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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

THE SERVER PERFORMANCE OF THIS GAME IS UNACCEPTABLE

  • JinMori
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    And would you look at that today i cannot join banished cells 2 because infinite loading screens, when i logged on again i was teleported in the middle of the sea and was killed by slaugherfishes absolutely pathetic.

    Also i got kicked, and had to wait for the deserter debuff, because of your *** servers.

    By the way yesterday was sanctum ophidia, see what i meant when i said everyday something new? And also i couldn't complete the voldenfell quest.

    You can afford to give away a notable home, but you cannot afford a decent server, *** bs
    Edited by JinMori on September 30, 2018 5:03PM
  • Universe
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    JinMori wrote: »
    And would you look at that today i cannot join banished cells 2 because infinite loading screens, when i logged on again i was teleported in the middle of the sea and was killed by slaugherfishes absolutely pathetic.

    Also i got kicked, and had to wait for the deserter debuff, because of your *** servers.

    By the way yesterday was sanctum ophidia, see what i meant when i said everyday something new? And also i couldn't complete the voldenfell quest.

    You can afford to give away a notable home, but you cannot afford a decent server, *** bs

    The Slaughterfish have the best KDR in ESO(0:10000000) and one of the reasons for that is this weird bug :D
    At least ZOS are feeding them well :p
    Edited by Universe on September 30, 2018 5:33PM
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • nemisan
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    Repair your patch..launcher...game options...hit repair :) I'm running eso on a relic PC ...no hassle .. no lag.. no ping issues...enjoy :)
  • Maryal
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    Its pretty sad when the 'pvp lag' is occurring in pve content (dungeons). It used to be that when the lag was horrendous in pvp, I could always go pve and solo a dungeon (without lag). Not so anymore. Press a button for a skill, ability, a dodge roll, or even bar swap and there is a noticeable time delay between pressing the button and the action occurring (if the action even occurs) ... the problem is when I keep dying because of it.

    note: pc/na
    Edited by Maryal on September 30, 2018 5:42PM
  • Kadoin
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    I logged on to EU and I can tell you I prefer NA by far...
  • Neoealth
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    Also just wanted to mention, the never ending loading screens are still a thing.

    I always sing along to this when it happens to me, but I say "loading screen" instead of story.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geVYIHOat5o
  • JinMori
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    oh, by the way, the wayrest severs bug still isn't fixed.... and meteor dot only lasting 11.8 sec, even though it should be 12..... How much time zos?
    Edited by JinMori on September 30, 2018 9:01PM
  • Vorthor
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    I also like the short loading screen you often get in Cyrodiil, it interrupts what you were doing or pulls you out of the siege weapon you were using. Not as fun as the infinite loading screen but quite effective !
  • Universe
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    I logged on to EU and I can tell you I prefer NA by far...

    While some of the issues are less noticeable on one or more of the servers, most of the issues are not limited to one server or platform(NA and EU servers have severe issues).
    Edited by Universe on October 1, 2018 10:53AM
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • Nicko_Lps
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    gabriebe wrote: »
    FFS, is it so damn hard to ask for a game that runs? I understand that Vivec is a laggy mess, but man every time my group tries to go in there there is almost never a moment where the full team is online and isn't trying to log back, or in the process of disconnecting. Even PvE, it's pretty common for people to crash when the trial start, midway through a boss, on trash mobs, etc.

    ZOS has said in the past they have one, one whole, one entire engineer looking at these issues. IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL RESSOURCES ABOUT THIS?

    When organized groups spamming their amazingly looking animations without a serious GDC in both PVE and PVP you get ESO performance.

    When 30man raids in WoW spam their silly looking animations with 0.8s GDC plus hunters and DK's call 10 pets each, everything works fine.

    In cyrodiil i keep an eye on my MS, when it hits 350+ i KNOW a zerg is nearby and i start to look around. At least there is a positive side of that outstanding ESO performance.
  • Saluka
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    Until this problem is resolved I won't be playing anymore. So, I'll be at the game over that way --->
  • shaielzafine
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    nemisan wrote: »
    Repair your patch..launcher...game options...hit repair :) I'm running eso on a relic PC ...no hassle .. no lag.. no ping issues...enjoy :)

    Um I really wish this worked, but it doesn't. And I don't have a potato PC either. There's definitely ping spikes, lag, and bugs like skill lag where things don't go off or rubberbanding especially when getting CC'ed.
  • Gnozo
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    I love this games combat and pvp. Big map, constant action. Really nice.

    It just makes me sad when looking at the Performance of this game. 3k euro pc and sometimes i am at 24fps. I can handle this but not the lag.

    Trying to cast skills and you literally need to press the button 4 times, channeled skills jump from 1 sec cast time to 5 sec cast time. Dodge roll is a death sentence cause skills are locked for 5 seconds after dodge roll.

    Some skills dont render properly. My health droping really hard and i die and see ballista in my death recap. Rewatching the footage shows me that the arrows from ballista didnt render leaving you without any clue what is happening.

    Standing still for 2 seconds before the fear animation starts.

    Unable to cast skills cause you are standing in a negate but the game doesnt render the negate.

    Snipe health desync.

    Just sad that cyro havent left beta since 4 years.

    This game could be pvp MMORPG number 1 without this huge lag.
  • Gythral
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    nemisan wrote: »
    Repair your patch..launcher...game options...hit repair :) I'm running eso on a relic PC ...no hassle .. no lag.. no ping issues...enjoy :)

    This does nothing to fix the poor peering to/from the servers, the server network issues or the server code issues or the we only ever put out 2 days hamster feed on a Monday or Wednesday and this is why the servers never perform to spec.
    :wink:
    “Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
    Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
    Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy
  • gepe87
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    Maybe on ESO 2 eheh
    Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General

    If you see edits on my replies: typos. English isn't my main language
  • Universe
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    gabriebe wrote: »
    FFS, is it so damn hard to ask for a game that runs? I understand that Vivec is a laggy mess, but man every time my group tries to go in there there is almost never a moment where the full team is online and isn't trying to log back, or in the process of disconnecting. Even PvE, it's pretty common for people to crash when the trial start, midway through a boss, on trash mobs, etc.

    ZOS has said in the past they have one, one whole, one entire engineer looking at these issues. IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL RESSOURCES ABOUT THIS?

    When organized groups spamming their amazingly looking animations without a serious GDC in both PVE and PVP you get ESO performance.

    When 30man raids in WoW spam their silly looking animations with 0.8s GDC plus hunters and DK's call 10 pets each, everything works fine.

    In cyrodiil i keep an eye on my MS, when it hits 350+ i KNOW a zerg is nearby and i start to look around. At least there is a positive side of that outstanding ESO performance.

    The actions of players have some affect on server performance but there are more reasons for poor performance, such as poor infrastructure and bad networking at ZOS side.
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • LeeNordTank
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    Yes, the lag is ridiculous 😟
  • Donny_Vito
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    Gotta love using rapids on your horse to get back to the fight quickly at the keep, and then as soon as you show up you get the loading screen. Reload and you're dead. Rinse, repeat.

    At least have some sort of logic check so that if I'm in a loading screen I can't take any effing damage. It's ridiculous.
    Edited by Donny_Vito on October 1, 2018 4:17PM
  • Nicko_Lps
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    Universe wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    gabriebe wrote: »
    FFS, is it so damn hard to ask for a game that runs? I understand that Vivec is a laggy mess, but man every time my group tries to go in there there is almost never a moment where the full team is online and isn't trying to log back, or in the process of disconnecting. Even PvE, it's pretty common for people to crash when the trial start, midway through a boss, on trash mobs, etc.

    ZOS has said in the past they have one, one whole, one entire engineer looking at these issues. IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL RESSOURCES ABOUT THIS?

    When organized groups spamming their amazingly looking animations without a serious GDC in both PVE and PVP you get ESO performance.

    When 30man raids in WoW spam their silly looking animations with 0.8s GDC plus hunters and DK's call 10 pets each, everything works fine.

    In cyrodiil i keep an eye on my MS, when it hits 350+ i KNOW a zerg is nearby and i start to look around. At least there is a positive side of that outstanding ESO performance.

    The actions of players have some affect on server performance but there are more reasons for poor performance, such as poor infrastructure and bad networking at ZOS side.

    When a zergSorc streaks infront of an LFG crowd to mass stun, that CC break takes around 1or2 sec. When zergs farm and spam their buttons mindlessly they purposely induce lag and exploit the games bad performance in their advance, i will keep blaming them since during morning or night the game is fine.

    Its not the server performance, the game engine is outdated it was a total failure when SWToR used but ZoS used it without caring. Server performance would be the by far easiest thing to fix.
  • Tulare_Verlaris
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    gabriebe wrote: »
    FFS, is it so damn hard to ask for a game that runs? I understand that Vivec is a laggy mess, but man every time my group tries to go in there there is almost never a moment where the full team is online and isn't trying to log back, or in the process of disconnecting. Even PvE, it's pretty common for people to crash when the trial start, midway through a boss, on trash mobs, etc.

    ZOS has said in the past they have one, one whole, one entire engineer looking at these issues. IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL RESSOURCES ABOUT THIS?

    When organized groups spamming their amazingly looking animations without a serious GDC in both PVE and PVP you get ESO performance.

    When 30man raids in WoW spam their silly looking animations with 0.8s GDC plus hunters and DK's call 10 pets each, everything works fine.

    In cyrodiil i keep an eye on my MS, when it hits 350+ i KNOW a zerg is nearby and i start to look around. At least there is a positive side of that outstanding ESO performance.

    The actions of players have some affect on server performance but there are more reasons for poor performance, such as poor infrastructure and bad networking at ZOS side.

    When a zergSorc streaks infront of an LFG crowd to mass stun, that CC break takes around 1or2 sec. When zergs farm and spam their buttons mindlessly they purposely induce lag and exploit the games bad performance in their advance, i will keep blaming them since during morning or night the game is fine.

    Its not the server performance, the game engine is outdated it was a total failure when SWToR used but ZoS used it without caring. Server performance would be the by far easiest thing to fix.

    If this was the case, then it would be like this at all times. It is clearly happening at peak times mainly, or is markedly worse than other times. It is, however, getting worse and worse to the point now it is just becoming a complete ball-ache to log in and bother to do anything...
    Still in the queue, spamming "F"...
  • Ilithyania
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    Universe wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    gabriebe wrote: »
    FFS, is it so damn hard to ask for a game that runs? I understand that Vivec is a laggy mess, but man every time my group tries to go in there there is almost never a moment where the full team is online and isn't trying to log back, or in the process of disconnecting. Even PvE, it's pretty common for people to crash when the trial start, midway through a boss, on trash mobs, etc.

    ZOS has said in the past they have one, one whole, one entire engineer looking at these issues. IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL RESSOURCES ABOUT THIS?

    When organized groups spamming their amazingly looking animations without a serious GDC in both PVE and PVP you get ESO performance.

    When 30man raids in WoW spam their silly looking animations with 0.8s GDC plus hunters and DK's call 10 pets each, everything works fine.

    In cyrodiil i keep an eye on my MS, when it hits 350+ i KNOW a zerg is nearby and i start to look around. At least there is a positive side of that outstanding ESO performance.

    The actions of players have some affect on server performance but there are more reasons for poor performance, such as poor infrastructure and bad networking at ZOS side.

    WOW also has mickey mouse graphics from 1998. no wonder :p
    PC
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Tandor wrote: »
    rumple9 wrote: »
    If everyone cancels their sub for a month they will fix it pretty darn quick

    Money talks. Vote with your wallets

    All it would arguably need is for those who have these problems to cancel their sub, there's absolutely no reason for everyone to cancel because not everyone has these problems. If, however, the problems are as widespread as some would claim then if all those affected canceled then that should do the trick.

    What I would really like is to know what percent of the playerbase actively PVPs. I believe it when players say they dont have any issues in this game because the same is true of me.... until I step foot into cyro. It is really rare that I ever have problems in PVE content. Sure it happens, but its usually patch week, and I am not alone.

    So lets say 80% of the active PVPers cancelled their subs tomorrow? I wonder how many subs that actually is, and what percent of the total subs it actually is. Is it possible that they would just treat it like a necroctic limb and simply cut it off at that point? (i.e. just abandon pvp?) I am just not sure the PVP community is large enough to speak with their wallets, even if they got organized and wanted to actually do it.
  • Tandor
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    Tandor wrote: »
    rumple9 wrote: »
    If everyone cancels their sub for a month they will fix it pretty darn quick

    Money talks. Vote with your wallets

    All it would arguably need is for those who have these problems to cancel their sub, there's absolutely no reason for everyone to cancel because not everyone has these problems. If, however, the problems are as widespread as some would claim then if all those affected canceled then that should do the trick.

    What I would really like is to know what percent of the playerbase actively PVPs. I believe it when players say they dont have any issues in this game because the same is true of me.... until I step foot into cyro. It is really rare that I ever have problems in PVE content. Sure it happens, but its usually patch week, and I am not alone.

    So lets say 80% of the active PVPers cancelled their subs tomorrow? I wonder how many subs that actually is, and what percent of the total subs it actually is. Is it possible that they would just treat it like a necroctic limb and simply cut it off at that point? (i.e. just abandon pvp?) I am just not sure the PVP community is large enough to speak with their wallets, even if they got organized and wanted to actually do it.

    There was a thread not that long ago in which someone claimed to have seen the tally of achievements earned on a console platform (where such data is more easily found) by those who had accessed Cyrodiil for the first time. From memory it was something like 12% of the playerbase (or total characters, I forget the actual definitions) and didn't differentiate between those who visited the zone once to get the achievement and those who regularly PvP'd there.

    Does anyone else recall the thread/stats or have a link to it? As I recall it's the only (however unreliable) indication we've ever had of the scale of the PvP population.
  • Vorthor
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    This week-end, it was particularly fun trying to bar-swap.
    I'm looking forward next week-end >>
  • rollingphoneseb17_ESO
    I wish that one day I can run this game 144 FPS without drops.
  • Universe
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    I wish that one day I can run this game 144 FPS without drops.

    Well, minimum of 60 FPS will be good enough, anything higher than that you won't be able to notice :)
    Though fps is just a minor issue compared to issues like: terrible server connectivity, combat balance, cheating etc.

    I was hoping that ZOS will at least comment in this discussion.
    Sadly, it seems they have decided to not respond.
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett A response from you in this discussion will mean a great deal for many.
    There are so many issues and the community is left in the dark while you are not responding.
    It will be great to know if you plan to remedy some of the issues in the near future.
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • gabriebe
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    just thought id necro my own thread...

    what in the hell is ZOS techniocal team doing? and how is this acceptable performance in any gaming company?
    Former Empresses: Saliva Bortschion (MagBlade), Janet From Finance (PvP MagSorc), Carla Swagan (Tank DK), Estelle Born (StamBlade), Enya Arsenal (MagPlar), Anita Nurse (Magplar Healer), Bearback Brigitte (Magden), Rachel Justice (MagDK), Nicole From Payroll (Stamden), Bailiff Belinda (PvE MagSorc), Féline Dion (StamDK), Septic Tank Tina (Necro Tank)

    The runts: The Trolly Spirit (Tank Sorc), Floods-Your-Basement (Warden Healer) Dinah Asthma (Magcro), Total Top Tony (Stamcro)

    The traitor
    s: Janis Javelin (Stamplar, EP), Barbecue Becky (Magblade Healer, AD)

    PvE: Gryphon Heart, Immortal Redeemer, Flawless Conqueror


    GM: Animal Control



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    gabriebe wrote: »
    just thought id necro my own thread...

    what in the hell is ZOS techniocal team doing?

    Apparently there's a white horse in next months crown crates. A WHITE HORSE!

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    Game is very bad

    Never had a game with such bad performance
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