Whats "Concealed weapon" good for?

Nestor

Tapio75 wrote: »

Hmm.. Thanks for all the input on this

I guess i need to try this a bit more next time i release my skillpoints to get more for better skills from leveling skills. Seems like it can have interesting uses after all.

I have found that almost every skill in the game can have it's uses. However, for some skills, you have to move past the YOLO/Leroy Jenkins type of play that is so common. A lot of skills need a setup and do not work as well when you just wade in and wail on things.

So, it all depends on your build and how you approach things and whether your solo or group or various forms of PvP.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

with strife being nerfed by the cost being increase to match force shock, it will be the more selfish spammable, it hits harder then strife but will cost the same.

Casul

I love it on my magblade as a mobility tool and as a unreflectable spammable skills. I tend to keep it and swallow soul on my bar together for ranged and CQC abilities.

Currently mine sits at 8k tooltip and with 1.80 crit damage it hits for 14k-15k on crits when fighting overland enemies.

Damage varies in pvp obviously.

ADarklore

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

with strife being nerfed by the cost being increase to match force shock, it will be the more selfish spammable, it hits harder then strife but will cost the same.

If you want to play a 'melee' Nightblade, sure, but most people play magicka Nightblade from range to avoid damage.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

ADarklore wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

with strife being nerfed by the cost being increase to match force shock, it will be the more selfish spammable, it hits harder then strife but will cost the same.

If you want to play a 'melee' Nightblade, sure, but most people play magicka Nightblade from range to avoid damage.

if you want the "max dps" magblade, there is no real reason not to use a melee spammable most of the time.

xKaSx7

GimpyPorcupine wrote: »

Goshua wrote: »

Shadow Dancer used to stack with the vamp passive for insane speed but it's no longer the case.
Anyway, just pointing that out.

I used to stack those in my "Dark Guardian" vamp NB healer build. Oh, fun times, sneaking faster than horses, chasing people down and Soul Assault ganking.

Please explain this to me with more details.. fast catch up to horses?

barshemm

I used it and incap to play my dw mag blade similar to a stam blade. I found it easier to deal with mag dks. Pretty fun combo up in your face melee with Shields and resto ult for oh *** moments. The movement speed in stealth is awesome.

Datthaw

It's a meele magblade skill. I don't know what's not to understand

Undefwun

One of my fav videos of a melee magblade in action demonstrating proper usage of concealed weapon... @NightbladeMechanics

https://youtu.be/ND4FFvKfN0M

GimpyPorcupine

xKaSx7 wrote: »

GimpyPorcupine wrote: »

Goshua wrote: »

Shadow Dancer used to stack with the vamp passive for insane speed but it's no longer the case.
Anyway, just pointing that out.

I used to stack those in my "Dark Guardian" vamp NB healer build. Oh, fun times, sneaking faster than horses, chasing people down and Soul Assault ganking.

Please explain this to me with more details.. fast catch up to horses?

Before it was fixed, the "remove sneak speed" bonuses from Dark Stalker (vampire passive) and armor sets (Shadow Dancer, Night's Silence) would stack. So with both of those bonuses and concealed weapon slotted, sneak speed was actually faster than a horse. It was great for leading groups in Cyrodiil, because you could move unseen in advance of your squad, spot enemies, set up ambushes, etc. But they fixed that a few patches ago, don't remember when.

Lynx7386

Undefwun wrote: »

One of my fav videos of a melee magblade in action demonstrating proper usage of concealed weapon... @NightbladeMechanics

https://youtu.be/ND4FFvKfN0M

Wish I could pull off that in pvp lol

NightbladeMechanics

Thanks for the tag.

Yea, Concealed hits like a truck and is the usual spammable for melee magicka nightblade builds, as seen in my video up there. My Concealed tooltip is almost 14k with a well rounded 1vX build.

Also @Tapio75 , the speed bonus from Concealed stacks with vampirism. Vamp makes it so that crouch sneaking no longer reduces your movement speed. Concealed will increase your movement speed beyond that when crouched, and vamp will increase your movement speed with cloaking around. Vamp does not increase your movement speed while cloaking but not crouching. They are different mechanics.

Hope this helps.

Lynx7386

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Thanks for the tag.

Yea, Concealed hits like a truck and is the usual spammable for melee magicka nightblade builds, as seen in my video up there. My Concealed tooltip is almost 14k with a well rounded 1vX build.

Also @Tapio75 , the speed bonus from Concealed stacks with vampirism. Vamp makes it so that crouch sneaking no longer reduces your movement speed. Concealed will increase your movement speed beyond that when crouched, and vamp will increase your movement speed with cloaking around. Vamp does not increase your movement speed while cloaking but not crouching. They are different mechanics.

Hope this helps.

Mind sharing your build?