This is the discounted price LMAO!

Gilvoth

aren't Popular and new mounts 5000 crowns?
this 3500 is a discount if i'm remembering right i paid 5000 for the mounts i have wanted in the past.
right?

MartiniDaniels

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Deyirn wrote: »

I don't get why people even care about mounts and other cosmetics. I like my default brown horse and how I can use the Outfitting station to make my character look like regular NPC that blends in rather than look like some shiny superhero, like the rest of the shiny superheroes.

Because when you've experienced the majority of the game after years of playing, there are a few things you fall back on to keep yourself entertained:

• Repeating PvE content
• PvPing
• Cosmetics

And this being a roleplaying game, cosmetics are a pretty important part of building a character's "lore", as it were. When so much of those cosmetics are locked behind tall RNG walls or are temporarily available for unreasonable amounts of time and then later placed behind those RNG walls, it's irksome to those that wish to make their characters complete without feeling highly pressured into obtaining the necessary items before they're gone.

++ schoolboys think that if somebody buys something "expensive" it can be done only to show off etc, they don't understand that for adult this 3.5k crowns is literally cost of one meal IRL and this or other mount can be bought it for roleplayin' reasons or like part of mount furniture for dwemer house etc.

I'd rather take the 7 McDonalds meals over 1 in game mount

Let me clarify - 15$ for reskin is absurd price for group of pixels.. in case if it is just group of pixels for person who buy it. But in case it is critical part of your RP experience.. this experience has more worth then 7 double whoppers. I won't buy this spider cause i don't care about ebon dwemers. But I bought that Auroran warhorse since one of my mains is something like Meridia champ. I really even don't appreciate much looks of this horse, but it was fitting my RP for this toon, so I just bought it for those dlc-price.

AlienatedGoat

TBH, the regular dwemer toilet was 3000 crowns (one of my most regretted purchases).

600 more isn't that much for a reskin. If the full price is ~4000 crowns, that's well within the ZOS norms of pricing (which are still ridiculous AF - $30 for a mount, more than an expansion).

AlienatedGoat

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

aren't Popular and new mounts 5000 crowns?
this 3500 is a discount if i'm remembering right i paid 5000 for the mounts i have wanted in the past.
right?

I haven't seen a 5000 crown mount yet. Don't give em ideas tho, eh?

Gilvoth

i cant remember now ...

Rain_Greyraven

I wonder if folks know that the outrage is free publicity for Zenimax.

Folks will buy it now just to give the easily angered a stroke.

It's kinda like how my guild handled the nasty tells we were getting for riding Apex mounts..... nothing says F you like 120 Apex mounts riding back and forth through Daggerfall.

Sheezabeast

Why oh why did this not surprise me...

Gilvoth

Jayne_Doe wrote: »

Just a little perspective here:

The original Dwarven Spider mount was 3000 crowns. The blue-light special reskin was 4000 crowns. So, this reskin is also 4000 crowns, discounted by 10% for ESO+, so 3600 crowns.

I was perfectly happy to spend the 3000 crowns on the original spider mount, since I wanted it and thought it was cool. Plus, it was only 500 crowns more than the usual price of 2500 for limited-time mounts.

The Dro-m'Athra senche mount was 4,000 crowns when it came out years ago. The frost horse was 3500 crowns, and it came out even earlier, like within a year of the CS launching. The kagouti mounts were around 4k, iirc. This mount certainly isn't out of line with a lot of other limited-time mounts. It's even cheaper than the most expensive mount - the great stag, which was 4500 when it came out.

But, was I hoping for a more substantial discount? Yes, I was, but looks like we're only getting 10% discounts on exclusive offers, which so far look to be only time-exclusive offers.

Also, I'm not saying that 3600 crowns or 4000 crowns or even 2500 crowns is cheap, but what I'm saying is that it's not the most expensive mount to date and it's not at all out of line with even the pricing of quite old mounts (Dro senche, e.g.).

ah yes... this is more inline with what i was remembering.
for some reason i could have sworn i paid 5000 for extreme rare mounts.
so im not sure what i paid to be honest but your list seems more realistic, because to me 3600 does seem not as bad as what people are saying.

Oberstein

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

Yay. More walking Dwemer toilets.

RIght on the spot.

Bruccius

Ya know, if people are willing to pay for it, why blame ZOS?

Todd Howard also told why Bethesda kept re-releasing Skyrim; because as long as people will buy it, they will create it.



Mounts are optional, there's no reason to complain over this mount more than any other. Let people buy a cosmetic if they want to buy a cosmetic. Why do you care?

Maotti

Deyirn wrote: »

I don't get why people even care about mounts and other cosmetics. I like my default brown horse and how I can use the Outfitting station to make my character look like regular NPC that blends in rather than look like some shiny superhero, like the rest of the shiny superheroes.

Oh wow, if you don't own Summerset they really want to slap that fact in your face i see. :P

Alpheu5

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Deyirn wrote: »

I don't get why people even care about mounts and other cosmetics. I like my default brown horse and how I can use the Outfitting station to make my character look like regular NPC that blends in rather than look like some shiny superhero, like the rest of the shiny superheroes.

Because when you've experienced the majority of the game after years of playing, there are a few things you fall back on to keep yourself entertained:

• Repeating PvE content
• PvPing
• Cosmetics

And this being a roleplaying game, cosmetics are a pretty important part of building a character's "lore", as it were. When so much of those cosmetics are locked behind tall RNG walls or are temporarily available for unreasonable amounts of time and then later placed behind those RNG walls, it's irksome to those that wish to make their characters complete without feeling highly pressured into obtaining the necessary items before they're gone.

++ schoolboys think that if somebody buys something "expensive" it can be done only to show off etc, they don't understand that for adult this 3.5k crowns is literally cost of one meal IRL and this or other mount can be bought it for roleplayin' reasons or like part of mount furniture for dwemer house etc.

I'd rather take the 7 McDonalds meals over 1 in game mount

Let me clarify - 15$ for reskin is absurd price for group of pixels.. in case if it is just group of pixels for person who buy it. But in case it is critical part of your RP experience.. this experience has more worth then 7 double whoppers. I won't buy this spider cause i don't care about ebon dwemers. But I bought that Auroran warhorse since one of my mains is something like Meridia champ. I really even don't appreciate much looks of this horse, but it was fitting my RP for this toon, so I just bought it for those dlc-price.

Really, the term "pixels" is used so incorrectly by so many people on these forums.

What you're talking about isn't a simple retexture (the pixels). That horse had an updated horse texture and new armor mesh made specifically for it. Coming up with new 3D models and the applicable textures requires a bit of work. It's the basic act of recoloring of a texture without even needing to change the normal map, slapping it onto the base model of old content, and charging the same or even a higher price that's under scrutiny.

Chicharron

Maotti wrote: »

Deyirn wrote: »

I don't get why people even care about mounts and other cosmetics. I like my default brown horse and how I can use the Outfitting station to make my character look like regular NPC that blends in rather than look like some shiny superhero, like the rest of the shiny superheroes.

Oh wow, if you don't own Summerset they really want to slap that fact in your face i see. :P

that's nothing, in the account of my wife, who only has the base game, they used to put this on the whole screen.



I do not know if they already removed it or do it once a day only.

Nijey

I'd like if we can change the color of this mount on the Dye Station. An electric blue/purple sound very cool !

Colecovision

molecule wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

I think it's priced correctly if it's going to be on the rare side.

It won't be rare, it is on discount for ESO+, then on general sale for all later in the month ( or a few weeks )

'The Ebon Steel Dwarven Spider mount will first be available in the Crown Store in November as an exclusive ESO Plus Deal, then later to all players in December'

You are not even paying over the top for an exclusive mount

Something needs to give here. If it's not rare, then lots of people are buying it. If that's the case , then the complaint on the price is just plain ridiculous. I actually agree that it's more than I would pay for something like that. So I think the price itself will keep the item rare, or at least reasonably uncommon. It really doesn't matter who has access to the purchase it. Also, who has that many crowns and doesn't sub to the game? Is that a big group?

The crazy thing to me is the number of posts I've read over the last year or so that complain about crown crates and say that if they put the item in the crown store, they'd just buy it. Well, here it is. Take it or leave it. I hope nearly all of you leave it and I can smile when I see one knowing that person must really love it.

AlienatedGoat

Bruccius wrote: »

Ya know, if people are willing to pay for it, why blame ZOS?

Todd Howard also told why Bethesda kept re-releasing Skyrim; because as long as people will buy it, they will create it.



Mounts are optional, there's no reason to complain over this mount more than any other. Let people buy a cosmetic if they want to buy a cosmetic. Why do you care?

Not complaining about this specific mount, but ZOS's cosmetics are grossly overpriced compared to actual game content, especially the mounts (up to 4500 crowns). Orsinium wasn't even this expensive. It's pretty crazy pricing.

And I would know. I've bought a ton of mounts (I currently have 61 mounts).

It's all well and good that it funds the game, but lets not pretend that these "cosmetics" are a value buy, ok?

ZirconJunkie

Everything in the crown store needs to have a zero removed from its price.

Sheezabeast

I can count on one hand how many people in-game I have seen with this mount.

People are speaking with their wallets.

Abigail

This is not a discount, it's an insult.

Tan9oSuccka

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Deyirn wrote: »

I don't get why people even care about mounts and other cosmetics. I like my default brown horse and how I can use the Outfitting station to make my character look like regular NPC that blends in rather than look like some shiny superhero, like the rest of the shiny superheroes.

Because when you've experienced the majority of the game after years of playing, there are a few things you fall back on to keep yourself entertained:

• Repeating PvE content
• PvPing
• Cosmetics

And this being a roleplaying game, cosmetics are a pretty important part of building a character's "lore", as it were. When so much of those cosmetics are locked behind tall RNG walls or are temporarily available for unreasonable amounts of time and then later placed behind those RNG walls, it's irksome to those that wish to make their characters complete without feeling highly pressured into obtaining the necessary items before they're gone.

++ schoolboys think that if somebody buys something "expensive" it can be done only to show off etc, they don't understand that for adult this 3.5k crowns is literally cost of one meal IRL and this or other mount can be bought it for roleplayin' reasons or like part of mount furniture for dwemer house etc.

I'd rather take the 7 McDonalds meals over 1 in game mount

For sure. Although I wouldn’t do McDs. Maybe Culver’s instead.

jbjondeaueb17_ESO

At least Steam players can't buy this expensive mount, they're not offline for nothing.

DaveMoeDee

Phage wrote: »

Bruccius wrote: »

Ya know, if people are willing to pay for it, why blame ZOS?

Todd Howard also told why Bethesda kept re-releasing Skyrim; because as long as people will buy it, they will create it.



Mounts are optional, there's no reason to complain over this mount more than any other. Let people buy a cosmetic if they want to buy a cosmetic. Why do you care?

Not complaining about this specific mount, but ZOS's cosmetics are grossly overpriced compared to actual game content, especially the mounts (up to 4500 crowns). Orsinium wasn't even this expensive. It's pretty crazy pricing.

And I would know. I've bought a ton of mounts (I currently have 61 mounts).

It's all well and good that it funds the game, but lets not pretend that these "cosmetics" are a value buy, ok?

So you want them to make game content more expensive to match cosmetics because game content is grossly under-priced? If not, what is the point of comparing that?

Value is subjective. I feel all the cosmetics in the game are worth a combined $0. But I will not question the value others place on a different horse skin.

People like what they like and people have different budgets.

Perwulf

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

ah yes... this is more inline with what i was remembering.
for some reason i could have sworn i paid 5000 for extreme rare mounts.
so im not sure what i paid to be honest but your list seems more realistic, because to me 3600 does seem not as bad as what people are saying.

Outside the so called "ESO+ privileges," people might not bat an eye but this as a discounted price for their loyal ESO+ subscribers is them waving their middle finger.

Jakx

I worry about the health and future of the game since ZOS has resorted to crown store swindling. Are they that desperate for income now?

Jeremy

Robvenom wrote: »

I would be embarrassed to ride that mount.

Might as well hold a big red sign saying "I am part of the problem".

I agree with the consensus here that it's a stupid looking mount that costs too much.

But what "problem" does it create when players buy it?

Bhaal5

Jeremy wrote: »

Robvenom wrote: »

I would be embarrassed to ride that mount.

Might as well hold a big red sign saying "I am part of the problem".

I agree with the consensus here that it's a stupid looking mount that costs too much.

But what "problem" does it create when players buy it?

Encourages zos to continue the overcharging of half developed products

Jeremy

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

Robvenom wrote: »

I would be embarrassed to ride that mount.

Might as well hold a big red sign saying "I am part of the problem".

I agree with the consensus here that it's a stupid looking mount that costs too much.

But what "problem" does it create when players buy it?

Encourages zos to continue the overcharging of half developed products

But does it actually do that?

For example: people have been buying houses for ridiculous prices and it lead to ZoS giving the entire server a free manor. And I have picked up some really cool mounts lately for very cheap (like the Black Senche Lion and striped wolf).

It might be that rich or devoted players who buy all these re-skinned mounts just gives the developers more time and money to create extra stuff the rest of us can get for free. Murkmire comes to mind too.

I guess my point is I've noticed ESO being more generous lately, not less so. Some crappy mounts only rich or unusual players would probably want in the crown store seems like a small price to pay for that.

haukke

I am also buying it

gepe87

Whats the undiscounted price? 5000 C? For a dyed spider mount that already was available?

alenae1b14_ESO

Ridiculous pricing IMO and not unique.