Are you happy with the worm cult motif drop rate?

DurzoBlint13

Other

I got Axes in m first coffer.....more than 200 coffers later, I still do not have a second page. That's a bit ridiculous for a limited time motif. That's .5% drop rate, not 5%

Defilted

Should at least drop 1 per day so after the event the style should be learnt

I have only recived 2 out of 50 to 60 boxes. One guy says they are to common.. Not from my perspective.

supaskrub

Should be even rarer

This style is not rare, the drop rate is not bad when used as a metric against other styles that drop. for example from any given style that is dropping from the reward boxes Worm Cult is the most popular (not just for me either) with Silken Ring following it, but with at least a 50% popularity of what Worm Cult is dropping. Granted I open exactly 90 rewards per day so i would say i am heavily invested into the event. I have received since day one around 20 Worm Cult Motifs (sets completed) which is then followed by Silken Ring where I have received around 8 motifs. My case is not special, rng is what it is but they certainly are not rare as even a browse around guild stores will show you that these things are getting listed regularly and bought regularly despite insanely stupid prices that some charge.

The more you participate in the event then the more you will get out of it, it seems like there is a lot of entitlement from people who through no fault of their own either do not have the time to do a high number of daily quests or have the characters at hand to increase rewards received. You get out of it what you put in to it and the rest is down to rng.

There is no problem selling motifs that are not Worm Cult to buy Worm on the market should folks be so desperate to get their hands on it and there are still several days of the event to come. Rewards are not the only way to acquire the set.

Elana

Should at least drop 1 per day so after the event the style should be learnt

The first day I got 3 Worm Cult pages, 2 Armiger pages and a ton of other motifs in around 100 boxes, maybe a bit more.
Since then I haven't gotten a single one of WC or BA and significantly less other motifs, from between 60-75 boxes a day. It is, also, not only my experience, so I believe that somwhere along the way the drop rate got nerfed. Not a very nice move
Anyways, I don't think it should be as common ad Hollowjack but the current drop rate is too low. I don't think I will be able to farm up full set without buying anything, not to mention that I hoped to get two sets, one for my husband who has very little time to play and certainly none to farm daily boxes outside of maybe crafting.
Then again, it is a time exclusive, so perhaps it should be as common as Hollowjack. I hate time exclusives with a passion.

ghastley

Other

I'm basically just doing the crafting writs on seven characters, with a mix of low and high crafting skills. The overall rate of motifs is decent, with about six or seven others for each Worm Cult. Since my crafter character has only just started to hit Master levels, just about everything is new. So naturally, the only duplicate pages I've had were both Worm Cult.

VaranisArano

I think ZOS clearly balanced the drop rate against the expectation that people would do tons of dailies, 50 a day per character, right?

I just bought my Worm Cult. Because I'm going to do my writs on 7 characters, do a couple pledges and Undaunted dailies, and go about my daily life. Anything more and I'm going to stop enjoying myself and this event.

So I bought my Worm Cult motifs because I wanted the motif and nothing ruins the fun of getting cool rewards like knowing I've got limited tine to collect something I want and not enough time to commit to doing the number of dailies it would take to get the WC motif through RNG.

logarifmik

No - they should drop like hollowjack that flood the market

I'm not very lucky here, so my opinion is biased. I hope to buy missed chapters from the market, and I don't want to spend like 50k gold per chapter. It's an anniversary giveaway after all, random, but still.

badmojo

Should be even rarer

Supposed to be rare like BA? So why do I have half the worm chapters learned and 0 from Boyant Armiger?

VaranisArano

badmojo wrote: »

Supposed to be rare like BA? So why do I have half the worm chapters learned and 0 from Boyant Armiger?

I have 2 WC and 1 BA from drops, so RNG obviously varies.

code65536

No - they should drop like hollowjack that flood the market

supaskrub wrote: »

This style is not rare, the drop rate is not bad when used as a metric against other styles that drop. for example from any given style that is dropping from the reward boxes Worm Cult is the most popular (not just for me either) with Silken Ring following it, but with at least a 50% popularity of what Worm Cult is dropping. Granted I open exactly 90 rewards per day so i would say i am heavily invested into the event. I have received since day one around 20 Worm Cult Motifs (sets completed) which is then followed by Silken Ring where I have received around 8 motifs. My case is not special, rng is what it is but they certainly are not rare as even a browse around guild stores will show you that these things are getting listed regularly and bought regularly despite insanely stupid prices that some charge.

The more you participate in the event then the more you will get out of it, it seems like there is a lot of entitlement from people who through no fault of their own either do not have the time to do a high number of daily quests or have the characters at hand to increase rewards received. You get out of it what you put in to it and the rest is down to rng.

There is no problem selling motifs that are not Worm Cult to buy Worm on the market should folks be so desperate to get their hands on it and there are still several days of the event to come. Rewards are not the only way to acquire the set.

@supaskrub You do 90 boxes per day. 5 full days have elapsed. That's, what, 450 boxes? And you said you got 20 chapters.

I've done 852 boxes. And have only 14 chapters. My worst day of the event, I got 0 chapters in 140 boxes.
I have a friend who does approximately the same number of boxes as you per day, and he's gotten only 3 or 4.

I think 20 out of 450 is a lot higher than what most people are experiencing. Consider yourself lucky.

As for Worm Cult vs. Silken Ring... I don't care about the Silken Ring drop rate, because if I want more Silken Ring chapters, I can get them at any time by running vCoS HM. The reason Worm Cult is stressful for some people is that it's a limited-time affair. Once this event is over, you can't get them again for another year (outside of the player economy, of course). Time-limited motifs Skinchanger have in the past had much higher drop rates precisely because people should reasonably be able to complete them within the two weeks that they have. And when I say "people", I don't mean people who go all out and farm over 50 boxes per day. Most of the players in this game can't farm boxes at that rate.

technohic

Yes - they are meant to be rare like armiger style

I've got some. Even had 2 helms ones so got to learn one and sell the other.

badmojo

Should be even rarer

VaranisArano wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

Supposed to be rare like BA? So why do I have half the worm chapters learned and 0 from Boyant Armiger?

I have 2 WC and 1 BA from drops, so RNG obviously varies.

Point was WC is not as rare as BA. Your numbers also support that.

SolidusPrime

VaranisArano wrote: »

I think ZOS clearly balanced the drop rate against the expectation that people would do tons of dailies, 50 a day per character, right?

I just bought my Worm Cult. Because I'm going to do my writs on 7 characters, do a couple pledges and Undaunted dailies, and go about my daily life. Anything more and I'm going to stop enjoying myself and this event.

So I bought my Worm Cult motifs because I wanted the motif and nothing ruins the fun of getting cool rewards like knowing I've got limited tine to collect something I want and not enough time to commit to doing the number of dailies it would take to get the WC motif through RNG.

I was thinking this too. A not-so-small number of people are running like 75-100 dailies a day, while a majority of us are doing like 12-15 tops.

But the thing is...based on all of these posts....I have been experiencing the same overall rate as the guys doing 100+ a day. I have 5 WC pages total, and have found like 15-20 random other ones, and I only open like 12 boxes a day, sometimes less. My gut tells me it's a cool down of some kind. But who knows?

supaskrub

Should be even rarer

code65536 wrote: »

@supaskrub You do 90 boxes per day. 5 full days have elapsed. That's, what, 450 boxes? And you said you got 20 chapters.

I've done 852 boxes. And have only 14 chapters. My worst day of the event, I got 0 chapters in 140 boxes.
I have a friend who does approximately the same number of boxes as you per day, and he's gotten only 3 or 4.

I think 20 out of 450 is a lot higher than what most people are experiencing. Consider yourself lucky.

As for Worm Cult vs. Silken Ring... I don't care about the Silken Ring drop rate, because if I want more Silken Ring chapters, I can get them at any time by running vCoS HM. The reason Worm Cult is stressful for some people is that it's a limited-time affair. Once this event is over, you can't get them again for another year (outside of the player economy, of course). Time-limited motifs Skinchanger have in the past had much higher drop rates precisely because people should reasonably be able to complete them within the two weeks that they have. And when I say "people", I don't mean people who go all out and farm over 50 boxes per day. Most of the players in this game can't farm boxes at that rate.

@code65536

you need to practice on the maths:

Event began on the 4th of the month for me in the UK @ 3pm, Like many others i did my crafting writs for the 3rd of the month and held off handing them in until the following day when the event had started and of course then did my crafting writs for the first day of the event. so the first day the event started i had a total of 180 reward boxes to open, then has followed a further 5 days of the event (the event is in its 6th day as i key in this reply) which makes a total of 630 reward boxes which isl way in excess of the 450 that you state, if it was 450 reward boxes for around 20 motifs the drop rate would be ridiculous and not too far away from Hollowjack drop rates, as it is the drop rate is still common, I'm not bothered that you can go farm CoS for Silken Ring, I am stating a fact that for myself and many others the most common drop of any single style is Worm Cult, hands down! followed by Silken Ring (again not just in my case as others report the same.

The getting of the motif is not hard, its certainly not stressful, its like anything else where rng is concerned, put in the commitment and you will get the results unless you are super unlucky and even then you can still buy any missing chapters or trade duplicates. The amount of motifs dropping of all kinds is silly and if anyone cannot make enough gold right now from selling motifs that are available daily and year round to buy a limited time motif from people who actually power the event and have a surplus then they are not thinking it out properly.

edited to revise dates and numbers

Onomos

Should at least drop 1 per day so after the event the style should be learnt

I've found 5 total pages, 1 of them a duplicate. If it's more common for others, it definitely isn't for me. I've been opening 20-40 boxes per day.

Dapper Dinosaur

Should at least drop 1 per day so after the event the style should be learnt

The smart thing to do for this event is just sell all the other pages you get and don't need, then use that money to buy the worm cult motifs you don't have when the event is nearly over. Just sell them at throwaway prices like 10k for deadhorn/bloodforge and you'll have your money in no time.

Valkysas154

Been doing my daily's since it started only got 1 WC from the first box and i don't think that even counts i think first box was made to drop 1, BUT i don't care about it or any other motif in the game since i already got a full AD set so it's basically free motifs to sell to me

BozzyTheDrummer

Should at least drop 1 per day so after the event the style should be learnt

My very first box was the worm cult chest. I've not keeping count of the amount of boxes I get, but it's a lot. Haven't seen another worm cult item.

IndianaGeoff

Got one, I did not try to max my boxes. Sold it, I needed the cash so it's good.

xbobx

i am all over the place. i can open 20 boxes and get 10 motifs, not worm.

then next time i opened 20 and i got all white items and maybe 2 green crafting items like beetle scuttle.

there is something more going on in the background because it defies logic.

Merlin13KAGL

It's certainly much higher than it was before the event...

Violynne

Other

I couldn't care less.

I'm not playing this game for the motifs.

Though, I will have to say I found (or bought, can't remember) the Hollowjack daggers.

Yum. Those things look good.

Donum-Dei

I think the word "rare" for this specific and other motifs that are being pages are wrong cataloged. Rare supposed to be those yellow motifs. The entire book. This pages do should be dropping like what the other pages from other motifs have been made to be.

If this "rare" label is placed to this event to represent the meaning of it, is a wrong way to do it. Because even though, the market its making other motif pages for trading not be that much viable or important.

Nightfall12

Other

Comparing it to BA is not even a real comparison BA will still be available next month, this only drops in a limited window. The rate is by no means even some people are getting too many they claim and others are getting next to none.

Orjix

Other

I'm for a slight increase, not to holowjack Levels but more than 1 page out of 250ish boxes

Stewart1874

No - they should drop like hollowjack that flood the market

This is utterly ridiculous and taking away from what should be a very fun event. The time pressure and ridiculously poor drop rate isn't making this enjoyable whatsoever.

NolaArch

Yes - they are meant to be rare like armiger style

I'm happy; I've had 8 drop out of 400 boxes which translates into a 2% drop rate. It's meant to be a rare drop and I'd say 2% rate is pretty on par with that.

Wreuntzylla

akl77 wrote: »

phileunderx2 wrote: »

I think the drops should he more even because it seems you are either getting tons of pages or almost none.

Yea I feel the same, initially it’s dropped like hollowjack rate, then after a few it’s dropped to armiger chest hunting in vvardenfell rate.

Yeah, first day was beautiful, last two

supaskrub wrote: »

This style is not rare, the drop rate is not bad when used as a metric against other styles that drop. for example from any given style that is dropping from the reward boxes Worm Cult is the most popular (not just for me either) with Silken Ring following it, but with at least a 50% popularity of what Worm Cult is dropping. Granted I open exactly 90 rewards per day so i would say i am heavily invested into the event. I have received since day one around 20 Worm Cult Motifs (sets completed) which is then followed by Silken Ring where I have received around 8 motifs. My case is not special, rng is what it is but they certainly are not rare as even a browse around guild stores will show you that these things are getting listed regularly and bought regularly despite insanely stupid prices that some charge.

The more you participate in the event then the more you will get out of it, it seems like there is a lot of entitlement from people who through no fault of their own either do not have the time to do a high number of daily quests or have the characters at hand to increase rewards received. You get out of it what you put in to it and the rest is down to rng.

There is no problem selling motifs that are not Worm Cult to buy Worm on the market should folks be so desperate to get their hands on it and there are still several days of the event to come. Rewards are not the only way to acquire the set.

I'm tired of the constant misuses of the word "entitle" and its grammatical variants.

Entitlement: "I have a right to X, transfer X to me posthaste."

Not entitlement: "I would like X to drop more frequently."

Customers arguing that they should be given something more in exchange for their payment(s) almost never fit the term 'entitled.' In some cases where they do, they actually are, as by contract. I think the word you are looking for is 'negotiate." Even if it is one-way, with ZoS abstaining from participation.

xbobx

i will admit i am doing the boxes for furniture than motifs

randomkeyhits

Can't say I'm happy with the drop rate its definitely painful, at least for me.

I've pretty much given up on the style. If I manage another page then thanks but I'm in no way counting on it and going around guild traders just reminds me its out of reach.

Instead I'm looking at the positives, I've never been a dailies person and this has pushed me to try out some of the various dailies open to me some of which I've quite enjoyed.

And of course the numbers in my crafting bag are getting larger but thats mostly invisible. I get stuff, stuff goes in there and then is promptly forgotten.