp performance problems, and everyone knows it.

phairdon

Run this game on windows 7 & windows 10. Today, I played on windows 10. Cyrodiil was a laggy, stuttering mess. The previous two days, played the game on windows 7. Cyrodiil was lag free, no stuttering or micro freezes. Still got stuck in terrain and load screens.
The game performed better on windows 7 for me. Maybe its just coincidence? Will switch back to windows 7 for my next venture into Cyrodiil, just to see if my game runs better.

Datthaw

phairdon wrote: »

Run this game on windows 7 & windows 10. Today, I played on windows 10. Cyrodiil was a laggy, stuttering mess. The previous two days, played the game on windows 7. Cyrodiil was lag free, no stuttering or micro freezes. Still got stuck in terrain and load screens.
The game performed better on windows 7 for me. Maybe its just coincidence? Will switch back to windows 7 for my next venture into Cyrodiil, just to see if my game runs better.

Well that's strange....

Sun7dance

Thorstienn wrote: »

I've said it before; all PvP players in this game should just unsubscribe/quit and let them know the reason why. Dont even log in till they take action.

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If we left the game, cyrodiil would be converted to a pve zone......problem solved!

phairdon

Datthaw wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Run this game on windows 7 & windows 10. Today, I played on windows 10. Cyrodiil was a laggy, stuttering mess. The previous two days, played the game on windows 7. Cyrodiil was lag free, no stuttering or micro freezes. Still got stuck in terrain and load screens.
The game performed better on windows 7 for me. Maybe its just coincidence? Will switch back to windows 7 for my next venture into Cyrodiil, just to see if my game runs better.

Well that's strange....

Exactly what I thought. Play gw2 as well. Gw2 give me the opposite problem. The game runs like crap on windows 7 and smoothly on windows 10.

IlCaccia

phairdon wrote: »

Run this game on windows 7 & windows 10. Today, I played on windows 10. Cyrodiil was a laggy, stuttering mess. The previous two days, played the game on windows 7. Cyrodiil was lag free, no stuttering or micro freezes. Still got stuck in terrain and load screens.
The game performed better on windows 7 for me. Maybe its just coincidence? Will switch back to windows 7 for my next venture into Cyrodiil, just to see if my game runs better.

It could be a million other things, windows is not really the first cause for that

Datthaw

Either way, lag wins the alliance war every time

sevomd69

It's almost like everyone doesn't know the definition of "everyone"...

Datthaw

sevomd69 wrote: »

It's almost like everyone doesn't know the definition of "everyone"...

No u

Datthaw

Lag hurts me Feely feels

valeriiya

Lag is just as bad on console

Savos_Saren

@Datthaw

How has this recent patch effected the lag issues? I can't log in yet- I've got to go to work.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/453058/pc-mac-patch-notes-v4-2-12

zaria

IlCaccia wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Run this game on windows 7 & windows 10. Today, I played on windows 10. Cyrodiil was a laggy, stuttering mess. The previous two days, played the game on windows 7. Cyrodiil was lag free, no stuttering or micro freezes. Still got stuck in terrain and load screens.
The game performed better on windows 7 for me. Maybe its just coincidence? Will switch back to windows 7 for my next venture into Cyrodiil, just to see if my game runs better.

It could be a million other things, windows is not really the first cause for that

Could be drivers who is an common issue.

For me I have had very few problem had one loading screen outside of porting and a couple of lag spikes.

Salvas_Aren

Had two major incidents today.

I trolled a keep. Shot at a wall, 78% HP. Got a loading screen while doing it. After the screen was gone the wall had 100% and my ballista did no more damage. What is this?

Also, while in a major fight in a keep, i got kicked out of the game, back to the char selection.

antihero727

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Datthaw wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Whew. Day 5 and this thread is still on the front page. Not a single comment from ZOS that addresses the state of Cyrodiil. PVP is a huge portion of their player base and they still refuse to offer information about performance issues.

It's getting embarrassing. I'm not asking for much, just not radio silence.

Tbh though the silence says alot. It says they don't give a damn. It says you enjoy pvp move along, it says they are disconnected and or incompetent.

It shows that they do not care about what 1/2 the population wants. Go to twitch and watch all the people not playing eso

It’s by far not half. 70% casual mostly RP house decoration experts. 15% trial and dungeon raiders. 10% elite pve endgame raiders. 5% pvp. On pc/na servers are thought to be 120 per faction. 1 server is mostly pop locked while others are usually 1 bar across. Might only have 1k players on all factions split between servers on prime time weekend. 5% pvp might be even a stretch.

Datthaw

Lol I love how you act like my numbers are wrong then throw numbers out there with 0 evidence youself

Datthaw

You're also not taking into account that not everyone pvp at the same time, bgs, duelers, etc. Plus the amount of pvp players who have already left, I guess you can't really count them but I do.

antihero727

Datthaw wrote: »

Lol I love how you act like my numbers are wrong then throw numbers out there with 0 evidence youself

PvP is still not 1/2 the population no matter what

Datthaw

antihero727 wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

Lol I love how you act like my numbers are wrong then throw numbers out there with 0 evidence youself

PvP is still not 1/2 the population no matter what

Lol prove it

Datthaw

It's a silly thing to fixate on tbh. It doesn't change the fact that it's a major aspect of the game and performance is horrible

Datthaw

Think about it like this.

Trials get crazy lag, desyncs, constant drops and crashes.

Zos would fix that in a heart beat.

I wonder what amount of players do trials? Not those home decorators.

Larsenex

To be honest if they did completely away with all of pvp I would be just fine with it. Seriously every game I have played from EQ, EQ2, WoW, Secret World, Swtor and ESO they all try to balance both PVE and PVP and its PVE that suffers because some poor fool cant kill player (flavor of the month). Thus begins the cycle of nerfs to pve to 'fix pvp. Its lame its weak sauce. Ideally just open separate pvp servers and have a fixed rule set for those players problem solved.

Oh and historically that HAS been done. See the original eq servers and EQ2 Servers and WoW servers which had 'pvp' servers. They eventually died out as the vast majority of players are not 'hardcore' pvpers. Look at the top ten best pvp games via google, with the exception of EVE and WoW those games are dying a slow death with low populations.

You want evidence? Its on the internet. The fact is the majority (greater than 50% of player base in all games do not pvp or could care less about it.) I for one don't care. I do pvp but only when dragged into it with this event or I need skills that are required in pve (also a lame ass idea). If every single pvper who was like you cancelled, Zos would be like meh, well that headache is gone lets get back to a real mmo.

TequilaFire

Larsenex wrote: »

To be honest if they did completely away with all of pvp I would be just fine with it. Seriously every game I have played from EQ, EQ2, WoW, Secret World, Swtor and ESO they all try to balance both PVE and PVP and its PVE that suffers because some poor fool cant kill player (flavor of the month). Thus begins the cycle of nerfs to pve to 'fix pvp. Its lame its weak sauce. Ideally just open separate pvp servers and have a fixed rule set for those players problem solved.

Oh and historically that HAS been done. See the original eq servers and EQ2 Servers and WoW servers which had 'pvp' servers. They eventually died out as the vast majority of players are not 'hardcore' pvpers. Look at the top ten best pvp games via google, with the exception of EVE and WoW those games are dying a slow death with low populations.

You want evidence? Its on the internet. The fact is the majority (greater than 50% of player base in all games do not pvp or could care less about it.) I for one don't care. I do pvp but only when dragged into it with this event or I need skills that are required in pve (also a lame ass idea). If every single pvper who was like you cancelled, Zos would be like meh, well that headache is gone lets get back to a real mmo.

I am sure no one would miss your pearls of wisdom either.

Stridig

I wonder why non-PvPers feel compelled to comment here.

Datthaw

Larsenex wrote: »

To be honest if they did completely away with all of pvp I would be just fine with it. Seriously every game I have played from EQ, EQ2, WoW, Secret World, Swtor and ESO they all try to balance both PVE and PVP and its PVE that suffers because some poor fool cant kill player (flavor of the month). Thus begins the cycle of nerfs to pve to 'fix pvp. Its lame its weak sauce. Ideally just open separate pvp servers and have a fixed rule set for those players problem solved.

Oh and historically that HAS been done. See the original eq servers and EQ2 Servers and WoW servers which had 'pvp' servers. They eventually died out as the vast majority of players are not 'hardcore' pvpers. Look at the top ten best pvp games via google, with the exception of EVE and WoW those games are dying a slow death with low populations.

You want evidence? Its on the internet. The fact is the majority (greater than 50% of player base in all games do not pvp or could care less about it.) I for one don't care. I do pvp but only when dragged into it with this event or I need skills that are required in pve (also a lame ass idea). If every single pvper who was like you cancelled, Zos would be like meh, well that headache is gone lets get back to a real mmo.

I mean you can't hate on pvp too much. Pve tanked at launch hard. It was pvp that saved this game and allowed it to grow into the game you enjoy. It's a shame to treat a once great part of the game like it's a parasite.

valeriiya

Datthaw wrote: »

Think about it like this.

Trials get crazy lag, desyncs, constant drops and crashes.

Zos would fix that in a heart beat.

I wonder what amount of players do trials? Not those home decorators.

I think it was after Summerset that there was terrible lag and glitches in trials. I know that going through the last door in Hel Ra would cause half the group to blue screen but PvE generally has better performance