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Nerf Endless fury

  • Donny_Vito
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    Can we please just have all Sorcs deleted from the servers please? That would solve so many problems.
  • Ranger209
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    Thing is even if this skill wasn't in the game people would be complaining about the next skill in line that is stealing their kills, tornado, radiant destruction, poison arrow, etc...In reality there is a line at the chopping block, it is never just one thing, and when one gets chopped the next in line steps up to the block., and the same conversations take place all over again with the next supposedly OP skill.
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    No.
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  • BigBadVolk
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    I must say this is the best nerf sorc thread I ever seen! :D:trollface:
    Feanor wrote: »
    Conduit0 wrote: »
    Does anyone else appreciate the irony of someone named "killmove" complaining about an execute?

    The issue here is it wasn’t his kill move.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DC9xez5pxU
    Edited by BigBadVolk on October 30, 2018 11:45PM
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  • Vahrokh
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    Almost 1 week without new nerf sorcs threads really made me worried.

    Now I feel at peace, knowing ZOS has now more juicy suggestions about how to butcher our class some more.

    People really have no shame with these constant nerfs demands.
    Edited by Vahrokh on October 31, 2018 12:29AM
  • Strider__Roshin
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    Why nerf the move because it overperforms in BGs? Just change the way the scoring works with Fury. Mage's Fury is balanced now. Nerfing it to make it balanced in BGs will make it useless in every other aspect. You're approaching this incorrectly.
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    Why are people so focused on "kill stealing"? Do you people never attack someone who is obviously going to die? Like ever? Why don't we make everything a duel? Or is this some sort of FPS game where more kills you have larger your e-peen becomes?

    And as for OP, lol. Let's nerf Steel Tornado too. Because it also kills me at lower health. Nerf every executes too so that DKs and Wardens don't feel bad about having no executes.
    Edited by IZZEFlameLash on October 31, 2018 3:38AM
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  • killmove
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    This game is full of sorcs that should be named Elder Sorc Online. *** this....
  • SugaComa
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    That’s why it’s called an execute.

    this need to be changed to 10% below health because 20% of 20k means 5k instant dmg -> instant kill

    He misunderstood this skill totally ...

    Mathematics is not your strong suite is it ?
  • SugaComa
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    Why are people so focused on "kill stealing"? Do you people never attack someone who is obviously going to die? Like ever? Why don't we make everything a duel? Or is this some sort of FPS game where more kills you have larger your e-peen becomes?

    And as for OP, lol. Let's nerf Steel Tornado too. Because it also kills me at lower health. Nerf every executes too so that DKs and Wardens don't feel bad about having no executes.

    I do think endless fury needs a change ...

    RD does j creased damage to targets under 20% what it doesn't do is is explode on you when you drop below 20% for an instant kill

    Now I'm not saying NERF it ... I'm saying change it, I'm all for it being an execute ... But it should be altered ...

    And here is why ...

    Endless fury

    Call down lighting to strike an enemy for 311 Shock Damage.

    If target enemy’s Health falls below 20% within 4 seconds, an explosion deals an additional 1094 Shock Damage to the target and 198 Shock Damage to other enemies nearby.

    If an enemy is killed by this ability, you restore 3k magic

    So how is an execute doing 311 damage at over 20% doing 4k to 5k damage in an instant when it only deals 1k additional damage

    I would have it so it drains Xamount over 2seconds similar to RD so it's a thunderstorm over head that like RD can be healed through but still serves as an execute if you're not paying attention

  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    SugaComa wrote: »

    Endless fury

    Call down lighting to strike an enemy for 311 Shock Damage.

    If target enemy’s Health falls below 20% within 4 seconds, an explosion deals an additional 1094 Shock Damage to the target and 198 Shock Damage to other enemies nearby.

    If an enemy is killed by this ability, you restore 3k magic

    So how is an execute doing 311 damage at over 20% doing 4k to 5k damage in an instant when it only deals 1k additional damage


    This simply has to be joke.

    Oh right, it's the guy that argues circle of protection is so much better than restoring focus. Right...
    Edited by Chilly-McFreeze on October 31, 2018 7:23PM
  • Arkangeloski
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    I had executed ppl with killers blade for 17k and 2h executioner for 14k and ppl are complaining about a miserable 5k lol!! Ridiculous... and BTW I'm a nb main :) for starters, and for those saying this is sum nb spreading hate towards sorcs well you are all wrong I don't share any opinions with other nb's, other than what is really broken in the game and thats everybody not just me ... and in this case sorcs execute is working as intended, if op didn't have stamina to dodge roll it he was dead anyway and if he did had Stam and didn't dodge roll it's a l2p issue you choose which one lol but for real...I cringe everytime i see a nerf sorcs thread and one or more biased potato(es) blame night blades for every nerf they get :)
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    killmove wrote: »
    This game is full of sorcs that should be named Elder Sorc Online. *** this....

    Dont let the door hit you on the way out. If you fall below 20% health, news flash, you were dead anyway. Also, 20k health is not enough, even for BGs. Multiple L2P issues occurring simultaneously.
  • SugaComa
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    SugaComa wrote: »

    Endless fury

    Call down lighting to strike an enemy for 311 Shock Damage.

    If target enemy’s Health falls below 20% within 4 seconds, an explosion deals an additional 1094 Shock Damage to the target and 198 Shock Damage to other enemies nearby.

    If an enemy is killed by this ability, you restore 3k magic

    So how is an execute doing 311 damage at over 20% doing 4k to 5k damage in an instant when it only deals 1k additional damage


    This simply has to be joke.

    Oh right, it's the guy that argues circle of protection is so much better than restoring focus. Right...

    Never argued that ... I asked a question about two skills I didn't understand as I don't run stam ... But thanks for playing

    As for where I got that information ...

    The tool tip on the web when I googled it ....

    https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Endless+Fury
    Edited by SugaComa on November 1, 2018 1:30AM
  • Kikke
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    Again; a ability you get the chance to dodge TWICE, capped at 20% health for execute (NB got 25% and templar 50%), It's the slowest execute to land and it has been infested with bugs for over a year. Yet people scream for nerfs because a endless fury was on his death recap...

    Amazing!

    Please do change our execute tho, for a 25% capped DIRECT execute with PORPER damage scaling. Then we can talk.
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  • killahsin
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    the best part is ZoS clearly balances the game based on posts like this.
  • Minalan
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    killahsin wrote: »
    the best part is ZoS clearly balances the game based on posts like this.

    The devs are probably taking notes right now.
    They absolutely love bad deas.
    Edited by Minalan on November 1, 2018 5:35AM
  • IndorilArwynLlethran
    No. Dear ZOS, keep your nerfhammer sheathed, plz. Better add an IQ test for players.
  • RedRook
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    No.

    (And I don't even play magsorc.)
  • Biro123
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    Isn't it bout time the Dev's started automatically closing nerf-sorc threads now for trolling?
    Minalan owes me a beer.

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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    SugaComa wrote: »
    SugaComa wrote: »

    Endless fury

    Call down lighting to strike an enemy for 311 Shock Damage.

    If target enemy’s Health falls below 20% within 4 seconds, an explosion deals an additional 1094 Shock Damage to the target and 198 Shock Damage to other enemies nearby.

    If an enemy is killed by this ability, you restore 3k magic

    So how is an execute doing 311 damage at over 20% doing 4k to 5k damage in an instant when it only deals 1k additional damage


    This simply has to be joke.

    Oh right, it's the guy that argues circle of protection is so much better than restoring focus. Right...

    Never argued that ... I asked a question about two skills I didn't understand as I don't run stam ... But thanks for playing

    As for where I got that information ...

    The tool tip on the web when I googled it ....

    https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Endless+Fury

    @SugaComa

    You're mixing up the tooltips you get from a wiki page with the execute dmg it does on you in game. If you haven't noticed, tooltips (and damage) will go up if you build into max resources and spell damage.

    I don't know what baseline they use for the tooltips, I guess a completely naked char without cp, gear, passives or anything. But those 311 dmg you see on that page is not what you will have as a tooltip in game. Or do you believe nightblades favourite ulti does merely 1.3k dmg as well?

    https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Incapacitating+Strike

    E: and before you ask: yes, that 1k additional dmg will go up as well
    Edited by Chilly-McFreeze on November 1, 2018 11:21AM
  • usmguy1234
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    Biro123 wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    I personally dislike the debuff/effect that stays on you for 4 seconds when hit by fury. If I could change one thing about the skill it would be to remove that lingering effect, but raise the execute threshold as a compensation. But in general I´m fine with the skill.
    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    killmove wrote: »
    this skill is broken, it always kills me in bg with 5k instant dmg.

    wtf ZOS ????

    this need to be changed to 10% below health because 20% of 20k means 5k instant dmg -> instant kill

    I believe it's safe to say it's a l2p issue at this point. Isn't that what the nightblades say? Hey guys am I doing this right?

    Not bad, but to be a true pro, you need a 'Git Gud' on the end too!

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  • SugaComa
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    SugaComa wrote: »
    SugaComa wrote: »

    Endless fury

    Call down lighting to strike an enemy for 311 Shock Damage.

    If target enemy’s Health falls below 20% within 4 seconds, an explosion deals an additional 1094 Shock Damage to the target and 198 Shock Damage to other enemies nearby.

    If an enemy is killed by this ability, you restore 3k magic

    So how is an execute doing 311 damage at over 20% doing 4k to 5k damage in an instant when it only deals 1k additional damage


    This simply has to be joke.

    Oh right, it's the guy that argues circle of protection is so much better than restoring focus. Right...

    Never argued that ... I asked a question about two skills I didn't understand as I don't run stam ... But thanks for playing

    As for where I got that information ...

    The tool tip on the web when I googled it ....

    https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Endless+Fury

    @SugaComa

    You're mixing up the tooltips you get from a wiki page with the execute dmg it does on you in game. If you haven't noticed, tooltips (and damage) will go up if you build into max resources and spell damage.

    I don't know what baseline they use for the tooltips, I guess a completely naked char without cp, gear, passives or anything. But those 311 dmg you see on that page is not what you will have as a tooltip in game. Or do you believe nightblades favourite ulti does merely 1.3k dmg as well?

    https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Incapacitating+Strike

    E: and before you ask: yes, that 1k additional dmg will go up as well

    I'm gonna have to stop using that site ...

    I get it goes up, but I didn't expect it to go up like 500%
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    SugaComa wrote: »
    SugaComa wrote: »
    SugaComa wrote: »

    Endless fury

    Call down lighting to strike an enemy for 311 Shock Damage.

    If target enemy’s Health falls below 20% within 4 seconds, an explosion deals an additional 1094 Shock Damage to the target and 198 Shock Damage to other enemies nearby.

    If an enemy is killed by this ability, you restore 3k magic

    So how is an execute doing 311 damage at over 20% doing 4k to 5k damage in an instant when it only deals 1k additional damage


    This simply has to be joke.

    Oh right, it's the guy that argues circle of protection is so much better than restoring focus. Right...

    Never argued that ... I asked a question about two skills I didn't understand as I don't run stam ... But thanks for playing

    As for where I got that information ...

    The tool tip on the web when I googled it ....

    https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Endless+Fury

    @SugaComa

    You're mixing up the tooltips you get from a wiki page with the execute dmg it does on you in game. If you haven't noticed, tooltips (and damage) will go up if you build into max resources and spell damage.

    I don't know what baseline they use for the tooltips, I guess a completely naked char without cp, gear, passives or anything. But those 311 dmg you see on that page is not what you will have as a tooltip in game. Or do you believe nightblades favourite ulti does merely 1.3k dmg as well?

    https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Incapacitating+Strike

    E: and before you ask: yes, that 1k additional dmg will go up as well

    I'm gonna have to stop using that site ...

    I get it goes up, but I didn't expect it to go up like 500%

    Nah, that site is good for basic knowledge, but it only gives you a basic tooltip that is not very good for comparing. There are other sites that let you create entire builds with more exact tooltips, like the UESP build editor.

    And for the 500%... it all depends on your build. You can achieve super high tooltips but the real dmg you inflict can be quite low, depending on your penetration, your opponents build and involved buffs/debuffs/actions (protection, maim, vampirism, block etc.) or vice versa. E.g. wiki shows 1.2k Dawnbreaker of smiting tooltip. However, it's entirely possible to raise that tooltip to 20k+.
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  • killmove
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    it's really anoying to still see sorcs ruling battleground. the game is not balanced at all !!!
  • JobooAGS
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    killmove wrote: »
    it's really anoying to still see sorcs ruling battleground. the game is not balanced at all !!!

    Sorcs ruling bgs?! Lol if anything it is dks and nbs
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    killmove wrote: »
    it's really anoying to still see sorcs ruling battleground. the game is not balanced at all !!!

    Surely, we are totally OP now, what with our tiny health, pathetic shields, laughable sustain, comparatively weak single target damage, inability to break free, fatigue from block, can't unsnare... The only thing sorcs rule in BG is death count. We can get you from a distance, but please don't come near us, we can't run away further than a few feet. Lol.

    I smell troll in this thread. Kill it, kill it with fire!
    Edited by mairwen85 on November 1, 2018 5:43PM
  • killmove
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    JobooAGS wrote: »
    killmove wrote: »
    it's really anoying to still see sorcs ruling battleground. the game is not balanced at all !!!

    Sorcs ruling bgs?! Lol if anything it is dks and nbs

    just look at how many kills sorcs got, you'll understand better.
    sorcs are always top score with k/d
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