you now need 80 gold tempering alloy to upgrade a single piece of heavy armor!

Wing

did that grab your attention?

jewelry crafting requires 10x the materiels to upgrade as normal crafting

effectively imagine needing 10 of the current gold tempers to make 1 "actual" gold temper, then needing 8 of those to make a single piece of armor gold.


this has nothing to do with maxing out the skill line or researching traits. this is about how much it will cost to craft any jewelry ever. that title is accurate if the same concept were added to the other crafts. it would take 80 gold mats per piece of armor.

its 10 times the grind.

and yes it warranted another thread.

Rawkan

Well it is jewelry, it's not cheap.

Cryptical

So the moneymaker is going to be jewelry mats.

AlnilamE

And you need 90 Malachite shards to craft a set of Glass Armor!

Aebaradath

Wing wrote: »

did that grab your attention?

Nerf MagDens, got it.

Wait, what were you talking about?

Jhalin

AlnilamE wrote: »

And you need 90 Malachite shards to craft a set of Glass Armor!

For something that’s literally just an aesthetic change for armor, that’s not really comparable, now is it?

Merlin13KAGL

There's already an extensive thread on this.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/411091/jewelry-crafting-get-ready-for-the-worst-grind-in-esos-history

Putting a *** and blatantly false thread title to get clicks does nothing to help the situation.

Shadowstale

Great, I just happen to have 80 gold tempers.

But seriously, this is getting old.

Charliff1966

Nothing wrong with the system

jedtb16_ESO

this is not news...

Jhalin

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

There's already an extensive thread on this.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/411091/jewelry-crafting-get-ready-for-the-worst-grind-in-esos-history

Putting a *** and blatantly false thread title to get clicks does nothing to help the situation.

Which they moved to Crafting, where almost no one looks so the thread will be lost and unnoticed.

It is absolutely necessary the players make it known how unappealing and unreasonable the current iteration of jewelry crafting is. If it goes to live like this, the only players who’ll like it are the bots.

Colecovision

They obviously wanted to sell us jewelry crafting without actually giving it to us. Crown crate mentality on a large scale. At some point someone remembered that people might not feel the need to farm gear if they can make and upgrade jewelry. So they hit the panic button and pulled the plug on the mats.

The fact that the nodes are way less common seems lost on people who think it’s a “grind” situation. Also, what’s the point? A hundings necklace? Are there two crafted sets to pair to make this even worth a grind? You already get one.

kargen27

No it didn't warrant another thread but here we are. I don't think I am going to mind the "grind" all that much considering what I get in return. You also have to take into account three pieces of jewelry compared to seven pieces of armor and maybe four weapons.
I'm not sure why people were expecting jewelry crafting to be a cake walk. It can make a significant change to builds and being able to obtain it should reflect that. Other than the vendor each weekend gold jewelry has always been a premium and harder to get than armor pieces in game. I see no reason for that to change now.

craigr02

I made a post on jewelery, which got moved to crafting too, be careful though, Zos might delete this and send you a warning for making an untrue claim and creating a conspiracy, which is in their forum rules.

Conspiracy Theories and Misinformation: We do not tolerate the deliberate and malicious spreading of false info or conspiracy theories about ZeniMax Online Studios, its game(s), or its employees. This does not include honest mistakes; rather, this rule pertains to those who go out of their way to spread harmful or malicious rumors about ZeniMax Online Studios and its employees, or The Elder Scrolls Online.

Sergykid

what if they will drop 10x more often?

AlnilamE

Jhalin wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

And you need 90 Malachite shards to craft a set of Glass Armor!

For something that’s literally just an aesthetic change for armor, that’s not really comparable, now is it?

Have you tried getting 90 Malachite shards in one go?

Seriously, we will need to improve 3 pieces of jewelry. The sky is not falling.

Apherius

Yeah but the difference between purple and gold is very big ... wait .... not it's not.

EvilCroc

I think ZOS should make it reality.
Gold armor should be rare and expensive, not for everyone.
Same as jewelry.

DuskMarine

Wing wrote: »

did that grab your attention?

jewelry crafting requires 10x the materiels to upgrade as normal crafting

effectively imagine needing 10 of the current gold tempers to make 1 "actual" gold temper, then needing 8 of those to make a single piece of armor gold.


this has nothing to do with maxing out the skill line or researching traits. this is about how much it will cost to craft any jewelry ever. that title is accurate if the same concept were added to the other crafts. it would take 80 gold mats per piece of armor.

its 10 times the grind.

and yes it warranted another thread.

i dont find a problem with this at all

Charliff1966

Jhalin wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

There's already an extensive thread on this.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/411091/jewelry-crafting-get-ready-for-the-worst-grind-in-esos-history

Putting a *** and blatantly false thread title to get clicks does nothing to help the situation.

Which they moved to Crafting, where almost no one looks so the thread will be lost and unnoticed.

It is absolutely necessary the players make it known how unappealing and unreasonable the current iteration of jewelry crafting is. If it goes to live like this, the only players who’ll like it are the bots.

And this one either moves to crafting or gets closed with a reminder of the thread in crafting. Swamping the forum doesnt help your cause.

Merlin13KAGL

Jhalin wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

There's already an extensive thread on this.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/411091/jewelry-crafting-get-ready-for-the-worst-grind-in-esos-history

Putting a *** and blatantly false thread title to get clicks does nothing to help the situation.

Which they moved to Crafting, where almost no one looks so the thread will be lost and unnoticed.

It is absolutely necessary the players make it known how unappealing and unreasonable the current iteration of jewelry crafting is. If it goes to live like this, the only players who’ll like it are the bots.

Guess I missed the part where you reference the link to that thread in the OP of your ***, false titled clickbait thread.

I'm sure you could have come up with something more appropriate that would have had no issue staying in general chat, but that was never your real intention anyway, was it?

You immediately discredit yourself the moment someone realizes your title is fake and has nothing to do with the OP.

Most will stop at "did that grab your attention?"

You're the forum version of clickbait adds on any given website on any given day.

Only reason I made it down this far is because it pisses me off when people waste other peoples' time.

It is absolutely necessary the players make it known

And for the record, your thread absolutely doesn't achieve that.

DuskMarine

Jhalin wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

There's already an extensive thread on this.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/411091/jewelry-crafting-get-ready-for-the-worst-grind-in-esos-history

Putting a *** and blatantly false thread title to get clicks does nothing to help the situation.

Which they moved to Crafting, where almost no one looks so the thread will be lost and unnoticed.

It is absolutely necessary the players make it known how unappealing and unreasonable the current iteration of jewelry crafting is. If it goes to live like this, the only players who’ll like it are the bots.

a farmer wont find it unappealing at all. i like this actually cause i can make money as well as better gear.

madchuska83

I'll just keep gold Infal and VO on my toons.

eso_nya

Apherius wrote: »

Yeah but the difference between purple and gold is very big ... wait .... not it's not.

Thats kinda the point. Its super expensive/timeconsuming and completely pointless at the same time.
It will be cheaper and month faster to pay a merc guild to carry u thru vtrials until u get a golden set of jewelry. Of a set thats even better than any crafted set.

Its far more efficient to grind dolmens for a couple hours and go w/ jewelry + 2x armor of a zoneset plus weapons + 3x armor of a crafted set. (well thats since ot and wont change any time soon)

U can research a different trait on a different alt for having all traits available for transmute on day 1. Dont even need a research time scroll. You can later on when u actually managed to max out the line and during that time finished researching 6 traits on a single char (w/o any boost) craft e.g. hundings rings w/o trait, and transmute them.

Whats the point of putting the research items and trait dusts into various activities of the game, when u only need a single item once?
Whats the point of putting in master writs that r not worth the time to type DESTROY?
Whats the point of an extremely grindy and timeconsuming chase for golden upgrade mats when the difference between purp and gold is not noticeable?

I'll go with: "Its pointless, but on the bright side i wont have to bother it." I would have prefered to get a system where i say "This is awesome." Thus i'm not happy.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Misleading clickbait, nothing new here. News Flash: Jewelry crafting is grindy!

flguy147ub17_ESO

Wait a minute. Is it 80 gold tempers for only jewelry? Or will it now be 80 gold tempers to upgrade one piece of heavy armor?

adriant1978

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Wait a minute. Is it 80 gold tempers for only jewelry? Or will it now be 80 gold tempers to upgrade one piece of heavy armor?

If they could have a do over of the whole crafting system, you can bet it would be 10x everything.

DuskMarine

adriant1978 wrote: »

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Wait a minute. Is it 80 gold tempers for only jewelry? Or will it now be 80 gold tempers to upgrade one piece of heavy armor?

If they could have a do over of the whole crafting system, you can bet it would be 10x everything.

it might help the market on the tempers if they did cause their worth dirt right now

phileunderx2

When v 16 happened. The amount of mats needed to craft v16 gear jumped from 15 to 160. We didn't die. We didn't like it but we managed. Same will happen for jewelry.

Facefister

Wasn't the point of Jewelcrafting to be able to have diverse sets? I mean, why should I farm weeks for purple hundings jewelry? That entire grind kills the point and I can't see any reason to level Jewelry crafting since it's faster to get gold Jewelry from vAA runs. Farming weeks, maybe months for gold Hundings, Spriggan or even War-Machine isn't worth it.

hydrocynus

Wing wrote: »

did that grab your attention?

jewelry crafting requires 10x the materiels to upgrade as normal crafting

effectively imagine needing 10 of the current gold tempers to make 1 "actual" gold temper, then needing 8 of those to make a single piece of armor gold.


this has nothing to do with maxing out the skill line or researching traits. this is about how much it will cost to craft any jewelry ever. that title is accurate if the same concept were added to the other crafts. it would take 80 gold mats per piece of armor.

its 10 times the grind.

and yes it warranted another thread.

You didn't think it would be easy did you?