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Maelstrom Vet way too Hard : (

shiningforce
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Honestly I dont understand why Maelstrom weapons dont drop on normal but give like blues instead of Gold.

I keep trying on vet but its beyond frustrating me.

Finally beat stage five which was just Hell. I am on Stage 6 at the Boss and always almost get her down to around 3% and she always runs up and explodes on me or some crazy crap like one of the pillars not shining for the spiders. The amount of detail you have to put up with to complete this Arena is god awful.

What doesn't make sense is how easy Normal mode is. Its so simple you might as well just hand people the achievement. Vet is just too much going on at once and Ridiculously difficult. I expected hard but not Ironfist edition hard.

As I look around the forums there are literally hundreds of articles and i only got to a few. It needs a Nerf big time is the consensus.
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  • shiningforce
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    Thank you for the guide, much appreciated. I just mean in general though not just boss 6. They could tweak it down a bit. I dont mean by a lot just a bit.
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  • FlyLionel
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    At the time of its release it dropped thee best weapons in the game for most builds, like the first person said; all it really is at the end of the day is a damage per second check, you have the damage and the brain that understands mechanics its a clear.

    You ask for a nerf, 'just a bit' is that for you to just get your complete or are you looking at this objectively? I dont mind old content being tweaked; for I have no use of it and many others. Understand that since orsiniums release the damage cap and set options have been increased by a tremendous amount, so much so that now that piece of content is viewed as modest at worst case scenario. Your time to catch up, remember this is an mmo; old content is content content in the devs eyes. Good luck.
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  • ReachHalo
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    Lol... i wanted to write a post like this when i was struggling through my first vMA experience. Changed my build l, watched you tube clips religiously and just persisted, one arena at a time. All advice i got was 'just keep going, you'll get there'. It never helped, but its the only thing that matters in the end... just persist and you will get there.

    Oh and try not to break stuff .. vMA is expensive enough as it is without breaking your real [removed profanity].

    ... and wait till Stage 7, and then the boss on Stage 9... Stage 6 is a cakewalk in comparison

    But, yep, you guessed it... 'you'll get there'!!!!!!
    Edited by ZOS_JesC on July 11, 2018 3:01PM
  • psxfloh
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    it's less a L2P and more a L2CWPIAB (learn to cope with perfomance issues and bugs)...
    tried VMA a few days ago and made it to the last boss.. that's when my problems started, resources and health (+shield) dropping from 100% to 0 in an instant and things in my death recap that never hit me or were never visible on the screen.

    my guess is, without lag and bugs, the majority would cry "buff VMA", and not the other way 'round...
  • Carl-lan
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    First clear takes forever. Once you do that you’ll be surprised at how much easier it seems. I hadn’t done it in ages and tried again with a new build the other night, and got through it easier than I ever have. I’m pretty casual player and don’t even run that good a setup, and just use basic stam pots - nothing special... I’ve cleared it probably 20 times - again not even running it that often.

    Keep at it, as people have said it’s more about mechanics and how you approach each stage and boss moreso than having just DPS.
  • Apherius
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    I remember when we could not save the progression, I Tried for 8 hours and i did it, with the old stuff and 300 cp.

    Just do it.

    Edited by Apherius on July 11, 2018 11:16AM
  • bongtokin420insd16
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    just outa curiosity, if you leave the Arena and come back does it save your spot or do you have to start the whole thing over?
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  • kylewwefan
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    Once you get it, goes faster. Because you know what to expect, and you’ve become a better player. I was stuck on last boss for a year. Honestly, I’d probably have been better to start over each time I attempted it.
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  • Danksta
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    FlyLionel wrote: »
    At the time of its release it dropped thee best weapons in the game for most builds, like the first person said; all it really is at the end of the day is a damage per second check, you have the damage and the brain that understands mechanics its a clear.

    You ask for a nerf, 'just a bit' is that for you to just get your complete or are you looking at this objectively? I dont mind old content being tweaked; for I have no use of it and many others. Understand that since orsiniums release the damage cap and set options have been increased by a tremendous amount, so much so that now that piece of content is viewed as modest at worst case scenario. Your time to catch up, remember this is an mmo; old content is content content in the devs eyes. Good luck.

    There's not a single hard DPS check in the entire arena.

    Edit: I estimate that my DPS was about 20k when I beat vMA for the first time.
    Edited by Danksta on July 11, 2018 8:27PM
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  • Littlebluelizard
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    Danksta wrote: »

    There's not a single hard DPS check in the entire arena.

    There is, but they are outdated and the numbers "required" are easily achievable to today's standards, or some fights that are so much easier if you have more DPS. 5th last boss for example, is much easier to burn with high DPS. 6th is either a DPS check or you keep stunning the boss over and over which is risky, it's easier to just stun her and burn her with high DPS. 7th arena is easier the less it lasts due to plant RNG, Every Daedroth on final arena was a DPS-check too, it used to require a ult to kill it before it enrages(Fire Breath), and the attack used to be much deadlier too but CP makes it extremely easy as well. Nowadays if you're Stamina, Balista alone melts it.

    That's all I can think on the top of my head, by vMA definitly have DPS checks. Not as obvious like the vAA last boss execute phase, but DPS-checks nonetheless.
    Edited by Littlebluelizard on July 11, 2018 8:38PM
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    L2P issue.
  • Supernatural
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    just outa curiosity, if you leave the Arena and come back does it save your spot or do you have to start the whole thing over?

    The reset timer is 5 minutes.

    If you leave the Arena but have picked up the quest and come back after 5 minutes, you will resume your run from round 1 of the stage you are on, and if you haven't picked up the quest and come back after 5 minutes, you start from scratch.
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  • Nocturnal_Annoyance
    Your first time through VMA will be absolute torture. There are punishing mechanics that will kill you. It takes time. It's so frustrating at times. I struggled through the whole thing... but once I beat it once, it got loads easier. I've been through 5 times so far (first complete a few weeks ago). My last run I finished with 8 vitality. First time I've finished with any, because it gets easier each time as long as you stick with it :) always pick up the quest that way you can leave when it gets to be too much.
  • Gprime31
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    I wonder what percentage has not gotten through vma? Bet it’s high, and yes l2p issue for sure, first time I beat it was 324 cp Magica nightblade long ago, I imagine it’s even easier now.
  • Sparr0w
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    First run is hell, second run is a lot easier, then it just keeps getting easier after that.
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  • Zodiac_
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    We are getting way off topic here.

    EVERYONE died a zillion times when trying to complete it the first time. Yes its easier with every patch cause of the additional cp and the new sets but this doesnt help someone that struggles at his first run there. Nor does when people say "VMA?? cmon its v easy you need to l2p...."

    @shiningforce we can help you a bit more if you wanna share your build and tell us what troubles you more. I also saw that someone already mentioned Joy's guide which is amazing when you try to finish it for the first time. Just be patient and remember that every time you try it and every time you die you are making progress even if you dont understand it.
    Edited by Zodiac_ on July 12, 2018 9:24AM
  • Glaiceana
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    Just keep trying. It is literally the most frustrating and challenging solo thing in this game. You will do it one day though, just keep trying, read the guides like others have said, learn the mechanics, make sure you can survive :)
    As someone who took 8 months on and off to finish VMSA nearly broke my controller and throw the dam controller through the TV i say HELL NO

    This is the only content that gives gives you any good challenge and improves you as a overall player.

    If anybody is not able to finish it rethink your build , read guides trust me on this once when you finish it you will get amazing sense of achievement and it WILL make you better player and make you fell proud to get the title.

    No nerf not even by 1%
    Glad I'm not the only one who flipped out in some way xD I think I possibly broke my hand the night I eventually did complete vMA, died to some rubbish in the ice round, and I thumped the table really hard in my frustration, my god did it hurt, didn't mean to hit it that hard :D
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  • Gladium
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    They do not need to nerf vMA, they need to give us a second solo arena - and make it more difficult while you are at it!
    Edited by Gladium on July 12, 2018 12:05PM
  • montjie
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    Clearing vMA requires a solid build, experience and skill. There are plenty of builds to be found on the internet. Experience comes with time, skills can be developed by practising.
    If someone on a potato pc can clear it on a stamdk without trialsets with only 213 cp im pretty sure anyone willing to put the time and effort in, will be able to complete vMA.

    I however do agree that the difficulty gap between this games normal and vet content is something completely out of wack.
  • ForsakenSin
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    Glaiceana wrote: »
    Just keep trying. It is literally the most frustrating and challenging solo thing in this game. You will do it one day though, just keep trying, read the guides like others have said, learn the mechanics, make sure you can survive :)
    As someone who took 8 months on and off to finish VMSA nearly broke my controller and throw the dam controller through the TV i say HELL NO

    This is the only content that gives gives you any good challenge and improves you as a overall player.

    If anybody is not able to finish it rethink your build , read guides trust me on this once when you finish it you will get amazing sense of achievement and it WILL make you better player and make you fell proud to get the title.

    No nerf not even by 1%
    Glad I'm not the only one who flipped out in some way xD I think I possibly broke my hand the night I eventually did complete vMA, died to some rubbish in the ice round, and I thumped the table really hard in my frustration, my god did it hurt, didn't mean to hit it that hard :D

    LOL
    Damm LOL i hit my bed number of times then took a pillow and started swearing inside of it when i died due to the lag when last boss last phase was at %2 ( was going to hit the wall but it was like 3 am lol )

    however i did broke my xbox elite controller the right bumper is where i use for the shield and i worn it so much it broke lol so when i managed to finish it half of the times my shield was not working and when i tired to change the skill to another button i was dying as i was not used to it

    however would not change it for one bit, after that i done it again and finished it under 1hr and later on it was kind of like relaxing running it just lie down in bed and finish it eventually i got everything i wanted and now part of me misses it.

    I hope in future they will have new single and duo VMSA runs.
    Edited by ForsakenSin on July 15, 2018 11:19PM
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  • phillyproduct
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    Vma is one of the few if not only in game challenges that truly prepares solo players 4 group content if you can beat vet mas you understand mechanics have atleast 20k dps and understand getting out of aoe's is more important than dps
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