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ZOS Please remove taunt from ice staff heavy attack
Mephisto939
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Or at least make the taunt a morph of one of the destro skills no one uses like force shock or destructive touch.
Why did the Dunmer cross the road?
Apparently to get stuck in an eternal load screen!
Apparently to get stuck in an eternal load screen!
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Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭. . . No one uses force shock or destructive touch? Are we playing the same game?48 -
Kartalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Remove skill points from Tri-Focus passive, slot Inner Rage from Undaunted skill line (ranged magicka taunt), wipe hands on pants.- PC/NA
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭When you respec next time, just don't take tri-focus and good.
This. Mostly because Zos chose to retrofit the ice staff for magicka tanking.
It’s no longer a dps weapon but a poor tanking weapon. Yes I have staves for my tank. Only to back bar for a ranged interupt and no points into the passives.1 -
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✭Someone got a frost staff on VMA eheh
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No offense to the good sense of our OP here but this isn’t changing anytime soon so I’d avoid HAs with ice staves unless you want to tank the boss.0 -
Mephisto939✭✭✭✭Someone got a frost staff on VMA eheh
Nah, I am running an Ice Warden with Ysgramor and Winterborn. Frost damage procs Winterborn, but it drives tanks crazy when I accidentally heavy attack the boss.Why did the Dunmer cross the road?
Apparently to get stuck in an eternal load screen!5 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Mephisto939 wrote: »
So much wrong with this, tbqhValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake5 -
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✭I would rather get faster ice staff heavy attacks. Nothing too crazy, but noticeable enough to make it more fun to taunt with it.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Mephisto939✭✭✭✭Why did the Dunmer cross the road?
Apparently to get stuck in an eternal load screen!3 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mephisto939 wrote: »
Ice staff tanking isn't perfect, and this might be a solution to it.
Personally, I'd like to see an entirely new staff line. We could potentially have, for example, alteration staves, illusion staves, mysticism staves, etc. A new staff line would open up the opportunity to return ice staves to being a damage-dealing tool and instead put magicka tanking in one of the new skill lines.3 -
Kiyakotari✭✭✭✭✭As someone who mains a tank...please yes this. It drives me crazy when someone (generally DPS) is using an ice staff and I keep having to fight them for aggro. Really? It's just dumb.2 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mephisto939 wrote: »
My magwarden is set up the exact same way (no frost staff though).Mephisto939 wrote: »
Probably gonna say "not BIS", "Why play Warden? Lol", or something to that effect .
Edit: Now granted, I only decided to level a Wardy during the last 2xEXP event. Plus, I needed an excuse to level a new character for the leveling rewards.Edited by Cadbury on August 24, 2018 7:09PM"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."4 -
Mephisto939✭✭✭✭Mephisto939 wrote: »
My magwarden is set up the exact same way (no frost staff though).Mephisto939 wrote: »
Probably gonna say "not BIS", "Why play Warden? Lol", or something to that effect .
Edit: Now granted, I only decided to level a Wardy during the last 2xEXP event. Plus, I needed an excuse to level a new character for the leveling rewards.
Someone on the forum posted the build. Maybe it was you. It's the most fun I've had in a while, and Ice shards proc winterborn like crazy.Why did the Dunmer cross the road?
Apparently to get stuck in an eternal load screen!2 -
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✭Personally think it should go cause it creates tanks that only heavy attack and block.2 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mephisto939 wrote: »Mephisto939 wrote: »
My magwarden is set up the exact same way (no frost staff though).Mephisto939 wrote: »
Probably gonna say "not BIS", "Why play Warden? Lol", or something to that effect .
Edit: Now granted, I only decided to level a Wardy during the last 2xEXP event. Plus, I needed an excuse to level a new character for the leveling rewards.
Someone on the forum posted the build. Maybe it was you. It's the most fun I've had in a while, and Ice shards proc winterborn like crazy.
Naw, I don't post any builds. But yeah, Winterborn is so fun to use and procs pretty consistently. Totally worth farming VMA for it imo"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."1 -
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✭Get rid of the refreshing of skill time from elemental susceptiblity put breach/fracture and taunt on boom done
Add a cost though and new animation so healers won't get confusedEdited by Onefrkncrzypope on August 24, 2018 7:45PM-Immortal Redeemer-
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If I edited a post, it was for spelling. It is always because of spelling....2 -
Mephisto939✭✭✭✭When you respec next time, just don't take tri-focus and good.
Thanks, done. I can't believe i didn't notice notice the taunt was tied to this passive. Still kinda sucks to lose a passive that rocks for flame/shock though. Would be nice to see the taunt moved to a skill and a root or just dmg shield placed on the frost passiveWhy did the Dunmer cross the road?
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This so much, make it faster but nerf it a bit. Now you have an taunt tool for multiple enemies, Staff HA is to slow.I would rather get faster ice staff heavy attacks. Nothing too crazy, but noticeable enough to make it more fun to taunt with it.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.5 -
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✭Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »Get rid of the refreshing of skill time from elemental susceptiblity put breach/fracture and taunt on boom done
Add a cost though and new animation so healers won't get confused
The easiest and most obvious solution.0 -
Glurin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Just move the taunt to it's own passive and I'd be happy."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."4 -
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✭itd be nice if it did more damage or something to frosted enemies with ice damage long as you had a ability from destro staff.0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Zos chose to retrofit one aspect of a dps weapon into a tanking weapon. There is not was any reason to think it was an ideal solution but it is the solution we have.
Until and unless Zos does the proper thing and design a new magicka tanking weapon (or eliminate magicka tanking) there is no ideal solution.1 -
RavenRoxie✭✭✭✭Mephisto939 wrote: »Or at least make the taunt a morph of one of the destro skills no one uses like force shock or destructive touch.
This has to be a joke right?...
Like, an early April fools joke perhaps?....
There's no way that you "actually" think that no one uses force shock or destructive touch, right?....
Since, those are the two skills MOST destro staff users use...
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✭I actually like using an ice staff on my back bar. I usually keep Inner Beast on that bar which, along with snb up front, gives me a taunt for just about any occasion.
It works out well for a multipurpose character. I swap the ice staff for fire or lightning, swap Inner Beast for Jesus beam and my monster set for something more offensive and I'm ready to PVP.0
