Dragonknights have been getting away with it.

Yakidafi

max_only wrote: »

See! Right here in this thread. BDE trying to silence me.

BDE stands for Big Dk Energy.

Jabbs_Giggity

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Sorcerers: Rune Prison is a freaking terror on the community. It invalidates ALL builds centered around blocking, dodge rolling, warding, tanking, or basically anything that isn't invisible. It terrorizes people to no end, knowing they could at any time be imprisoned into oblivion with this stupid spammable OP mega sorc burst skill.

I don't have a problem playing against the skill so much. ZOS just needs to fix CC Immunity to actually work and reduce Breakfree/Dodgeroll cost for Mag players. 4300 Stamina to break free one CC (Less than 1/3 of Max Stamina pool of 12K), then you get hit with CC's/Immobilize/Snare right after as if Immunity did not proc...

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Nightblades: Incapacitating Strike is obviously just too imba to keep as is. It needs its stun COMPLETELY removed, the damage HALVED, the extra damage buff removed, and needs to have its ult cost upped to compensate for the fact that NO OTHER CLASS IN THE GAME HAS AN ABILITY LIKE INCAP. More people quit from being incapped incessantly than ever before, and enough is enough!

I have no problem fighting NB's that use Incap...turn up your volume and dodgeroll when you hear the Ambush/Lotus sound...

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Templar: Everything. Just everything. Their houses are too powerful, their jesus freaking beam is the best execute in the game, so much that you can just spam it and kill EVERYTHING, and their purges keep entire zergs alive.

Just no....not sure if this is sarcasm or serious...Templar House is a Joke! House vision needs to be omitted from the Templar playstyle - it doesn't work and is incredibly weak...I main a MagPlar and StamPlar since launch and the direction ZOS is going with mobile battles, just no. Rune lasts 8 seconds while Sorc/DK get Major Resolve/Ward for 24 seconds and is mobile. NB's getting by using their spammable. Cleanse cost almost 4K Magicka and the buffs you remove are IMMEDIATELY re-applied in less than a second. Don't even get me started on Radiant...with an 18K Tooltip as a channeled execute there have been more times I have died casting it on a player UNDER 10% health and they live! All while I die because I cannot defend while channeling it...

Please re-evaluate your opinions if you have not proficiently played the classes.

As for DK's - Fix the Perma CC/Immobilize combo. Too long has this been going on where CC Immunity DOES NOT APPLY. Other than that, I think DK's are in a good spot and have been very fairly balanced as of recent patches.

griffkhalifa

Thogard wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Whenever I type out Warden it autocorrects to warden.

Whoops it did it again.

D

K

Warden

God damnit

Wardens get DK wings from the SnB ulti, DK chains from the Fighters Guild, and the speed that DKs could only wish for. Why wouldn’t someone run a stamWarden in PVP?

...unless they’re Masochistic.

And yet there are still so few.

Pay wall

Eh not really.

There used to be more wardens. The decline in warden population in PvP is more recent.

Because when they first came out they were new and people were curious, then they went back to their mains.

Savos_Saren

I still run an Ice Warden in between running my mDK.

Innate+Ysgramor+Valkyn. Those Permafrosts, tho! Also- you know those annoying Ice Reach immobilizers mid-battle? You’re welcome.

DenMoria

I don't think anybody is going to be happy until all magicka and all special skills are removed from the game and we can only run around bopping each other with clubs while grunting.

DrSweetazz

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Seriously though, let's go over the issues.

Sorcerers: Rune Prison is a freaking terror on the community. It invalidates ALL builds centered around blocking, dodge rolling, warding, tanking, or basically anything that isn't invisible. It terrorizes people to no end, knowing they could at any time be imprisoned into oblivion with this stupid spammable OP mega sorc burst skill.

Nightblades: Incapacitating Strike is obviously just too imba to keep as is. It needs its stun COMPLETELY removed, the damage HALVED, the extra damage buff removed, and needs to have its ult cost upped to compensate for the fact that NO OTHER CLASS IN THE GAME HAS AN ABILITY LIKE INCAP. More people quit from being incapped incessantly than ever before, and enough is enough!

Templar: Everything. Just everything. Their houses are too powerful, their jesus freaking beam is the best execute in the game, so much that you can just spam it and kill EVERYTHING, and their purges keep entire zergs alive.



So, let's nerf Take Flight!

/s

Dude this made my day lol. Then people taking your comment seriously made it even better!

ArchMikem

max_only wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Seriously though, let's go over the issues.

Sorcerers: Rune Prison is a freaking terror on the community. It invalidates ALL builds centered around blocking, dodge rolling, warding, tanking, or basically anything that isn't invisible. It terrorizes people to no end, knowing they could at any time be imprisoned into oblivion with this stupid spammable OP mega sorc burst skill.

Spammable? You don't realize how much I've smashed the Rune Cage button and nothing happens.

So you admit to it.

I admit to it not working nearly as people so frantically claim.

JumpmanLane

Too true. Everytime I run BGs I go kill crazy and forget about the objectives lol.

WaltherCarraway

this thread is amazing.

max_only

Yakidafi wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

See! Right here in this thread. BDE trying to silence me.

BDE stands for Big Dk Energy.

Oh y’all got jokes?

All I’m looking for is some cc immunity. Y’all can keep your jokes.

Dragon-knights are secure man, nothing like job security to boost confidence and BDE.

Whomever is the lead Dragonknight in Zos knows what he is about.

The turnover for the Sorc and NB lead is worse than a Spinal Tap drummer.

Templar lead is just dragging along waiting for their pension, no more effort than absolutely necessary.

max_only

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/428150/what-is-in-your-opinion-the-most-satisfying-skill-to-use/p1

Take a look at this thread. Dks know their skills are satisfying and effective. Y’all think no one will notice.

max_only

Can’t drink a potion. Can’t bar swap. Can’t roll dodge. Can’t cast a skill. Always against dk. Why is that? I know I’m a carebear noob and I suck at pvp but I should at least be able to do one of those. Stun-lock. That’s what I’m in. Where is the cc immunity?

I admire you Dks. I couldn’t play one, too boring in pve. Maybe it’s because it was a DC character and their quest line is also boring. I need to revisit him and git gud.

Arthg

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Whenever I type out Warden it autocorrects to warden.

Whoops it did it again.

D

K

Warden

God damnit

Wardens get DK wings from the SnB ulti, DK chains from the Fighters Guild, and the speed that DKs could only wish for. Why wouldn’t someone run a stamWarden in PVP?

...unless they’re Masochistic.

Or loyal to the cause of the STAM DK.

Born one, dies one.

Gilvoth

you mean the "permanent dragonight root spam locks you inplace" glitch they use that no one ever complains about?
it should be a massive complaint on the forums but never is.

Peekachu99

themaddaedra wrote: »

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Whenever I type out Warden it autocorrects to warden.

Whoops it did it again.

D

K

Warden

God damnit

Wardens get DK wings from the SnB ulti, DK chains from the Fighters Guild, and the speed that DKs could only wish for. Why wouldn’t someone run a stamWarden in PVP?

...unless they’re Masochistic.

I think you forgot to mention Sub Assault, an aoe ability that hits harder than most ultis, and doesn't have any kind of warning where it's gonna hit. I still dunno why nobody ever talks about it. It's pure cancer especially in BGs.

So yes, you can make a stamden, spam Sub Assault and Dawnbreaker in BGs and pretend it's not ptw.

Sub Assault puts a pulsing glowing circle around the caster for three seconds and has an audio cue. Unless you’re blind and without your glasses, kinda hard to miss.

Wreuntzylla

max_only wrote: »

Pixel_Zealot wrote: »

What are you on about?

Running a MagDK. It's completely juiceless.

4 dk premade team in Battlegrounds. They wrecked, but they still lost because they were too busy racking up kills to do the objective.

Nothing like getting whipped 4 ways to Oblivion.

I like their definition of win better than yours!

Integral1900

To my fellow dk faithfull... for god sake shush! ZOS reads these forums.... every now and then. I don’t want my beloved dk on the receiving end of yet another round from the nerf bat

I use to main a stam dk, back when we had fire skills to, not these bargain basement poison effects. I mean which would you prefer, having a target keel over from a poison dot, or would you rather have them explode in a ball of flames from your big two handed blow while breathing orange fire!

Ender1310

Dks and temps seem to have it the worst. In my opinion they nerfed stand your ground by buffing oblivion/ giving a prolific class a 200 meter stun.

ak_pvp

max_only wrote: »

Can’t drink a potion. Can’t bar swap. Can’t roll dodge. Can’t cast a skill. Always against dk. Why is that? I know I’m a carebear noob and I suck at pvp but I should at least be able to do one of those. Stun-lock. That’s what I’m in. Where is the cc immunity?

I admire you Dks. I couldn’t play one, too boring in pve. Maybe it’s because it was a DC character and their quest line is also boring. I need to revisit him and git gud.

50% l2p issue, run some root or snare removal and immo pots. 50% cc is broke. Guards can cc with absolutely no cooldown. Rune and fear ccs bug out on break. Cc immunity sometimes too short or doesn't apply, and since dks use ccs a lot, it looks like the dks fault. Though same issues appen otherwise.

Try it fight a sorc and a guard at the same time and you will be taking CCs out the ass.

TrinityBreaker

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Whenever I type out Warden it autocorrects to warden.

Whoops it did it again.

D

K

Warden

God damnit

Wardens get DK wings from the SnB ulti, DK chains from the Fighters Guild, and the speed that DKs could only wish for. Why wouldn’t someone run a stamWarden in PVP?

...unless they’re Masochistic.

You're damn Im masochistic, my stam dk is about to be 5 stars!

max_only

ak_pvp wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Can’t drink a potion. Can’t bar swap. Can’t roll dodge. Can’t cast a skill. Always against dk. Why is that? I know I’m a carebear noob and I suck at pvp but I should at least be able to do one of those. Stun-lock. That’s what I’m in. Where is the cc immunity?

I admire you Dks. I couldn’t play one, too boring in pve. Maybe it’s because it was a DC character and their quest line is also boring. I need to revisit him and git gud.

50% l2p issue, run some root or snare removal and immo pots. 50% cc is broke. Guards can cc with absolutely no cooldown. Rune and fear ccs bug out on break. Cc immunity sometimes too short or doesn't apply, and since dks use ccs a lot, it looks like the dks fault. Though same issues appen otherwise.

Try it fight a sorc and a guard at the same time and you will be taking CCs out the ass.

I tried the immovability potions. I can sit there clicking the button faster than Ellen and nothing happens, it doesn’t get used.

GawdSB

We're quiet because we have nothing else that can possibly be nerfed and we're tired of trying to get balance for our class.

GawdSB

max_only wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Can’t drink a potion. Can’t bar swap. Can’t roll dodge. Can’t cast a skill. Always against dk. Why is that? I know I’m a carebear noob and I suck at pvp but I should at least be able to do one of those. Stun-lock. That’s what I’m in. Where is the cc immunity?

I admire you Dks. I couldn’t play one, too boring in pve. Maybe it’s because it was a DC character and their quest line is also boring. I need to revisit him and git gud.

50% l2p issue, run some root or snare removal and immo pots. 50% cc is broke. Guards can cc with absolutely no cooldown. Rune and fear ccs bug out on break. Cc immunity sometimes too short or doesn't apply, and since dks use ccs a lot, it looks like the dks fault. Though same issues appen otherwise.

Try it fight a sorc and a guard at the same time and you will be taking CCs out the ass.

I tried the immovability potions. I can sit there clicking the button faster than Ellen and nothing happens, it doesn’t get used.

That isn't because you're fighting a dk it's because they're bugged. When I try to use potions period it makes the sound and everything but it doesn't get used and I end up messing up my rotation and what I was about to do because I'm having to look and repeatedly press the button for it to finally be used.

Savos_Saren

I can 100% guarantee that the unusable potion/bar swap/unusable ulti/no cast ability issue isn't because of DKs.

(I'm a DK and I still get those glitches against lots of other players)

I'm guessing it's a combination of multiple effects (stuns, roots, immobs) and lag all calculating at once while you're trying to use pots or cast abilities.

max_only

If you say so. I got my eye on you sneaky Dragonknights...

Savos_Saren

max_only wrote: »

If you say so. I got my eye on you sneaky Dragonknights...

Bruh- my Volatile Armor can't even pull NBs out of stealth... how can I sneak?

Undefwun

max_only wrote: »

Can’t drink a potion. Can’t bar swap. Can’t roll dodge. Can’t cast a skill. Always against dk. Why is that? I know I’m a carebear noob and I suck at pvp but I should at least be able to do one of those. Stun-lock. That’s what I’m in. Where is the cc immunity?.

There is issues with break free no doubt (especially prevalent on Rune Cage and Incap), but just because you called yourself a PvP noob, just thought I'd mention this because I was confused by this for a while in PvP.

Fossilize, the DK CC is a double CC. You have to break free then also dodge roll to actually get out of it. All the while those whips a rolling in and or a leap. Do I dislike that skill? Very much, but it's the DK way and that's the challenge. Only DKs that are muppets are the one's in Durok's and Sload's and Zaan's/Skoria, but any full proctard is a muppet.

Fossilize is the main reason I bound my break free and roll dodge to the scroll wheel. Up to break free and down to roll dodge.
Mag DKs might not as grand as the days of standing in zergs and dynamic ult spamming bats, but saying that they are weak is also not true, but then again I am only delightfully average at PvP.

With my Aussie ping I found it more effective on my stam sorc to run Rune Cage (pre-Summerset) instead of Dizzy. Nothing like putting RC on mag sorc first or a DK at gap closer rnage and getting the bleeds going first.

Avnr

DK dead for yearz , can do better and more with any other class
Stam dk - spawn upper cut/downbreaker not my style -
Mag dk - light armor- better run sorc




So any nerf , not goin to change anything , worse limit passed

DoonerSeraph

"Sorcerers HATE HIM!

See how this incredibly simple trick makes your DK a MONSTER in Cyrodiil!"

ZOS_JesC

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