RIP my beloved Sorc

Feanor

Overload 3rd bar gone but no real ultimate rework instead (oh we can weave OL attacks now, wohoo, looking forward to how clunky that will be), shields have 1 sec cast time now, and can be crit (oh, my light Armour resistances count too now, great! Gonna need Fortifying Brass and 7 impen now) and Conversion is a trash siphoning strikes now.

GG. Well done ZOS.

grannas211

Hutch679

I'm stoked. Awesome changes! No sarcasm. For real, bravo!

Apache_Kid

Casting shields is going to be so clunky. I can already tell i will not be loving this mechanic. Was really enjoying my sorc in pvp this patch as well. What a shame.

gepe87

Now magsorcs will go out of pvp. Good luck NB and DK with hide and seek games.

Feanor

Hutch679 wrote: »

I'm stoked. Awesome changes! No sarcasm. For real, bravo!

Who would have guessed the Nightblades gonna party tonight? It was so surprising they totally trashed another class.

Feanor

Meanwhile:

Grim Focus:
Fully-Charged Heavy Attacks now grant 2 stacks towards the spectral bow proc for this ability and its morphs.

Oh yeah. 5 light attacks was too restricting.

luen79rwb17_ESO

Terrible. I can live with everything but the cast time. What an awful "fix".

Bergzorn

A cast time on shields. They dropped the ball so hard, it's now a disc.

I mean, seriously, I expected something bad to happen. But a cast time on wards, ...

I might be done.

SergeantPink

I think the changes are great. Finally sorcs have to worry about face tanking tons of damage. Yeah, all the sorc players will have to adjust their play style, but at least it won’t be blatantly over preforming now.

Feanor

SergeantPink wrote: »

I think the changes are great. Finally sorcs have to worry about face tanking tons of damage. Yeah, all the sorc players will have to adjust their play style, but at least it won’t be blatantly over preforming now.

All the Sorc players will just finally switch to NB.

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jeskah

Hm, dark exchange will be instant now? If yes, it will be a good change imho. Otherwise its a pvp nerf.
Overload... Could be frekking powerful, if working properly.
Shields in general are dead imho. This game punishes cast time skills.

OtarTheMad

Shields weren't the problem. I mean they have 3 sets (Sloads, Knight Slayer and Shield Breaker) and a CP to put points into to help if you are having issues with them. I just don't know how I feel about this change. It seems Sorcs were already falling down the list of classes and took a big hit.


I will have to test this to see what it impacts play.

WuffyCerulei

Allowing shields to be critted was enough of a change for shield users to not be so strong. Adding a 1 second cast time is ridiculous. How to screw over pvers in 1 step.

keevil111

Sorcs are easy to kill anyways.

Now when I see one I'll just target someone else. LOL

Let the lowbies make sorc chops out of them!

gepe87

I would be ok with non crit and a cast, or maybe with a streak buff. I can imagine Crit builds breaking shields so quickly without any escape tool.

CrazYDunm3r

They don't deserve an explanation why the patch notes suck anymore, at this points they should actually read their feedback from months. This PTS is *** and most feedback will probably be ignored again.

Lylith

if it was intended to gut a class, well done.

for the first time, after all these years and many many dollars, i'm seriously considering dropping this game for good.

not that the company cares, ofc; they've got my money.

karekiz

Cast times suck in PvE. Always have, I kinda thought they would put a DR or a short lockout on spamming shields over and over. Would have prefered that imo. No more block casting shield spam I guess?

The change to dark exchange is really great though. I might deslot my...Sorc shield....and use that instead.

Maybe decrease the stam cost? <Mag user>

Neloth

Cast time on shield? No change to frag CC, no instant crystal blast? Dark deal nerf? Rune cage even more telegraphed?

Can I have class change token, ZoS? I’m done with it. Just take my money so I can play something viable on my main.

Feanor

I really love how they add a bit of salt to the fresh wound:

It now reduces the effectiveness of snares applied to you by 1/2/4% per piece of Light Armor worn, and reduces the cost of Sprint by 1/2/3% per piece of Light Armor worn.
Developer Comment:
Spoiler
All these changes are aimed at making Light Armor more attractive to Magicka users in both PvE and PvP scenarios.

Quite attractive. Oh yeah.

Biro123

omg..

Massive changes.. Huge.. All PVP sorcs are gonna have to be completely rebuilt..

So much change I honestly don't know if its a buff or a nerf... 1 second cast time for shields? idk, they were never truly instant anyway.. plenty of times where a dodge was needed cos you knew you wouldn't shield quick enough.
But resists counting on shields.. That's potentially a huge buff - just a shame it didn't come with the sustain to use heavy-armour.. All the sustain buffs being for pve (pets) :-(
Sounds like more impen needed now, which could mean dropping well-fitted = more sustain pain for stam too.

Weaveable overload? but a 50% dmg drop.. I honestly don't know how this will compare with current light-attack damage.. Oo! can I play DW again?

Need to have a good think about what kind of builds I could run now before I can figure out how it will play out..

Not really a fan of the cage change.. the problem with sorc burst = vs a decent player = telegraphed so too avoidable - cage changes nothing as its now telegraphed - so not worth slotting on my (more limited) bar. Vs the kind of players that cage will hit? Well, the burst will hit them anyway, so cage not needed.

CrazYDunm3r

I don't even play sorc and find this utterly ridiculous.

BaylorCorvette

What's the point of removing the third bar from Overload? That was one of the few remaining features a StamSorc had.

ZonasArch

I wonder if anyone ever actually left the game because of these changes. All I see is a bunch of whining with very little arguments.

Meta changes, builds changes, balance changes. Get. Over. It.

Adapt and survive.

Mintaka5

And they said that no cool-downs on skills were the best part of this game. So much for that community BS. RIP sorc!

SergeantPink

BaylorCorvette wrote: »

What's the point of removing the third bar from Overload? That was one of the few remaining features a StamSorc had.

I don’t like this change either. That extra bar was a cool unique and strategic gameplay option for sorcs. I don’t think it was over preforming at all. I do like that weapon abilities can be used now.

Biro123

SergeantPink wrote: »

BaylorCorvette wrote: »

What's the point of removing the third bar from Overload? That was one of the few remaining features a StamSorc had.

I don’t like this change either. That extra bar was a cool unique and strategic gameplay option for sorcs. I don’t think it was over preforming at all. I do like that weapon abilities can be used now.

Yeah, I'd have preferred it to be a morph choice.

Biro123

Question..

I can't remember, but have a feeling that ele weapon doesn't work with overload... If so, wouldn't it make ele weapon completely useless with the new overload?

SirAndy

Feanor wrote: »

RIP my beloved Sorc

Hyperbole much?

Some of us have already adapted ...


PS: I have lost count of how many times a class has been declared dead. And yet here we are, 5 years later, still playing.