Enough raids - how about a 2nd solo challenge like VMA?

Loves_guars

Yes, some content for 2-3 friends pleaseeeeeee!

Jsmalls

We have a 1 and 4 person arena, definitely need a duo arena next. Would be badass.

Milvan

Enough Raids?

ESO is actually lacking wayyy behind compared to any other mmorpg concerning raids.

rophez_ESO

Milvan wrote: »

Enough Raids?

ESO is actually lacking wayyy behind compared to any other mmorpg concerning raids.

Well if you compare 12 man content at end game with solo end game content (VMA only) - I think you can see what I meant.

SanTii.92

a six or two men arena would be awesome.

NewBlacksmurf

I think the obvious is different that how you've wrote it.
-repeatable existing solo content (rewards possibility)
-repeatable duo and trio content that was solo only (rewards possibility)
-4 person trial versions
-solo dungeon versions

Its not that they need to keep adding more stuff for one group or another, but that content where possible should encompass multiple groups.

I'd enjoy redoing some of the story content with friends....heck even add in a hard mode @ZOS_RichLambert have you all thought of doing something like that?

rophez_ESO

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I think the obvious is different that how you've wrote it.
-repeatable existing solo content (rewards possibility)
-repeatable duo and trio content that was solo only (rewards possibility)
-4 person trial versions
-solo dungeon versions

Its not that they need to keep adding more stuff for one group or another, but that content where possible should encompass multiple groups.

I'd enjoy redoing some of the story content with friends....heck even add in a hard mode @ZOS_RichLambert have you all thought of doing something like that?

OMG - I would love if they added an OPTION to play a beefed up VMA with a partner for the chance at different or better rewards.

Colecovision

It seems like it wouldn't be that hard to improve on what's already there. Why not beef up the delves and public dungeons and add a private vet instance. People could go in with the number of people the need to enjoy the content. I'm surprised to see that public dungeons are supposed to be 2 man content, since it seems like a zerg most of the time.

They could also take one of the arena settings from over land missions and make a world boss run. I know people complain when things are rehashed, but I think a new twist on these would be welcomed by many.

jssriot

I'd be all for more solo or even two-player content. But 12-player trials are kind of important in the overall community for different reasons. They are important end-game content for gear and for guilds. And they are one of the reason long-time experienced pve players like me stick around. If ZOS stopped adding new ones, rest assured it'd be a very bad sign.

Izaki

Anotherone773 wrote: »

rustic_potato wrote: »

Kanar wrote: »

Agreed, we need more 2, 3, 4 person trial content. 12 man trials are boring and we already have a lot of them.

12 man content are the end game PVE of this game. I'm assuming that you have completed all the vet HM trials out right now to make such a comment else stop trolling.

You cant really call it end game if only a tiny part of the population only does it. ATM trials are more niche than anything.

You sentence makes no sense.

Kuramas9tails

AlnilamE wrote: »

Maybe when more than 5% of players have completed vMA?

What? Lies. Only 5%? I want another one. VMA was fun and I am working on Flawless but I want another.

Bobby_V_Rockit

Maybe they’ll nerf vMA to encourage ppl to play the new one then... fingers crossed!

Jura23

would be cool if the challenge wasn't just for dps....

beamy93

2 man or another DSA. Maelstrom got boring after the first week and quickly became a grind. Making alt characters to get on more leaderboards to increase my chances of getting the some item i need is not how you should spend your time in an mmo.

devan0216

Select-A-Size dungeons...I like that.

Osteos

I would rather see a duo arena or even something for 3 people.

NoMoreChillies

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

I would like to see a two person challenge so I can play with a friend...this is an MMO after all.

yessssssss

and stop making things 1shot mechanics and DPS races. Tanks and healers wanna play too

Neyane

Would love another solo trial, two-man is cool too.

Beardimus

To be fair id settle for bug fixes in vMA.

but yeah enough with the trials content ZOS...

MLGProPlayer

Kanar wrote: »

Agreed, we need more 2, 3, 4 person trial content. 12 man trials are boring and we already have a lot of them.

I wouldn't say they're boring. They are just difficult to organize.

Guilds that aren't serious take upwards of an hour to organize 12 people. Serious guilds have rosters and schedules, but very few people can put life aside to accommodate a set schedule for a video game.

I enjoy the DLC dungeons. I wouldn't mind other forms of small party content too. Maybe another group arena like DSA.

I like the co-op aspect of MMOs and wasn't a fan of vMA initially since you needed to run it hundreds of times for the gear. But now with transmute, it's not so bad and I wouldn't mind another solo arena.

One thing you can try if you're after a solo challenge is to complete all the dungeons by yourself. It's doable.

Sevn

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Maybe when more than 5% of players have completed vMA?

What? Lies. Only 5%? I want another one. VMA was fun and I am working on Flawless but I want another.

Lies? This stat is easily proven by just checking the trophy stats on the 2 console platforms, not sure how to check on pc. It's less than 2% on ps4, pretty sure xbox is similar.

Peekachu99

Why are we missing the obvious: an LFG interface for organizing and specifiying groups? Literally every other MMORPG has this by now except ESO. Before you’re triggered, I’m not talking about putting Vet Trials in the Activity Finder. I’m talking about something similar to FFXIV.

MLGProPlayer

Sevn wrote: »

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Maybe when more than 5% of players have completed vMA?

What? Lies. Only 5%? I want another one. VMA was fun and I am working on Flawless but I want another.

Lies? This stat is easily proven by just checking the trophy stats on the 2 console platforms, not sure how to check on pc. It's less than 2% on ps4, pretty sure xbox is similar.

Vet trials are just as low.

NoMoreChillies

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Kanar wrote: »

One thing you can try if you're after a solo challenge is to complete all the dungeons by yourself. It's doable.

how do you complete Wayrest 2 solo?

Minyassa

I don't care if it's an MMO, I would very much like more solo content because maybe my best interaction with other players in an MMO is trade or role-playing instead of group fighting. If MMO meant "exclusively grouping up to fight" then it wouldn't need any other social options whatsoever. So yeah, solo combat content in an MMO is perfectly appropriate. I'd also love to see some duo content for when I do feel like grouping up to fight but only with my best friend who is on all the time with me and not just wait until we can find two more.

Grimm13

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I hope not, I loathe vma. Never want to see another solo trial with exclusive gear again.

I'd be fine with a 2 man though. This game is an mmo, there shouldn't be solo only content.

You are correct this is a MMORPG in which a story is presented to the players. Each Player should be able to experience that story in the fullest which you can not when you have others that feel inconvenienced that someone wants to actually hear or read the story mission.

I would not mind the these multi-player runs if they also had a solo version to allow for that experience. A single special piece award at the full completion of the mission and possibly a 50 hour lockout timer. This would limit it to 3 runs a week so that it's not a gear grab run around but still pleasurable for all the solo players in a MMORPG. There are a lot of solo players.

Grimm13

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Maybe when more than 5% of players have completed vMA?

What? Lies. Only 5%? I want another one. VMA was fun and I am working on Flawless but I want another.

Never tried it. Didn't even know it was a solo until this thread. Game is horrible about informing the player.

MLGProPlayer

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

how do you complete Wayrest 2 solo?

Ask @Vaoh.

He's completed every (or at least most) vet dungeons solo. Usually there are ways to cheese group mechanics. There might be a few exceptions, but the majority of dungeons are soloable (including vet DLC).

Here is vCOS, for example: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/304762/vet-cradle-of-shadows-has-been-soloed/p1

Vaoh

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

how do you complete Wayrest 2 solo?

Ask Vaoh.

He's completed every (or at least most) vet dungeons solo. Usually there are ways to cheese group mechanics. There might be a few exceptions, but the majority of dungeons are soloable (including vet DLC).

Here is vCOS, for example: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/304762/vet-cradle-of-shadows-has-been-soloed/p1

Idk about Vet Wayrest Sewers 2 tbh. Haven’t even tried to solo it once.

I have a few ideas on how to potentially avoid the mechanic of 2nd boss (stay far away, LoS, wear Phoenix, etc) but chances are it’s unavoidable.

The rest of the dungeon should be really easy though.

Kuramas9tails

Sevn wrote: »

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Maybe when more than 5% of players have completed vMA?

What? Lies. Only 5%? I want another one. VMA was fun and I am working on Flawless but I want another.

Lies? This stat is easily proven by just checking the trophy stats on the 2 console platforms, not sure how to check on pc. It's less than 2% on ps4, pretty sure xbox is similar.

@Sevn WHAT? I.......hmmmm. I had no idea honestly. I am not even a great player (I think) and I eventually beat VMA as a Khajiit Mageblade with Willpower, Twice Born Star and Skoria (I think random staves too). When I rewatch my first defeat for VMA, I shake my head. How did I ever beat it. But I spent like 2 months the first time.