To be fair putting that video on the ESO forums is obviously not the best place, these forums are full of happily paying nightblades... I mean customers.
Ragnarock41 wrote: »xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »ok so I have to disagree with that guy in the video like 80% of the time...and seriously JC p2w? erm as far as I know you can use INGAME gold to buy it from those who already have? so u have access even if you are a little winie… sure pvp its worse and I miss the old days and honestly I don't think its gona ever get better unless a complete overhaul...literally but still stop lying to yourselves people...with the garbage idea that you can 1vX...even in the back days...well no actually 6 months after release when the demigods dk that could 1vs 1k players and win you could not go pvx if in that X it was at least 1 guy who knows what he is doing...right now even more...yes I agree that eso put a hinderance into solo pvp playstyle and that is the main reason why I stopped pvping and every time a new dlc chapter or update comes its permanently ignored...also we talking about pro play on consoles? seriously?...ok good one... back on the fact that "nb is the most played class in pvp" go tell that to the endless amount of dk and templar bodies I have to pile almost daily...and yes I did stopped pvping but that doesn't mean I don't do it at least 3 times per week just in case smt might change...pls give more nbs..at least that way I know I wont have to deal with the amount of zergs running around...I feel that the guy in the video is just someone who got frustrated with a narrowminded vision of seeing only the cons of things...
Now I will say that I don't give a crap about this video up there, or ESO dying/living means not much to me, ESO PvP died years ago anyways, what remains will remain for years to come.
But one thing really disturbs me. How can you people not tell the difference between whats pay to win and what is not. Transmutation for example, was not pay to win because you could just use a friend's house for transmutation station and change your weapon/armor traits. (in actual reality I ended up joining a guild cause only very few people actually have access to those transmutation stations)
And then the introduction of gear transmog(a.k.a. costume maker), was not pay to win, but it was designed make you waste money, instead of letting you do whatever you want with your gear. Why do you think there is a huge gold cost for it? And why do you think a single outfit slot, for a single character costs 1k crowns? Eh.. At least it wasn't affecting gameplay.
Which was, fine because of that alone. In the end I could still go PvP or PvE without lacking anything.But transmutation for jewelry changed everything.
Now lets see what jewelrycrafting locked behind paywall means for me. It means no transmuted jewelry. It means no robust ravager for my stamplar, no robust seventh legion/fury for my stamDk, no swift bone pirate for my stamsorc... People like you , who say jewelrycrafting is not pay to win, is either living in a denial or has no clue what pay to win actually means.
And we didn't even mentioned the new skill line...
So wake up. For this is only going to end up worse for all of you. Zenimax is asking for more and more money each year, and they are slowly introducing pay to win mechanics into the game, which I decided to not support anymore. If you think that this is fine, next year they will come up with something even more ridicilous.
I've already made my thoughts known in the previous times this video has been brought up.
At this point, Hobo's fans seem to be pushing his misguided views on the game he makes a profit from...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415187/doomed-for-failure#latest
He's become infatuated with Dark Souls. And while there's nothing wrong with that, he seems to want to correlate ESO dying for everyone because it's dying for him personally....you don't need to be a Youtuber to make that mistake. People do it here on the forums constantly.
What makes calling for nightblade nerfs absolutely ridiculous is that he plays nightblade....
https://youtu.be/CT5qTVrVe_c
And ever since he put out his secret nightblade build, he's been calling for nerfs.
Too much contradiction and hypocrisy to take his views seriously.
I've already made my thoughts known in the previous times this video has been brought up.
At this point, Hobo's fans seem to be pushing his misguided views on the game he makes a profit from...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415187/doomed-for-failure#latest
He's become infatuated with Dark Souls. And while there's nothing wrong with that, he seems to want to correlate ESO dying for everyone because it's dying for him personally....you don't need to be a Youtuber to make that mistake. People do it here on the forums constantly.
What makes calling for nightblade nerfs absolutely ridiculous is that he plays nightblade....
https://youtu.be/CT5qTVrVe_c
And ever since he put out his secret nightblade build, he's been calling for nerfs.
Too much contradiction and hypocrisy to take his views seriously.
That is just silly. All of that, and you don't consider the fact that maybe since he is calling for a nerf of his own build, maybe he is being honest and correct about his class ruining the game?
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”
― Robert E. Howard
I've already made my thoughts known in the previous times this video has been brought up.
At this point, Hobo's fans seem to be pushing his misguided views on the game he makes a profit from...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415187/doomed-for-failure#latest
He's become infatuated with Dark Souls. And while there's nothing wrong with that, he seems to want to correlate ESO dying for everyone because it's dying for him personally....you don't need to be a Youtuber to make that mistake. People do it here on the forums constantly.
What makes calling for nightblade nerfs absolutely ridiculous is that he plays nightblade....
https://youtu.be/CT5qTVrVe_c
And ever since he put out his secret nightblade build, he's been calling for nerfs.
Too much contradiction and hypocrisy to take his views seriously.
i think it is a lame play style for one clas to be able to totally control the engagement via disappearing
Ragnarock41 wrote: »xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »ok so I have to disagree with that guy in the video like 80% of the time...and seriously JC p2w? erm as far as I know you can use INGAME gold to buy it from those who already have? so u have access even if you are a little winie… sure pvp its worse and I miss the old days and honestly I don't think its gona ever get better unless a complete overhaul...literally but still stop lying to yourselves people...with the garbage idea that you can 1vX...even in the back days...well no actually 6 months after release when the demigods dk that could 1vs 1k players and win you could not go pvx if in that X it was at least 1 guy who knows what he is doing...right now even more...yes I agree that eso put a hinderance into solo pvp playstyle and that is the main reason why I stopped pvping and every time a new dlc chapter or update comes its permanently ignored...also we talking about pro play on consoles? seriously?...ok good one... back on the fact that "nb is the most played class in pvp" go tell that to the endless amount of dk and templar bodies I have to pile almost daily...and yes I did stopped pvping but that doesn't mean I don't do it at least 3 times per week just in case smt might change...pls give more nbs..at least that way I know I wont have to deal with the amount of zergs running around...I feel that the guy in the video is just someone who got frustrated with a narrowminded vision of seeing only the cons of things...
Now I will say that I don't give a crap about this video up there, or ESO dying/living means not much to me, ESO PvP died years ago anyways, what remains will remain for years to come.
But one thing really disturbs me. How can you people not tell the difference between whats pay to win and what is not. Transmutation for example, was not pay to win because you could just use a friend's house for transmutation station and change your weapon/armor traits. (in actual reality I ended up joining a guild cause only very few people actually have access to those transmutation stations)
And then the introduction of gear transmog(a.k.a. costume maker), was not pay to win, but it was designed make you waste money, instead of letting you do whatever you want with your gear. Why do you think there is a huge gold cost for it? And why do you think a single outfit slot, for a single character costs 1k crowns? Eh.. At least it wasn't affecting gameplay.
Which was, fine because of that alone. In the end I could still go PvP or PvE without lacking anything.But transmutation for jewelry changed everything.
Now lets see what jewelrycrafting locked behind paywall means for me. It means no transmuted jewelry. It means no robust ravager for my stamplar, no robust seventh legion/fury for my stamDk, no swift bone pirate for my stamsorc... People like you , who say jewelrycrafting is not pay to win, is either living in a denial or has no clue what pay to win actually means.
And we didn't even mentioned the new skill line...
So wake up. For this is only going to end up worse for all of you. Zenimax is asking for more and more money each year, and they are slowly introducing pay to win mechanics into the game, which I decided to not support anymore. If you think that this is fine, next year they will come up with something even more ridicilous.
Seriously? You do know that you can buy/trade with other people in-game for the items you want, right? You don't need to PAY anything outside of the game. Furthermore, ZOS is a 'for profit' company that needs a constant source of revenue to survive, and adding desirable content into 'chapters' entice more players to purchase it. Desirable doesn't mean P2W... and if you cannot 'win' without the items you mentioned... then you have other problems besides worrying about P2W- which is non-existent in ESO btw.
I've already made my thoughts known in the previous times this video has been brought up.
At this point, Hobo's fans seem to be pushing his misguided views on the game he makes a profit from...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415187/doomed-for-failure#latest
He's become infatuated with Dark Souls. And while there's nothing wrong with that, he seems to want to correlate ESO dying for everyone because it's dying for him personally....you don't need to be a Youtuber to make that mistake. People do it here on the forums constantly.
What makes calling for nightblade nerfs absolutely ridiculous is that he plays nightblade....
https://youtu.be/CT5qTVrVe_c
And ever since he put out his secret nightblade build, he's been calling for nerfs.
Too much contradiction and hypocrisy to take his views seriously.
i think it is a lame play style for one clas to be able to totally control the engagement via disappearing
Only they dont...once you've been ganked enough times you know exactly what they're going to do most of the time and the fact they disappear is negated by the fact that they can be brought out of stealth by every form of damage in the game excluding direct damage.
They control the initial engagement ... but thats about it. How it turns out is dependant on how you react to the gank. You know incapps coming immediately upon being attacked and so you block... etc. at least 70% of nightblades will immediately incapp rather than waiting for the perfect time and so they become predictable and thus counter-able.
Its really not difficult.
Well, how bad can it be when we started off the new chapter with this:
And yes, I really do love this mount!
I honestly tell my friends to avoid it b/c of the Crown Store, volatile Cyrodiil PvP Zone, and lack of Achievement rewards/not being account wide. I share the positives as well but there are many things I would have loved to be featured in this game but unfortunately aren't. I only play and tolerant ESO despite the drawbacks, because I really like The Elder Scroll Series as whole and the lore behind it. And the combat is pretty good too.
I've already made my thoughts known in the previous times this video has been brought up.
At this point, Hobo's fans seem to be pushing his misguided views on the game he makes a profit from...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415187/doomed-for-failure#latest
He's become infatuated with Dark Souls. And while there's nothing wrong with that, he seems to want to correlate ESO dying for everyone because it's dying for him personally....you don't need to be a Youtuber to make that mistake. People do it here on the forums constantly.
What makes calling for nightblade nerfs absolutely ridiculous is that he plays nightblade....
https://youtu.be/CT5qTVrVe_c
And ever since he put out his secret nightblade build, he's been calling for nerfs.
Too much contradiction and hypocrisy to take his views seriously.
zergs, despite what everyone says zergs have always been there. For full transparency i have a very large problem with small scale, it hurts the alliance. cyro should be about army vs army working together towards helping there alliance, alliance loyalty, saying *** ap are where cyro gets to shine the brightest. And before I get a bunch of hate from small scale, yes you are fully entitled to play how you want, i just wish battle grounds wasnt terrible and offered these players a better way to do this
Cillion3117 wrote: »I guess I'm just old school. I play the games that I like and don't play the games I dont like. I would never complain online about a game I'm playing. I would just stop playing and move on with my life.
I've already made my thoughts known in the previous times this video has been brought up.
At this point, Hobo's fans seem to be pushing his misguided views on the game he makes a profit from...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415187/doomed-for-failure#latest
He's become infatuated with Dark Souls. And while there's nothing wrong with that, he seems to want to correlate ESO dying for everyone because it's dying for him personally....you don't need to be a Youtuber to make that mistake. People do it here on the forums constantly.
What makes calling for nightblade nerfs absolutely ridiculous is that he plays nightblade....
https://youtu.be/CT5qTVrVe_c
And ever since he put out his secret nightblade build, he's been calling for nerfs.
Too much contradiction and hypocrisy to take his views seriously.
That is just silly. All of that, and you don't consider the fact that maybe since he is calling for a nerf of his own build, maybe he is being honest and correct about his class ruining the game? I don't see how calling for a nerf of his own class makes him less credible, ESPECIALLY when he makes money off of it. Maybe he doesn't play anymore because the lack of class balance actually does ruin the game. Maybe he is just playing a nightblade to begin with because he sees how overpowered they are in vet pvp and he (like many other people) is tired of trying to overcome them with a lesser class -i'm currently preparing two nightblade builds for vet pvp, and I was doing so before i saw this post or this video for that exact reason... i actually HATE nightblades. i think it is a lame play style for one clas to be able to totally control the engagement via disappearing, and also having a super high burst, making them almost impossible to beat 1v1 in certain situations. I DO NOT want to play nightblade, but I am making two because I'm just sick of being the one playing a lesser class and having to fight against them.
Hell, why don't we ALL create nightblades? we can all just cloak around and incap each other
I've already made my thoughts known in the previous times this video has been brought up.
At this point, Hobo's fans seem to be pushing his misguided views on the game he makes a profit from...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415187/doomed-for-failure#latest
He's become infatuated with Dark Souls. And while there's nothing wrong with that, he seems to want to correlate ESO dying for everyone because it's dying for him personally....you don't need to be a Youtuber to make that mistake. People do it here on the forums constantly.
What makes calling for nightblade nerfs absolutely ridiculous is that he plays nightblade....
And ever since he put out his secret nightblade build, he's been calling for nerfs.
Too much contradiction and hypocrisy to take his views seriously.
Point is, he was more than fine using it to his advantage until he released it to everyone.
You would have a point if he was speaking up about nightblades the entire time, not just after he let his secret build out...the one he didn't even share with his closest friends, by his own words.
He was gleefully using that "unbalanced class" as you put it, without ever saying a word.
That's the point. He was never concerned about nightblade balance until he let his own cat out of the bag. And now it is out, that's the time he choses to talk about nerfs? Seems disingenuous.
Edit for spelling
you are misunderstanding me. i dont even care about nightblades and whether they are strong or not strong. im not even really calling them for a nerf.... i was just responding to another "jabrone", who literally said that because the youtuber was getting into dark souls and quitting eso at the same time, that that automatically meant nothing he said about nightblades was credible... my point is.... this dude played the NB at a very high level and is basically committing nightblade suicide by divulging his build then calling for it's nerf... did you ever want your strongest build taken away? i know i didnt, even if i got kind of sick of it. all im saying is that is blatantly ignoring insight