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THE SERVER PERFORMANCE OF THIS GAME IS UNACCEPTABLE

  • Juju_beans
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    I must be lucky and have a good connection.
    I do experience lag spikes every now and then but nothing to make the game unplayable for me.
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  • Troneon
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    Edited by Troneon on September 29, 2018 4:35PM
    PC EU AD
    Master Crafter - Anything you need!!
    High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/Tank
    Trials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything
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  • Raammzzaa
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    gabriebe wrote: »
    FFS, is it so damn hard to ask for a game that runs? I understand that Vivec is a laggy mess, but man every time my group tries to go in there there is almost never a moment where the full team is online and isn't trying to log back, or in the process of disconnecting. Even PvE, it's pretty common for people to crash when the trial start, midway through a boss, on trash mobs, etc.

    ZOS has said in the past they have one, one whole, one entire engineer looking at these issues. IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL RESSOURCES ABOUT THIS?

    You must be new here. Welcome to ESO! :D

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  • pdblake
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    It's not just pvp either. This last week pve has been unplayable at times. Ive just logged off now and given up.

    Its really annnoying. And that means the game is no fun. I bought a 6 month dub a couple of month ago and am seriously considering asking for a refund its got that bad.

    This is on pc Eu
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  • ResTandRespeC
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    Its truely the one thing that is pushing me away from the game. I love playing when its smooth but everytime i have to restart my vma score runs 3/4th of the way through because skills stop firing or animations stop lining up I die a little bit on the inside.
    Edited by ResTandRespeC on September 29, 2018 5:38PM
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  • Universe
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    Edited by Universe on September 30, 2018 4:00PM
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
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  • Jaraal
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    KoultouraS wrote: »
    You all know it won't be fixed. Accept it or move on already.

    You can't be like ''Fix server performance'' while also throwing your wallets at virtual ponies and 100 buck digital caves.


    Its not gonna be fixed, not because its technically impossible(there is no impossible, only low budget), but because there is no reason for them to do so.

    So true mate, so true. If you guys wish the game to improve then show it with your EsoPlus sub or crown store purchases.
    There is no other way to convince them to fix vital aspects of the game.
    Money is the only costumer feedback these guys understand.

    Unfortunately, I don't believe this to be the case. There is no "carrot and stick" approach to getting game companies to invest in infrastructure upgrades. The reality is, the more people that unsub and stop buying crown stuff, the less important the game looks in the eyes of the investment board. "We had a 10% drop in ESO cash flow last month? Ok, it's losing interest, let's move more personnel and resources to our Fallout MMORPG project, or ESO2."

    Game companies go where the money is at. You can expect ESO to be less and less supported as time goes by. I saw the same thing happen with Everquest. They now have a skeleton crew monitoring that game for the few thousand remaining players. Games get old, players and companies move on. Graphics and hardware outgrow games' original architecture. People who were on top level systems when the game launched are now forced to choose to upgrade on their end as the system requirements increase with each new chapter. And a few years from now people with the new systems will find this game's graphics old and dated, and be playing the latest and greatest titles.

    RIP Bosmer Nation. 4/4/14 - 2/25/19.
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  • Yubarius
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    itzTJ wrote: »
    gabriebe wrote: »
    FFS, is it so damn hard to ask for a game that runs? I understand that Vivec is a laggy mess, but man every time my group tries to go in there there is almost never a moment where the full team is online and isn't trying to log back, or in the process of disconnecting. Even PvE, it's pretty common for people to crash when the trial start, midway through a boss, on trash mobs, etc.

    ZOS has said in the past they have one, one whole, one entire engineer looking at these issues. IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL RESSOURCES ABOUT THIS?

    As i always say keep the threads coming. Maybe one day when the forums is all performance threads they will finally fix it. But i think that all of us who give a *** will quit by then. Between lag and massive zergs, cyrodil is just not fun to me anymore. I dont even play.. It really sucks..

    But when i did pvp i didnt go into viv on the weekends. On the weekends, after primetime and until like midnight, its beyond unplayable. Its just rage inducing.

    I did actually go in tonight to grab a set to test from bruma.. Laggy as usual. Got trampled 3 times by at least 24+ groups, while alone, and left. Nothing new.

    I know it isnt everyone's cup of tea and I can understand, but ever since BG's came out that is the only pvp I have been doing and it's a lot of fun. No laggy zerg bs yiu get on the daily in cyro. Plus you get constant action, whereas sometimes in cyro it can take an hour to find a fight where you dont just lose by getting roflstomped by the 100 man zergs in primetime
    Edited by Yubarius on September 29, 2018 6:39PM
    • Yubarius - Magicka NB - Flawless Conqueror
    • YubariusX - Magicka Warden - Flawless Conqueror
    • Lord Yubarius - Stamina Sorc - Stormproof - Centurion
    • 'Rubick the Grand Magus - Magicka Sorc
    • Fair Child Tank - Stamina DK
    • Jaruko - Magicka Templar
    • Selthyn Bavailo - Mag DK
    • Bandit-The-Great - Stam Temp





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  • JackDaniell
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    PvP doesnt make ZOS money like the crown store does so thier is very little incentive for them to improve cyrodiil performance.

    At the end of the day the money makes the call, not what the game necicarily needs.
    Ebonheart Templar

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  • Tandor
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    rumple9 wrote: »
    If everyone cancels their sub for a month they will fix it pretty darn quick

    Money talks. Vote with your wallets

    All it would arguably need is for those who have these problems to cancel their sub, there's absolutely no reason for everyone to cancel because not everyone has these problems. If, however, the problems are as widespread as some would claim then if all those affected canceled then that should do the trick.
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  • LegacyDM
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Maybe everyone should stop trying to pile into Vivec all the time, the other Campaigns are dead because of that, and let me tell you, Shor is nowhere near as bad as Vivec when it comes to instability.

    Not the players fault. The Devs just don't care enough to put in incentives to drive people into the other campaigns. Why would anyone want to play on a dead campaign? The devs really need to split up the population. Maybe make shore a 30 day campaign? How about that for a start.
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  • Kikazaru
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    soooo many players disconnecting during laggy keep/outpost fights.... sooooo much free ap until I too, became the free ap.
    Mizaru


    “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
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  • Glass
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    CAPS don't make it more important, pls don't yell at me D:
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  • Universe
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    PvP doesnt make ZOS money like the crown store does so thier is very little incentive for them to improve cyrodiil performance.

    At the end of the day the money makes the call, not what the game necicarily needs.

    This is not true.
    ESO was advertised as alliance vs alliance warfare and one of it's key features is Cyrodiil PVP.
    If Cyrodiil's server performance was fine and the combat balance was in a better shape, the PVP community in ESO was able to thrive to such heights that maybe only a few other MMOs could rival.
    The success of PVP in ESO can attract PVP players to buy ESO and perhaps later purchase numerous crown store items and/or be subscribed to ESO plus.
    Sadly, ZOS doesn't allocate enough resources to fix the server performance in Cyrodiil and to better balance the combat.
    Edited by Universe on September 29, 2018 8:13PM
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
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  • Kel
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    method__01 wrote: »
    loading screens during fights......you die......try respawn at camp....loading screens......you respawn dead,camp is burned,no1 there to revive......loading screens.......... and then YOU GET A RESPAWN COOLDOWN for the next camp


    if you can play like this without poping Xanax, i'll give you a medal

    https://youtu.be/jkwSy-vDAwI
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  • Universe
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    @ZOS_RobGarrett @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Please improve server performance.
    This is not appropriate that Cyrodiil PVP and even some PVE content are unplayable due to server performance.
    Edited by Universe on September 29, 2018 8:37PM
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
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  • mwo1480
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    u sure u have drivers uptodate? outdated drivers cause heavy lagg
    eu/pc
    every char has a story

    anne-susan ...breton sorch DC
    seline kay .... bosmer dk AD
    julia-noor ...bosmer temp DC
    elle wolf .... breton temp AD
    Mari-Lynn.... woodelf nb AD former empress
    Mari-chan... woodelf warden AD
    (and more chars)
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  • AlexanderDeLarge
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    mwo1480 wrote: »
    u sure u have drivers uptodate? outdated drivers cause heavy lagg

    Posts like these excuse poor performance. I've ran the game across Windows 7, Windows 8.1, Windows 10, AMD CPUs, Intel CPUs, Nvidia GPUs, AMD GPUs. 8/16/32GB of memory. The game has unnecessarily high system requirements, poor image quality and nothing our ends can fix it.
    Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 10 years. 7 paid expansions. 22 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the vast majority of this game.

    "ESO doesn't need a harder overland" on YouTube for a video of a naked level 3 character AFKing in front of a bear for a minute and a half before dying
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  • Sweetare
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    Already posted this somewhere else, still think it fits properly here:

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    PS: Cyro servers suck and Vivec cant handle the amount of players and combat going on, but hey.. at least I can enjoy not firing skills and not being able to bar swap correctly at high FPS :D
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  • Dymence
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    Unacceptable? You jest. 10 000 000 other players accept it.

    Maybe you aren't playing the fun parts of the game.
    Have you tried jewellery crafting?
    Have you tried home decorating?
    Have you tried collecting Purple recipes?
    Have you tried getting 100 Million in gold?
    Have you tried making your guild master rich?

    Many, many players are doing this and apparently enjoying it.

    10 mil players lmao

    I'd honestly be surprised if this game has anywhere close to 1 mil players
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  • Neoauspex
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    Damage shields are the root cause of all lag, but as soon as any attempt is made to lessen their impact on the servers the community gets all outraged.
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  • Hoolielulu
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    I dunno, I like coming back from a load screen to find myself alone, dead at the bottom of a hill between some rocks.
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  • Lysette
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    When I was on PC EU, ZOS claimed that those disconnects were based on local problems with the ISP provider. But now where I am on PC NA it is not any better at all - the same instability. Due to the message I get after being disconnected when I try to immediately log back in (cannot connect to game server) my suspicion is, that these disconnects are intentional - they just disconnect the next best if the server experiences overload and starts kicking players to get rid of the load, whilst not accepting new logins - this is my guess.

    And if that is correct, it will never be fixed, because there is nothing to fix, it is intentional.
    Edited by Lysette on September 29, 2018 11:24PM
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  • JinMori
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    Not only that, but there are also emerging bugs every single *** day, 1 quest has a problem this day, then another, and it's becoming a real damn mess, there isn;t a day that goes 100 % smoothly, it's insane, you seem to have the money to give away free things zos, but you don;t have the money to fix your own damn servers? The one most important thing? server stability and performance in general, this just shows a lack of care.

    You should be ashamed zos.

    Infinite loading screens, lag, stutters, bad fps, it's a mess.
    Edited by JinMori on September 30, 2018 12:17AM
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  • JinMori
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    Your complaints have been heard and discarded....

    It's not like we are paying you...

    It's not like that we are the ones that are allowing you to profit from this game...

    It's always about giving the bare minimum amount of effort, and sometimes not even that, while at the same time trying to squeeze out every single dollar from players ain't that right?

    It's always about that, sometimes even screwing over your players, and source of income, just to get that extra dollar, well, ea is finally facing some serious repercussions for that, are you gonna be the next zos? Because people will get tired at some point, of this bs.
    Edited by JinMori on September 30, 2018 12:48AM
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  • Kalante
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    yawn... server performance will never be fixed. To actually fix it they would have to re haul the entire game.
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  • Vapirko
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    aaylas wrote: »
    I can't figure out what the issue is. If I play Overwatch or LOL, I have 30ms ping and butter gameplay.

    In ESO, I'm lucky if I can light attack weave. But I'm not sure what's wrong. I watched LZH perform in a trial and he doesn't have any of my issues. I wonder if there is bad routing in my area.

    But even if you do have bad routing, why does it only affect ESO? Yes for some poorly routing may be the issue, but tbh if you live in the US and aren’t in the backwoods somewhere then routing should be fine, and even the best streamers who have likely done all they can to optimize their connection and we can see playing with 90 latency in game, even they have regular lag issues. So I really doubt it’s a routing issue.
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  • adeptusminor
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    Sweetare wrote: »
    Already posted this somewhere else, still think it fits properly here:

    2hzdko.jpg

    PS: Cyro servers suck and Vivec cant handle the amount of players and combat going on, but hey.. at least I can enjoy not firing skills and not being able to bar swap correctly at high FPS :D

    A lot of people are using their motherboards built in NIC card, which while generally not awful, will have an effect on the CPU if there is a lot of network activity happening, particularly on older CPU's.

    edit: Doesn't help that when a lot is happening on screen a majority of the calculations are being processed server side, which obviously is putting more stress on ZOS's servers. Most people notice that when their framerate drops, their latency increases, and assume it's caused by the same thing.
    Edited by adeptusminor on September 30, 2018 1:05AM
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  • Lysette
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    It is not a connection issue - I am playing from australia and I played before from south africa - around the globe basically - but ESO is the only MMO, which I am playing, which has these connection issues - the fault is clearly on ZOS's side.
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  • Numerikuu
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    I had to alt+f4 several times today in Rawl due to infinite loading screens... Was starting to think the main quest there was broken.
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