Which class is in the best place PvP-wise Q1 2018?

Waffennacht

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Biro123 wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Sixty5 wrote: »

TFW my class has the least votes
FeelsBadMan

Vaoh wrote: »

I’m actually genuinely surprised ppl didn’t spam Mag Sorc because of how hated they’ve historically been.

Also we’ve had like what, only 1-2 threads asking to nerf Sorcs in the past few weeks?

These can’t be the ESO Forums....

People are actually starting to realise that Mag Sorc already has been nerfed, and that other classes have been buffed up to superior positions.

Though I'm still waiting on the next Shield Stacking QQ thread

The most laughable threads were the ones saying that Mag Sorc got *buffed* when Crystal Frags lost its CC xD no I’m not joking..... there were a few threads about it and lots of ppl jumped on the Sorc hate bandwagon agreeing then every Sorc replaced Frags with Destructive Touch or finally switched classes.

But yeah the Shield Stacking QQ threads are good too.

In some ways though (on a very specific build) it is good that my frags isn't dishing out cc-immunity every time I use it so I can make sure that when when I really want to burst, runecage will stick. just wish they hadn't hammered the cost of runecage too...

You can get that $&+#er to fire? It's so GD clunky

Biro123

Waffennacht wrote: »

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Biro123 wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Sixty5 wrote: »

TFW my class has the least votes
FeelsBadMan

Vaoh wrote: »

I’m actually genuinely surprised ppl didn’t spam Mag Sorc because of how hated they’ve historically been.

Also we’ve had like what, only 1-2 threads asking to nerf Sorcs in the past few weeks?

These can’t be the ESO Forums....

People are actually starting to realise that Mag Sorc already has been nerfed, and that other classes have been buffed up to superior positions.

Though I'm still waiting on the next Shield Stacking QQ thread

The most laughable threads were the ones saying that Mag Sorc got *buffed* when Crystal Frags lost its CC xD no I’m not joking..... there were a few threads about it and lots of ppl jumped on the Sorc hate bandwagon agreeing then every Sorc replaced Frags with Destructive Touch or finally switched classes.

But yeah the Shield Stacking QQ threads are good too.

In some ways though (on a very specific build) it is good that my frags isn't dishing out cc-immunity every time I use it so I can make sure that when when I really want to burst, runecage will stick. just wish they hadn't hammered the cost of runecage too...

You can get that $&+#er to fire? It's so GD clunky

I have it back-barred and swap-cancel before firing the frag. Just have to get used the fact that it won't even try to fire if your target is cc-immune, so just ignore and continue with the frag - then try again next time both curse is ready and frag is procced.

Vaoh

Biro123 wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Sixty5 wrote: »

TFW my class has the least votes
FeelsBadMan

Vaoh wrote: »

I’m actually genuinely surprised ppl didn’t spam Mag Sorc because of how hated they’ve historically been.

Also we’ve had like what, only 1-2 threads asking to nerf Sorcs in the past few weeks?

These can’t be the ESO Forums....

People are actually starting to realise that Mag Sorc already has been nerfed, and that other classes have been buffed up to superior positions.

Though I'm still waiting on the next Shield Stacking QQ thread

The most laughable threads were the ones saying that Mag Sorc got *buffed* when Crystal Frags lost its CC xD no I’m not joking..... there were a few threads about it and lots of ppl jumped on the Sorc hate bandwagon agreeing then every Sorc replaced Frags with Destructive Touch or finally switched classes.

But yeah the Shield Stacking QQ threads are good too.

In some ways though (on a very specific build) it is good that my frags isn't dishing out cc-immunity every time I use it so I can make sure that when when I really want to burst, runecage will stick. just wish they hadn't hammered the cost of runecage too...

Well that’s usually how it goes with these sort of nerfs. Slightly okay for a tiny handful of people but really bad for everyone else. The whole reasoning behind it is to encourage the use of Crystal Blast.

It’s amazing how they call Crystal Frags “overloaded” even after the numerous damage nerfs to finally justify removing it’s CC, when a skill like Merciless Resolve exists for Mag NB. That thing is reliable, doesn’t make your hands glow, gives you Minor Beserk, and has a proc that hits way harder than Frags ever did. That’s all fine but it’s sad they nerfed Sorcs because of QQ. If every non-dueling Sorc build is using a Master Destro it’s pretty clear that these nerfs are ridiculous.

techprince

StamNB

How much time will it take for ZOS to recognise how bullshietly overloaded NB is?

Aznox

StamSorc

Voted for my own class, that way if i fail : no excuses !

... also why no Werewolf option ?

More seriously, i swear 1/3 of the opponents are Stamblade in some dueling or battle grounds.

I'm not worried too much about finding counters, we will, but the situation is a bit sad for game diversity.

Derra

MagNB

Aznox wrote: »

Voted for my own class, that way if i fail : no excuses !

... also why no Werewolf option ?

More seriously, i swear 1/3 of the opponents are Stamblade in some dueling or battle grounds.

I'm not worried too much about finding counters, we will, but the situation is a bit sad for game diversity.

The counter to NB is: NB. Mark target is pretty solid

Aznox

StamSorc

Derra wrote: »

The counter to NB is: NB. Mark target is pretty solid

Imagine the level of crying if this ability had been given to another class : all the NB would have floated out of Craglorn

thankyourat

StamDen

Derra wrote: »

Aznox wrote: »

Voted for my own class, that way if i fail : no excuses !

... also why no Werewolf option ?

More seriously, i swear 1/3 of the opponents are Stamblade in some dueling or battle grounds.

I'm not worried too much about finding counters, we will, but the situation is a bit sad for game diversity.

The counter to NB is: NB. Mark target is pretty solid

Mark is good. I actually prefer detect pots to free up that bar slot for elemental drain though. Detect pots work fine for me. I just always run out and have to slot mark

Ragnarock41

StamNB

Aznox wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

The counter to NB is: NB. Mark target is pretty solid

Imagine the level of crying if this ability had been given to another class : all the NB would have floated out of Craglorn

should have been the case imo.

the only solid cloak counter is accessible to cloak users, makes zero sense.

Mark should have been a fighters guild or assault ability.

It would make nbs instantly balanced.

technohic

StamDen

thankyourat wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Aznox wrote: »

Voted for my own class, that way if i fail : no excuses !

... also why no Werewolf option ?

More seriously, i swear 1/3 of the opponents are Stamblade in some dueling or battle grounds.

I'm not worried too much about finding counters, we will, but the situation is a bit sad for game diversity.

The counter to NB is: NB. Mark target is pretty solid

Mark is good. I actually prefer detect pots to free up that bar slot for elemental drain though. Detect pots work fine for me. I just always run out and have to slot mark

I was wondering how the poison works for detection. Detect pots are obviously a radius around the person who used it but the poisons sound like only works for the user and and I wonder about the range. Could be a poor mans (IE not night blade) mark

Waffennacht

technohic wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Aznox wrote: »

Voted for my own class, that way if i fail : no excuses !

... also why no Werewolf option ?

More seriously, i swear 1/3 of the opponents are Stamblade in some dueling or battle grounds.

I'm not worried too much about finding counters, we will, but the situation is a bit sad for game diversity.

The counter to NB is: NB. Mark target is pretty solid

Mark is good. I actually prefer detect pots to free up that bar slot for elemental drain though. Detect pots work fine for me. I just always run out and have to slot mark

I was wondering how the poison works for detection. Detect pots are obviously a radius around the person who used it but the poisons sound like only works for the user and and I wonder about the range. Could be a poor mans (IE not night blade) mark

But... Sacrifice cost increase Poisons for a detect Poison?

technohic

StamDen

Waffennacht wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Aznox wrote: »

Voted for my own class, that way if i fail : no excuses !

... also why no Werewolf option ?

More seriously, i swear 1/3 of the opponents are Stamblade in some dueling or battle grounds.

I'm not worried too much about finding counters, we will, but the situation is a bit sad for game diversity.

The counter to NB is: NB. Mark target is pretty solid

Mark is good. I actually prefer detect pots to free up that bar slot for elemental drain though. Detect pots work fine for me. I just always run out and have to slot mark

I was wondering how the poison works for detection. Detect pots are obviously a radius around the person who used it but the poisons sound like only works for the user and and I wonder about the range. Could be a poor mans (IE not night blade) mark

But... Sacrifice cost increase Poisons for a detect Poison?

Would have to be situational I suppose. Thinking about it; I am surprised how much cloak spam goes on with resource poisoning

Joy_Division

StamNB

Biro123 wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Sixty5 wrote: »

TFW my class has the least votes
FeelsBadMan

Vaoh wrote: »

I’m actually genuinely surprised ppl didn’t spam Mag Sorc because of how hated they’ve historically been.

Also we’ve had like what, only 1-2 threads asking to nerf Sorcs in the past few weeks?

These can’t be the ESO Forums....

People are actually starting to realise that Mag Sorc already has been nerfed, and that other classes have been buffed up to superior positions.

Though I'm still waiting on the next Shield Stacking QQ thread

The most laughable threads were the ones saying that Mag Sorc got *buffed* when Crystal Frags lost its CC xD no I’m not joking..... there were a few threads about it and lots of ppl jumped on the Sorc hate bandwagon agreeing then every Sorc replaced Frags with Destructive Touch or finally switched classes.

But yeah the Shield Stacking QQ threads are good too.

In some ways though (on a very specific build) it is good that my frags isn't dishing out cc-immunity every time I use it so I can make sure that when when I really want to burst, runecage will stick. just wish they hadn't hammered the cost of runecage too...

Until you play a magplar, you will not know the pains of handing out free CC immunity.

ak_pvp

StamNB

Joy_Division wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Sixty5 wrote: »

TFW my class has the least votes
FeelsBadMan

Vaoh wrote: »

I’m actually genuinely surprised ppl didn’t spam Mag Sorc because of how hated they’ve historically been.

Also we’ve had like what, only 1-2 threads asking to nerf Sorcs in the past few weeks?

These can’t be the ESO Forums....

People are actually starting to realise that Mag Sorc already has been nerfed, and that other classes have been buffed up to superior positions.

Though I'm still waiting on the next Shield Stacking QQ thread

The most laughable threads were the ones saying that Mag Sorc got *buffed* when Crystal Frags lost its CC xD no I’m not joking..... there were a few threads about it and lots of ppl jumped on the Sorc hate bandwagon agreeing then every Sorc replaced Frags with Destructive Touch or finally switched classes.

But yeah the Shield Stacking QQ threads are good too.

In some ways though (on a very specific build) it is good that my frags isn't dishing out cc-immunity every time I use it so I can make sure that when when I really want to burst, runecage will stick. just wish they hadn't hammered the cost of runecage too...

Until you play a magplar, you will not know the pains of handing out free CC immunity.

How bout' we make a class that doesn't synergise with itself...

At all...

And then nerf what did work well.

Genius.

AngryOldMan

StamSorc

Stamsorc. Good mobility, good sustain. Bolt escape out of line of sight and use dark deal to restore stamina. Hurricane gives speed bonus and gives resistance plus does damage. Really fun to play. Good idea to have some magica to bolt escape and use dark deal.

MalakithAlamahdi

StamNB

Meanwhile my poor Templar has been getting nothing but nerfs and is still clucky af. I wonder when i'll start maining stam nb myself.

Bosov

StamNB

Stam warden is super strong and super tankie but when you avoid the dizzy+beetle+dawnbreaker combo they usually cant you. A stam nb might be squishy when they arent cloaked and/or shading/dodgerolling but they always have a chance of killing you. A quick crit suprise attack for high damage and the debuff, followed by a crit incap + defile + stun + damage boost and even 30k+ resist players are going to have a bad time.

mojomood

StamDen

Seraphayel wrote: »

Stam Nightblades make me angry. So easy to play yet so effective due to Surprise Attack and stealth (and their executes).

StamNB are strong, but not easy. Their class execute is usually not used in favor of 2H execute. They are a glass cannon. They kill quick and they die quick.

usmguy1234

StamNB

Basically any class with stealth or high mobility... so basically anything stam. Out of the stam specs nightblade is the true king.

mojomood

StamDen

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Aznox wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

The counter to NB is: NB. Mark target is pretty solid

Imagine the level of crying if this ability had been given to another class : all the NB would have floated out of Craglorn

Mark should have been a fighters guild or assault ability.

It would make nbs instantly balanced.

Done. Expert hunter. 5 seconds to detect, 3 of no cloak, can be reapplied. Detect Pots. Armor sets with Detection built in.

It's not that there isn't a counter, you just don't want to give anything up to have that counter. I wish there were more hard counters that forced build decisions.

Ragnarock41

StamNB

mojomood wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Aznox wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

The counter to NB is: NB. Mark target is pretty solid

Imagine the level of crying if this ability had been given to another class : all the NB would have floated out of Craglorn

Mark should have been a fighters guild or assault ability.

It would make nbs instantly balanced.

Done. Expert hunter. 5 seconds to detect, 3 of no cloak, can be reapplied. Detect Pots. Armor sets with Detection built in.

It's not that there isn't a counter, you just don't want to give anything up to have that counter. I wish there were more hard counters that forced build decisions.

Except expert hunter is crap and you know its crap too.