So...if the Altmer are an ancient culture who strive for perfection...

psychotrip

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Maybe these were sewn by the children that are kept hidden from the vestiges?

Or they don't look like second hand pirates' gear, they ARR second hand pirates' gear with a new helmet.

Except even before they got an official Motif the Maormer were still better dressed in Ancient Elf.

Haven't you caught on to the rules by now? Everyone has to be cooler than the Altmer. Everyone has to seem more competent, creative, and culturally advanced. It's the law.

Aliyavana

honestly I like the environment zos made for summerset and hopes Bethesda uses it as a template for if they ever release a single player summerset game. Tho the architecture I hope they go another route

psychotrip

Aliyavana wrote: »

honestly I like the environment zos made for summerset and hopes Bethesda uses it as a template for if they ever release a single player summerset game. Tho the architecture I hope they go another route

Too late for that. Unless they decide that all of Summerset's cities got destroyed without a trace, their generic greek ruins magically transformed into something more creative, and suddenly all the things Zenimax said were too unrealistic suddenly becomes acceptable, then we're stuck with this forever.

Summerset is just another medieval european forest, and the altmer are just pointy eared humans with an unjustified arrogance. This is canon.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

psychotrip wrote: »

Too late for that. Unless they decide that all of Summerset's cities got destroyed without a trace

We DO have the Oblivion Crisis in about 800 years... *shifty eyes*

DanteYoda

Aliyavana wrote: »

I really think that the old armors need a remodel. You place old armor against new models and it looks like they are from different games.

Totally agree those armors are 4 years old.. Really the next chapter after Murkmire should Tamriel overhaul... I'd pay.

psychotrip

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

psychotrip wrote: »

Too late for that. Unless they decide that all of Summerset's cities got destroyed without a trace

We DO have the Oblivion Crisis in about 800 years... *shifty eyes*

Hold on to that hope, dude. I lost all my hope and respect for the Altmer when I found out everything I liked about them was a transcription error.

VaranisArano

psychotrip wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Maybe these were sewn by the children that are kept hidden from the vestiges?

Or they don't look like second hand pirates' gear, they ARR second hand pirates' gear with a new helmet.

Except even before they got an official Motif the Maormer were still better dressed in Ancient Elf.

Haven't you caught on to the rules by now? Everyone has to be cooler than the Altmer. Everyone has to seem more competent, creative, and culturally advanced. It's the law.

No wonder the 4th Era Thalmor have such a chip on their shoulder...

MLGProPlayer

All base game armour styles looked like potato sacks. The DLC stuff is much better for every race.

Jhalin

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

All base game armour styles looked like potato sacks. The DLC stuff is much better for every race.

Redguard and Orc come to mind as very elegant racial styles.

Meanwhile a small child’s attempt at clothier work makes up most of the Altmer’s light and medium armor

Korah_Eaglecry

TheUndeadAmulet wrote: »

It makes sense because, you know, they are in a war rn. I don't think perfect tailoring is on their priority list, more actually being able to equip every soldier properly.

Theres a difference between going with quantity over quality versus this. This was a really weird aesthetic choice for a culture that even if they were doing their crappiest work would have still looked miles above this level of stitching and craftmanship. These are people that spend decades if not a few hundred years perfecting their craft before even reaching a point where their peers and their society consider them experts or masters of their craft. This armor choice makes no sense for the culture that its supposed to represent.

This looks like the work of someone that literally just started crafting as a clothier yesterday. Not a Altmer that has a reputation to maintain would allow themselves to craft that.

MLGProPlayer

Jhalin wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

All base game armour styles looked like potato sacks. The DLC stuff is much better for every race.

Redguard and Orc come to mind as very elegant racial styles.

Meanwhile a small child’s attempt at clothier work makes up most of the Altmer’s light and medium armor

There is less visible stitching, but they still look like potato sacks.

Linaleah

Altmer have grown complacent. they are so secure in thinking they are superior and perfect, they cannot be bother to actualy maintain that. ancient elf is technicaly ancient altmer, no?

Sheezabeast

I imagine the big stitching is to accommodate their hulking towering height lol. Clothes that grow with you.

psychotrip

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

TheUndeadAmulet wrote: »

It makes sense because, you know, they are in a war rn. I don't think perfect tailoring is on their priority list, more actually being able to equip every soldier properly.

Theres a difference between going with quantity over quality versus this. This was a really weird aesthetic choice for a culture that even if they were doing their crappiest work would have still looked miles above this level of stitching and craftmanship. These are people that spend decades if not a few hundred years perfecting their craft before even reaching a point where their peers and their society consider them experts or masters of their craft. This armor choice makes no sense for the culture that its supposed to represent.

This looks like the work of someone that literally just started crafting as a clothier yesterday. Not a Altmer that has a reputation to maintain would allow themselves to craft that.

Exactly. There's no excuse for it. Even compared to the other launch motifs, it's just bizarre. Why, of all the races, did they decide to make the Altmer such slap shot artists?

A part of me honestly wonders if they just hate the "old" altmer lore, and want to do everything they can to make them seem as mundane and boring as possible.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

All base game armour styles looked like potato sacks. The DLC stuff is much better for every race.

Redguard and Orc come to mind as very elegant racial styles.

Meanwhile a small child’s attempt at clothier work makes up most of the Altmer’s light and medium armor

There is less visible stitching, but they still look like potato sacks.

Yeah. The point is the stitching though. A lot of the launch gear had problems, but why is the Altmer clothing THIS bad? It's just a symptom of an ongoing problem for me.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

All base game armour styles looked like potato sacks. The DLC stuff is much better for every race.

Redguard and Orc come to mind as very elegant racial styles.

Meanwhile a small child’s attempt at clothier work makes up most of the Altmer’s light and medium armor

There is less visible stitching, but they still look like potato sacks.

Yeah. The point is the stitching though. A lot of the launch gear had problems, but why is the Altmer clothing THIS bad?

Sheezabeast wrote: »

I imagine the big stitching is to accommodate their hulking towering height lol. Clothes that grow with you.

Why not just make a minor enchantment that allows the clothing to grow? Or use an elastic material? Oh right...Altmer aren't advanced enough to make anything like that.

psychotrip

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Let's not forget that Auridon has what is basically a magical Aldmeri cannon. No explanation for why they don't have more of these near, say, Sunhold...

Have you forgotten the law? Everything interesting about the Altmer has to come from the Aldmer, and the Altmer must be incapable of using it to its full potential. Otherwise things get too unrealistic! Now, help me kill this clockwork magitech robot.

MornaBaine

psychotrip wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

psychotrip wrote: »

...Why do their clothes have giant, ugly stitches patched onto them?



Checkmate, Elves. Get some damn tailors.

It's because it's the best zos' coders could come up with.

It just wracks my brain. Why do they have so much trouble with the Altmer? They've created such incredible designs for the other races, even when the game first launched. I just don't understand why they either cannot or will not allow the Altmer to be creative in any conceivable way. We had an entire expansion about them and the best they could come up with is medieval europe...again.

So much all of this! I literally finally broke down and bought the Daggerfall Overlook player house because Alinor furniture is literally High Middle Ages furniture and BELONGS in a European castle! It looks GREAT in there. LOL

But yeah the Altmer are just disappointing in a lot of ways. Like I can't even think of one in ESO that is a genuine exemplar of all those perfectionistic views rather than just a foppish pratt with a huge and misplaced ego. And then there's the clothes. Dear lord. Hideous. The new costumes are nice but that makes the look of the old stuff EVEN MORE jarring!

psychotrip

MornaBaine wrote: »

psychotrip wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

psychotrip wrote: »

...Why do their clothes have giant, ugly stitches patched onto them?



Checkmate, Elves. Get some damn tailors.

It's because it's the best zos' coders could come up with.

It just wracks my brain. Why do they have so much trouble with the Altmer? They've created such incredible designs for the other races, even when the game first launched. I just don't understand why they either cannot or will not allow the Altmer to be creative in any conceivable way. We had an entire expansion about them and the best they could come up with is medieval europe...again.

So much all of this! I literally finally broke down and bought the Daggerfall Overlook player house because Alinor furniture is literally High Middle Ages furniture and BELONGS in a European castle! It looks GREAT in there. LOL

But yeah the Altmer are just disappointing in a lot of ways. Like I can't even think of one in ESO that is a genuine exemplar of all those perfectionistic views rather than just a foppish pratt with a huge and misplaced ego. And then there's the clothes. Dear lord. Hideous. The new costumes are nice but that makes the look of the old stuff EVEN MORE jarring!

It's like ESO saw the Thalmor from Skyrim and decided that must be a bunch of arrogant jerks with nothing to back it up. So every chance they get to knock them down a peg they take it, while the other races get to overtake them in every way.

It's honestly pretty silly. Even the ancient nords seem more advanced than the modern Altmer. They don't have giant stitches on their clothes either.

kathandira

psychotrip wrote: »

...Why do their clothes have giant, ugly stitches patched onto them?



Checkmate, Elves. Get some damn tailors.

Perhaps that is the style they like? Perhaps to them, it is fashionable to have large stitches shown?

Remember, in the real world, people buy pre-ripped jeans, and that is fashionable.

psychotrip

kathandira wrote: »

psychotrip wrote: »

...Why do their clothes have giant, ugly stitches patched onto them?



Checkmate, Elves. Get some damn tailors.

Perhaps that is the style they like? Perhaps to them, it is fashionable to have large stitches shown?

Remember, in the real world, people buy pre-ripped jeans, and that is fashionable.

I feel like we as a community will try to retroactively explain anything the developers do. By this logic, the new clothes that we have to pay for are extremely unfashionable.

The Altmer are primitive hacks and frauds. Frauds I tell you!

StormChaser3000

psychotrip wrote: »

I feel like we as a community will try to retroactively explain anything the developers do. By this logic, the new clothes that we have to pay for are extremely unfashionable.

The Altmer are primitive hacks and frauds. Frauds I tell you!

Altmers would reply...
XD

On a serious note I do agree that high elf styles look outdated in ESO. It would be great if devs at least brought in thalmor outfit from Skyrim (for example, just like the one on the picture above).

AhPook_Is_Here

It's because they rely on their slave races for menial work. It can't be helped, nobody wants to do that kind of thing in a superior society like the Altmer. If you need a real-life comparison just look at the prison industrial complex and see what they have done to chicken nuggets in the primary school lunch program. If you think that stitching is bad, just try one of our chicken nuggets! A great country must rely on a free labor force but it comes at a cost sometimes.

MLGProPlayer

StormChaser3000 wrote: »

psychotrip wrote: »

I feel like we as a community will try to retroactively explain anything the developers do. By this logic, the new clothes that we have to pay for are extremely unfashionable.

The Altmer are primitive hacks and frauds. Frauds I tell you!

Altmers would reply...
XD

On a serious note I do agree that high elf styles look outdated in ESO. It would be great if devs at least brought in thalmor outfit from Skyrim (for example, just like the one on the picture above).

The styles they introduced with Summerset all look great. Hopefully every race gets DLC styles. So far, Altmer, Dunmer, Redguard, Imperial, Orc, and Khajiit have all recieved at least one DLC style.

Unfortinatrly, Breton won't be getting any DLC since we already received all of their zones in the base game.

New Altmer styles (Sapiarch, Divine Prosecution, Welkynar):

CyberSkooma

ZOS has absolutely butchered everything that the Altmer were, pre-eso.

Minyassa

psychotrip wrote: »

...Why do their clothes have giant, ugly stitches patched onto them?



Checkmate, Elves. Get some damn tailors.

There's only one possible answer...it's on purpose. Who can truly explain the whims of style from one culture to another? Right now the modern American tailoring industry is capable of meticulously fitted waists and hips AND stretch-free elastic, and yet many of our wealthier citizens choose to wear pants hanging half off their asses with the crotch hovering somewhere around their knees. It's not because they can't get pants that fit, this is on purpose. So I am left with the assumption that the Altmer's giant ugly stitches are the equivalent of sagging.

OrdoHermetica

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

All base game armour styles looked like potato sacks. The DLC stuff is much better for every race.

Redguard and Orc come to mind as very elegant racial styles.

Meanwhile a small child’s attempt at clothier work makes up most of the Altmer’s light and medium armor

<snip>

There is less visible stitching, but they still look like potato sacks.

As an aside, you know who had the absolute best-looking starter gear? Bretons. Seriously - look at this outfit I threw together in a couple minutes using only starter Breton gear. Does this not look like a proper battle mage to you? Bretons really got lucky with their armor design, gotta say...

crjs1

I really do wish they would just ditch the base clothes and roll out the great Summerset ones to Altmer NPCs across base zones.

One thing though, I do think Summerset looks great and does not look like Breton architecture at all. I was spending time in Alinor today and all the organic and vine motifs on the walls and windows and doors really are great. It’s the level of detail that is really impressive - it’s a lot more ‘elven’ than first impressions give.

While it not as magical as I wanted (e.g glass and insect wings as stated in previous lore) I do think it is not remotely as bad as some have made out. It’s actually pretty stunning and really doesn’t look Breton at all.

Jeremy

I think this game does a good job of giving each race their own individual style. Altmers are no exception to that.

I do agree that armor in your OP leaves a lot to be desired. But I'm sure you could find examples of crappy looking armor on NPCs from all races and factions. So this thread is just racial propaganda aimed at the Altmer. ^^

WhiteCoatSyndrome

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Unfortinatrly, Breton won't be getting any DLC since we already received all of their zones in the base game.

Adamantine Tower is still a possibility. Or maybe some Breton-themed dungeons will be added at some point.

VaranisArano

Its all the fault of Queen Ayrenn.

Ideally, Altmer armor would be made by dedicated craftmer seeking their path to Alaxon through the perfection of their garments.

Thanks to the Unforeseen Queen's War, everything has gone to pot. Craftsmer told to mass produce shoddy armor for our soldiers! Why, it must be killing their artistic souls to create such rubbish that bears only the smallest insignia of our proud heritage...and just imagine what its doing to the morale of our soldiers forced to wear those mangy suits.

Fortunately, we here on Summerset maintain the purity of our purpose. Our armor is lovingly maintained and handcrafted to the highest of standards. Let Alinor remember the glories of Altmer crafts which Auridon and Ayrenn have forgotten!

(The Stonemasons of Summerset were already drafted en masse into the Dominion army and forced to slave in the mines of Cyrodiil, building and rebuilding the castle walls. If you wonder why our fair cities suffer with timeworn and ruined stonework, place the blame on non other than the Pact and the Daggers, and Queen Ayrenn who sent our people into harm's way.)

CatchMeTrolling

This is why peasants couldn’t get into Summerset isle