ApostateHobo wrote: »Anyways yeah what the heck is up with these people?
ApostateHobo wrote: »Anyways yeah what the heck is up with these people?
Heaven forbid people play for fun and a long time and are not good at the game. Not everyone is an Internet Sports Jock.
A little noobishness could be explainad by casual solo players going into dungeons for the very first time for the event, but... yeah, that much noobieness as described is likely something else.ApostateHobo wrote: »So like pretty much everyone else I've being running dungeons for the event, and I keep encountering max cp or just very high cp players that play like complete noobs...
I suspect doing -exactly- that at dolmens. Rubberbands and other such things may or may not have been involved.ApostateHobo wrote: »They have 10-12k health and stand way in the back spamming just one ability and light attacks. How on earth have these people gotten this far like that?
Yeah, or at least the PUGs.This thread is just one more reminder why I avoid group content.
OK I'm cp 1,000 +, BUT my main and all chars have crafted weapon/armor. My main is OK with most Vet dundgeons but all my alts are squishy, lucky if they got a complete back bar. Really I was hoping this event would let me evolve them all to a point where they can vet dungeon - looks like I'll be lucky to evolve two of them. They are not all meant to be dps but thats how I'm playing them unitil thgey are evolved enougth. But I still get kicked in dungeons where I havn't died {yet}.
Weak builds are weak because they have no skills yet.
A good pug seems about as common as a more elietist pug. An event like this maybe yoiu should expect weak builds in pugs? Adds to the sense of achievment? Helps other players?
ApostateHobo wrote: »So like pretty much everyone else I've being running dungeons for the event, and I keep encountering max cp or just very high cp players that play like complete noobs. They have 10-12k health and stand way in the back spamming just one ability and light attacks. How on earth have these people gotten this far like that? One guy was close to max cp with 10k health queued as a tank on a sorc, and dude wasn't even using a damage shield. Guy got sneezed on by a harpy and died.
Also decided to finally roll a healer for this event, which I actually really enjoy playing, and it's like they intentionally avoid all my heals. Why you standing way behind me away from everyone else where my heals can't reach you just stand in the sparklies and flowers man they are there to heal yo squishy 10k hp butt.
Anyways yeah what the heck is up with these people?
It is an event, people are playing it on every character to get reward boxes. That means, like me, they are taking characters that they abandoned 3 years ago, with no CP allocated, and wearing level 40+ gear drops and using similar weapons, into random dungeons, just to get the reward box.
Good for you if you have a full stable of characters who are perfectly kitted out with gear, have CP spent, and for whom you know their role and playstyle. Good for you. If you don't want to do a dungeon with my crafter who wears farming gear, or the character that I forgot about and don't know what skills I have slotted and why, then go into dungeons with a pre-made group of similarly perfectly built and geared characters instead of queuing with the plebs
ApostateHobo wrote: »So like pretty much everyone else I've being running dungeons for the event, and I keep encountering max cp or just very high cp players that play like complete noobs. They have 10-12k health and stand way in the back spamming just one ability and light attacks. How on earth have these people gotten this far like that? One guy was close to max cp with 10k health queued as a tank on a sorc, and dude wasn't even using a damage shield. Guy got sneezed on by a harpy and died.
Also decided to finally roll a healer for this event, which I actually really enjoy playing, and it's like they intentionally avoid all my heals. Why you standing way behind me away from everyone else where my heals can't reach you just stand in the sparklies and flowers man they are there to heal yo squishy 10k hp butt.
Anyways yeah what the heck is up with these people?
It is an event, people are playing it on every character to get reward boxes. That means, like me, they are taking characters that they abandoned 3 years ago, with no CP allocated, and wearing level 40+ gear drops and using similar weapons, into random dungeons, just to get the reward box.
Good for you if you have a full stable of characters who are perfectly kitted out with gear, have CP spent, and for whom you know their role and playstyle. Good for you. If you don't want to do a dungeon with my crafter who wears farming gear, then go into dungeons with a pre-made group of similarly perfectly built and geared characters instead of queuing with the plebs
ApostateHobo wrote: »So like pretty much everyone else I've being running dungeons for the event, and I keep encountering max cp or just very high cp players that play like complete noobs. They have 10-12k health and stand way in the back spamming just one ability and light attacks. How on earth have these people gotten this far like that? One guy was close to max cp with 10k health queued as a tank on a sorc, and dude wasn't even using a damage shield. Guy got sneezed on by a harpy and died.
Also decided to finally roll a healer for this event, which I actually really enjoy playing, and it's like they intentionally avoid all my heals. Why you standing way behind me away from everyone else where my heals can't reach you just stand in the sparklies and flowers man they are there to heal yo squishy 10k hp butt.
Anyways yeah what the heck is up with these people?
It is an event, people are playing it on every character to get reward boxes. That means, like me, they are taking characters that they abandoned 3 years ago, with no CP allocated, and wearing level 40+ gear drops and using similar weapons, into random dungeons, just to get the reward box.
Good for you if you have a full stable of characters who are perfectly kitted out with gear, have CP spent, and for whom you know their role and playstyle. Good for you. If you don't want to do a dungeon with my crafter who wears farming gear, or the character that I forgot about and don't know what skills I have slotted and why, then go into dungeons with a pre-made group of similarly perfectly built and geared characters instead of queuing with the plebs
Oh, wow. Much as I detest elitist attitudes, I find your abysmal disregard for other players' time and energies of the lowest order. Honestly, what you need to do is find similar groups of equally scurrilous individuals with whom to run dungeons. I'm sorry if this comes of as offensive, but your post bespeaks of selfishness and greed.
Edit: While ZOS cannot be expected to socially engineer player attitudes, they bear some responsibility for purveying so-called events that foster this kind of behavior.
It is an event, people are playing it on every character to get reward boxes. That means, like me, they are taking characters that they abandoned 3 years ago, with no CP allocated, and wearing level 40+ gear drops and using similar weapons, into random dungeons, just to get the reward box.
Good for you if you have a full stable of characters who are perfectly kitted out with gear, have CP spent, and for whom you know their role and playstyle. Good for you. If you don't want to do a dungeon with my crafter who wears farming gear, or the character that I forgot about and don't know what skills I have slotted and why, then go into dungeons with a pre-made group of similarly perfectly built and geared characters instead of queuing with the plebs
Oh, wow. Much as I detest elitist attitudes, I find your abysmal disregard for other players' time and energies of the lowest order. Honestly, what you need to do is find similar groups of equally scurrilous individuals with whom to run dungeons. I'm sorry if this comes of as offensive, but your post bespeaks of selfishness and greed.
Edit: While ZOS cannot be expected to socially engineer player attitudes, they bear some responsibility for purveying so-called events that foster this kind of behavior.
We are talking about normal dungeons, aren't we?
It is an event, people are playing it on every character to get reward boxes. That means, like me, they are taking characters that they abandoned 3 years ago, with no CP allocated, and wearing level 40+ gear drops and using similar weapons, into random dungeons, just to get the reward box.
Good for you if you have a full stable of characters who are perfectly kitted out with gear, have CP spent, and for whom you know their role and playstyle. Good for you. If you don't want to do a dungeon with my crafter who wears farming gear, or the character that I forgot about and don't know what skills I have slotted and why, then go into dungeons with a pre-made group of similarly perfectly built and geared characters instead of queuing with the plebs
Oh, wow. Much as I detest elitist attitudes, I find your abysmal disregard for other players' time and energies of the lowest order. Honestly, what you need to do is find similar groups of equally scurrilous individuals with whom to run dungeons. I'm sorry if this comes of as offensive, but your post bespeaks of selfishness and greed.
Edit: While ZOS cannot be expected to socially engineer player attitudes, they bear some responsibility for purveying so-called events that foster this kind of behavior.
We are talking about normal dungeons, aren't we?
I believe we are talking about a cadre of self-entitled players expecting others to carry them because, after all, it is an event.
ApostateHobo wrote: »So like pretty much everyone else I've being running dungeons for the event, and I keep encountering max cp or just very high cp players that play like complete noobs. They have 10-12k health and stand way in the back spamming just one ability and light attacks. How on earth have these people gotten this far like that? One guy was close to max cp with 10k health queued as a tank on a sorc, and dude wasn't even using a damage shield. Guy got sneezed on by a harpy and died.
Also decided to finally roll a healer for this event, which I actually really enjoy playing, and it's like they intentionally avoid all my heals. Why you standing way behind me away from everyone else where my heals can't reach you just stand in the sparklies and flowers man they are there to heal yo squishy 10k hp butt.
Anyways yeah what the heck is up with these people?
This landscape is so easy on this game players could get to max CP by spamming one ability or light attacks. So that shouldn't surprise you.
As far as your complaints in regard to healing is concerned - I completely agree with you. I've never seen a game that seems so intent on making healing others a pain.
Most healing spells have these annoying area of effects players have to stand in. To make matters worse - they changed the targeting of healing spells (like breath of life) to where you have to look at the player to heal them which is just a nuisance.
Especially if you move in to try and envelop the whole party in your area of effect which means ranged DPS are likely going to be standing behind you. And let's not even talk about a fight where people are spread about running all over the place. When I do raids it's just comical watching healers begging for everyone to "stack please". I know all to well what they are going through and I sympathize.
I don't know which developer was in charge of designing the healing spells on this game but it's clear to me they have no idea what they are doing. That or they have a personal bias against healing in general. It's just funny how you don't have to be staring at someone to cast a shield on them - or to cast a buff them ... just if you want to heal them. Yeah. That makes sense.
It is an event, people are playing it on every character to get reward boxes. That means, like me, they are taking characters that they abandoned 3 years ago, with no CP allocated, and wearing level 40+ gear drops and using similar weapons, into random dungeons, just to get the reward box.
Good for you if you have a full stable of characters who are perfectly kitted out with gear, have CP spent, and for whom you know their role and playstyle. Good for you. If you don't want to do a dungeon with my crafter who wears farming gear, or the character that I forgot about and don't know what skills I have slotted and why, then go into dungeons with a pre-made group of similarly perfectly built and geared characters instead of queuing with the plebs
Oh, wow. Much as I detest elitist attitudes, I find your abysmal disregard for other players' time and energies of the lowest order. Honestly, what you need to do is find similar groups of equally scurrilous individuals with whom to run dungeons. I'm sorry if this comes of as offensive, but your post bespeaks of selfishness and greed.
Edit: While ZOS cannot be expected to socially engineer player attitudes, they bear some responsibility for purveying so-called events that foster this kind of behavior.
We are talking about normal dungeons, aren't we?
I believe we are talking about a cadre of self-entitled players expecting others to carry them because, after all, it is an event.
Honey, the word cadre means elite... a group of military officers or some such
What_In_Tarnation wrote: »How can people getting triggered so easily. It's just a basic question about your food buff, ability usage and a basic knowledge that you don't stand behind healer.
You don't need to be a competent player and can still know most of healing comes from AoE/DoT, Heals like breath of life, enchanted growth and healing ward are expensive as heck, you don't want healer spam that *** just because you stand far far away and make healer run out of magicka so easily.
ApostateHobo wrote: »So like pretty much everyone else I've being running dungeons for the event, and I keep encountering max cp or just very high cp players that play like complete noobs. They have 10-12k health and stand way in the back spamming just one ability and light attacks. How on earth have these people gotten this far like that? One guy was close to max cp with 10k health queued as a tank on a sorc, and dude wasn't even using a damage shield. Guy got sneezed on by a harpy and died.
Also decided to finally roll a healer for this event, which I actually really enjoy playing, and it's like they intentionally avoid all my heals. Why you standing way behind me away from everyone else where my heals can't reach you just stand in the sparklies and flowers man they are there to heal yo squishy 10k hp butt.
Anyways yeah what the heck is up with these people?
ApostateHobo wrote: »Also decided to finally roll a healer for this event, which I actually really enjoy playing, and it's like they intentionally avoid all my heals. Why you standing way behind me away from everyone else where my heals can't reach you ...
VaranisArano wrote: »When I'm tanking, the only time I care about DD positioning is when someone is hanging out way in the back on one of those bosses who jumps to the person whose farthest away.
Those people I just look at and think "I hope you don't mind the boss pouncing on you every single time because there's nothing I can do about it..."
This thread is just one more reminder why I avoid group content.
I'm CP-614, haven't done a dungeon in a group since the first month I played this game. I do quests, delves, public dungeons, gather, grind for mats, a few world bosses, Maelstrom Arena, and even some group dungeons. And, yes, I farm dolmens while I'm listening to audio books.
I avoid dungeons for a variety of reasons, not the least of which being the elitist attitude displayed by some here and how casually that contempt manifests itself in group chat.
Really, it's a complete tragedy for y'all that people like me dare to attempt grouping up for a dungeon.
ApostateHobo wrote: »How on earth have these people gotten this far like that?
You maybe don't need to be a competent healer but you need to have either played a healer before that (or have a healer tell you). And that is by no means guaranteed.What_In_Tarnation wrote: »You don't need to be a competent player and can still know most of healing comes from AoE/DoT, Heals like breath of life, enchanted growth and healing ward are expensive as heck, you don't want healer spam that *** just because you stand far far away and make healer run out of magicka so easily.
This thread is just one more reminder why I avoid group content.
I'm CP-614, haven't done a dungeon in a group since the first month I played this game. I do quests, delves, public dungeons, gather, grind for mats, a few world bosses, Maelstrom Arena, and even some group dungeons. And, yes, I farm dolmens while I'm listening to audio books.
I avoid dungeons for a variety of reasons, not the least of which being the elitist attitude displayed by some here and how casually that contempt manifests itself in group chat.
Really, it's a complete tragedy for y'all that people like me dare to attempt grouping up for a dungeon.
You maybe don't need to be a competent healer but you need to have either played a healer before that (or have a healer tell you). And that is by no means guaranteed.What_In_Tarnation wrote: »You don't need to be a competent player and can still know most of healing comes from AoE/DoT, Heals like breath of life, enchanted growth and healing ward are expensive as heck, you don't want healer spam that *** just because you stand far far away and make healer run out of magicka so easily.
If you're playing solo, you don't need to bother with healing AoEs. And you're most probably not playing anything healer-like because healers and tanks are only useful in group content.
That means that you most probably never had to actually look at most of the healing spells or care about their AoE. If you use a class self-heal, you don't have to bother with a resto staff. If you're using Breath of Life, positioning doesn't matter if it's supposed to heal yourself.
Overland and solo play drive you towards a DD-y playstyle. How group healing works, isn't part of that experience.
xMovingTarget wrote: »I like this thread. Sharing stories! I have one too.
So I was in a party. the other DD was really weak. I did like 80% group dmg across the board. trash/bosses. But whatever right? Things died. So it is what it is. All good.
we did the 2 vPledges. First dungeon was fine. In the 2nd one, the tank DCed midway through. We used the finder to get another tank.
We eventually got one. Now this is where the fun starts.
The guy had 920 or so CP. When he arrived at our group, He was running Dualwield. It was strange, but whatever. Lets just go through the dungeon, right?
It was spindle clutch. We were at the 3 flesh atros.
This guy, he ran Dualwield/destro staff. Like what??!?! And queues as Tank in vet dungeons...
I had the aggro all the time from all 3 atros. Struggling to survive. And still hit 75% group DPS.
So I dont mind new players Just not being that good yet. That is no issue. Like the other DD. he was at like 200CP. Which is fine. He still has to learn you know.
But this guy.. He queued as tank, was a pseudo DD. Did probably less damage than the healer.
We kicked him before the last boss. Because even after we said "taunt pls" and so, he did not.
And this is the point it got really wierd. He started whispering me.
I am good, you low CP Noob.
L2P and so on
After that he linked me every piece of Boss helm/shoulder in the game for whatever reason and told me how much of a noob I was.
I am 540CP magDK. I was on a 3 year break from ESO. But still manage better than that guy.
At the end he kept swearing at me in french for 30 more minutes. Until he eventually stopped because I just ignored it.
So this is my story from this event.
the rest I mainly did with a friend group.