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Goodbye for Miats?

  • Ydrisselle
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    i was in Vivec yesterday and snuck up on Miat then ganked him. Apparently his update is not working that well.

    It's working, but it doesn't notify anybody.
  • CaliMade
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    LordSemaj wrote: »
    CaliMade wrote: »
    I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

    The app wasn't banned at all. They just removed the ability for mods to notify people of attacks before they get hit with them.

    The app still exists and works fine. It just doesn't yell at you and say "HEY THERE'S AN ARROW COMING THIS WAY DODGE IN 3...2...1... NOW!"

    Additionally, literally every class can gank from stealth. It's a common ability that everyone has access to. Nightblades simply have a little extra stealth damage and the ability to reenter it during combat.


    Regardless if everyone can use stealth or not its still toxic imo. Game would be better without it.
    Edited by CaliMade on February 13, 2018 3:17PM
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  • Stovahkiin
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    CaliMade wrote: »
    I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

    Oh look, someone else who got ganked once and now thinks that nightblades should be removed completely.

    1.This is far from being the only game that has a stealth/ganker class.

    2. As I’ve had to say before, being a nightblade and ganking with it does not make you an “insta-winner”. Gankers get destroyed all the time, you just gotta know how to counter them.

    Just because you don’t like the class doesn’t mean that it’s “holding the game back” and should be removed. By that logic, I think unkillable DK tanks are holding the game back, remove Dragonknights ZOS!!
    Edited by Stovahkiin on February 13, 2018 3:44PM
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • oXI_Viper_IXo
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    CaliMade wrote: »
    LordSemaj wrote: »
    CaliMade wrote: »
    I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

    The app wasn't banned at all. They just removed the ability for mods to notify people of attacks before they get hit with them.

    The app still exists and works fine. It just doesn't yell at you and say "HEY THERE'S AN ARROW COMING THIS WAY DODGE IN 3...2...1... NOW!"

    Additionally, literally every class can gank from stealth. It's a common ability that everyone has access to. Nightblades simply have a little extra stealth damage and the ability to reenter it during combat.


    Regardless if everyone can use stealth or not its still toxic imo. Game would be better without it.

    So it's toxic just because you are unable to properly counter it? Stealth is broken by a multitude of different things. It's the class-defining skill of nightblades and adds a tiny bit of survivability they so desperately need. By your logic, any skill that you haven't learned to properly counter is "toxic."
  • Ley
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    Looking forward to PvP this weekend.
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    CaliMade wrote: »
    LordSemaj wrote: »
    CaliMade wrote: »
    I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

    The app wasn't banned at all. They just removed the ability for mods to notify people of attacks before they get hit with them.

    The app still exists and works fine. It just doesn't yell at you and say "HEY THERE'S AN ARROW COMING THIS WAY DODGE IN 3...2...1... NOW!"

    Additionally, literally every class can gank from stealth. It's a common ability that everyone has access to. Nightblades simply have a little extra stealth damage and the ability to reenter it during combat.


    Regardless if everyone can use stealth or not its still toxic imo. Game would be better without it.

    So it's toxic just because you are unable to properly counter it? Stealth is broken by a multitude of different things. It's the class-defining skill of nightblades and adds a tiny bit of survivability they so desperately need. By your logic, any skill that you haven't learned to properly counter is "toxic."

    You sound very much like a sorcerer back before the bolt escape nerf/cost increase penalty. Or a DK before the plethora of nerfs to their class abilities. There are no sacred cows in a Wrobel world.
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  • Tan9oSuccka
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    CaliMade wrote: »
    LordSemaj wrote: »
    CaliMade wrote: »
    I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

    The app wasn't banned at all. They just removed the ability for mods to notify people of attacks before they get hit with them.

    The app still exists and works fine. It just doesn't yell at you and say "HEY THERE'S AN ARROW COMING THIS WAY DODGE IN 3...2...1... NOW!"

    Additionally, literally every class can gank from stealth. It's a common ability that everyone has access to. Nightblades simply have a little extra stealth damage and the ability to reenter it during combat.


    Regardless if everyone can use stealth or not its still toxic imo. Game would be better without it.

    I disagree. I think it would empower zergs even more.

    So many green bars see any enemy keep flag and rush to the fight. Zerg blob grows.

    Having a squad of a few gankers can strategically thin the herd or if nothing else reroute reinforcements.

    I love baiting dummies away with my nightblade.
    Of course I like steak. I'm a Nord, aren't I?
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  • Emmagoldman
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    Wonder what the next thing PVP cry's about will be.

    Daaang, you sad cry baby. You must be MANLY. MUST SHOW HOW MANLY I AM ON FORUMS!!!!

    People want competitive pvp, its simple. Nothing to do with manly, cry baby, snowflake, or any term thrown around by people in our keyboard warrior epoch of history. Please tell my why more competitive play makes one a cry baby.

    Brb, need my markers so I can draw on rock solid abs to up my machismo
  • shinikaze
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    CaliMade wrote: »
    LordSemaj wrote: »
    CaliMade wrote: »
    I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

    The app wasn't banned at all. They just removed the ability for mods to notify people of attacks before they get hit with them.

    The app still exists and works fine. It just doesn't yell at you and say "HEY THERE'S AN ARROW COMING THIS WAY DODGE IN 3...2...1... NOW!"

    Additionally, literally every class can gank from stealth. It's a common ability that everyone has access to. Nightblades simply have a little extra stealth damage and the ability to reenter it during combat.


    Regardless if everyone can use stealth or not its still toxic imo. Game would be better without it.

    Tanks that heal and deal lots of damage with endless sutain is way more toxic playstyle in my opinion.
  • Samadhi
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    CaliMade wrote: »
    LordSemaj wrote: »
    CaliMade wrote: »
    I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

    The app wasn't banned at all. They just removed the ability for mods to notify people of attacks before they get hit with them.

    The app still exists and works fine. It just doesn't yell at you and say "HEY THERE'S AN ARROW COMING THIS WAY DODGE IN 3...2...1... NOW!"

    Additionally, literally every class can gank from stealth. It's a common ability that everyone has access to. Nightblades simply have a little extra stealth damage and the ability to reenter it during combat.


    Regardless if everyone can use stealth or not its still toxic imo. Game would be better without it.

    Most 'toxic' aspect of ganking
    is that people routinely insult and degrade those who use a game mechanic as intended
    because they do not want to utilize any of the numerous counter mechanics available

    Even with Miat's tweaked to no longer circumvent stealth mechanics
    the in-game counters are still present
    skilled players will be fine
    "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
    Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
  • Dojohoda
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    Yep, added snipe to skill bar, landed snipe on players. Amazing
    Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
    Might be joking in comments.
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  • CaliMade
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    CaliMade wrote: »
    LordSemaj wrote: »
    CaliMade wrote: »
    I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

    The app wasn't banned at all. They just removed the ability for mods to notify people of attacks before they get hit with them.

    The app still exists and works fine. It just doesn't yell at you and say "HEY THERE'S AN ARROW COMING THIS WAY DODGE IN 3...2...1... NOW!"

    Additionally, literally every class can gank from stealth. It's a common ability that everyone has access to. Nightblades simply have a little extra stealth damage and the ability to reenter it during combat.


    Regardless if everyone can use stealth or not its still toxic imo. Game would be better without it.

    Most 'toxic' aspect of ganking
    is that people routinely insult and degrade those who use a game mechanic as intended
    because they do not want to utilize any of the numerous counter mechanics available

    Even with Miat's tweaked to no longer circumvent stealth mechanics
    the in-game counters are still present
    skilled players will be fine


    Never said i dont use counters

    Never said i wasnt skilled enough to deal with it.

    I dont like stealth in ESO, weather i can or cant handle it doesnt matter. I still think it is a detriment to the game, and regardless if how many players use it skillfully or not i still find it a toxic playstyle imo.
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    Brigadier Stam/magblade (whatever i feel like running) Redguard

    Major Mag DK Dark Elf

    lieutenant Mag/stamplar (whatever i feel like running) Redguard
  • Samadhi
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    CaliMade wrote: »
    Samadhi wrote: »
    CaliMade wrote: »
    LordSemaj wrote: »
    CaliMade wrote: »
    I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

    The app wasn't banned at all. They just removed the ability for mods to notify people of attacks before they get hit with them.

    The app still exists and works fine. It just doesn't yell at you and say "HEY THERE'S AN ARROW COMING THIS WAY DODGE IN 3...2...1... NOW!"

    Additionally, literally every class can gank from stealth. It's a common ability that everyone has access to. Nightblades simply have a little extra stealth damage and the ability to reenter it during combat.


    Regardless if everyone can use stealth or not its still toxic imo. Game would be better without it.

    Most 'toxic' aspect of ganking
    is that people routinely insult and degrade those who use a game mechanic as intended
    because they do not want to utilize any of the numerous counter mechanics available

    Even with Miat's tweaked to no longer circumvent stealth mechanics
    the in-game counters are still present
    skilled players will be fine


    Never said i dont use counters

    Never said i wasnt skilled enough to deal with it.
    ...

    Never made either of those statements about you, either
    had already presumed such, as you did not have access to Miat's in the first place, according to your signature

    My statements remains accurate
    CaliMade wrote: »
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    I dont like stealth in ESO, weather i can or cant handle it doesnt matter. I still think it is a detriment to the game, and regardless if how many players use it skillfully or not i still find it a toxic playstyle imo.

    Well, at least we are in agreement on something here
    Whether you can or cant handle stealth does not matter, as it was never called into question
    That you do not like it whether or not you can handle it does not matter either tho --
    your personal feelings cannot be the basis for a definition of community toxicity

    It is fine to dislike stealth ganking -- personally dislike it so much that gank-hunting is my main pasttime in Cyrodiil
    It is fine to dislike that other players enjoy mechanics you do not -- you seem to fall in here, and personally respect that

    Can respect that you dislike how stealth works in this game
    you disliking it does not make the playstyle toxic
    people who direct their dislike for the playstyle outward and degrade other players for it is toxic however

    this community already has issues with people who actually have a negative impact on the game and community
    like exploiters and botters

    People playing the game using legitimate mechanics is not toxic -- it is players having fun in the manner the game has been programmed for
    "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
    Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Wonder what the next thing PVP cry's about will be.

    PvE carebears trying to make PvP responsible for everything

    Eh.

    Probably not everything, but the majority of the worst PVE nerfs were with PVP in mind.

    Wrath, anyone? And look how well -that- turned out.

    Denying any involvement is as ignorant as claiming total involvement.
    Edited by Doctordarkspawn on February 13, 2018 6:28PM
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Dojohoda wrote: »
    Yep, added snipe to skill bar, landed snipe on players. Amazing

    Well that makes sense. How would you ever land snipe, when it wasn’t even on your skill bar?
  • Dojohoda
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    Dojohoda wrote: »
    Yep, added snipe to skill bar, landed snipe on players. Amazing

    Well that makes sense. How would you ever land snipe, when it wasn’t even on your skill bar?

    Whoops, you got me. :D
    Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
    Might be joking in comments.
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  • Kolache
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    Probably not everything, but the majority of the worst PVE nerfs were with PVP in mind.

    Probably because NPCs don't give a sh** if something is broken/OP.
    Something being unbalanced in 1v1 does not imply that it is balanced in group play.
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    You know what makes people use things like Miat's? People feeling it's alright to land a combo from stealth that prevents any retaliation.

    I do hope that the next step will be to reduce damage from stealth to 50% of normal. Oh, and can only crit if unstealthed. Now that would be nice.

    :trollface:
    Edited by Leandor on February 13, 2018 6:54PM
  • Kuramas9tails
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    CaliMade wrote: »
    I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.
    That's the point of an "ASSASSIN" class. Nightblades are assassins. Our passives and skills rely on stealth. We have an "Assassin" skill tree. One of our passives is called "Master Assassin". Did you know our spell damage and weapon damage is increased while in stealth for NBs? To say it's a toxic mechanic is foolish. I get ganked all the time but I have learned to listen and "dodge" their attack and shield up. If you still die on the daily to multiple gank attempts, you are doing something wrong like not keeping your shield/buffs up because gankers watch peoples health bars. They wont attack just anyone so you are a tempting pice of meat that is easy to kill. There are several alternatives to fighting a ganker. Don't be lazy and just cry about it. B)
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      vamp_emily wrote: »
      i was in Vivec yesterday and snuck up on Miat then ganked him. Apparently his update is not working that well.

      You’re my new hero Emily. :lol: This post made my day.
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      CaliMade wrote: »
      LordSemaj wrote: »
      CaliMade wrote: »
      I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

      The app wasn't banned at all. They just removed the ability for mods to notify people of attacks before they get hit with them.

      The app still exists and works fine. It just doesn't yell at you and say "HEY THERE'S AN ARROW COMING THIS WAY DODGE IN 3...2...1... NOW!"

      Additionally, literally every class can gank from stealth. It's a common ability that everyone has access to. Nightblades simply have a little extra stealth damage and the ability to reenter it during combat.


      Regardless if everyone can use stealth or not its still toxic imo. Game would be better without it.

      Very true. Stealth must have been one of the worst disservices the devs have done pvp.
    • CaliMade
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      Samadhi wrote: »
      CaliMade wrote: »
      Samadhi wrote: »
      CaliMade wrote: »
      LordSemaj wrote: »
      CaliMade wrote: »
      I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

      The app wasn't banned at all. They just removed the ability for mods to notify people of attacks before they get hit with them.

      The app still exists and works fine. It just doesn't yell at you and say "HEY THERE'S AN ARROW COMING THIS WAY DODGE IN 3...2...1... NOW!"

      Additionally, literally every class can gank from stealth. It's a common ability that everyone has access to. Nightblades simply have a little extra stealth damage and the ability to reenter it during combat.


      Regardless if everyone can use stealth or not its still toxic imo. Game would be better without it.

      Most 'toxic' aspect of ganking
      is that people routinely insult and degrade those who use a game mechanic as intended
      because they do not want to utilize any of the numerous counter mechanics available

      Even with Miat's tweaked to no longer circumvent stealth mechanics
      the in-game counters are still present
      skilled players will be fine


      Never said i dont use counters

      Never said i wasnt skilled enough to deal with it.
      ...

      Never made either of those statements about you, either
      had already presumed such, as you did not have access to Miat's in the first place, according to your signature

      My statements remains accurate
      CaliMade wrote: »
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      I dont like stealth in ESO, weather i can or cant handle it doesnt matter. I still think it is a detriment to the game, and regardless if how many players use it skillfully or not i still find it a toxic playstyle imo.

      Well, at least we are in agreement on something here
      Whether you can or cant handle stealth does not matter, as it was never called into question
      That you do not like it whether or not you can handle it does not matter either tho --
      your personal feelings cannot be the basis for a definition of community toxicity

      It is fine to dislike stealth ganking -- personally dislike it so much that gank-hunting is my main pasttime in Cyrodiil
      It is fine to dislike that other players enjoy mechanics you do not -- you seem to fall in here, and personally respect that

      Can respect that you dislike how stealth works in this game
      you disliking it does not make the playstyle toxic
      people who direct their dislike for the playstyle outward and degrade other players for it is toxic however

      this community already has issues with people who actually have a negative impact on the game and community
      like exploiters and botters

      People playing the game using legitimate mechanics is not toxic -- it is players having fun in the manner the game has been programmed for


      I was responding to multiple posts by others not just yours, some of witch said that i dont use counters and i cant deal with gankers.

      Stealth isnt toxic because i dont like it.
      I dont like stealth because its toxic.


      Half these PUGs that run people over are players who feel they arent good enough to play small scale or solo because of Gankers. They go out and get hit with 17k incaps or leaps or soul assaults from stealth, they get dysynced by snipe and cant do anything about it. Yeah they get destroyed by non stealthed players also but at that point theres a clear lesson to learn from what bodied you. You come in Pvp and you instantly die to someone you cant see nor hear and all it tells you is that there are players that can kill you before you are even aware of thier presence. You cant take any valuable information away from being ganked from stealth. You cant react, you cant instinctivley use a detect pot to exspose them unless you already know they are near, your not going to walk aroung spamming AOE’s everywhere you go. Your going to join a PUG because there are more people around you and hopefully one of them can help if the ganker comes out of stealth.

      As far as cloak, its buggy for the nightblade and his opponent. Ive been in plenty of fights where nightblades cloak in my hurricane and get away. i use volatile armor and they cloak the second it hits them yeilding no solid progress at pulling them out of stealth. My leaps and DBs get cloaked all the time somehow. Jabs with its crappy hitbox isnt going to get the job done trust me.

      And we all know the hard counters, Radiant magelight, Detect pots/poisons, Revealing flare, Caltrops, RoR for templars. All they do is destroy the class that depends on it.

      You ever fight a nightblade while using detect pots and detect poisons? Its by far the most oppressive thing in the game.

      Invisibility and its history in games either has it too weak or too strong. Its a mechanic that i wish games would just give up on in multiplayer.

      In eso there are far too many things that render it overpowered and too many things that render it useless. There are no situations were its actually balaced, just because a class depends on it dosent justify it overperforming in certain senarios, such as hitting a 10k heavy, 7k snipe, and a 11k incap on someone who cant see you and isnt even aware of your presence. And smart play shouldnt justify completely removing a classes only survival mechanic.

      This forces the people who have seen it in its most overpowered state to label it a broken, skill-less mechanic.
      And those who have seen its most underpowered state to call those people bad and tell them to L2P. Toxicity.


      I dont think cloak or stealth is skill-less, but i do think an Invisibility mechanic in any PVP game will divide players harder than any other broken , over/underpowered mechanic in the game.



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      Praetorian Stam DK Redguard

      Brigadier Stam/magblade (whatever i feel like running) Redguard

      Major Mag DK Dark Elf

      lieutenant Mag/stamplar (whatever i feel like running) Redguard
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      Mia-what now
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      Did the change only effect PvP areas? Cause I know there's a similar PvE add-on (raid notifier) that I would love if it got neutered as well.
    • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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      Stovahkiin wrote: »
      CaliMade wrote: »
      I dont even play PC and it disgusts me that this app actually got banned. I also understand it did more than just stop ganks but they could have had regulations for it put in.Im am 100% apposed to ganking and fully belive stealth and the class that depends on it holds this game back. Ganking from stealth is such a toxic mechanic.

      Oh look, someone else who got ganked once and now thinks that nightblades should be removed completely.

      1.This is far from being the only game that has a stealth/ganker class.

      2. As I’ve had to say before, being a nightblade and ganking with it does not make you an “insta-winner”. Gankers get destroyed all the time, you just gotta know how to counter them.

      Just because you don’t like the class doesn’t mean that it’s “holding the game back” and should be removed. By that logic, I think unkillable DK tanks are holding the game back, remove Dragonknights ZOS!!

      While they at it, can they get rid of Sorcerers and Stamina Wardens too, just because.... B)
      "We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."
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      Too tired to respond to the whole biased post, one could just as well say: "I dislike permablockers, blocking should be removed from the game because they're quote unquote... ""toxic""

      However...
      CaliMade wrote: »
      You cant take any valuable information away from being ganked from stealth.

      ...that is just strictly false.

      The information you can take away from dying to a stealth burst are the damage numbers, and the damage numbers let you know how much more health/impen/certain CPs you need to survive in PvP.
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      vamp_emily wrote: »
      i was in Vivec yesterday and snuck up on Miat then ganked him. Apparently his update is not working that well.

      Maybe he was afk or chatting with a friend? ^^
    • LordSemaj
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      The majority of people I see complaining in game about gankers have the same common problem.

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      Stacking stamina or magicka and ignoring health entirely works in a PVE setting where the tank is taking all the heavy damage and a healer is keeping you alive against constant predictable damage, and even then you have to dodge stuff constantly to stay alive. It doesn't work in a PVP environment where the damage is random, the tank can't hold aggro, the healer is trying to cleanse you of Major Defile, and you decided to show up with no anti-crit gear.
      Edited by LordSemaj on February 13, 2018 7:42PM
    • A_G_G_R_O
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      Haha, man had quite a few gankblades come out of the wood work last night, for the most part they summarily were put back in the dirt where their filth belongs with minimal resistance. I will say my dressing room was messed up with warden abilities and my gear sets wrong, so one got me off the bat. But other than that didn’t even notice the change.
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      LordSemaj wrote: »
      The majority of people I see complaining in game about gankers have the same common problem.

      ap101018123881-ca0472fba716df4b485fff878b558284cdc89ab9-s300-c85.jpg

      Stacking stamina or magicka and ignoring health entirely works in a PVE setting where the tank is taking all the heavy damage and a healer is keeping you alive against constant predictable damage, and even then you have to dodge stuff constantly to stay alive. It doesn't work in a PVP environment where the damage is random, the tank can't hold aggro, the healer is trying to cleanse you of Major Defile, and you decided to show up with no anti-crit gear.

      Not even that. One, yes ONE skill slot and they never have to worry about getting ganked from stealth again, PvE health or not.
      nekura wrote: »
      I have Miat's installed just for the resource / keep overlays, had the dodge now thing disabled. I've been noticing this ping noise whenever someone attacks me. I have this pavlovian reaction now after a night of playing. I haven't looked into it yet, but it seems like projectiles when the sound executes.

      If that's the case, it's still just as bad as getting channel notifications.

      You have ALWAYS been able to hear an arrow from snipe heading towards you (whistling sound). You have ALWAYS been able to hear when an enemy is near you (danger drums). The only issue is that you can't isolate that sound from every other due to the limited control you have over the audio.

      The only thing that has changed is that the API no longer provides a hook for LUA programmers to display what the sound is telling you. However, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to monitor when a specific sound file is called for and convert that to something more noticeable...



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