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stamina being drained by "unknown"
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To further clarify my point that this is CMX/API issue here I have screenshot from combat log.
If you look, there are 2 magicka regen ticks but no stamina regen ticks (yes i was low on stamina). What happened to those ticks? They were added by CMX to the next ability. In this case, the instance of 607 stamina lost from unknown is me casting sub assault and 746 lost is me casting endless hail.
My sub assault costs 2425 stamina, my regen is 1818. If you put 1818-2425 you get => -607
My endless hail costs 2564 stamina. If put with regen 1818-2564 you get => -746
I dont know if there is any ingame bug with stamina loss or not, but in this case I show, there obviously isnt any stamina lost. Maybe OP or other people in this thread were subjected to some stamina drain, but as you can see, showing combat log from CMX is not really good metric to prove it.
And neither is using 'feelings' of having worse sustain.
There is absolutely no arguement as to whether or not this is happening to both stamina and magicka and the reliability of CMX is irrelevant. There's a thread from February which has video proof, acknowledgement from Zos, and they even tried to patch it, but failed to fix the problem.
Plain and simple you should not lose resources standing still and out of combat while not using abilities.
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✭✭I am unsure if you guys are talking about the bug where you start sprinting for no reason while all your skills are locked and you lose stamina. This one has been fixed before and came back with this patch more aggressively.
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✭✭I am unsure if you guys are talking about the bug where you start sprinting for no reason while all your skills are locked and you lose stamina. This one has been fixed before and came back with this patch more aggressively.
...... it almost sounds like I'm speaking of a type of cancer.
Nope that's a different bug, can be fixed most of the time by using sprint again1 -
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unable to sustain a 4 heavy attack rotation on a 3 mil dummy. i have parsed an embarrassing amount of hours on stam characters and never had a problem like this or seen this in the log.
The "unknown" is the game punishing you for not buying enough crown crates.
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Archamus✭✭✭Has anyone from ZoS spoken up to indicate this is on their radar and being addressed. It is tough trying to plan for this unknown resource drain, and its also something we shouldn't have to do. It made vHoF really rough tonight when our tank was getting hit on a regular basis for 3k+ unknown stamina ticks.Edited by Archamus on May 29, 2018 2:49AM4
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Itacira✭✭✭✭✭Oooooh, I didn't look at CMX but I DID notice that my sustain was horrendous lately. I assumed it was because I'm trying to include more light attacks in my rotation but even then I felt it didn't quite explain how unreliable my stamina is.Edited by Itacira on May 30, 2018 12:13AMPC/EU - PVE 2H stam orc petsorc (meta, what meta?) ww - terrible dps - mediocre player - fun times - free ww bites to whomever asks so don't be shy if interested0 -
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Lol, they hot fixed it with maintenance today, but of course a game breaking issue like stat regen and we can't even get a response. Zos priorities smh
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Zeromaz✭✭✭✭This has been happening for a very long time. I thought i was tripping but it seems not. So many terrible bugs and broken abilities in this game but they can’t get to fixing it because the new reskin costumes need to be released in purple so it can go on the crown store for $15.1 -
resdayn00✭✭✭This sounds interesting, I’ll have a look tomorrow. My magicka was running out terribly quickly today, I was having an unnaturally hard time with sustain, but brushed it off as me paying less attention. Maybe these are connected and something is indeed draining resources.PC EU - Ebonheart Pact
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Arrodisia✭✭✭✭✭This unknown magicka and stamina drain is happening in PvE and PvP Cyrodil, sometimes with higher numbers being drained. It makes all fights but especially longer fights too energy draining to sustain. Since it is both magicka and stamina it should be looked into and addressed to keep the player base healthy.3 -
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To further clarify my point that this is CMX/API issue here I have screenshot from combat log.
If you look, there are 2 magicka regen ticks but no stamina regen ticks (yes i was low on stamina). What happened to those ticks? They were added by CMX to the next ability. In this case, the instance of 607 stamina lost from unknown is me casting sub assault and 746 lost is me casting endless hail.
My sub assault costs 2425 stamina, my regen is 1818. If you put 1818-2425 you get => -607
My endless hail costs 2564 stamina. If put with regen 1818-2564 you get => -746
I dont know if there is any ingame bug with stamina loss or not, but in this case I show, there obviously isnt any stamina lost. Maybe OP or other people in this thread were subjected to some stamina drain, but as you can see, showing combat log from CMX is not really good metric to prove it.
And neither is using 'feelings' of having worse sustain.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. CMX cannot handle these cases where a regen tick happens at the same time as the useage of an ability. Earlier versions discarded those, the newer ones show "unkown".Only when you are sure you shouldn't have lost magicka or stamina, it would indicate a bug.
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Jeirno✭✭✭✭I have same kind of issues but it happens only 2-5 times during a 3mil dummy fight, so I dont think its related to bar swapping as you would swap bars more than 2-5 times.0 -
mrpaxman✭✭✭i just got the stamina drain issue a few times only minutes a go. hitting rapids and being in combat with a DPS dummy. it happened a few times in combat. 3 duration's of combat i had a stamina drain issue. then suddenly it stopped happening each test since. i see my regen of stamina go up while the stamina drain ticks are also visible. my test was on a magblade using only that 1 stamina skill. i was only heavy attacking with a restoration staff to stay in combat to see the drain happen after i first noticed itVictory or Valhalla!
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zos fix that bug from stamina lost unknown there is a bug that sadness for anyone got bug like others
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Solinur✭✭✭This may be related: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5210741/#Comment_5210741@Solinur Pact EU - PC (Solinur: Templar - Magicka DD, Moves-like-Günther: Sorcerer - Stamina DD, Kinara Sol: Templar - Stamina DD, )
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terrannova✭✭✭I have been seeing this happening for a loong time now in cyrodill. At first i was thinking that someone is hitting me with a poison for stamina drain and i was like ok.
But i have been noticing that even when im attacking mobs in cyrodill this happens. Ticks of stamina being drained while nothing is happening im alone after a while killing mobs.
In particular in resources i killed every NPC and im capping the flag while noticable big ticks drain my stamina for no reason0 -
IARTOI✭✭✭ZENIMAXXXX god damn when will you do something about it. Don't you see people suffering because of this bug.
Dear ZoS devs. How many times we should scream here to you hear us. You see there is a problem and we got sick of die because of it. I don't know if you have felt that feeling but when you die in a fight due to resource drain bug which you can win but your enemy kills you and t-bag you and they think they won that fight with their playing abilities. I don't care about being killed or I am not arrogant person. But dying like this NO I can not accept it.
Look this became boring. Its been months but you are not even answer us. Is it only worth answer for easy PvE quest bugs? This bug is the most important one in the game now. I dont know what you can do now but please fix it in next maintenance.
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Solinur✭✭✭ZENIMAXXXX god damn when will you do something about it. Don't you see people suffering because of this bug.
Dear ZoS devs. How many times we should scream here to you hear us. You see there is a problem and we got sick of die because of it. I don't know if you have felt that feeling but when you die in a fight due to resource drain bug which you can win but your enemy kills you and t-bag you and they think they won that fight with their playing abilities. I don't care about being killed or I am not arrogant person. But dying like this NO I can not accept it.
Look this became boring. Its been months but you are not even answer us. Is it only worth answer for easy PvE quest bugs? This bug is the most important one in the game now. I dont know what you can do now but please fix it in next maintenance.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_MikaS @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GaryA
DO SOMETHING!!!
Until they can reproduce the issue it's hard to fix anything. If you supply videos or more insights, chances improve that they can fix it.
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IARTOI✭✭✭ZENIMAXXXX god damn when will you do something about it. Don't you see people suffering because of this bug.
Dear ZoS devs. How many times we should scream here to you hear us. You see there is a problem and we got sick of die because of it. I don't know if you have felt that feeling but when you die in a fight due to resource drain bug which you can win but your enemy kills you and t-bag you and they think they won that fight with their playing abilities. I don't care about being killed or I am not arrogant person. But dying like this NO I can not accept it.
Look this became boring. Its been months but you are not even answer us. Is it only worth answer for easy PvE quest bugs? This bug is the most important one in the game now. I dont know what you can do now but please fix it in next maintenance.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_MikaS @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GaryA
DO SOMETHING!!!
Until they can reproduce the issue it's hard to fix anything. If you supply videos or more insights, chances improve that they can fix it.
There are many proofs and many threads. Here my video proof. Look at the date of it. They just don't reponse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qklxYreNTQo Edited by IARTOI on June 12, 2018 9:14PM0 -
Solinur✭✭✭ZENIMAXXXX god damn when will you do something about it. Don't you see people suffering because of this bug.
Dear ZoS devs. How many times we should scream here to you hear us. You see there is a problem and we got sick of die because of it. I don't know if you have felt that feeling but when you die in a fight due to resource drain bug which you can win but your enemy kills you and t-bag you and they think they won that fight with their playing abilities. I don't care about being killed or I am not arrogant person. But dying like this NO I can not accept it.
Look this became boring. Its been months but you are not even answer us. Is it only worth answer for easy PvE quest bugs? This bug is the most important one in the game now. I dont know what you can do now but please fix it in next maintenance.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_MikaS @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GaryA
DO SOMETHING!!!
Until they can reproduce the issue it's hard to fix anything. If you supply videos or more insights, chances improve that they can fix it.
There are many proofs and many threads. Here my video proof. Look at the date of it. They just don't reponse.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qklxYreNTQo
This is the lost resources at weapon swap bug that supposedly was fixed?
Is this here the same one, because there seems to be at least another one happening outside of weapon swaps?@Solinur Pact EU - PC (Solinur: Templar - Magicka DD, Moves-like-Günther: Sorcerer - Stamina DD, Kinara Sol: Templar - Stamina DD, )
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IARTOI✭✭✭ZENIMAXXXX god damn when will you do something about it. Don't you see people suffering because of this bug.
Dear ZoS devs. How many times we should scream here to you hear us. You see there is a problem and we got sick of die because of it. I don't know if you have felt that feeling but when you die in a fight due to resource drain bug which you can win but your enemy kills you and t-bag you and they think they won that fight with their playing abilities. I don't care about being killed or I am not arrogant person. But dying like this NO I can not accept it.
Look this became boring. Its been months but you are not even answer us. Is it only worth answer for easy PvE quest bugs? This bug is the most important one in the game now. I dont know what you can do now but please fix it in next maintenance.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_MikaS @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GaryA
DO SOMETHING!!!
Until they can reproduce the issue it's hard to fix anything. If you supply videos or more insights, chances improve that they can fix it.
There are many proofs and many threads. Here my video proof. Look at the date of it. They just don't reponse.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qklxYreNTQo
This is the lost resources at weapon swap bug that supposedly was fixed?
Is this here the same one, because there seems to be at least another one happening outside of weapon swaps?
I dont think its bar swap bug. Also my stamina is same on both bars. This is something else.0 -
Azramel✭✭✭i was loosing stamina while standing still doing nothing that was so noticeable I could see my stamina bar go up from recovery and then went back down. Did this for almost 10 seconds.1 -
mrpaxman✭✭✭i was loosing stamina while standing still doing nothing that was so noticeable I could see my stamina bar go up from recovery and then went back down. Did this for almost 10 seconds.
Agreed totally. I was standing there and had hit rapids on my magblade and resto attcacked my DPS dummy to gain ulti while walking past. I saw the exact same things 3 times in a row. It was no issue after doing further testing attempts after that. I noticed this issue before finding it already here on the forums or any where else. I'ts like watching your health go up and down like you have a DoT on you and your health regen is going up at different times/ticks. This is what i was seeing happen to my Stamina. Quite noticable when your resources are not full and regen is the only thing we usually see and there is a stamina drain tick happening also.Victory or Valhalla!
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https://youtu.be/S9gTmKUvZEo
Common bug for me since release of Summerset. Xbox One, EU side.
Often losing much larger chunks then this.
Relatively seasoned player and finding random fights completely impossible to sustain in.
Landing several heavy attacks in a row just leaves my character in a perpetual loop of almost 0 resource recovery. Sometimes the only option left for my character is to literally walk and die after the inclusion of a stam drain poison, as i'm on 0% stamina.
Please note this time it's not a L2P issue!!
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