Which class is in the best place PvP-wise Q1 2018?

TimeDazzler

StamDen

Stam warden is the best for open world.
Stamblade is good for killing things especially in no-CP, but not so good in 1 v 1's or group play.
If I had to choose a magicka class I would say magblade with caluuron's or magDK just block-casting since its so much cheaper this patch.

Hutch679

StamNB

Stamina nightblades for sure. They buffed dodge this update and nightblades can cloak and negate all damage anytime they want. Super cheese.

Priyasekarssk

StamNB

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I hope you not understanding . Double CC means , CC one after the other. Magicka scorer can break first one with available stamina , with stamina drain poison its too difficult , but do able. Second one you cannot with drain stamina. I can spam this at you Its not blockable or dodge able.
http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

You can only defeat noobs with pet sorc. Pets are useless. Have ever seen any pros using pets?

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I think you didnt understand what I am telling. Pets are useless. You cannot burst anyone with pets. Burst damage means you need to have damage that can kill opponent in 2-3 seconds max for 25000 hp. You can use monkey if you have slots. It only create some inconvienence. It doesn't change anything in big way. Pets will not attack anyone in stealth. Tormentar not even take 1 hit max. Have ever seen any pros using pets ? Probably you might play with some new bies on duels. I am not sure why I am replying .

http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Again do you know NB has most powerful CC called fear which is spammable and not blockable and apply on you as well your pet ?
You need stamina to break CC ? Magicka builds have low stamina pool at 10k max ? I can do stamina poison injection from my bow instantly, combining my CC.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Poisons

and spam CC at you. You can at most free 1 CC. After that you have to pray to god. 2 Seconds cc is more than enough for stam NB to kill you.

A break free costs around 5000 stamina . You need 7500+ stamina to break free with poison injection . When you roll dodge or any other thing you cannot break free. If you break free 1 time , I CC again. NB can come at your back mostly in stealth.

http://esoacademy.com/break-free-cc-break/

Please dont tell me I will use my shield, when I am in CC. You need to be break free first to cast anything.

Magicka Sorc not even stand a chance against stam NB. Some noob NB here are complaining because they dont know how to use NB. Rune prison only silence player, its not a CC. It was used long time back by pros when magicka socrer can do 1vX. Its used for silencing enemies other than you are targeting to kill . Now magicka socrer cannot even do a 1v1. What purpose of using rune prison in 1v1 ? What are you are trying to achieve ? It automatically goes off when first hit. Its only waste of magicka in duels.

Please understand the game. I dont reply to this anymore . Its up to you to learn for yourself.

Derra

MagNB

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Its up to you to learn for yourself.

I think you´re the only one who has something to learn if you really think petsorc is weak in duels.

I don´t know any class or spec that will reliably kill a petsorc not even with 100% counterbuilds. They´re the gods of dueling if played well.

Ariades_swe

StamNB

StamNB

Ariades_swe

StamNB

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I hope you not understanding . Double CC means , CC one after the other. Magicka scorer can break first one with available stamina , with stamina drain poison its too difficult , but do able. Second one you cannot with drain stamina. I can spam this at you Its not blockable or dodge able.
http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

You can only defeat noobs with pet sorc. Pets are useless. Have ever seen any pros using pets?

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I think you didnt understand what I am telling. Pets are useless. You cannot burst anyone with pets. Burst damage means you need to have damage that can kill opponent in 2-3 seconds max for 25000 hp. You can use monkey if you have slots. It only create some inconvienence. It doesn't change anything in big way. Pets will not attack anyone in stealth. Tormentar not even take 1 hit max. Have ever seen any pros using pets ? Probably you might play with some new bies on duels. I am not sure why I am replying .

http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Again do you know NB has most powerful CC called fear which is spammable and not blockable and apply on you as well your pet ?
You need stamina to break CC ? Magicka builds have low stamina pool at 10k max ? I can do stamina poison injection from my bow instantly, combining my CC.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Poisons

and spam CC at you. You can at most free 1 CC. After that you have to pray to god. 2 Seconds cc is more than enough for stam NB to kill you.

A break free costs around 5000 stamina . You need 7500+ stamina to break free with poison injection . When you roll dodge or any other thing you cannot break free. If you break free 1 time , I CC again. NB can come at your back mostly in stealth.

http://esoacademy.com/break-free-cc-break/

Please dont tell me I will use my shield, when I am in CC. You need to be break free first to cast anything.

Magicka Sorc not even stand a chance against stam NB. Some noob NB here are complaining because they dont know how to use NB. Rune prison only silence player, its not a CC. It was used long time back by pros when magicka socrer can do 1vX. Its used for silencing enemies other than you are targeting to kill . Now magicka socrer cannot even do a 1v1. What purpose of using rune prison in 1v1 ? What are you are trying to achieve ? It automatically goes off when first hit. Its only waste of magicka in duels.

Please understand the game. I dont reply to this anymore . Its up to you to learn for yourself.

Lol you are funny.

Ragnaroek93

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I hope you not understanding . Double CC means , CC one after the other. Magicka scorer can break first one with available stamina , with stamina drain poison its too difficult , but do able. Second one you cannot with drain stamina. I can spam this at you Its not blockable or dodge able.
http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

You can only defeat noobs with pet sorc. Pets are useless. Have ever seen any pros using pets?

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I think you didnt understand what I am telling. Pets are useless. You cannot burst anyone with pets. Burst damage means you need to have damage that can kill opponent in 2-3 seconds max for 25000 hp. You can use monkey if you have slots. It only create some inconvienence. It doesn't change anything in big way. Pets will not attack anyone in stealth. Tormentar not even take 1 hit max. Have ever seen any pros using pets ? Probably you might play with some new bies on duels. I am not sure why I am replying .

http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Again do you know NB has most powerful CC called fear which is spammable and not blockable and apply on you as well your pet ?
You need stamina to break CC ? Magicka builds have low stamina pool at 10k max ? I can do stamina poison injection from my bow instantly, combining my CC.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Poisons

and spam CC at you. You can at most free 1 CC. After that you have to pray to god. 2 Seconds cc is more than enough for stam NB to kill you.

A break free costs around 5000 stamina . You need 7500+ stamina to break free with poison injection . When you roll dodge or any other thing you cannot break free. If you break free 1 time , I CC again. NB can come at your back mostly in stealth.

http://esoacademy.com/break-free-cc-break/

Please dont tell me I will use my shield, when I am in CC. You need to be break free first to cast anything.

Magicka Sorc not even stand a chance against stam NB. Some noob NB here are complaining because they dont know how to use NB. Rune prison only silence player, its not a CC. It was used long time back by pros when magicka socrer can do 1vX. Its used for silencing enemies other than you are targeting to kill . Now magicka socrer cannot even do a 1v1. What purpose of using rune prison in 1v1 ? What are you are trying to achieve ? It automatically goes off when first hit. Its only waste of magicka in duels.

Please understand the game. I dont reply to this anymore . Its up to you to learn for yourself.

Duels are not about burst but about pressure. Please do everybody a favour and really don't reply to this if you consider petsorc as weak in duels (guess why petsorc is banned from every tournament LUL).

technohic

StamDen

So close between stamden and stamblade. Went Stamden because a stamblade can cloack and heal to full to just open up and burst the next target down; a stamden just doesnt have to.

RebornV3x

StamNB

Stam NB are amazing both in CP and non CP stam anything PVP wise can be great tho it was a tough choice

red_emu

So far, the poll results are actually pretty incredible and show a lot when it comes to the lack of class balance in the current state of ESO.

TimeDazzler

StamDen

red_emu wrote: »

So far, the poll results are actually pretty incredible and show a lot when it comes to the lack of class balance in the current state of ESO.

I think it has less to do with the classes but more on how the game is designed. Stamina is just so much better than magicka. It is the "premium" resource if you will think of it, blocking, roll dodging, cc breaking, sprinting, sneaking all cost stamina. If I could cc break using magicka then I think some of the mag classes would be higher up but in the current state of the game mag characters have to invest in stamina like crazy. For example, shacklebreaker, trifood, etc.

Koensol

StamDen

Gotta love how everyone is jumping on the stamblade bandwagon. Yes the class is stronger compared to others atm, but stamdens are just a complete joke with the amount of damage they can put out while having insane survivability. Sub assault + dawnbreaker combo is just so broken it's not even funny.

CatchMeTrolling

StamNB

Koensol wrote: »

Gotta love how everyone is jumping on the stamblade bandwagon. Yes the class is stronger compared to others atm, but stamdens are just a complete joke with the amount of damage they can put out while having insane survivability. Sub assault + dawnbreaker combo is just so broken it's not even funny.

The thing about it is you have set it up, fight enough stamdens and it becomes so obvious what they're going to do. That combo is only a problem if you get caught off guard.

Stam NBs can put out insane burst too, the difference is you can just pop out of stealth and nuke someone without them being able to recover. Can reset a fight at will, heal up within 3secs, an ult that's irrationally cheap that comes with questionable things, the most convenient passives in the game, a cc that's been broken since I started playing at launch, also can be very brawly if you build them correctly. Theres a reason they have always been popular, it's the easiest class to hop on and get kills with little thought put into it.

Sure the average player can get lucky with that combo and get a kill or two but really realistically theres not too many good ones, not to mention I rarely see a stam warden outside of bgs. Even then you know the ones by heart. There's a reason for this, stam warden has an amazing toolkit but people like to forget with that toolkit there's a lot of management that goes into it and the average player is going to migrate to something easier. Hence Stam NBs taking that spot back after the stam warden fotm phase has died down.

Vaoh

I’m actually genuinely surprised ppl didn’t spam Mag Sorc because of how hated they’ve historically been.

Also we’ve had like what, only 1-2 threads asking to nerf Sorcs in the past few weeks?

These can’t be the ESO Forums....

Sixty5

MagNB

TFW my class has the least votes
FeelsBadMan

Vaoh wrote: »

I’m actually genuinely surprised ppl didn’t spam Mag Sorc because of how hated they’ve historically been.

Also we’ve had like what, only 1-2 threads asking to nerf Sorcs in the past few weeks?

These can’t be the ESO Forums....

People are actually starting to realise that Mag Sorc already has been nerfed, and that other classes have been buffed up to superior positions.

Though I'm still waiting on the next Shield Stacking QQ thread

Ariades_swe

StamNB

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Koensol wrote: »

Gotta love how everyone is jumping on the stamblade bandwagon. Yes the class is stronger compared to others atm, but stamdens are just a complete joke with the amount of damage they can put out while having insane survivability. Sub assault + dawnbreaker combo is just so broken it's not even funny.

The thing about it is you have set it up, fight enough stamdens and it becomes so obvious what they're going to do. That combo is only a problem if you get caught off guard.

Stam NBs can put out insane burst too, the difference is you can just pop out of stealth and nuke someone without them being able to recover. Can reset a fight at will, heal up within 3secs, an ult that's irrationally cheap that comes with questionable things, the most convenient passives in the game, a cc that's been broken since I started playing at launch, also can be very brawly if you build them correctly. Theres a reason they have always been popular, it's the easiest class to hop on and get kills with little thought put into it.

Sure the average player can get lucky with that combo and get a kill or two but really realistically theres not too many good ones, not to mention I rarely see a stam warden outside of bgs. Even then you know the ones by heart. There's a reason for this, stam warden has an amazing toolkit but people like to forget with that toolkit there's a lot of management that goes into it and the average player is going to migrate to something easier. Hence Stam NBs taking that spot back after the stam warden fotm phase has died down.

This.

Vanzen

StamNB

Stam NBs are scandalously overpowered in no CP BGs.

That this can happen in such magniutude in a pvp game is beyond my understanding.

IZZEFlameLash

StamNB

Koensol wrote: »

Gotta love how everyone is jumping on the stamblade bandwagon. Yes the class is stronger compared to others atm, but stamdens are just a complete joke with the amount of damage they can put out while having insane survivability. Sub assault + dawnbreaker combo is just so broken it's not even funny.

Stamden combo is very easy to avoid but Stamblade combo can be unavoidable with or without cloak because their animations and fx are so short. And they do not wait for 3 seconds timer. With stamden, you see the combo miles away and can block most parts of its combo because they do not have unblockable cc while stamNB can basically fear you to drop the block and then continue with combo. And major defile attached to the cheap ult with high damage makes the combo most deadly with you having to spend extra resources on purging and healing or just healing even more if you are not templar. And on top of that, it is so fast executing combo.

Priyasekarssk

StamNB

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I hope you not understanding . Double CC means , CC one after the other. Magicka scorer can break first one with available stamina , with stamina drain poison its too difficult , but do able. Second one you cannot with drain stamina. I can spam this at you Its not blockable or dodge able.
http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

You can only defeat noobs with pet sorc. Pets are useless. Have ever seen any pros using pets?

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I think you didnt understand what I am telling. Pets are useless. You cannot burst anyone with pets. Burst damage means you need to have damage that can kill opponent in 2-3 seconds max for 25000 hp. You can use monkey if you have slots. It only create some inconvienence. It doesn't change anything in big way. Pets will not attack anyone in stealth. Tormentar not even take 1 hit max. Have ever seen any pros using pets ? Probably you might play with some new bies on duels. I am not sure why I am replying .

http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Again do you know NB has most powerful CC called fear which is spammable and not blockable and apply on you as well your pet ?
You need stamina to break CC ? Magicka builds have low stamina pool at 10k max ? I can do stamina poison injection from my bow instantly, combining my CC.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Poisons

and spam CC at you. You can at most free 1 CC. After that you have to pray to god. 2 Seconds cc is more than enough for stam NB to kill you.

A break free costs around 5000 stamina . You need 7500+ stamina to break free with poison injection . When you roll dodge or any other thing you cannot break free. If you break free 1 time , I CC again. NB can come at your back mostly in stealth.

http://esoacademy.com/break-free-cc-break/

Please dont tell me I will use my shield, when I am in CC. You need to be break free first to cast anything.

Magicka Sorc not even stand a chance against stam NB. Some noob NB here are complaining because they dont know how to use NB. Rune prison only silence player, its not a CC. It was used long time back by pros when magicka socrer can do 1vX. Its used for silencing enemies other than you are targeting to kill . Now magicka socrer cannot even do a 1v1. What purpose of using rune prison in 1v1 ? What are you are trying to achieve ? It automatically goes off when first hit. Its only waste of magicka in duels.

Please understand the game. I dont reply to this anymore . Its up to you to learn for yourself.

Duels are not about burst but about pressure. Please do everybody a favour and really don't reply to this if you consider petsorc as weak in duels (guess why petsorc is banned from every tournament LUL).

Another noob NB , dont know how to kill ? You should now complain about warden not any other class. Why should I waste my time with noobs ? Poll says it all. Pro players already given their opinion. Petsorc is banned from every tournament ? Only regeneration builds are banned that too only in certain tournaments.

thankyourat

StamDen

Vanzen wrote: »

Stam NBs are scandalously overpowered in no CP BGs.

That this can happen in such magniutude in a pvp game is beyond my understanding.

The problem is ZoS has built two different games. In CP pvp you can pretty much play whatever you want and be successful. It's incredibly easy to create a build that can't be bursted by a stamblade and still have great burst and sustain yourself. I really don't see a way ZoS can balance both CP and no CP without completely changing the game.

kadar

StamDen

Wow guys, scrap the mNB, you're convincing me to unpack my Stamblade again!

kadar

StamDen

Barring ganks (L2P goddammit, yes I'm talking to both of you), why is Stamblade in the "best place?" I'm genuinely curious.

ak_pvp

StamNB

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I hope you not understanding . Double CC means , CC one after the other. Magicka scorer can break first one with available stamina , with stamina drain poison its too difficult , but do able. Second one you cannot with drain stamina. I can spam this at you Its not blockable or dodge able.
http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

You can only defeat noobs with pet sorc. Pets are useless. Have ever seen any pros using pets?

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I think you didnt understand what I am telling. Pets are useless. You cannot burst anyone with pets. Burst damage means you need to have damage that can kill opponent in 2-3 seconds max for 25000 hp. You can use monkey if you have slots. It only create some inconvienence. It doesn't change anything in big way. Pets will not attack anyone in stealth. Tormentar not even take 1 hit max. Have ever seen any pros using pets ? Probably you might play with some new bies on duels. I am not sure why I am replying .

http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Again do you know NB has most powerful CC called fear which is spammable and not blockable and apply on you as well your pet ?
You need stamina to break CC ? Magicka builds have low stamina pool at 10k max ? I can do stamina poison injection from my bow instantly, combining my CC.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Poisons

and spam CC at you. You can at most free 1 CC. After that you have to pray to god. 2 Seconds cc is more than enough for stam NB to kill you.

A break free costs around 5000 stamina . You need 7500+ stamina to break free with poison injection . When you roll dodge or any other thing you cannot break free. If you break free 1 time , I CC again. NB can come at your back mostly in stealth.

http://esoacademy.com/break-free-cc-break/

Please dont tell me I will use my shield, when I am in CC. You need to be break free first to cast anything.

Magicka Sorc not even stand a chance against stam NB. Some noob NB here are complaining because they dont know how to use NB. Rune prison only silence player, its not a CC. It was used long time back by pros when magicka socrer can do 1vX. Its used for silencing enemies other than you are targeting to kill . Now magicka socrer cannot even do a 1v1. What purpose of using rune prison in 1v1 ? What are you are trying to achieve ? It automatically goes off when first hit. Its only waste of magicka in duels.

Please understand the game. I dont reply to this anymore . Its up to you to learn for yourself.

Duels are not about burst but about pressure. Please do everybody a favour and really don't reply to this if you consider petsorc as weak in duels (guess why petsorc is banned from every tournament LUL).

Another noob NB , dont know how to kill ? You should now complain about warden not any other class. Why should I waste my time with noobs ? Poll says it all. Pro players already given their opinion. Petsorc is banned from every tournament ? Only regeneration builds are banned that too only in certain tournaments.

^^ Dis guyy..

IZZEFlameLash

StamNB

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I hope you not understanding . Double CC means , CC one after the other. Magicka scorer can break first one with available stamina , with stamina drain poison its too difficult , but do able. Second one you cannot with drain stamina. I can spam this at you Its not blockable or dodge able.
http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

You can only defeat noobs with pet sorc. Pets are useless. Have ever seen any pros using pets?

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I think you didnt understand what I am telling. Pets are useless. You cannot burst anyone with pets. Burst damage means you need to have damage that can kill opponent in 2-3 seconds max for 25000 hp. You can use monkey if you have slots. It only create some inconvienence. It doesn't change anything in big way. Pets will not attack anyone in stealth. Tormentar not even take 1 hit max. Have ever seen any pros using pets ? Probably you might play with some new bies on duels. I am not sure why I am replying .

http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Again do you know NB has most powerful CC called fear which is spammable and not blockable and apply on you as well your pet ?
You need stamina to break CC ? Magicka builds have low stamina pool at 10k max ? I can do stamina poison injection from my bow instantly, combining my CC.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Poisons

and spam CC at you. You can at most free 1 CC. After that you have to pray to god. 2 Seconds cc is more than enough for stam NB to kill you.

A break free costs around 5000 stamina . You need 7500+ stamina to break free with poison injection . When you roll dodge or any other thing you cannot break free. If you break free 1 time , I CC again. NB can come at your back mostly in stealth.

http://esoacademy.com/break-free-cc-break/

Please dont tell me I will use my shield, when I am in CC. You need to be break free first to cast anything.

Magicka Sorc not even stand a chance against stam NB. Some noob NB here are complaining because they dont know how to use NB. Rune prison only silence player, its not a CC. It was used long time back by pros when magicka socrer can do 1vX. Its used for silencing enemies other than you are targeting to kill . Now magicka socrer cannot even do a 1v1. What purpose of using rune prison in 1v1 ? What are you are trying to achieve ? It automatically goes off when first hit. Its only waste of magicka in duels.

Please understand the game. I dont reply to this anymore . Its up to you to learn for yourself.

Duels are not about burst but about pressure. Please do everybody a favour and really don't reply to this if you consider petsorc as weak in duels (guess why petsorc is banned from every tournament LUL).

Another noob NB , dont know how to kill ? You should now complain about warden not any other class. Why should I waste my time with noobs ? Poll says it all. Pro players already given their opinion. Petsorc is banned from every tournament ? Only regeneration builds are banned that too only in certain tournaments.

He's a stamDK though.

ReverseVenom

StamDen

Everyone who says StamNB just needs to play one, die about five times on failed ganks, and just copy what the guy who killed you did when you fight one on another class.

I've played Stamblade since the day the subscription dropped on PC before moving to Xbox a year later and again started my stamblade, basically I find myself to be a pretty good stamblade, I go toe to toe with other classes I barely gank unless I'm in IC. I've also leveled and played every other class in PvP and when I encounter a stamblade it's pretty much a free kill. They have a stupidly predictable combo and most NB play it for the rogue style which means their actual combat experience is minimal (especially if they're garbage stamblades who got their builds from Sypher or Deltia) which can be countered by every class almost immediately even from a gank.

Sorcs- curse, sheild stack until curse is about to go off (bonus points if using infernal gaurdian) and rain hell on the purple blob

Templar- they have that sunlight beam, use it. or shards, or ritual

Warden- If you're playing the warden you get no tips, you already know what to spam

Dk- do what you do best. Tank then CC

NB- see who can cloak the longest, like measuring *** but with magicka instead. winner takes all

if all else fails use magelight/camo hunter or the numerous aoes available to each class, and of course detection pots, which are easily fired off and slotted

and remember if a Nightblade has hit you for stupidly high amounts of damage that you took all the precautions for in your classes arsenal then they aren't doing much for their alliance by ganking the one ungrouped guy or horrifically slow group member, They've built for pure damage, they are useless in any other scenario. If they want to build that way then they do their purpose and at that point justifiably so.

manage your stamina for fear, don't get cocky/lower guard no matter how low they are, and keep the pressure. You'll be fine.

Nihility42

StamNB

This is largely based on BGs, so take it with a grain of salt, but stamblades are the worst class for me to deal with. Cloak is super powerful in no CP and they do ridiculous damage. I've started slotting detect poisons because there are so many in BGs.

Derra

MagNB

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I hope you not understanding . Double CC means , CC one after the other. Magicka scorer can break first one with available stamina , with stamina drain poison its too difficult , but do able. Second one you cannot with drain stamina. I can spam this at you Its not blockable or dodge able.
http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

You can only defeat noobs with pet sorc. Pets are useless. Have ever seen any pros using pets?

ak_pvp wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

I think you didnt understand what I am telling. Pets are useless. You cannot burst anyone with pets. Burst damage means you need to have damage that can kill opponent in 2-3 seconds max for 25000 hp. You can use monkey if you have slots. It only create some inconvienence. It doesn't change anything in big way. Pets will not attack anyone in stealth. Tormentar not even take 1 hit max. Have ever seen any pros using pets ? Probably you might play with some new bies on duels. I am not sure why I am replying .

http://esoacademy.com/skills/mass-hysteria/

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Again do you know NB has most powerful CC called fear which is spammable and not blockable and apply on you as well your pet ?
You need stamina to break CC ? Magicka builds have low stamina pool at 10k max ? I can do stamina poison injection from my bow instantly, combining my CC.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Poisons

and spam CC at you. You can at most free 1 CC. After that you have to pray to god. 2 Seconds cc is more than enough for stam NB to kill you.

A break free costs around 5000 stamina . You need 7500+ stamina to break free with poison injection . When you roll dodge or any other thing you cannot break free. If you break free 1 time , I CC again. NB can come at your back mostly in stealth.

http://esoacademy.com/break-free-cc-break/

Please dont tell me I will use my shield, when I am in CC. You need to be break free first to cast anything.

Magicka Sorc not even stand a chance against stam NB. Some noob NB here are complaining because they dont know how to use NB. Rune prison only silence player, its not a CC. It was used long time back by pros when magicka socrer can do 1vX. Its used for silencing enemies other than you are targeting to kill . Now magicka socrer cannot even do a 1v1. What purpose of using rune prison in 1v1 ? What are you are trying to achieve ? It automatically goes off when first hit. Its only waste of magicka in duels.

Please understand the game. I dont reply to this anymore . Its up to you to learn for yourself.

Duels are not about burst but about pressure. Please do everybody a favour and really don't reply to this if you consider petsorc as weak in duels (guess why petsorc is banned from every tournament LUL).

Another noob NB , dont know how to kill ? You should now complain about warden not any other class. Why should I waste my time with noobs ? Poll says it all. Pro players already given their opinion. Petsorc is banned from every tournament ? Only regeneration builds are banned that too only in certain tournaments.

This poll is not about dueling - if it was we´d see different results.

Vaoh

Sixty5 wrote: »

TFW my class has the least votes
FeelsBadMan

Vaoh wrote: »

I’m actually genuinely surprised ppl didn’t spam Mag Sorc because of how hated they’ve historically been.

Also we’ve had like what, only 1-2 threads asking to nerf Sorcs in the past few weeks?

These can’t be the ESO Forums....

People are actually starting to realise that Mag Sorc already has been nerfed, and that other classes have been buffed up to superior positions.

Though I'm still waiting on the next Shield Stacking QQ thread

The most laughable threads were the ones saying that Mag Sorc got *buffed* when Crystal Frags lost its CC xD no I’m not joking..... there were a few threads about it and lots of ppl jumped on the Sorc hate bandwagon agreeing then every Sorc replaced Frags with Destructive Touch or finally switched classes.

But yeah the Shield Stacking QQ threads are good too.

FloppyTouch

StamNB

Is this a joke? Ofc its stam NB

Biro123

Vaoh wrote: »

Sixty5 wrote: »

TFW my class has the least votes
FeelsBadMan

Vaoh wrote: »

I’m actually genuinely surprised ppl didn’t spam Mag Sorc because of how hated they’ve historically been.

Also we’ve had like what, only 1-2 threads asking to nerf Sorcs in the past few weeks?

These can’t be the ESO Forums....

People are actually starting to realise that Mag Sorc already has been nerfed, and that other classes have been buffed up to superior positions.

Though I'm still waiting on the next Shield Stacking QQ thread

The most laughable threads were the ones saying that Mag Sorc got *buffed* when Crystal Frags lost its CC xD no I’m not joking..... there were a few threads about it and lots of ppl jumped on the Sorc hate bandwagon agreeing then every Sorc replaced Frags with Destructive Touch or finally switched classes.

But yeah the Shield Stacking QQ threads are good too.

In some ways though (on a very specific build) it is good that my frags isn't dishing out cc-immunity every time I use it so I can make sure that when when I really want to burst, runecage will stick. just wish they hadn't hammered the cost of runecage too...