Step by step guide: how to create a macro using mouse software

noob in denial
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So, since zenimax doesn't officially take a firm position against/for macros which destroy the game's balance for those who encounter macro players (in PVP mostly) nor does it try to change the curent game design which encourages them since the advantage is huge, we can assume they are tolerated and i firmly believe everyone should know about them and have the chance to be playing on equal ground if they find themselves at a disadvantage.

Today while browsing the forum i stumbled across a discussion and a link to a YT video of an OP macro; swap bar>spell>swapbar. All done with one press of a button and extremely fast/efficient. So i decided to see how that works and played a bit with the software and managed to create my own swap bar + hardened ward + harness magicka + swapbar. Sounds cool ? Most gaming peripherals producers have their own software so things might be slightly different, but for logitech:

1. Open logitech software.
2. Select customize buttons tab.
3. Commands, press create new command.
4. Multikey, mouse over the black square.
5. For light attack macro: right click, insert mouse event, left button, click. Right click the second line and click record after here. Then you can record a spell like liquid lightning.
6. For my example same, but now you have to insert delay between actions. So something like this: swapbar/0.15delay + hardened ward/0.5delay + harness magicka/0.6delay+ swapbar.

I didn't try to improve the timings after i managed to make it work. Thing is, being able to press one button and do 4 actions can give a pretty big advantage. If you're cornered 1v5 and you use this macro while blocking, you'll probably live long enough until your team arrives.

P.S : personally i will not use this in neither PVP nor PVE, except for experimenting / testing purposes ( like now ). So if these things become bannable in the future use them at your own risk.
  • code65536
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    LOL!

    You... realize that skills are subject to a 1-second global cooldown, right? It doesn't matter how fast you can press buttons (or simulate the pressing of buttons), the game won't let you cast more than one ability per GCD.
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    Macros can only emulate input, and it doesnt matter how much you spam that skill button, you're not gonna get more than 1 skill per second.
    That yt video is from 2014 lol.
    Find a fresh video of something like this and we will talk.
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  • noob in denial
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    I did say i created my own and i used the delays in the example. Between skills i used 0.5seconds delay and it worked. Use my example and test it yourself.
    Even if the GCD is 1sec and my skill just got queued up, the macro still worked and it's extremely strong considering all you do is press 1 button. With a few macro like these you can entirely get rid of backbar and just use main bar. And as i said, i didn't try to improve the timings, as soon as i made it work i stopped testing.

    Any admin cares to share his/her own opinion about this ? Is it okay/normal ? These people seem to be hellbent on thinking this isn't some sort of massive advantage
    Edited by noob in denial on August 6, 2018 12:49AM
  • Zer0oo
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    Did you know that if you press the elevator key every 0.5 sec it will arrive sooner but there is no official potion on that.

    You can do it very easy on your own:
    1. find a elevator
    2. find something to press
    3. now press it every 0.5 sec till the elevator comes

    You can also change the interval maybe it is even faster if you manage to hammer on this button faster.
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  • zaria
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    I once made an macro of an full templar rotation to find the maximum dps of my parse.
    I then made her an pure healer but that is irrelevant.

    If you go tighter than 0.9 seconds you start dropping casts, 1 second including animation cancel is safe.
    Nice on dummy, not so much in an dungeon and in pvp it would be hopeless as you would be stuck in an 5 second rotation :)
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
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  • noob in denial
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    In PVP it's the biggest advantage obviously. I'm not experienced with other classes, but as a mage you can press one button and cast two shields very efficiently, two weapon swaps included, with no dead times and be back on main bar. Pairing the shields and power surge+boundless storm and you rarely need the backbar anymore.

    Also the macro is a bit slowed down by the fact that it has two spells, but with just one shield and two weapon swaps it's obviously much, much faster. Yes, doable without the macro but in a PVP situation you wouldn't be even 50% as efficient.
    Edited by noob in denial on August 6, 2018 1:03AM
  • Thogard
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    In PVP it's the biggest advantage obviously. I'm not experienced with other classes, but as a mage you can press one button and cast two shields very efficiently, two weapon swaps included, with no dead times and be back on main bar. Pairing the shields and power surge+boundless storm and you rarely need the backbar anymore.

    Also the macro is a bit slowed down by the fact that it has two spells, but with just one shield and two weapon swaps it's obviously much, much faster. Yes, doable without the macro but in a PVP situation you wouldn't be even 50% as efficient.

    You are basically preprogramming a rotation.

    But it’s a disadvantage since you won’t be able to light attack weave since your skills will overwrite the light attacks because your timing is off and your skills will get queued.. and when you have a skill queued you can’t do a light attack.

    And in PvP your timing will ALWAYS be off because of variable lag. So therefore Using macros is the best way to guarantee that you’ll be ineffective as a player. In PvP anyway.

    In PvE sure, why not.
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  • Thogard
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    Here’s my animation cancelling guide where I talk about light attack weaving and block cancelling.

    Your macro will not be competitive in PvP for two reasons:

    1. If you ever queue up a skill early, you can’t light attack weave
    2. If you block cancel a skill while you’re dotted up, it’s expensive... and with a macro you’d either always block cancel or never block cancel.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=mB08rpRaNl0
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  • casparian
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    All you guys taking this seriously haven't looked at OP's username too closely XD
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  • Darkenarlol
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    lol you absolutely CAN do a macro with light attack waving...here is a short guide:

    - grab a good gaming mouse (like razer naga or corsair scimitar fo example)

    - spend %*&load of time in your mouse tuning software

    - at last receive well-recorded macro with manually tuned dealys

    - try it in real ( not dummy parce) situation

    - delete your macro cuz you need to react to stuff happening on your screen and clipped actions is only good for botting

    -...

    -PROFIT!!


    P.S. srsly guys your posts about macro is unable to do waving just made me laugh and showed your lack of knowledge

    in modern gaming software/hardware. no offence just still laughing =D
    Edited by Darkenarlol on August 6, 2018 1:52AM
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