Ridiculous amount of vAS +2 glitchers rising on the xbox eu server.

Tostiee

ClockworkCityBugs wrote: »

pls post a detailed explanation HOWTO
only this way you will stop exploit
by make it public

@DPShiro has already messaged ZOS about it in detail they know how it works, they are investigating it. By making a detailed explanation public it will only allow more people to glitch the skin instead of stop it.

DPShiro

Tostiee wrote: »

ClockworkCityBugs wrote: »

pls post a detailed explanation HOWTO
only this way you will stop exploit
by make it public

@DPShiro has already messaged ZOS about it in detail they know how it works, they are investigating it. By making a detailed explanation public it will only allow more people to glitch the skin instead of stop it.

Yeah I have, several times but response have been very thin and lackluster.

There needs to be an official statement like last time about this already!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Shad0wfire99

Astrid_V wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Some even suggest to get as many friends to do it a possible because if enough people do it there can't be a ban.

That's exactly what first Asylum exploiters were thinking

Ten bucks says it's the same exploiters as the first time. On one of their many purchased accounts. Ten more bucks says there's a guild bank full of gold somewhere, too.

N0TPLAYER2

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Doesn't it take like 4hrs to snipe down the boss?

Sad thing is, those morons probably spent more time looking for a glitch, than it takes other players to progress through HM. They should still get banned though, exploiting some of the hardest content in game is not acceptable.

Doubt it. I takes some groups months to progress through these trials.

shadowwraith666 wrote: »

There is a clear way they could have avoid this...l make the skin bind to account on pickup as a lot of f2p games do.

also i wouldnt exactly call using the environment to your advantage an exploit, most games encourage that... except eso

Haha did you even read the thread? Or ever gotten a skin?? It binds to your account the send it unlocks. The only thing sellable is the polymorph that drops, not skins.

EL3ZD33

Proof of bans? I’ve lost a lot of faith in Zos, someone saying there has been bans isn’t me seeing the legions of silver skinned cheeses banned.

jerj6925

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

jerj6925 wrote: »

Tostiee wrote: »

So in the last few weeks more and more people have been glitching the vAS +2 skin and its getting to the point more glitchers have the skin then people who have put the effort in and got it legit. The glitch has been first reported about 2/3 weeks ago, with all the players who have been spotted with the skin that way ever since its been known but so far all we know is that zos is "Investigating" it but we have not heard anything for 2/3 weeks and its just geting upsetting and demotivating at this point.

At this point I felt the need to make this public and get more awereness about the issue, guilds are getting fed up seeing all these people getting the skin this way while others have progressed it for weeks/months etc.

What is the status? When is this going to be fixed? What is going to happen with the players who have glitched the trial/skin? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Finn

Its a freaking game not real life... honestly how is this hurting you at all? I would rather Zenimax focus resources on fixing Lag and nerfing the holy hell out of Night blades and a moderate gutting of sorcs.

Is it really that hard to understand that those are two different problems, signed to two different teams? In the real world, believe it or not, business can focus on two different things without compromising one or the other. Wow, I know, right!

And about drawing the line for exploits. Yeah any exploit is against tos, but we don't sentence people to death for not paying a parking ticket. Any exploit does not warrant the same penalty. Intentionally bugging achievements and then selling that exploit for profit is not the same as standing on a rock to make a boss easier -- which actually makes the fight much slower and barely makes it easier to begin with since you just stand behind that boss and ignore everything anyway.

So you are telling me you know they have teams for each

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

jerj6925 wrote: »

Tostiee wrote: »

So in the last few weeks more and more people have been glitching the vAS +2 skin and its getting to the point more glitchers have the skin then people who have put the effort in and got it legit. The glitch has been first reported about 2/3 weeks ago, with all the players who have been spotted with the skin that way ever since its been known but so far all we know is that zos is "Investigating" it but we have not heard anything for 2/3 weeks and its just geting upsetting and demotivating at this point.

At this point I felt the need to make this public and get more awereness about the issue, guilds are getting fed up seeing all these people getting the skin this way while others have progressed it for weeks/months etc.

What is the status? When is this going to be fixed? What is going to happen with the players who have glitched the trial/skin? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Finn

Its a freaking game not real life... honestly how is this hurting you at all? I would rather Zenimax focus resources on fixing Lag and nerfing the holy hell out of Night blades and a moderate gutting of sorcs.

Is it really that hard to understand that those are two different problems, signed to two different teams? In the real world, believe it or not, business can focus on two different things without compromising one or the other. Wow, I know, right!

And about drawing the line for exploits. Yeah any exploit is against tos, but we don't sentence people to death for not paying a parking ticket. Any exploit does not warrant the same penalty. Intentionally bugging achievements and then selling that exploit for profit is not the same as standing on a rock to make a boss easier -- which actually makes the fight much slower and barely makes it easier to begin with since you just stand behind that boss and ignore everything anyway.

So you know zenimax has a separate team or each problem? curious to know how you know this... or are you just making that up? Now just for the sake of the discussion lets say you are right and there is a team assigned to the lag issue... they should be fired and the team working on stupid things like cheese for skins should be given a shot at fixing the lag before firing them.

KingMagaw

Every leader board and achievement in ESO has been exploited because of the lack of commitment and transparency from ZOS.

ESO is not competitive and i think maybe your treating it so

Cubagaming

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Astrid_V wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Some even suggest to get as many friends to do it a possible because if enough people do it there can't be a ban.

That's exactly what first Asylum exploiters were thinking

Ten bucks says it's the same exploiters as the first time. On one of their many purchased accounts. Ten more bucks says there's a guild bank full of gold somewhere, too.

I can guarantee ya and put money that the players on PS4 that were permabanned are not doing this.

Feanor

ClockworkCityBugs wrote: »

pls post a detailed explanation HOWTO
only this way you will stop exploit
by make it public

You’re stopping an exploit by telling everyone how to do it? That’s like announcing the bank’s guards take a break from 9 am to 9.30 am and the combination for the vault is 9-5-3-8-7-2-2 while maintaining that breaking the bank of course is forbidden.

starkerealm

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

jerj6925 wrote: »

Tostiee wrote: »

So in the last few weeks more and more people have been glitching the vAS +2 skin and its getting to the point more glitchers have the skin then people who have put the effort in and got it legit. The glitch has been first reported about 2/3 weeks ago, with all the players who have been spotted with the skin that way ever since its been known but so far all we know is that zos is "Investigating" it but we have not heard anything for 2/3 weeks and its just geting upsetting and demotivating at this point.

At this point I felt the need to make this public and get more awereness about the issue, guilds are getting fed up seeing all these people getting the skin this way while others have progressed it for weeks/months etc.

What is the status? When is this going to be fixed? What is going to happen with the players who have glitched the trial/skin? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Finn

Its a freaking game not real life... honestly how is this hurting you at all? I would rather Zenimax focus resources on fixing Lag and nerfing the holy hell out of Night blades and a moderate gutting of sorcs.

Is it really that hard to understand that those are two different problems, signed to two different teams? In the real world, believe it or not, business can focus on two different things without compromising one or the other. Wow, I know, right!

And about drawing the line for exploits. Yeah any exploit is against tos, but we don't sentence people to death for not paying a parking ticket. Any exploit does not warrant the same penalty. Intentionally bugging achievements and then selling that exploit for profit is not the same as standing on a rock to make a boss easier -- which actually makes the fight much slower and barely makes it easier to begin with since you just stand behind that boss and ignore everything anyway.

Except, of course, a ban isn't a death sentence. The player who got banned isn't hunted down and executed, they just aren't permitted to play the game anymore. So it's more like having your license suspended for failing to pay a ticket... which, oh, wait, yeah, that actually can happen.

zaria

mb10 wrote: »

How can you even ban people who do this?

How is it possible to detect someone has done this glitch?

Pretty easy depending on how much is logged, it only skill used to kill boss is snipe its an very obvious one

And the easiest fix is just to disable the HM achievements and rewards until fixed for real.
An even easier fix is to simply add an dot everywhere outside the boss room once to door is closed assuming the still fight outside the room

DPShiro

This should be handled like last time, it’s literally the same scenario.

Apache_Kid

zaria wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

How can you even ban people who do this?

How is it possible to detect someone has done this glitch?

Pretty easy depending on how much is logged, it only skill used to kill boss is snipe its an very obvious one

And the easiest fix is just to disable the HM achievements and rewards until fixed for real.
An even easier fix is to simply add an dot everywhere outside the boss room once to door is closed assuming the still fight outside the room

Or you know, they could just like add in an invisible wall like what should've been done the first day this was reported and not harm any groups or guilds currently progressing it for real and making them un-able to claim their reward upon a completion...

Cpt_Teemo

Apache_Kid wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

How can you even ban people who do this?

How is it possible to detect someone has done this glitch?

Pretty easy depending on how much is logged, it only skill used to kill boss is snipe its an very obvious one

And the easiest fix is just to disable the HM achievements and rewards until fixed for real.
An even easier fix is to simply add an dot everywhere outside the boss room once to door is closed assuming the still fight outside the room

Or you know, they could just like add in an invisible wall like what should've been done the first day this was reported and not harm any groups or guilds currently progressing it for real and making them un-able to claim their reward upon a completion...

Yeah going to be hard to sort the legits from the cheesers.

Apache_Kid

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

How can you even ban people who do this?

How is it possible to detect someone has done this glitch?

Pretty easy depending on how much is logged, it only skill used to kill boss is snipe its an very obvious one

And the easiest fix is just to disable the HM achievements and rewards until fixed for real.
An even easier fix is to simply add an dot everywhere outside the boss room once to door is closed assuming the still fight outside the room

Or you know, they could just like add in an invisible wall like what should've been done the first day this was reported and not harm any groups or guilds currently progressing it for real and making them un-able to claim their reward upon a completion...

Yeah going to be hard to sort the legits from the cheesers.

Will it though? Doesn't ZoS get data from all of the clears?

I mean, I don't really know how this works but i assume that they can go back and see everyone on the server who has a skin and then run a search that filters out the clears based on time-ran or abilities used? (snipe & caltrops spam etc.) Everything we do is archived for at least a period of time yeah?

DPShiro

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

How can you even ban people who do this?

How is it possible to detect someone has done this glitch?

Pretty easy depending on how much is logged, it only skill used to kill boss is snipe its an very obvious one

And the easiest fix is just to disable the HM achievements and rewards until fixed for real.
An even easier fix is to simply add an dot everywhere outside the boss room once to door is closed assuming the still fight outside the room

Or you know, they could just like add in an invisible wall like what should've been done the first day this was reported and not harm any groups or guilds currently progressing it for real and making them un-able to claim their reward upon a completion...

Yeah going to be hard to sort the legits from the cheesers.

It’s not, when glitching it you don get a score at all.

XiDiabolismiX

I’m pretty sure it is, yeah. Any button or key you’ve ever pressed in game, I’m almost positive they can look up the data on it somehow. It’s just the matter of if they want to or not.

DPShiro

This is still spreading by the day, and last weekend we had a lot of glicthers doing this, and I assume this weekend will be the same.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

What’s happening??

BuddyAces

Tostiee wrote: »

ClockworkCityBugs wrote: »

pls post a detailed explanation HOWTO
only this way you will stop exploit
by make it public

@DPShiro has already messaged ZOS about it in detail they know how it works, they are investigating it. By making a detailed explanation public it will only allow more people to glitch the skin instead of stop it.

I love how people on the internet are always "don't post it and let others know" when it takes a whole big minute to YouTube or Google stuff like this. Posting how might get one idiot to do it but that's his account that will disappear.

Don't mean to harp on ya or anything man, but this is the interwebs.

DPShiro

Needs fixing and official statement

klowdy1

DanteYoda wrote: »

Jameliel wrote: »

I disagree with calling it an exploit. If someone discovers a safe spot in the environment to attack from, more power to them. I call it fun for them if they enjoy it. People crying about someone else spending their time how they enjoy is weak. Perma-banning someone over it is even more ridiculous. Their loss of $$ though. Doubt the people banned will care longer than a day or so. If we only spent a small fraction of the time judging ourselves that we spent judging others....imagine that. Always some selfish whiny reasoning behind everything. But but but but I...me me me me..I I I....

You are suppose to report it immediately and not exploit it and not tell all your friends how to do it.. These games have a lot of issues where devs missed stuff players find, the exploit is when they continually abuse it secretly afterwards just for loot gains..

It very much does deserve outright bans.

That's because of poor testing, and a lack of pride in their game. Maybe the devs care, but the people that own the game don't seem to, and the devs can only do so much when pushed. As long as it isn't bad for business, it doesn't matter to the suits.

C4Bliss

So this is the reason I see so many silver surfers on xbox eu recently

KerinKor

DPShiro wrote: »

Good post, completely agree!

but this is game breaking

Sorry, hyperbole doesn't add to an argument, a 'skin' cannot be 'game breaking'!

DPShiro

KerinKor wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Good post, completely agree!

but this is game breaking

Sorry, hyperbole doesn't add to an argument, a 'skin' cannot be 'game breaking'!

This situation is breaking the game

ATomiX96

zos doesnt care anyways as long as you cant exploit crown store or other with real life paid content :^)

DoctorESO

Feanor wrote: »

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

Mureel wrote: »

And then turn around and LESSEN those rewards themselves by providing carries xD

I have all but VAS2 skin and I don't wear them, and I prefer Librarian & Volunteer titles *shrugs*

VMOL skin means nothing anymore, vhof skin means more imo, than vas2 given the exploiting, so yeah nevermind skins really.

True, selling trial skins is a bit shady, but I suppose these carries are not cheap? I wonder how much do they cost, because I never asked and never saw it advertised in the zone chat. My guess would be, 2-3mil(which is reasonable price). If so, probably around the same percent of players can afford it as the number of players who can finish it. Maybe it devalues the bragging rights a bit, but not a skin itself.

Depends on the trial. vDSA runs are going for 500k or so, and everything from vMoL onwards is above 2 million gold. Some guilds also charge extra for the dropped gear.

People are selling vDSA runs? LOL! What a waste of money.

scrobey

People literally trying to sell silver skin in zone, no chill.

DoctorESO

LOL at people wearing the silver skin they bought as if trying to showcase their false skill. That's like buying an Olympic gold medal and wearing it around your neck in public, or buying a black belt and wearing it around your waist in public.

AbysmalGhul

DoctorESO wrote: »

LOL at people wearing the silver skin they bought as if trying to showcase their false skill. That's like buying an Olympic gold medal and wearing it around your neck in public, or buying a black belt and wearing it around your waist in public.

*Wonders who wears black belts and gold medals in public anyways?

Nightfall12

If they can figure out who to ban than they could do the following...

take away the skin from everyone that cheated it.

GIVE IT TO EVERYONE ELSE free. Award a title to the people that actually earned it.

Make the reward for such content something of value to the person that completes it, so the can sell that reward rather than get paid to carry people through it. Its these 1 time rewards for completion that are whats driving this, because they want to make $$ off this they have to find a way to get a completely unskilled toon through it. If instead of a binding skin there was a trade-able Mega Box they wouldn't need to find a glitch to make easy carries, they could just sell the reward.

I understand that for many that skin is something that they are proud to have earned and don't want to see it diminished, but that sort of reward is begetting this bad behavior.