Which class is in the best place PvP-wise Q1 2018?

red_emu

Which class do you think is the most powerful in current patch? From PvP perspective. No crying for nerfs, just your opinions.

KingYogi415

Whichever class you are best at and have the most experience with.

Morgul667

StamNB

Id stay StamNB but whichever class you master, is the best

Neyane

StamNB

Stamblades/gankblades are what usually kill me almost instantly. The other classes don’t come close at all. I’d say stamdk as a close second though.

Skander

StamDen

StamNB is the easiest class to stack dmg with
StamDen is the easiest class to not die and have huge dmg with

Seraphayel

StamNB

Stam Nightblades make me angry. So easy to play yet so effective due to Surprise Attack and stealth (and their executes).

Apache_Kid

MagDK

Funny that I rarely seem to die to the NB gank combo unless I am not paying attention or don't have my controller in my hand. When I get hit by Incap, I have already broken free before my character's back even touches the ground. Yeah stamNB is the easiest class to get a high dmg counter on but it is also the easiest class to kill. Run any sort of detection tool such as magelight or detect pots (my personal favorite) and they are completely exposed for you to kill. That is as long as you survive the initial burst. The character that I die to stamblades the most on is my stamblade

I was almost tempted to pick Magplar but I think that's just because I've been playing a lot of BGs lately where they really seem to excel.

makreth

MagSorc

When you say pvp-wise do you just mean solo? Because when it comes to group gameplay I feel I have so much more to offer to a group with my magsorc..

Vapirko

StamDen

If you're looking for just all around success no matter what you're after (aside from straight up ranking), stamina warden. Theres just no matching the all around burst damage, tankiness, heals, utility skills, passives and access to major and minor buffs. That said I actually don't think they're OP but they are very well made. People can still suck at stamina warden, nothing beats skill. When equal skill levels are taken into considering the stamina warden definitely has an edge over some other classes. When it comes down to it however, the only classes that are really out of luck are stam sorc and stam dk, every other class has decent access to a range of skills and morphs both mag and stam.

TelvanniWizard

StamNB

Those damm gankers...

Qbiken

StamNB

Stamblades in no-CP

kojou

StamDen

Stamina Nightblades are annoying, but I would hardly call them the best all around. Stamina Wardens have a much more complete tool kit.

Priyasekarssk

StamNB

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Funny that I rarely seem to die to the NB gank combo unless I am not paying attention or don't have my controller in my hand. When I get hit by Incap, I have already broken free before my character's back even touches the ground. Yeah stamNB is the easiest class to get a high dmg counter on but it is also the easiest class to kill. Run any sort of detection tool such as magelight or detect pots (my personal favorite) and they are completely exposed for you to kill. That is as long as you survive the initial burst. The character that I die to stamblades the most on is my stamblade

I was almost tempted to pick Magplar but I think that's just because I've been playing a lot of BGs lately where they really seem to excel.

Then NB attacked you is a noob. Good NB in your back you are good as dead unless you have tank build with huge health. If he inflicts CC combined poison he has 2-3 seconds to kill you. Your only option is to die.

Beardimus

StamNB

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Apache_Kid

MagDK

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Funny that I rarely seem to die to the NB gank combo unless I am not paying attention or don't have my controller in my hand. When I get hit by Incap, I have already broken free before my character's back even touches the ground. Yeah stamNB is the easiest class to get a high dmg counter on but it is also the easiest class to kill. Run any sort of detection tool such as magelight or detect pots (my personal favorite) and they are completely exposed for you to kill. That is as long as you survive the initial burst. The character that I die to stamblades the most on is my stamblade

I was almost tempted to pick Magplar but I think that's just because I've been playing a lot of BGs lately where they really seem to excel.

Then NB attacked you is a noob. Good NB in your back you are good as dead unless you have tank build with huge health. If he inflicts CC combined poison he has 2-3 seconds to kill you. Your only option is to die.

I have many, many hours in PvP. I have gone against NBs of every skill level. Dying is not your only option. I can survive the incap and burst on my sorc without shields up as long as I am paying attention. After Incap, ive already broken free and applied a shield at the same time the NB has their next ability hitting me. I'm sorry I just don't have the issue with StamNBs that other players do. I find its a reflex/reaction time issue for those of you that have problems with surviving ganks. Yeah in Sotha Sil i've been ganked quite a few times but No-CP is a completely different animal if that is what you are talking about.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

StamDen

It's hard to give a straight answer. Not sure stamblades are the best, they are probably the most abundant but can be very easy to kill the majority of them.

For all the buff Magdk threads, they can be insanely good too. Magdk wrecks stamblades 1v1. Magdks can also 1vX decently, however unlike nightblades the magdk either wins it's fights or dies, whereas nightblades can reposition.
Biggest problem with magdk is getting the correct build, so difficult to do.

Stam wardens have a lot of good stuff going for them and can 1vpotatoes the best imo due to their burst, tankiness, ulti regen etc.

Savos_Saren

StamDen

It's a tie between StamNB and StamDen.

...though I will say I die mostly to Implosion when it comes to group fights. Damn that passive. (I secretly with mDKs had it!)

ZOS_Ragnar

We have removed a few comments that were baiting and non-productive. Please keep this discussion civil and constructive.

Priyasekarssk

StamNB

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Funny that I rarely seem to die to the NB gank combo unless I am not paying attention or don't have my controller in my hand. When I get hit by Incap, I have already broken free before my character's back even touches the ground. Yeah stamNB is the easiest class to get a high dmg counter on but it is also the easiest class to kill. Run any sort of detection tool such as magelight or detect pots (my personal favorite) and they are completely exposed for you to kill. That is as long as you survive the initial burst. The character that I die to stamblades the most on is my stamblade

I was almost tempted to pick Magplar but I think that's just because I've been playing a lot of BGs lately where they really seem to excel.

Then NB attacked you is a noob. Good NB in your back you are good as dead unless you have tank build with huge health. If he inflicts CC combined poison he has 2-3 seconds to kill you. Your only option is to die.

I have many, many hours in PvP. I have gone against NBs of every skill level. Dying is not your only option. I can survive the incap and burst on my sorc without shields up as long as I am paying attention. After Incap, ive already broken free and applied a shield at the same time the NB has their next ability hitting me. I'm sorry I just don't have the issue with StamNBs that other players do. I find its a reflex/reaction time issue for those of you that have problems with surviving ganks. Yeah in Sotha Sil i've been ganked quite a few times but No-CP is a completely different animal if that is what you are talking about.

You are joking right. You can break free first CC max . You cannot break the second CC. Dont say I can break 2 CCs in a row with potions. Once poison injected , your magicka & stamina is meh. Magicka sorcerer doesn't have that much stamina pool , adding once poison injected you are dead. Shields cannot save you. Good NB on your back you are good as dead. Just surviving some noobs NBs doesn't show anything. NB wins magicka sorc on 1v1 comfortably unless there is a skill difference in PVP area.

Yakidafi

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Funny that I rarely seem to die to the NB gank combo unless I am not paying attention or don't have my controller in my hand. When I get hit by Incap, I have already broken free before my character's back even touches the ground. Yeah stamNB is the easiest class to get a high dmg counter on but it is also the easiest class to kill. Run any sort of detection tool such as magelight or detect pots (my personal favorite) and they are completely exposed for you to kill. That is as long as you survive the initial burst. The character that I die to stamblades the most on is my stamblade

I was almost tempted to pick Magplar but I think that's just because I've been playing a lot of BGs lately where they really seem to excel.

Then NB attacked you is a noob. Good NB in your back you are good as dead unless you have tank build with huge health. If he inflicts CC combined poison he has 2-3 seconds to kill you. Your only option is to die.

I have many, many hours in PvP. I have gone against NBs of every skill level. Dying is not your only option. I can survive the incap and burst on my sorc without shields up as long as I am paying attention. After Incap, ive already broken free and applied a shield at the same time the NB has their next ability hitting me. I'm sorry I just don't have the issue with StamNBs that other players do. I find its a reflex/reaction time issue for those of you that have problems with surviving ganks. Yeah in Sotha Sil i've been ganked quite a few times but No-CP is a completely different animal if that is what you are talking about.

You are joking right. You can break free first CC max . You cannot break the second CC. Dont say I can break 2 CCs in a row with potions. Once poison injected , your magicka & stamina is meh. Magicka sorcerer doesn't have that much stamina pool , adding once poison injected you are dead. Shields cannot save you. Good NB on your back you are good as dead. Just surviving some noobs NBs doesn't show anything. NB wins magicka sorc on 1v1 comfortably unless there is a skill difference in PVP area.

What?

ak_pvp

StamNB

Depends. A MagDK can be top for duels, but is tied worst solo OW. A Magplar is top for groups, but again, one of the worst of OW solo.

Putting grouped, solo and duels together I'd say Stamden, magsorc, magblade and stamblade are all up there. Being good in at least two of: Group, solo OW and duels.

ak_pvp

StamNB

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Priyasekarssk

StamNB

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

CatchMeTrolling

StamNB

Since you said class, it’s not even a debate that nightblades as a whole are in first place.

thankyourat

StamDen

The best class is whatever class i fight and the worse class is whatever class I'm playing

Waffennacht

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Since you said class, it’s not even a debate that nightblades as a whole are in first place.

PhoenixGrey

StamDen

The god mode class

ak_pvp

StamNB

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Lol to the 4 selected MagSorc

Well they did say PvP, not specifically any part. Magsorcs still are good in duels (pets) and for groups. (Negate, fury, encase)

Magsorcs vs stamNB. StamNB win comfortably. Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe. in PVP area, your stamina pool is extremly low. As NB I have to inject drain stamina poison from bow. Spam cc. Often you can break 1 CC. Second CC , pray god and die. I can practice 100 ways of killing . Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka . You cannot avoid inevitable. Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.
StamNB have huge stamina pool. Fear >>>> encase. You can encase stamNB , In the end nothing will happen. StamNB break free with ease.
(Negate, fury, encase) is there anything which kills stamNB on duels in cyrodil ? Are you really serious ?

Pets in duals ? You are not serious I believe.

Why not? Pets are great in duels, close, ST, hard to kill, provides defense. etc. Only reason I liked played sorcs.

Do you know what you are on about at all? The only thing that double CCs you is knockback if they are not broken.

Shields are uselss in PVP area mostly you can only half shield for huge magicka.

Hardly, maybe in OW, sure. But they are one of the strongest for duels/1v1s because of lack of counters. Only very high hard pressure/oblivion goes through them, unlike getting a cloak user in a duel marked/detected.

Magicka sorc also lack instant reliable burst damage. Only rely on staff skills , its not enough. Pray for crystal frag to proc. NB has thousands of options for burst damange.

True, but doesn't change petsorc strength in a duel. Its still decent burst on a ST, its telegraphed asf, but with pets you can pressure and burst at the end. And use rune prison, its costly but its undodgable/blockable.

Subversus

MagSorc

jk

I'd pick a magblade or a magdk for duels or BGs, or just go with a stamden or a stamblade for literally anything and just tear ass.

IZZEFlameLash

StamNB

NBs are the best. StamNB especially can tear anyone apart and escape most of the times.

See a tank? Don't worry. StamNB will take care of it after 1 incap with defiles.

Sixty5

MagNB

TFW my class has the least votes
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