It's disappointing that the gap is closing between stam and magika in terms of damage, it's even more disappointing that the new trials favor magika. Pretty soon we will go back to being the elder staves online because if magika can pull as much as stamina, you take magika because better survivability
Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.
Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.
JPcrazysquirrel3 wrote: »¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Well, I mean, Zos did nerf Acuity into oblivion, so a new set that would work for both mag and stam had to come from somewhere.
SevenPacer wrote: »Seeing people use the set on every single build including Magicka based ones -which is okay, the game itself pushes you to use whatever you want- is now frustrating. Dozens of people are hitting ~50k on their magblades using the perfected version combined with Siroria.
When I first tried it on PTS, I was happy to recieve another set other than War Machine as a stamina player but with every PTS patch, it just became stronger and stronger and now it's considered pretty much BiS for every single class. I don't want to sound selfish here and ask you guys to rework it so that it is usable for stamina players only, you just need to adjust the damage output this set is doing to balance the differences between sets as Relequen itself is giving at least 5k dps.
Example:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BlrDkTGcBQkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlrDkTGcBQk
Another thing is the current bug players are having. If there is more than one person using the perfected version in the group, the set's dps is somehow lowered. However, if there are 2 players; 1 with non-perfected 1 with perfected, it works just fine. I am not sure if this was intended.
I hope they don't end up nerfing it for stam because mag was using it in ways it wasn't intended.
Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.
Is it HM or just vet for perfected pieces? Sorry - been too busy IRL to keep up with where perfected drops.
If HM only people already very top end players who would not actually need it will have it before it is nerfed anyway
EDIT: NM the bonus for perfected is only more stam anyway. So gear from normal will be accessible.
Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.
SevenPacer wrote: »Seeing people use the set on every single build including Magicka based ones -which is okay, the game itself pushes you to use whatever you want- is now frustrating. Dozens of people are hitting ~50k on their magblades using the perfected version combined with Siroria.
When I first tried it on PTS, I was happy to recieve another set other than War Machine as a stamina player but with every PTS patch, it just became stronger and stronger and now it's considered pretty much BiS for every single class. I don't want to sound selfish here and ask you guys to rework it so that it is usable for stamina players only, you just need to adjust the damage output this set is doing to balance the differences between sets as Relequen itself is giving at least 5k dps.
Example:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BlrDkTGcBQkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlrDkTGcBQk
Another thing is the current bug players are having. If there is more than one person using the perfected version in the group, the set's dps is somehow lowered. However, if there are 2 players; 1 with non-perfected 1 with perfected, it works just fine. I am not sure if this was intended.
Is it HM or just vet for perfected pieces? Sorry - been too busy IRL to keep up with where perfected drops.
If HM only people already very top end players who would not actually need it will have it before it is nerfed anyway
JPcrazysquirrel3 wrote: »
Is it HM or just vet for perfected pieces? Sorry - been too busy IRL to keep up with where perfected drops.
If HM only people already very top end players who would not actually need it will have it before it is nerfed anyway
EDIT: NM the bonus for perfected is only more stam anyway. So gear from normal will be accessible.
The perfected can be acquired from just vet, Alcast seemed to believe on another thread.
I hope it gets nerfed. I'm sick of Stam being carried by sets in order to compete with the naturally powerful magicka specs. Before this it was the group synergy of NMG and SF. Before that it was Maelstrom daggers. I would just like stamina to be naturally powerful for once rather than get carried by some gimmick.
I hope it gets nerfed. I'm sick of Stam being carried by sets in order to compete with the naturally powerful magicka specs. Before this it was the group synergy of NMG and SF. Before that it was Maelstrom daggers. I would just like stamina to be naturally powerful for once rather than get carried by some gimmick.
Than it ends that nobody is taking us - the stamina players - in raids anymore, because... oh wait you don't do damage and you can die more easy in "things".
If Stamina would be not comparable - even when it's with a specific set - you would always take only Magicka players with you. MagShield OP.
And Summerset is a great update for Magplayers, more LA-DMG, staff-2-bonus, psijic-skilline with Minor Force as a skill instead of Beasttrap.
Relequen doesn't need a nerf, the players needs a nerf. If you have a "good" player, the set does 5k DPS. If you have a "bad" player, the set does 1.2-3k DPS.
@ZOS_GinaBruno are you aware of this Situation?
SevenPacer wrote: »Seeing people use the set on every single build including Magicka based ones -which is okay, the game itself pushes you to use whatever you want- is now frustrating. Dozens of people are hitting ~50k on their magblades using the perfected version combined with Siroria.
When I first tried it on PTS, I was happy to recieve another set other than War Machine as a stamina player but with every PTS patch, it just became stronger and stronger and now it's considered pretty much BiS for every single class. I don't want to sound selfish here and ask you guys to rework it so that it is usable for stamina players only, you just need to adjust the damage output this set is doing to balance the differences between sets as Relequen itself is giving at least 5k dps.
Example:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BlrDkTGcBQkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlrDkTGcBQk
Another thing is the current bug players are having. If there is more than one person using the perfected version in the group, the set's dps is somehow lowered. However, if there are 2 players; 1 with non-perfected 1 with perfected, it works just fine. I am not sure if this was intended.
Is it HM or just vet for perfected pieces? Sorry - been too busy IRL to keep up with where perfected drops.
If HM only people already very top end players who would not actually need it will have it before it is nerfed anywayJPcrazysquirrel3 wrote: »
Is it HM or just vet for perfected pieces? Sorry - been too busy IRL to keep up with where perfected drops.
If HM only people already very top end players who would not actually need it will have it before it is nerfed anyway
EDIT: NM the bonus for perfected is only more stam anyway. So gear from normal will be accessible.
The perfected can be acquired from just vet, Alcast seemed to believe on another thread.
I edited. Can see your point really.
SevenPacer wrote: »I hope it gets nerfed. I'm sick of Stam being carried by sets in order to compete with the naturally powerful magicka specs. Before this it was the group synergy of NMG and SF. Before that it was Maelstrom daggers. I would just like stamina to be naturally powerful for once rather than get carried by some gimmick.
Than it ends that nobody is taking us - the stamina players - in raids anymore, because... oh wait you don't do damage and you can die more easy in "things".
If Stamina would be not comparable - even when it's with a specific set - you would always take only Magicka players with you. MagShield OP.
And Summerset is a great update for Magplayers, more LA-DMG, staff-2-bonus, psijic-skilline with Minor Force as a skill instead of Beasttrap.
Relequen doesn't need a nerf, the players needs a nerf. If you have a "good" player, the set does 5k DPS. If you have a "bad" player, the set does 1.2-3k DPS.
Gotta disagree with that. The set requires you to light or heavy attack only to reach its top dps outcome and as far as I know, even mediocre players can do a light attack in between skills.
And getting this set requires you to complete veteran Cloudrest... which makes you an above average player again as well...
Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.
SevenPacer wrote: »Extra bit of stamina like a 1000? That's a lot when you are playing for the end game and min/max matters to you.
Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.
Sigh, just get the set quit qq ing please it breaks my immersion. ZOS has never adjusted, it bams straight from BIS to garbage.
Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.
JPcrazysquirrel3 wrote: »I play end game, but couldn't really care less. If you have good sustain, what's it matter to have an extra bit of max resources?
Good sustain keeps the damage coming.JPcrazysquirrel3 wrote: »I play end game, but couldn't really care less. If you have good sustain, what's it matter to have an extra bit of max resources?
Mmmh… more damage ?
Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.
JPcrazysquirrel3 wrote: »Good sustain keeps the damage coming.JPcrazysquirrel3 wrote: »I play end game, but couldn't really care less. If you have good sustain, what's it matter to have an extra bit of max resources?
Mmmh… more damage ?
Gallagher563 wrote: »I wished from the beginning that they just added weapon damage instead of proc damage. If they made it deal the same damage as the magicka set it would be fine and would not be run on magicka characters.