Do you like the changes to the bridges and milegates?

killahsin

Yes

Nermy wrote: »

Any change to the map makes it a bit more interesting for those of us who have been there since release. Changes strategies which we haven't even began to think about.

I have no problem with the outposts being closer to here or the other alliance has an advantage, it's all relative.

Anyway, whatever changes they make won't stop the guys who PvDoor every morning, just makes it more interesting for prime time.

Remember everyone when you play a game you should only play it in 'my' primetime. This pvdoor ninja capping nonsense the community has cried about since day 1 is hilarious.

evoniee

Like the idea but not the implementation

-the milegate need a rework as it benefit more than bridge.
-get rid of the small passage, it make all of bridge and milegate useless
-AD need rework cause milegate > bridge, cause 1 faction has access on milegate wall and the other faction can only pass from middle.
-EP need rework to swap crops and the outpost.

Aztlan

Yes

Love it. Anything to shake things up a bit.

smee_z

Like the idea but not the implementation

Am glad they made changes in the Cyrodiil map.

However, may I suggest the following changes please,

1. Destroyed mile gates should not allow passage from both sides. Right now, there's always 1 side with stairs where you can go over.
2. Mile gates and bridges should be easily destroyed but really hard to repair.

frozywozy

I like the fact that when you're getting double teamed, you can entirely shut down one side from attacking and focus mainly on defending from the other side until you regain momentum.

NightAngel690

Yes

In terms of strategy, destructible bridges are awesome! If your alliance owns the bridges, all you have to do is break them and set up counter siege to prevent the enemy from repairing them!
A guildie in my alliance said he earned about 100k AP just by shooting meatbags across the river at people trying play bob the builder in 20minutes.
This is also a bombers haven as it forces someone to take the pontoon bridge

XamXam777

Yes

Overall I do like the changes.

But, I feel that bridges and milegates can be repaired too quickly. Should be reduced to at least 5k to be in line with door and wall repairs.

The other thing is there still seem to be A LOT of people who are unaware of the existence of the Caves and Goat Bridge? So perhaps they need to be marked more clearly on the map? Idk... Haha!

Brotherchaotic

So I'm seeing a flaw especially with no alliance lock. So you want to attack a keep on the other side but your neighboring alliance destroyed all 3 mile gates in your 3 paths. What do you do if they are constantly damaging it? Even worse, how about a troll who's on your faction right now hitting the gate you're trying to repair? Am I missing a solution to getting around?

An_An

No

I think most people who voted Yes play in populated campaigns.

In low pop campaigns, this absolutely kills PvP.

frozywozy

An_An wrote: »

I think most people who voted Yes play in populated campaigns.

In low pop campaigns, this absolutely kills PvP.

I don't think it kill pvp in low pop campaigns, I think it's just useless. The map has to be very active to make this system works, and when it does it can create some very interesting new strategies. Sadly most people don't care about this stuff and come only to kill, die, respawn, repeat.

Yesterday around midnight EST in Vivec PC NA we were getting hammered by both factions (what a surprise). AD had the outter down at Brk with their whole faction and DC was about to make a strong push from Bleakers to Chal so I shut down the milegate and kept it flagged for 30mins until EP defended Brk successfully. It was funny to see the 20-30 DC just running around like chickens on the other side.

Jaimeh

Yes, in theory because if there is good communication within a faction it can make for smart strategies. I would have prefered it if they got damaged a bit faster, and also maybe my UI was bugged, but I didn't get any AP from repairing them? I think it will be more taken advantage of when people get used to it... the other day one person was repairing a gate, while 15 people looked on from behind, it was both sad and hilarious.

montiferus

No

I voted no. Still early on console but from what I have seen so far is you get a bunch of AD and EP on either side of the bridge shooting siege at it. We literally had to wipe a group 4 times before they stopped coming back. It was like they were mindless zombies solely focused on taking Alessia Bridge down. Really bizarre.

Jules

No

Cool idea in theory, but definitely not at the expense of being able to move around the map freely (TO GET TO PVP!) or at the expense of our favorite line of site nooks and crannies for small scale. All in all just bonkers.

Dojohoda

I like the goats (animals in cyrodiil !). Sometimes the goats are not there and I would like the cyrodiil goat killers to be shown on the map and killable by anyone for an hour or so.


On topic- Reguarding the destructible bottlenecks, I am neutral. I don't think it matters if I like them; the issue for me to figure out the various ways I can use the new feature to my advantage.

So far, players are taking advantage of the destructible bottlenecks and, from that, we are working with the bottlenecks.


Foot note: lately, I PVP mostly in Kyne, and that's where my observations reguarding the topic are gathered.

Sacredx

Yes

The addition of destructible bridges and milegates is a positive step forward. It adds depth to the gameplay. It adds dynamic zones, players and teams now have extra choices at their disposal that they have not had before. That in itself is a plus for me.

Master_Kas

Yes

Yes, wish the bridges could be destroyed a bit faster tough. Watching people fall into fish as it breaks must be one of the most statisfying things

Xsorus

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoyuFM-__w

ya

this makes me happy

zyk

Like the idea but not the implementation

As time goes on, it becomes clear that ZOS made a huge mistake in the asymmetrical design of the milegates. I'm not sure how they went live with the current design. Both EP and DC have gates they can partially destroy but may still cross, but AD does not.

We see the practical impact of this every night with the middle portion of Ash gate routinely destroyed to prevent access from the South while dozens of DC casually hop over it from the North.

I hope ZOS recognizes this and comes up with a solution quickly instead of letting it drag on for months or years.

SHADOW2KK

No

Meh....Battlefield has been doing it way better for years and years and with no lag, so nope.

idk

Like the idea but not the implementation

It seemed like a great idea at first and it seems to offer a great dynamic. However, after seeing it for a few weeks it has seemed to have become a stumbling block without offering anything interesting. I see many already going through the alternate paths that cannot be blocked.

Adding to this. combat around these points when they are destroyed is pretty lack luster and that is when the campaign is busy.

I think these areas are lacking what pretty much every area has, and that is varied terrain to fight in. When they are destroyed you can only fight on one side or the other since the top gets pretty destroyed.

So in the end it seems to do more harm than good in Cyro. I think it is a case that this was just not thought through which has always been an issue with Zos.

Delsskia

Like the idea but not the implementation

I do like the idea, but I don't care for a couple of the inconsistencies. For example, there's only 1 way to cross a bridge but 3 ways to get past a mile gate. Invisible barriers that prevent going over the top of mile gates would be a fair fix. Also, it takes forever to actually kill the bridges and gates but they can be repaired by 1 person in mere seconds, which kind of negates the purpose for destroying them.

Katahdin

Yes

Now that I've had a chance to really play it with the new bridges/gates, I do think it makes the gameplay more interesting out there, at least on Vivec NA

DisgracefulMind

Yes

Xsorus wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoyuFM-__w

ya

this makes me happy

I'm glad xD I have quite a few more clips of dropping people into the fishies haha

keto3000

l

smee_z wrote: »

Am glad they made changes in the Cyrodiil map.

However, may I suggest the following changes please,

1. Destroyed mile gates should not allow passage from both sides. Right now, there's always 1 side with stairs where you can go over.
2. Mile gates and bridges should be easily destroyed but really hard to repair.

AGREE!

Once again, AD gets the shorter end of this stick.

Destroying any of the 3 bridges bet AD & EP territory means neither side can pass until repaired.

HOWEVER, destroying any of the 3 mile gates bet AD & DC territory only prohibits AD from passing yet allows DC to freely pass.

This def needs to be changed so that destruction of the Center mileage prohibits passage to both sides.

Same goes for EP/DC mile gates.

Destruction of bridges and mile gates should prohibit passage from both sides.

baronzilch

No

Came out of the box a broken mechanic and that's where it will stay. Gates/bridges usually hover around 27% (just enough to cross/enter) and they are being ignored altogether more and more.

Destroyed a bridge the other day by myself - despite starting at only ~40% it was a tedious, mind numbing experience. I won't ever do that again.

What's even the point when you have easy work-arounds (tunnels/fishing village)?

Overall, a new map is always fresh and exciting for a bit, but, this one has done nothing to alleviate any of the prior map's shortcomings - seemingly exacerbating the previous problems.

edit: was cranky, softened my language a bit.