Remove Major Defile and Decrease all Healing by 30%

IAVITNI · May 2018

Major Defile currently has 100% uptime on majority of builds that run it, and most builds are fitting in Major Defile into their load out. Allow us to free up a skill slot and just decrease all healing by 30% if uptime is meant to be 100%.

Waffennacht · May 2018

Major defile is only 30% in no CP

Also... No?

Schattenfluegel · May 2018

For PvE, no..

Osubaker33 · May 2018

Ummm no

Twohothardware · May 2018

Major Defile just needs to be nerfed to 15% and Minor Defile to 5%. Or just remove Defile from main attacks like Lethal Arrow and Incap Strike.

Stibbons · May 2018

-30% on all healing? Are you insane? No way in pvp and pve.

Integral1900 · May 2018

On behalf of pve... no way in hell

Taleof2Cities · May 2018

Definitely no.

By the way you can run defile in ways other than slotting it as a skill.

Aliyavana · May 2018

Idgaf about PvP so no

Feanor · May 2018

Actually decreasing healing for PvE wouldn’t be a bad thing. Only the very hardest content requires actual healing at all. We have been long at the point that good healing isn’t about healing but about how many buffs are provided to the group. Most healing in PvE is overhealing.

So yes, reducing the strength of defiles and adjusting healing accordingly would be a good thing for both game modes.

Stibbons · May 2018

Feanor wrote: »

Actually decreasing healing for PvE wouldn’t be a bad thing. Only the very hardest content requires actual healing at all. We have been long at the point that good healing isn’t about healing but about how many buffs are provided to the group. Most healing in PvE is overhealing.

So yes, reducing the strength of defiles and adjusting healing accordingly would be a good thing for both game modes.

Yeah healers plaque wvw, pve content, bgs and duels

You must be joking.

Vapirko · May 2018

Aliyavana wrote: »

Idgaf about PvP so no

Oh beleive you me, this is an awful idea for PvP lol. Adjust defile? Absolutely. Nerf healing? No...

Merlin13KAGL · May 2018

IAVITNI wrote: »

Almost any buff/debuffMajor Defile currently has 100% uptime on majority of builds that run it, and most builds are fitting in Major Defile into their load out. Allow us to free up a skill slot and just decrease all healing by 30% if uptime is meant to be 100%.

Major Defile currently has 0% uptime on majority of builds that don't run it

Fixed it for you.

Short sighted much?

Skoomah · May 2018

No, only if shield strength is reduced by 30% too.

Merlin13KAGL · May 2018

Skoomah wrote: »

No, only if shield strength is reduced by 30% too.

And...this is now a nerf Sorc thread.

Fruity_Ninja · May 2018

Skoomah wrote: »

No, only if shield strength is reduced by 30% too.

And damage, especially next patch!

Soris · May 2018

This has been done in Imperial City patch for pvp via battle spirit and almost 30% of builds including all hybrids became useless.

So no.

Sparr0w · May 2018

WhY DonT wE JuST STop alL healING iN geNErAL

DeadlyRecluse · May 2018

Reduce everything by 30 percent!

ezeepeezee · May 2018

Feanor wrote: »

Actually decreasing healing for PvE wouldn’t be a bad thing. Only the very hardest content requires actual healing at all. We have been long at the point that good healing isn’t about healing but about how many buffs are provided to the group. Most healing in PvE is overhealing.

So yes, reducing the strength of defiles and adjusting healing accordingly would be a good thing for both game modes.

I have to agree here. Healing is ridiculously easy. I hate healing because I feel like I'm doing a chore when I'm the one that has to hop on my healer for whatever I'm doing with my friends.

All you do is basically spam healing springs and throw orbs, with a breath of life here and there for spike damage. I don't even worry about getting aggro, I just stand there and heal while the mobs wail on me. My healer has like 30k BoL crits or some nonsense, and my group has practically zero chance of dying while I have orbs/springs up unless they get mechanic'd.

I personally think people should have to provide a greater percentage of their own healing. If there's any hope of the power creep of extreme DPS being slowed (other than, of course, altering CP), it has to be by forcing players to rearrange their gear, bar setups or both. The ideal group has a DPS with no heals, a tank that can self-heal, and a healer that buffs the group. That's all good and well, except that there are so many other ways to build characters that it just feels stifling.

I would personally love to see a healing reduction. I'd love to see fewer DPS in trials - more need for more tanks and more healers. If we're being fair to all players, shouldn't trial teams ideally be balanced this way? I'd also love to see more team play in Cyrodiil. Watching people get cut down because they charged into a fight without a team, without support, might make the point clearer that team work is required to win. There is a reason the ball groups of Cyrodiil run around in divines gear with sheer damage and healing builds though - if you stand in a healing springs from a full healing spec'd player, you probably won't get bursted down unless the person hitting you blows most or all of their resources doing it, at which point they become fodder for the rest of your group anyway.

I digressed there a bit, but I hope I'm making my point clear. Healing is far too potent and far too easy. Good players in PVE don't worry about healing at all, and good players in Cyro can heal through all but the consistent application of both major/minor defile, assuming they didn't disadvantage themselves with poor positioning.

technohic · May 2018

No. Its just easier to just say no.

Murador178 · May 2018

From a PvP perspective damage gets increased alot in the upcoming patch ---> so just NO

Skoomah · May 2018

Decrease shields by 30%!

Decrease cloaking by 30%!

Ragnaroek93 · May 2018

Nerf all heal builds by straight 30%. How about no?

Mureel · May 2018

IAVITNI wrote: »

Major Defile currently has 100% uptime on majority of builds that run it, and most builds are fitting in Major Defile into their load out. Allow us to free up a skill slot and just decrease all healing by 30% if uptime is meant to be 100%.

Just no. Both pvp and pve.

NBrookus · May 2018

Because DKs and Templars need another nerf?

Befoul and the addition of defile on basically spammable skills like Arrow and Incap is the issue.

Checkmath · May 2018

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Reduce everything by 30 percent!

nah only lags should be reduced by 30%....and maybe loadscreens

danno8 · May 2018

So Templars, the class that relies on healing as it's primary defense more than any other class, should get it's healing reduced by 30%?

Silver_Strider · May 2018

NERF ALL THE HEALS!!!!!
I mean, it's not like there's a set that rewards you for over healing....

....oh wait.

danno8 wrote: »

So Templars, the class that relies on healing as it's primary defense more than any other class, should get it's healing reduced by 30%?

Be honest to yourself, ZOS constantly nerfs Templars that, if Warden didn't exist, I'm pretty sure Templars would be their redheaded Step Child. Nerfing your heals is exactly what ZOS would do (isn't BoL getting nerfed, AGAIN?)

Inig0 · May 2018

Franieck · May 2018

Absolutely not