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[Speculation] Potential Summerset Chapter announcement/tease date in under two weeks
Thal_J
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This post is total and complete speculation, and is very long, but, based on what ZOS has done for Morrowind, I believe we could be seeing a tease or announcement date very soon. To start off with, I would like to point out the events that took place around the announcement of the Morrowind Chapter.
How was Morrowind Chapter announced?
When the Morrowind Chapter was first teased, it was teased on the 27th of January 2017, at the very end of the first housing ESO Live stream. The stream had absolutely nothing special in it, except for a small, 5 second clip of the Morrowind volcano background image as a teaser at the very end of the show. Immediately after that small tease, ZOS changed all of their social media pages to the same volcano teaser image, then they posted videos of the volcanic rock slowly opening up each day over the weekend. On Monday the week after, the volcanic rock had fully opened, showing lava, and they posted the announcement of Morrowind Chapter Announcement live stream on the 30st of January 2017. The day after, on the Tuesday, they had the Twitch event with Pete Hines and Rich Lambert announcing the Morrowind Chapter. There is precedent for Pete Hines to show up when ESO announces major expansions, for example, he was there when One Tamriel launched, and obviously he was there for Morrowind's launch too.
What if Summerset Chapter is delayed to Q3 instead of Q2?
Firstly, we have to consider that the Summerset Chapter is due to come out in Q2, and due to the sheer amount of datamined assets that has been uncovered, it looks like they're ready to pop. I do not think it would make sense for the Chapter to be delayed to Q3, as that will interfere with the next DLC's release schedule. Additionally, (you will have to take my word for this), in the last ESO Live, I believe someone asked in the twitch chat "Chapter announcement when"? To which (I think?) Jessica said "Chapter soon" or something to that effect. This says to me that they are on schedule with the Chapter release in Q2. It also should be mentioned that the next crown crate season is based around the Psijic Order, which is a group that is heavily involved in the story of the next chapter. Since new crown crate seasons are released every quarter, we expect to see this new season come with the Summerset Chapter.
Why do you believe we will get a Summerset announcement in March?
There are two main reasons. I noticed on the german side on the forums, there is a post about a ESO meetup in Frankfurt on Wednesday 21st March. As you can see here, KaiSchober says (translated):
Kai is saying that an event that was previously earlier on in the week is now scheduled for midweek instead. This could of course be a random meet up event, and the reason for the delay could be completely innocent, but for reasons I will get into later, I believe this could indeed be related to a Summerset Chapter announcement in that week. As you know, Chapters, from what we've seen with Morrowind, are large expansion-like releases, with new disc box art, and a large hype window in order to get as many pre-orders as possible. Additionally, Morrowind had quite a large PTS window, a month and 11 days to be exact. This brings me onto my second reason:
ZOS have a maximum of around 3.7 months from now to announce, hype, PTS test and finally release this chapter before they miss their Q2 deadline. If they don't announce it soon, they will likely not make it for the Q2 release, which as I said before, I believe is unlikely to happen. Therefore, I believe it is very likely they will announce in March.
Assuming that the PTS cycle for this chapter is the same as Morrowind, and that the early access release date of this chapter will be mid June, that gives ZOS 1.8 months from now to announce and hype up the Summerset chapter before the PTS release starts, this seems like a decent amount if we take into consideration that Morrowind was hyped extremely early for nostalgia reasons, as well as the fact it was ESO's first chapter.
For reference, Morrowind had 3 months worth of hype before the eventual PTS closed beta announcement. Obviously, ZOS has wanted to give the Dragon Bones DLC its own breathing room in order to maximise profits, it would not make sense to announce a new chapter at the same time as hyping up a new dungeon DLC. If the week of March 21st is indeed the announcement date, then that would mean that the chapter is announced three weeks after the console release of Dragon Bones, which is fairly respectable if you ask me. There is a large enough gap between the console release of Dragon Bones and the supposed announcement of the Summerset Chapter that most console users will have played and or/bought the dungeon pack already.
How do you think Summerset Chapter will be announced?
I believe on next week's ESO live episode (3 days before announcing the livestream, if they follow the Morrowind formula), they will have a Summerset teaser at the very end of the episode. They will then likely swap all of their social media to an image based on that teaser, and will slowly begin hyping the chapter up until they announce the livestream on the Monday the following week. Then sometime during that week, they will show the summerset reveal livestream, and the event in Frankfurt will probably have the first details on Summerset, perhaps a playable demo depending on if the announcement livestream comes before or after it.
Am I on the right track or do you think they'll wait longer to announce? It'd sure be funny and also disappointing if all of this turns out to be incorrect and they don't announce anything lol.
Edited by Thal_J on March 9, 2018 11:47PM How was Morrowind Chapter announced?
When the Morrowind Chapter was first teased, it was teased on the 27th of January 2017, at the very end of the first housing ESO Live stream. The stream had absolutely nothing special in it, except for a small, 5 second clip of the Morrowind volcano background image as a teaser at the very end of the show. Immediately after that small tease, ZOS changed all of their social media pages to the same volcano teaser image, then they posted videos of the volcanic rock slowly opening up each day over the weekend. On Monday the week after, the volcanic rock had fully opened, showing lava, and they posted the announcement of Morrowind Chapter Announcement live stream on the 30st of January 2017. The day after, on the Tuesday, they had the Twitch event with Pete Hines and Rich Lambert announcing the Morrowind Chapter. There is precedent for Pete Hines to show up when ESO announces major expansions, for example, he was there when One Tamriel launched, and obviously he was there for Morrowind's launch too.
What if Summerset Chapter is delayed to Q3 instead of Q2?
Firstly, we have to consider that the Summerset Chapter is due to come out in Q2, and due to the sheer amount of datamined assets that has been uncovered, it looks like they're ready to pop. I do not think it would make sense for the Chapter to be delayed to Q3, as that will interfere with the next DLC's release schedule. Additionally, (you will have to take my word for this), in the last ESO Live, I believe someone asked in the twitch chat "Chapter announcement when"? To which (I think?) Jessica said "Chapter soon" or something to that effect. This says to me that they are on schedule with the Chapter release in Q2. It also should be mentioned that the next crown crate season is based around the Psijic Order, which is a group that is heavily involved in the story of the next chapter. Since new crown crate seasons are released every quarter, we expect to see this new season come with the Summerset Chapter.
Why do you believe we will get a Summerset announcement in March?
There are two main reasons. I noticed on the german side on the forums, there is a post about a ESO meetup in Frankfurt on Wednesday 21st March. As you can see here, KaiSchober says (translated):
For reasons that I will explain later, we are scheduled for Wednesday, March 21st.
I'm sorry it has to be midweek. I hope that many can set it up anyway.
Kai is saying that an event that was previously earlier on in the week is now scheduled for midweek instead. This could of course be a random meet up event, and the reason for the delay could be completely innocent, but for reasons I will get into later, I believe this could indeed be related to a Summerset Chapter announcement in that week. As you know, Chapters, from what we've seen with Morrowind, are large expansion-like releases, with new disc box art, and a large hype window in order to get as many pre-orders as possible. Additionally, Morrowind had quite a large PTS window, a month and 11 days to be exact. This brings me onto my second reason:
ZOS have a maximum of around 3.7 months from now to announce, hype, PTS test and finally release this chapter before they miss their Q2 deadline. If they don't announce it soon, they will likely not make it for the Q2 release, which as I said before, I believe is unlikely to happen. Therefore, I believe it is very likely they will announce in March.
Assuming that the PTS cycle for this chapter is the same as Morrowind, and that the early access release date of this chapter will be mid June, that gives ZOS 1.8 months from now to announce and hype up the Summerset chapter before the PTS release starts, this seems like a decent amount if we take into consideration that Morrowind was hyped extremely early for nostalgia reasons, as well as the fact it was ESO's first chapter.
For reference, Morrowind had 3 months worth of hype before the eventual PTS closed beta announcement. Obviously, ZOS has wanted to give the Dragon Bones DLC its own breathing room in order to maximise profits, it would not make sense to announce a new chapter at the same time as hyping up a new dungeon DLC. If the week of March 21st is indeed the announcement date, then that would mean that the chapter is announced three weeks after the console release of Dragon Bones, which is fairly respectable if you ask me. There is a large enough gap between the console release of Dragon Bones and the supposed announcement of the Summerset Chapter that most console users will have played and or/bought the dungeon pack already.
How do you think Summerset Chapter will be announced?
I believe on next week's ESO live episode (3 days before announcing the livestream, if they follow the Morrowind formula), they will have a Summerset teaser at the very end of the episode. They will then likely swap all of their social media to an image based on that teaser, and will slowly begin hyping the chapter up until they announce the livestream on the Monday the following week. Then sometime during that week, they will show the summerset reveal livestream, and the event in Frankfurt will probably have the first details on Summerset, perhaps a playable demo depending on if the announcement livestream comes before or after it.
Am I on the right track or do you think they'll wait longer to announce? It'd sure be funny and also disappointing if all of this turns out to be incorrect and they don't announce anything lol.
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Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭its gonna be announced this month I feel as well, they want to target the summer crowdEdited by Aliyavana on March 9, 2018 9:01PM3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The announcement is so last thread. Like oh em gee so over it.
Now I'm more curious now if, keeping with the name, they're aiming to go live with it on the first day of summer.
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✭✭✭✭✭I dread to think of Summerset not coming out soon. My heart could not take it, I would vanish into nothingness, slowly yet steady.Auri-El is my lord,
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fioskal✭✭✭I think it'll be announced soon, within the next couple weeks.
I'm pretty hyped already though, not gonna lie.
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✭I read that they'll have playtest stuff set up for their April 7th PAX East stuff, so they would need to be teasing new content for there to be stuff to playtest, so that will likely be testing content from the new chapter.
The anniversary is on april 4th, as well, so maybe they could make it an anniversary announcement?
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✭✭✭✭✭Another great post @Arko_Nam_La.
I agree. I was pretty sure we would get the announcement/teaser last week but it didn't happen. It's about time to announce Chapter II and I really hope it happens in the next 1-2 weeks.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -2 -
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✭✭✭✭Now I'm more curious now if, keeping with the name, they're aiming to go live with it on the first day of summer.
Summer solstice is 6:07 AM Eastern on Thursday, June 21. I mean, I'd go for it if only because this may be the one chance to do it...
That would be cool, but given how they passed over the absolutely perfect setup for the Witches' Festival last year...#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
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MarrazzMist✭✭✭✭Yes, next week is perfect time for announcement, as latest dlc has been out for consoles for a few weeks by then.
Last year they were hyping both Homestead and Morrowind at the same time, another approach this time.Edited by MarrazzMist on March 9, 2018 11:36PM0 -
Thal_J✭✭✭✭just saw this, I don't know if this could mean anything:
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26331
the daedric prince outfit event, ends on the sunday before the week I speculated that the announcement could take place.
I am thinking it could be related to the Daedric Triad, (Clavicus Vile, Mephala, Nocturnal) which are a big part of the story, then again they've done random events like this in the past.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭All these "Summerset will be announced" prediction threads are starting to sound like a bunch of end-times prophets predicting the return of Jesus and then having to recalculate their dates...I really hate to explain the joke, but since I've had two people respond seriously to this, I'll clarify. Its obvious that Summerset Isles is the next chapter. We know its coming just like those end-times prophets are so sure Jesus is coming back someday. But like those end-times prophets who foolishly predict a day and then awkwardly try to recalculate when the day comes and goes, we've had a bunch of forum threads trying to predict a date for the announcement of Summerset...that don't seem to be doing any better than the end-times prophets about getting the date right.Edited by VaranisArano on March 11, 2018 4:41PM5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »All these "Summerset will be announced" prediction threads are starting to sound like a bunch of end-times prophets predixting the return of Jesus and then having to recalculate their dates...
There is no debate about "Summerset will be announced". Summerset is the next Chapter. The question is when will they announce it.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »All these "Summerset will be announced" prediction threads are starting to sound like a bunch of end-times prophets predixting the return of Jesus and then having to recalculate their dates...
There is no debate about "Summerset will be announced". Summerset is the next Chapter. The question is when will they announce it.
Those end-times propehts don't have any doubt that Jesus is returning either, but they don't seem very good at predicting the date of it, now do they?
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✭✭✭✭✭Elfdominion4 wrote: »March 14 announced
What?PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
Thal_J✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Elfdominion4 wrote: »March 14 announced
What?
the ESO website is under maintenance then• ESO Website for maintenance – March 14, 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
however I think this is probably merely an update for the new crown crates, since they come out march 153 -
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✭VaranisArano wrote: »All these "Summerset will be announced" prediction threads are starting to sound like a bunch of end-times prophets predixting the return of Jesus and then having to recalculate their dates...
Prophecy? About me?
"Dreaming... One netch. Two netch... Prophecy complete.
I see an island. A tower. Three princes. Darkness spreading across the land. I see a golden knight and an unexpected sacrifice. I see... an end..."
That doesn't sound good.
"Everything must perish. That is the way of all reality. But the end that I see... you can alter the outcome. The variables indicate a minuscule percentage point in your favor."
So there is a way to change the future.
"A chance... Lord Seht and the Three willing.
Reflecting... reflecting... probabilities calculated... odds generated... demise certainty... ninety-nine point nine-nine percent. And Summerset is the sequence of the words."
it is known.2 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Arko_Nam_La wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Elfdominion4 wrote: »March 14 announced
What?
the ESO website is under maintenance then• ESO Website for maintenance – March 14, 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
however I think this is probably merely an update for the new crown crates, since they come out march 15
Well, is the website always down when we get new crown crates? Don't know that. Maybe something like the Morrowind lava background is coming?PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -1 -
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✭✭✭I imagine they'll need the next Chapter to go live around July 4 to compete with the CU beta.Invictus
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Vanthras79✭✭✭✭✭Truthfully I am starving for news:
Edited by Vanthras79 on March 11, 2018 3:31PMNorion Germain - Telvanni Wizard, Covenant Battle Mage, Mage's Guild Magister, Resident of Daggerfall Overlook, Lord of Tel Galen, Psijic Monk, Antiquarian, Breton Scholar, and Traveler.1 -
Thal_J✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Arko_Nam_La wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Elfdominion4 wrote: »March 14 announced
What?
the ESO website is under maintenance then• ESO Website for maintenance – March 14, 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
however I think this is probably merely an update for the new crown crates, since they come out march 15
Well, is the website always down when we get new crown crates? Don't know that. Maybe something like the Morrowind lava background is coming?
well, the website was very recently changed so that the "Morrowind" chapter part is no longer the main focus. if you remember, before, the site had the homepage such that it that looked like this page, now they no longer redirect you to that page, instead they have the generic homepage with the small morrowind chapter part at the top.
I believe it was like this just before they launched the redesign, too, so I definitely think they're gearing up for the chapter release slowly, but I'm not certain that this new site update will be related to Summerset, we shall see.Edited by Thal_J on March 11, 2018 3:32PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭TheNuminous1 wrote: »Reflecting... reflecting... probabilities calculated... odds generated... demise certainty... ninety-nine point nine-nine percent.
Did anyone else think those odds were a little optimistic? I figure I'm probably going to die multiple times - falling to my death because I misjudged a cliff if nothing else.
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✭✭✭✭✭March or PAX East (April 5 – 8)
PAX is still so far away... I think it would be smarter to announce it before PAX and give us a playable version during PAX. If they really announce it on PAX they need to roll out pre orders and PTS very quickly.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TheNuminous1 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »All these "Summerset will be announced" prediction threads are starting to sound like a bunch of end-times prophets predixting the return of Jesus and then having to recalculate their dates...
Prophecy? About me?
"Dreaming... One netch. Two netch... Prophecy complete.
I see an island. A tower. Three princes. Darkness spreading across the land. I see a golden knight and an unexpected sacrifice. I see... an end..."
That doesn't sound good.
"Everything must perish. That is the way of all reality. But the end that I see... you can alter the outcome. The variables indicate a minuscule percentage point in your favor."
So there is a way to change the future.
"A chance... Lord Seht and the Three willing.
Reflecting... reflecting... probabilities calculated... odds generated... demise certainty... ninety-nine point nine-nine percent. And Summerset is the sequence of the words."
it is known.
Yeah, no duh its known. But these speculation threads about which date ZOS will announce it? Those are pretty much pie-in-the-sky end-times prophets going "Jesus will return on this date at this hour" and awkward fading away once that date passes...
I've updated the original comment with an explanation of the joke, because you're the second person who's responded to it seriously.Edited by VaranisArano on March 11, 2018 4:43PM0 -
jeskah✭✭✭Arko_Nam_La wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Elfdominion4 wrote: »March 14 announced
What?
the ESO website is under maintenance then• ESO Website for maintenance – March 14, 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
however I think this is probably merely an update for the new crown crates, since they come out march 15
Store maintenance is also scheduled for 14... website maintenance is maybe for a new theme, closed beta forums, etc.
At least i hope so
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