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Full screen advertising is not appreciated

  • MaleAmazon
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    They are a business you know. And like any business they only exist to make money. Thats why this game exists.

    :'(

    No really, I hope this isn´t true. It´s true for some people, but I´d like to think they actually wanted to make a good game as well.

    And yeah, someone at ZoS needs to google "reactance psychology".
  • Rain_Greyraven
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    GlennGVZ wrote: »
    Please please someone create an addon for this garbage to be removed

    Having had a hand in several add-on's......it just can't be done without altering things Zen just doesn't want you to alter....in other words even if one was created it wouldn't be around too long.

    Besides I have more important addons to finish like the look left and right add-on


    MaleAmazon wrote: »

    :'(

    No really, I hope this isn´t true. It´s true for some people, but I´d like to think they actually wanted to make a good game as well.

    And yeah, someone at ZoS needs to google "reactance psychology".


    Of course it's true...we live in a capitalistic society (well unless you're Venezuela) and "reactance psychology" (which I guess is the new outrage buzz word used on campus among the so called Enlightened) doesn't even enter the picture...no one is taking anything from you, they are adding a new form of advertising in a attempt to increase their sales....just like every other business that wishes for their company to be profitable, and here is the real shocker there are many of us who believe they have made a good game and there isn't anything wrong with them wanting it to be profitable.

    If the ads offend you press the alt key and move on with your life, honestly how hard is that?.... and if one millisecond motion is too traumatic you have bigger issues.
    Edited by Rain_Greyraven on May 22, 2018 1:54PM
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  • BladedMischief
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    It is too much, I agree. Report it as a bug as others have said, and move on with your day. Just report, close and play.
    I get it, it’s annoying that it constantly appears. Just report it as a bug, that’s all you can do.
    Part of me wants to say that this was not ZOS’ intention to have these ads constantly bombarding players, it’s frustrating at best and if anything; makes me not want to buy anything from the crown store (especially when the ad is telling me about stuff that I’ve already purchased, acting as though I haven’t)
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  • MissBizz
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    I'll just add to what others have said.

    An extremely intrusive ad every time I log in, advertising the chapter I'm currently playing does nothing but annoy me.

    I'm already playing it, maybe make the ad move along. Also, I don't want to see if 50 times a day when I'm swapping toons.
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  • aeowulf
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    ditto.

    Should not see adds on a product i'm already paying for.

    Especially for a product I have already bought.
    Edited by aeowulf on May 22, 2018 1:39PM
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    If they limited to a one time pop up every 24 hours, I would be fine with it. I dont need it on every F'ing Character, every damn time i log on.
  • Elsonso
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    CiliPadi wrote: »
    Pressing ALT is not too hard. Maybe someone can code up a mod to do that on login ...hehe

    Hopefully...
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  • DoctorESO
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    The pre-summerset wall didn't show up half the time, at least you can just alt out of it.

    The next step will be to have that thing pop up every time we zone into a new area or instance.

    “Welcome to vCOA! Remember, we have crown crates? Here’s your reminder! Buy stuff!”

    And the next step will be NPCs alluding to the crown store. Or a herald following you around (like Stuga) announcing the latest limited-time only and yelling at you to BUY IT NOW.
  • Troneon
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    This is what I think before logging in.... I wonder if anything worth buying...

    Get smacked with forced full screen advertising, instant response....

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  • DieAlteHexe
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    aeowulf wrote: »
    ditto.

    Should not see adds on a product i'm already paying for.

    Especially for a product I have already bought.

    I don't even have a problem with that. I do dislike it showing up with every login. I swap characters often and even with the banging on the ALT key it's still too much. Back it up to how it used to be, please.

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  • Garish
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    Agreed. Please ZOS, reduce the adverts for the crown store to their previous size and make them pop up just once a day per account. We know our way to the forums if we want more information. This is just aggravating your customers. But I am starting to think that is exactly what you are trying to do with the latest trends in the crown store.
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  • runicnomad
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    Fix the problem!
    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info865-Nothankyou.html#info
    This removes a ton of annoying junk which includes the announcement window at start up.

    Follow instructions in comments to remove the UI errors.
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Morgha_Kul wrote: »
    Do you guys remember the Star Trek TNG Episode "The Game?" This sort of thing reminds me of the bit near the end where they're forcing Wesley to use the game thing, and the cone just keeps getting bigger and bigger until it completely fills his field of view.

    I'm also reminded of a scene from "Patton," when General Patton first arrives in Kasserine. There's a woman trying to sell him two chickens, and she runs right up constantly shouting at him, holding the chickens right in his face the whole time he's there, right up til he enters the HQ.

    They don't seem to understand what I've been saying for some time now in various threads. You don't make money by alienating your customers. Idiotic prices and hard sell advertising only pisses people off, and actually DISCOURAGES them making any purchases. They're damaging their business AGAIN.

    I swear, I really want the game to do well, but I'm getting more and more disillusioned with Elder Crown Store Online.

    Its like these companies have to learn this the hard way themselves time and again. They cant look at other companies in similar situations and learn from their faults. They have to experience it for themselves to find out they arent the exception.
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  • Horker
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    I'll gues ill be writing Macro's again to auto promt hide this crap, wait making a addon is better lmao
    Edited by Horker on May 23, 2018 7:23AM
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  • Horker
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    Fix the problem!
    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info865-Nothankyou.html#info
    This removes a ton of annoying junk which includes the announcement window at start up.

    Follow instructions in comments to remove the UI errors.

    I'll bend over for you, thanks!
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  • idrankyourbeer
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    Fix the problem!
    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info865-Nothankyou.html#info
    This removes a ton of annoying junk which includes the announcement window at start up.

    Follow instructions in comments to remove the UI errors.



    nice!

    give it a week and theyll probably put out a brand new patch that disables the addon though.
  • Coolits
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    Instead of making me want to spend money in the store this intrusive advert has the absolute opposite effect, in fact between this and gambling crates It’s pretty clear the direction this game is going.
  • DrOuttaSight
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    CiliPadi wrote: »
    Pressing ALT is not too hard. Maybe someone can code up a mod to do that on login ...hehe

    After reading the first time I hit the ESC key

    The May 23 patch maintenance might fix the second time around problem (fingers & toes crossed)
    Edited by DrOuttaSight on May 23, 2018 8:04AM
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  • FrancisCrawford
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    It is too much, I agree. Report it as a bug as others have said, and move on with your day. Just report, close and play.
    I get it, it’s annoying that it constantly appears. Just report it as a bug, that’s all you can do.
    Part of me wants to say that this was not ZOS’ intention to have these ads constantly bombarding players, it’s frustrating at best and if anything; makes me not want to buy anything from the crown store (especially when the ad is telling me about stuff that I’ve already purchased, acting as though I haven’t)

    I had a full-screen ad a few hours ago asking me to preorder Summerset. At the time, I was logging into a character located in Alinor.
  • Morgha_Kul
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    Coolits wrote: »
    Instead of making me want to spend money in the store this intrusive advert has the absolute opposite effect, in fact between this and gambling crates It’s pretty clear the direction this game is going.

    Yep... and I called it when it began, back when they announced F2P.
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  • MercTheMage
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    It's not the ad that bothers me, as much as it is the fact that it pops up after every single god damn character swap.
    Why am I even seeing an ad for summerset?! I bought it, I own it, I even got the freaking collectors edition!
    Why am I still being badgered into buying it??
    You just going to stand there like a lemon?
  • maboleth
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    Just one, tiny tiny button with "Show this popup again" untick would do. ;)
  • idrankyourbeer
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    maboleth wrote: »
    Just one, tiny tiny button with "Show this popup again" untick would do. ;)

    they'll probably implement that option eventually to ESO+ Subscribers.
  • Varana
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    Three things that bother me about that screen:

    - Its new size. Half the space isn't even used by the ad, it's just empty. What?
    - That it pops up at every re-log and character switch. That's plainly unnecessary and takes the ad into the annoyance territory. Seriously annoying when you switch often.
    - That it's showing me content I already have, prominently. I'm not against crown store ads, I even have ESO+ crowns to spend. But when the screen starts with a Preorder Summerset ad, that's a surefire way to get me trying a new record at pressing Alt. In general, I'm all for non-personalised ads if that means it's not profiling me. But this is an MMO account. They monitor everything all the time. I mean, even I can write IF summerset=0 THEN PRINT "Buy Summerset!" ELSE RETURN. :D Sure, if people bought nearly everything that's on offer, the ad may be short or empty, but then, that's people that bought everything, they're fine. Maybe cycle through the rest of the store for them, and in the end, display a message "Congratulations! You've beaten the Crown Store!" :D

    Yes, ZOS is in the business of making money. Creating an annoyance and trying to sell me stuff I already have isn't exactly helpful with that.
  • MrWesleyPipes
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    ^^^what they all said xD
  • Blutengel
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    Varana wrote: »
    things that bother me about that screen:

    - Its new size. Half the space isn't even used by the ad, it's just empty. What?

    Its empty now but that's where the daily log-in rewards calendar will be starting next month. If you want free stuff you click the day and get whats offerd. Look up TERA online and that's pretty much what it will be.

    Edited by Blutengel on May 23, 2018 9:36AM
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  • Juponen
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    What next?

    Let me guess:

    login

    be greeted: "Welcome to ESO, this is ad 1/5. The game will commence after the commercials. Ad will close in 5 seconds. 4...3...2...." Ad will close in 5 seconds. 4...3...2...." Ad will close in 5 seconds. 4...3...2...." Ad will close in 5 seconds. 4...3...2...." Ad will close in 5 seconds. 4...3...2...."
  • Everstorm
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    It's not the ad that bothers me, as much as it is the fact that it pops up after every single god damn character swap.
    Why am I even seeing an ad for summerset?! I bought it, I own it, I even got the freaking collectors edition!
    Why am I still being badgered into buying it??

    I'm not a big fan of targetted advertising where you're wondering just how much they are tracking everything we do online. But this is in-company information, I pre-ordered they day I could so why did I get an email about it yesterday? Just tag my account.
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    They are a business you know. And like any business they only exist to make money. Thats why this game exists. Do you get mad every time you see a commercial on TV. Fact is if they don't make money then you will have no more game to play.

    And, as a business they should probably know when they are accomplishing the exact opposite of what they want with their “in your face” style of advertising. ESO is not a F2P game. It is B2P. We spent money from the start. We don’t need to constantly be reminded that there is a cash shop in the game. It’s there. We know.

    This kind of aggressive advertising is the reason people don’t like mobile F2P games as much as paid pc and console games. There’s also a reason why people opt for Netflix and Amazon over cable tv. No advertising.

    Their advertising worked fine when it was limited to the launcher. Having an icon for the crown store on the character menu is enough. If people are interested in spending money, they’ll go in there and look.

    Bingo.

    Just what they were told on the PTS, but they didn't listen.

    ZoS is letting marketing be involved in game design decisions way too much and, in the long run, it is going to hurt the game rather than help it.
  • DieAlteHexe
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    Wayshuba wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    They are a business you know. And like any business they only exist to make money. Thats why this game exists. Do you get mad every time you see a commercial on TV. Fact is if they don't make money then you will have no more game to play.

    And, as a business they should probably know when they are accomplishing the exact opposite of what they want with their “in your face” style of advertising. ESO is not a F2P game. It is B2P. We spent money from the start. We don’t need to constantly be reminded that there is a cash shop in the game. It’s there. We know.

    This kind of aggressive advertising is the reason people don’t like mobile F2P games as much as paid pc and console games. There’s also a reason why people opt for Netflix and Amazon over cable tv. No advertising.

    Their advertising worked fine when it was limited to the launcher. Having an icon for the crown store on the character menu is enough. If people are interested in spending money, they’ll go in there and look.

    Bingo.

    Just what they were told on the PTS, but they didn't listen.

    ZoS is letting marketing be involved in game design decisions way too much and, in the long run, it is going to hurt the game rather than help it.

    Yeah, whale though I am, this is getting entirely too intrusive. Also, being as stubborn as I am, it's having the opposite effect on me.

    Pretty sure that's not what they want.

    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
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