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Which alliance is best? (2019)

  • ccfeeling
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    EP and DC are same :D

    In PS4 NA , Vivec and Shor .

    You will see they co-play all the time , last night EP was guarding outside of DC keep when we pushing DC , that's pretty funny

    I've tried to ask one of them , why they did such thing , why they didn't fight but stay side by side ?

    He answered me that , they know and respect each other :D
  • chaz
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    Daggerfall Covenant
    PuuuuhhhhhLEZZZZZZZZZEEE people.

    Daggerfall is the one true Alliance like your fake imaginary friend Jesus is the one true gawd.

    All seriousness to it, Daggerfall is the best and not for it's people the players, but it's morals, ethics, art, music, eccentricities, deco, cleanliness, Honor, Values, Pride, Leadership, Fortitude, puhzazz!, Idealism, Strength, Blood, Humor, warmth, agriculture, horticulture, Botanical wizardry, Wisdom, entertainment, food, love, and life!

    None of these things apply to EP or AD, and certainly not many players. Very few, a small percentage of players realize Daggerfall and the only life. And the only life at all. In my time here at eso since beta, I have met only 6 people in 4 years (++) that realize the truth.

    Daggerfall is life
    Daggerfall is love
    Daggerfall is Strength
    ................................
    Daggerfall is Truth!

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  • Mayrael
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    There is difference between being popular and the best ;)
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
  • Cously
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    Daggerfall Covenant
    Need an account lock per campaign.
  • velimirius
    velimirius
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    Ebonheart Pact
    Pact, always.
  • AndyMac
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    Ebonheart Pact
    Dunmer is the master race , therefore Ebonheart Pact is the master alliance :D

    Andymac - Magicka DK - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror
  • mwo1480
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    Ad - has the best bowtards

    DC - can take a keep in 1.2 seconds

    Ep - 3 raids for one resource just to be completly sure we get it

    dont know mate, took20+ dc 15 min to tagg roebeck against 5 defenders and they still lost
    on the other hand they are good in working to gether with EP and in zerging
    Edited by mwo1480 on January 15, 2019 11:44AM
    eu/pc
    every char has a story

    anne-susan ...breton sorch DC
    seline kay .... bosmer dk AD
    elle wolf .... breton temp AD
    fluffy meowmeow... khajiit-nightblade AD
    Lynphia Moonlit ...Woodmer-arcanist AD
  • Abelcher339b14_ESO
    Aldmeri Dominion
    AD because you never hear us being all high and mighty like the other two. We know we're better, no need to brag or put others down about it. In pvp, its always AD vs the Purple team(dc+ep). Dont believe me about AD vs purple team? Just look at the comments lol.. Think about it, why do the other two hate us so much? Most cant stand when someone or something is better than them.

    Brief overview of EP and DC from AD point of view:
    EP: Zergiest of the zergs in PvP. They're so use to zerging, they even do it irl. No honor what so ever. Most likely do to immaturity(every 5 year old loves dragons and red)
    DC: The most stuck up faction, you'd think they had the High Elves. They think they are better than everyone else(even themselves). All the time talking about how great they are, just look at the comments lol. I'd label these as the "Dudley do right" the "High and Mighty" of the alliances.
    Edited by Abelcher339b14_ESO on January 15, 2019 2:36PM
  • Oberstein
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    Daggerfall Covenant
    AD because you never hear us being all high and mighty like the other two. We know we're better, no need to brag or put others down about it. In pvp, its always AD vs the Purple team(dc+ep). Dont believe me about AD vs purple team? Just look at the comments lol.. Think about it, why do the other two hate us so much? Most cant stand when someone or something is better than them.

    Brief overview of EP and DC from AD point of view:
    EP: Zergiest of the zergs in PvP. They're so use to zerging, they even do it irl. No honor what so ever. Most likely do to immaturity(every 5 year old loves dragons and red)
    DC: The most stuck up faction, you'd think they had the High Elves. They think they are better than everyone else(even themselves). All the time talking about how great they are, just look at the comments lol. I'd label these as the "Dudley do right" the "High and Mighty" of the alliances.

    Don't you heard of Pelinal Whitestrake that challenged 1vs1 every strong elfs and nailed them. But dirty elf kings used zerg attack to take down Pelinal Whitestrake. Don't talk honor when you are dirty elf.
    History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.
  • Galarthor
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    Can't say for certain which one is the best on Vivec EU.
    However, I can say for certain which one is the worst: AD.

    AD may win almost every campaign, but that is not due to their skill but rather due to their ability to organize groups during times the other 2 alliances don't - it's not necessarily that AD fields more players, but rather that they play semi-coordinated while their opponents don't.

    So why then is AD the worst faction? B/c it got the worse "average player" - i.e. not buying and using siege equipoment, stacking and bathing in oils, chasing ball-groups around the top of keeps despite knowing from experience that they will get wipe around the next corner by that ball group. Don't get me wrong, there are players like this in every faction. But AD got the most of them. In addition, AD doesn't really have any group-play. Yes you might see 30 ADs outside of your keep. But those are pretty much 30 solo players that sticked together for the sake of security, but don't actually help each other. EP & DC zergs are like herds of horses, while AD zergs are like herds od zebras - you can kill a zebra in the herd and the rest of the herd literally does not give a damn.

    To be fair, it is not entirely AD's fault. Rather AD is suffering from what you call "Adverse Selection", where the good players leave AD b/c they realized their alliance mates are the worst of all 3 factions and that they can get more AP fighting against their alliance mates than when with/for them. So the best players leave, the average decreases even further, the now best (fromerly second-best) players realize that they are "too good" for AD side and that they could make more AP fighting against AD and so they switch, and the cycle begins again.
  • Oberstein
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    Daggerfall Covenant
    Galarthor wrote: »
    Can't say for certain which one is the best on Vivec EU.
    However, I can say for certain which one is the worst: AD.

    AD may win almost every campaign, but that is not due to their skill but rather due to their ability to organize groups during times the other 2 alliances don't - it's not necessarily that AD fields more players, but rather that they play semi-coordinated while their opponents don't.

    So why then is AD the worst faction? B/c it got the worse "average player" - i.e. not buying and using siege equipoment, stacking and bathing in oils, chasing ball-groups around the top of keeps despite knowing from experience that they will get wipe around the next corner by that ball group. Don't get me wrong, there are players like this in every faction. But AD got the most of them. In addition, AD doesn't really have any group-play. Yes you might see 30 ADs outside of your keep. But those are pretty much 30 solo players that sticked together for the sake of security, but don't actually help each other. EP & DC zergs are like herds of horses, while AD zergs are like herds od zebras - you can kill a zebra in the herd and the rest of the herd literally does not give a damn.

    To be fair, it is not entirely AD's fault. Rather AD is suffering from what you call "Adverse Selection", where the good players leave AD b/c they realized their alliance mates are the worst of all 3 factions and that they can get more AP fighting against their alliance mates than when with/for them. So the best players leave, the average decreases even further, the now best (fromerly second-best) players realize that they are "too good" for AD side and that they could make more AP fighting against AD and so they switch, and the cycle begins again.

    True enough saw many players like that in AD.
    Edited by Oberstein on January 15, 2019 5:27PM
    History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.
  • FilteredRiddle
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    Aldmeri Dominion
    PVE -
    1. AD
    Queen Ayrenn is regal, intelligent, well traveled, and - despite being an Altmer - believes in the prosperity of all Dominion races equally. The Orrery of Elden Root proves that she is an honorable leader, and her many actions and decisions throughout the quest line show that she is worthy of respect and admiration (and the Vestige’s friendship). We also know that, despite the exceptionally twisted form it becomes, the AD is the only alliance to survive into the future. However, I imagine Ayrenn would be unbelievably sad to see her legacy. AD is also home to Razum-Dar, who is easily one of the most loveable and badass characters in ESO. Finally, the AD storyline is the only one to maintain a mostly consistent thread through every zone and is the most lighthearted of the bunch, which I enjoyed. The zones themselves are also, for the most part, great looking.

    2. DC
    While High King Emeric isn’t as spry as he once was, he is youthful at heart and clearly has the best for his kingdom at heart. Though his decisions have led to some turmoil (e.g. his choice to break his engagement with King Ranser’s daughter, leading to Ranser’s War) ultimately they led to the creation of the Daggerfall Covenant and that ought to be commended. Even though he was 42 when he took the throne, he did so following his entire family being wiped out by the Knahaten Flu, and wasted zero time in ensuring his kingdom would live on by forging deep alliances with his neighbors. As with AD, the storyline is mostly interconnected through the DC zones as well, which is nice. The zones are all also decent.

    3. EP
    Jorunn the Skald-King is a brute who only wants power for power’s sake, and the alliance between the people of EP makes absolutely zero sense. The Nords are a bunch of drunken Vikings, Dark Elves are magical fire elves who love slavery, and Argonians are walking shoes and backpacks that are now besties with their previous oppressors. The storyline through the EP zones is broken, with few overarching themes. Stonefalls and Shadowfen (emphasis on Shadowfen) are also the worst zones in-game. Naryu Virian is the only redeeming quality about EP.

    PVP -
    1. EP
    The mighty red flood will wash away your sins, so that all may be purified. That red organization can be mmm when it works. Sometimes the Zerg can be a bit too much, but overall this is the alliance with which I’ve had the most fun by far and the one to which I ended up dedicating myself in Vivec.

    2. AD
    The ball groups and ganking are real, but when yellow comes together they sure can get something going fierce. There’s a lot of solid AD players, and I remember AD’s heydey when ESO was first released; it was fun to be yellow. That camaraderie seemed to disappear though, in lieu of squeakers and interesting zone chat.

    3. DC
    Still not sure they know how to do anything but ball group, and the most heinous, outright cheaty cheat players that I’ve reported (e.g. well known players from one faction, playing on a different faction, only to take an enemy scroll and run it to their usual faction or take it hostage, etc) have been 98% blue. I know not all blue are bad - some of my best buddies are blue, and I ran in a blue PVP group for a time - but many, many, many blue are horrific.
    Xbox One NA
    The Sentinels of Padomay
    Obsidian Guard (Social with PvX Events)

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  • Oberstein
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    many, many, many blue are horrific.
    Not horrible as AD

    History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.
  • rootimus
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    Aldmeri Dominion
    AD PvE has Raz, AD PvP has the Holy Cult of the Alessia Bridge. There is no competition.
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  • Mayrael
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    Aldmeri Dominion
    AD - because EP and DC hate them blindly.
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
  • Oberstein
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    AD - because EP and DC hate them blindly.

    Not really.
    History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.
  • Nutshotz
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    Well on PC na vivec I'll vote on either DC/AD. I won't vote for EP cuz of one zergling guild that causes queue's to sky rocket and running a 90 childish Zerg. ( Do I like them or respect them nope. Are they good players. Oh hell no. CP 810 EP Zerg player vs a cp 185 player demolishes and demoralized that zergling)

    So as of right now my vote stands for AD/DC

    If that childish Zerg leader grows a pair and either learns to PvP with 12-16 players or GTFO. Than I'll maybe consider EP for PC na vivec
  • AlboMalefica
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    Ebonheart Pact
    All 14 toons I have are EP, tried Ad a couple of years ago but didn’t enjoy as much. So the only thing I really have to add is

    FTP!!!!
  • imredneckson
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    Latios wrote: »
    It's always changing because of so many faction swappers.. Can't really vote for one atm. I'm loyal to DC, though.

    Depends on the campaign and what guilds they have there.
    Edited by imredneckson on February 13, 2019 4:15PM
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  • Iskiab
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    Aldmeri Dominion
    AD, lower pop and frequently loses so you can always find pvp. The other factions are good if you like pvdoor.
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  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Ebonheart Pact
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    EP and DC are same :D

    In PS4 NA , Vivec and Shor .

    You will see they co-play all the time , last night EP was guarding outside of DC keep when we pushing DC , that's pretty funny

    I've tried to ask one of them , why they did such thing , why they didn't fight but stay side by side ?

    He answered me that , they know and respect each other :D

    Ad and dc do that on ps4 na
  • BloodStorm
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    Aldmeri Dominion
    AD is always the best logically. People forget Bretons have elf blood and a few Nords of skyrim learned magic from the snow elves which allowed them to defeat them. All conquest ability, culture, power, and much more was even possible because of the elf influence. All races are inferior to elves, especially High Elves. As far as the hate on elves go its simply jealousy, inferiority and self-hatred nothing more. Look at how other animals are enslaved for example, why? Because they are less intelligent and lower on the food chain. Why not try to evolve into something more intelligent than just holding onto delusions that lesser races of tamriel are equal. A Altmer Vampire is the epitome of superiority though as they have forever basically to achieve knowledge and power. If Lord Harkon in Skyrim had of been a High Elf for example then Skyrim would be under his control completely most likely but being a vampire he would of seen elves as inferior to Vampires as we are the most intelligent and powerful beings besides the tamriel type gods :). Just my opinion on things, not arguing :).
  • Casul
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    Daggerfall Covenant
    DC 4EVER
    PvP needs more love.
  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    Aldmeri Dominion
    AD. They accommodate us exiled Imperials fairly well.
    In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
  • Lylith
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    Aldmeri Dominion
    Mayrael wrote: »
    AD - because EP and DC hate them blindly.

    hate em back.
  • iiYuki
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    Aldmeri Dominion
    All my characters are AD though I only play one character mainly been AD since alliance and race mattered.
    Edited by iiYuki on February 13, 2019 7:39PM
    "Play how you want... unless its not how we intended you to play in which case we'll nerf it".
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  • Nemesis7884
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    Ebonheart Pact
    the result is so glorious
  • Taunky
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    Daggerfall Covenant
    From my experience, DC has been the best out of the majority. They don't have the strongest population, but often notice them taking out large chunks of players at a time when outnumbered. I guess that means it's all about the quality over quantity.

    EP - Zerglings and Skyrim fanboys
    AD - Cat roleplayers and Elf lovers (no thanks)
  • Red_Feather
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    What is this tomfoolery. This topic is out of date.
  • InvictusApollo
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    Ebonheart Pact
    I don't know about DC but I have two chars in EP and AD so I can only compare these two. And despite my love for AD I sadly have to accept that EP is better in the no cp standard campaign.
    Here is why:
    1. EP groups are allways more organised and disciplined.
    2. There are almost allways at least two groups for randoms on EP. All you have to do is type a string for autoinvite. In AD people rarely take lead and organise a group.
    3. Whenever there was an organised EP group, AD had no chance capturing a keep. Sadly AD score only when EP are having a break.
    4. Almost every 1vX YouTube video I see is a bunch of AD players trying to do some damage to EP or DC player... and lose.
    5. There seems to be more unprepared players on AD side who just expect to zerg things down.
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