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Extremely dangerous housing storage bug still exists! Don't delete your characters!
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craftycarper73✭✭✭✭✭and zos says nothing lol there waiting till you have all wasted a ton of money on stuff till they fix it.
any other person in any other job who made such a serious error would be sacked on the spot.Born, Bred & Made in Manchester UK, RIP 22 Angels. 22/05/2017
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It’s ace, it’s the best and the songs that we sing
From the stands, from our bands set the whole planet shaking
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that this is the place that has helped shape the world
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Led a Suffragette City with sisterhood pride
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Where go-getters and goal setters know they’ve a chance
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And me Mam lived and died here, she loved it she did
And this is the place where our folks came to work
Where they struggled in puddles, they hurt in the dirt
And they built us a city. They built us these towns
And they coughed on the cobbles to the deafening sound
Of the steaming machines and the screaming of slaves
They were scheming for greatness, they dreamed to their graves
And they left us a spirit, they left us a vibe
The Mancunian Way to survive and to thrive
And to work and to build, to connect and create and
Greater Manchester’s greatness is keeping it great
And so this is the place now we’ve kids of our own
Some are born here, some drawn here but we all call it home
And they’ve covered the cobbles, but they’ll never defeat
All the dreamers and schemers who still teem through these streets
Because this is a place that has been through some hard times
Oppressions, recessions, depressions and dark times
But we keep fighting back with Greater Manchester spirit
Northern grit, northern wit in Greater Manchester’s lyrics
And there’s hard times again in these streets of our city
But we won’t take defeat and we don’t want your pity
Because this a place where we stand strong together
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Because this is the place that’s a part of our bones
‘Cos Greater Manchester gives us such strength from the fact
That this is the place. We should give something back.
Always remember. Never forget. Forever Manchester.5 -
Ydrisselle✭✭✭✭✭Tavore1138 wrote: »So if we don't delete anyone (or clear chests before doing so) we are safe?
I think it's safe to delete if you log in a toon you keep before deleting the character.1 -
SolidusPrime✭✭✭✭The housing storage chests should of never went live until this problem was fixed. Whats even worse, ZOS knew about the problem and still included the chests. Then strike three, they are waiting to fix the problem instead of doing it ASAP.
Every update or new DLC the same old [snip]
Ya, this is pretty unacceptable honestly. They didn't even WARN anyone...[snip]
[edited for bashing & to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 15, 2023 6:59PM4 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If only you guys had purchased more loot crates, this all could have been avoided.8 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This has got to be the worst new update and DLC ever. Packed full of bugs, load screen issues, sound issues and a ZOS created exploit that has players being banned. What makes it worse is ZOS was aware of many of the issues from the PTS and still went live anyways. This storage chest problem being one of them.
Glad I read this was going to transfer all my Mule characters storage gear to the new chests. Will wait now.
Agreed, plus the problem with this is that it discourages people from playing on the PTS as they see no point if their bug reports are being ignored the whole time. You just end up with prospective cheats playing the PTS to spot the exploits for early advantage when the update goes live. I stress that this is not the case at the moment, but it will become so if people lose all confidence in the developer's ability to act on PTS reports before pushing updates live.
This DLC sounds like a pretty horrendous update, not that that excuses any exploiting of course. I think I'll continue with a couple of other games for a day or two while ZOS sort things out.8 -
Ermiq✭✭✭✭✭
✭preedb16_ESO2 wrote: »Funny thing. BankManagerRevived addon deposits items in my bank when I open a housing chest. For those who don't know what it means, this addon can deposit specific items automaticaly, and it does this through a housing chests, so, chests are working as a bank extention actually. But why this bug is exists then?
Really LOL? Did you check inside the storage box that the items didnt just go into that, because the addon THINKS its depositing it into your bank? Or does it actually transfer into the bank and not the box?
Why the bug exists? Only the marvelous minds of the zenimax developer that programmed the boxes could answer that..
Yeah, I had checked this. Items are going to my bank, not in the chest.One of the two of us definitely has gone mad. It only remains to define whether this one is the whole world or just me.
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Sick&tired of being kicked off from your house when you complete a dungeon? ComingBackHome addon is what you need!
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DMBCML✭✭✭Snowfaeriewings wrote: »I lost 90-100 pieces of gear... And support wants me to list whats missing?! I dunno what she had.. a bunch of trials sets and stuff waiting for alts to level! SIGH
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ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ydrisselle wrote: »Tavore1138 wrote: »So if we don't delete anyone (or clear chests before doing so) we are safe?
I think it's safe to delete if you log in a toon you keep before deleting the character.
Can someone verify that this is actually true... that you just have to log into a character you plan to keep BEFORE deleting a character and everything will be safe.Edited by ADarklore on February 13, 2018 2:35PMCP: 1965 ** ESO+ Gold Road ** ~~ Stamina Arcanist ~~ Magicka Warden ~~ Magicka Templar ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****0 -
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Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
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ValkynSketha✭✭✭✭✭Inventory Rollback should be done, too many peoble got their items lost, pretty sure zos don't have a customer support to handle 5 at the same time, so just rollback i guess.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ValkynSketha wrote: »Inventory Rollback should be done, too many peoble got their items lost, pretty sure zos don't have a customer support to handle 5 at the same time, so just rollback i guess.
So you'd appease one group of people, but what about those who spent HOURS creating new Outfits? They would lose all of their work and I doubt most people take the time to write down their outfit armor combinations and colors. Thus, how do you make one group happy without p*ssing off the other? This along with those who created new characters and spent hours leveling them, what about their time? There's a lot more to consider before doing a rollback.CP: 1965 ** ESO+ Gold Road ** ~~ Stamina Arcanist ~~ Magicka Warden ~~ Magicka Templar ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****4 -
Slurg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think they should just restore the accounts of the players reporting a loss - and then give them a free character slot for their trouble. I have to wonder how many people were only doing this because they were told they’d have to either delete a character or pay for a new slot to get level up rewards.
ZOS, please give these people their character and their stuff back and just give them the slot - they’ve been through enough trouble.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
Remembering better days of less RNG in all the things.9 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭We all better be careful. These people might start getting banned. This is a obvious exploit the get around the item deletion process.7 -
red_emu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I love how people think they have been playing a live version of the game. You are playing Elder Scrolls Online Alpha! PTS is just early pre-alpha access. The proper, finished game will be released in 2087.Edited by red_emu on February 13, 2018 3:09PMPC - EU:
Falathren Noctis - AD MagNecro
Falathren - AD StamSorc
Falathren Eryndaer - AD StamDen
Falathren Irimion - AD MagPlar
Talagan Falathren - AD StamDK
Falathren Infernis - AD MagDK
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SGT_Wolfe101st✭✭✭✭✭OrdoHermetica wrote: »Interesting. I wonder why account-bound items are getting flagged to a specific character?
Would placing those items in the bank, withdrawing them with a character you don’t intend to delete, and then placing them in a chest “bind” them to the permanent character?
If so, that would be an easy workaround.
Easier workaround would just be to withdraw all items from the chest onto a different character prior to deleting your extra character. One fewer step, and less risky.
How about the system doesn't delete items in the chest? That's a pretty cool "work around"!!!!!!!!!!!PS4 -NA ADWood Elf - StamNB - DPSNord - MagDK - TankHigh Elf - MagSorc - DPSDark Elf - Mag Warden- Healer2 -
Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭How about inventory roll back and a fix of the bug @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Maybe a roll back only for the accounts affected ?
This is a game breaking bug.Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
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SGT_Wolfe101st✭✭✭✭✭Seriously how has no one from Zos not commented yet? We have all kinds of comments on the XP exploit and what they are going to do to those nasty XP hoarders but people are losing bound items and its crickets. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , guys hello?PS4 -NA ADWood Elf - StamNB - DPSNord - MagDK - TankHigh Elf - MagSorc - DPSDark Elf - Mag Warden- Healer8
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SisterGoat✭✭✭✭✭Ydrisselle wrote: »Tavore1138 wrote: »So if we don't delete anyone (or clear chests before doing so) we are safe?
I think it's safe to delete if you log in a toon you keep before deleting the character.
In another thread, somebody said ANY character. Best to play it safe and remove any bound items from the coffers before deleting.Jumps-In-Water - Magicka Templar
Dar'akar - Stamina Nightblade
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Tavore1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think I will just put everything back where it was for now and not use the new storage - not willing to be one of the people who finds out what else is bugged and has to spend weeks with support going slowly crazier...GM - Malazan
Raid Leader - Hungry Wolves
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Ydrisselle✭✭✭✭✭SisterGoat wrote: »Ydrisselle wrote: »Tavore1138 wrote: »So if we don't delete anyone (or clear chests before doing so) we are safe?
I think it's safe to delete if you log in a toon you keep before deleting the character.
In another thread, somebody said ANY character. Best to play it safe and remove any bound items from the coffers before deleting.
Yeah, that's a good solution too.
Or just waiting for the fix (I think it's already fixed on the PTS).0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I thought that got fixed on the PTS. Or was it a similar bug and this is a new one?
No, it's clearly the same as this one: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/388883/pts-update-17-bug-reports-for-home-storage#latest
They didn't fix it. Just like they didn't fix bar swap delays and other issues.
Sometimes it feels like they take pts week 1 patch instead of the last final one lol. I mean how else can stuff like this happen? I have no experience in coding etc tho, if someone could explain.
In this case they, clearly, did not, because some of the functionality that wasn't there week one is present, including actually having the hide helmet collectible, instead of it being marked as "not collected," after it was dumped into our collections tab.
No, this was the final iteration, just, you know, all these issues went live.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ydrisselle wrote: »Tavore1138 wrote: »So if we don't delete anyone (or clear chests before doing so) we are safe?
I think it's safe to delete if you log in a toon you keep before deleting the character.
Can someone verify that this is actually true... that you just have to log into a character you plan to keep BEFORE deleting a character and everything will be safe.
No, it's not true. The bug seems to be that deleting a character will cause all bound items in the chests to be purged.0 -
Ermiq✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ydrisselle wrote: »Tavore1138 wrote: »So if we don't delete anyone (or clear chests before doing so) we are safe?
I think it's safe to delete if you log in a toon you keep before deleting the character.
Can someone verify that this is actually true... that you just have to log into a character you plan to keep BEFORE deleting a character and everything will be safe.
Yes, logging in another toon AND opening the chests seems to re-bound all items to this toon and then items won't be lost. Note that you have to go to the house with this character and you have to open chests, that's important, otherwise you still can get your items lost.
But you shouldn't take that risk. No one can garantee anything so far. You'd better withdraw all items from chests and then you can delete character with no risks.Edited by Ermiq on February 13, 2018 5:03PMOne of the two of us definitely has gone mad. It only remains to define whether this one is the whole world or just me.
PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
Sick&tired of being kicked off from your house when you complete a dungeon? ComingBackHome addon is what you need!
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Jarryzzt✭✭✭✭Have I posted in this thread? Feels like there is a million of them...on this bug, I mean.
1. Yesterday, somewhere, Gina Bruno posted that the fix was in the first incremental patch. Whenever that is supposed to be applied, if it hasn't been applied already. This is in one of the bug threads, but I do not recall which one.
So yes, beat ZOS up for not putting the fix in earlier, but they are aware of the issue and a fix does exist.
2. One of the users testing the bug reported that it does not occur (for them) if a different character goes to the house with the chests before deleting the character you wish to delete. It isn't just logging on or logging off, you have to visit the chest location. But that was just one individual in one of the threads, so the safest route is to just not delete anybody for a time.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »
@starkerealmstarkerealm wrote: »Test 1: Create test character, immediately log out and delete: Chest Intact.
Test 2: Select previously existing test character, deposit item, leave house, log out and delete: Chest Intact
Test 3: Create test character, immediately port to house, log out and delete: Chest Intact.
It's possible this has been fixed in the current PTS build. Or there may be another factor.
Bait items were three green recipes, a sip of health, and three furnishing items (two purple, one green).
All testing was done with storage chests, not storage coffers, that was an oversight.
Only bound items going to be lost. Recipes, potions and furnishings (unless they're from Crown Store) are not bound. That's why these items wasn't lost.
Okay, I'll take another look at it in the morning.
Day 2
Bait: Oblivion's Edge in each chest and coffer (not counting the levelup coffer). (Deposited from a template.)
Test 1: Create character, Delete: Chest Intact.
Bait update: Template Undaunted Infiltrator, deposited to Tythus. Deposited to bank by "Starke-Test-Delete"
Test 2: Create Character, Deposit Undaunted Infiltrator into Chests, leave house, log out and delete: AND WE HAVE A WINNER! All 14 items are gone. All bound items are toast. Unbound items remain.Edited by starkerealm on February 13, 2018 6:16PM0 -
HidesFromSun✭✭✭Wow, first the 12 hour downtime on EU, now this ridiculously dangerous bug. I'm sorry ZOS but this patch has been a disaster...4 -
Erraln✭✭✭✭✭Have I posted in this thread? Feels like there is a million of them...on this bug, I mean.
1. Yesterday, somewhere, Gina Bruno posted that the fix was in the first incremental patch. Whenever that is supposed to be applied, if it hasn't been applied already. This is in one of the bug threads, but I do not recall which one.
So yes, beat ZOS up for not putting the fix in earlier, but they are aware of the issue and a fix does exist.
2. One of the users testing the bug reported that it does not occur (for them) if a different character goes to the house with the chests before deleting the character you wish to delete. It isn't just logging on or logging off, you have to visit the chest location. But that was just one individual in one of the threads, so the safest route is to just not delete anybody for a time.
Yep, number two was me... Precisely what happened was I deposited items with a template, logged it out, logged in a different template that was already inside the house in question, logged it right back out, and then deleted the depositing character.
Just loading into the house seemed to have marked the chest items as safe, but please don't take my word for it on Live. If you want to fiddle with this do it on PTS where you won't actually be losing anything of yours.Edited by Erraln on February 13, 2018 7:02PM0 -
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So yes, beat ZOS up for not putting the fix in earlier, but they are aware of the issue and a fix does exist.
I think the point that most people are trying to make here is that ZOS should not release updates with known bugs, especially if a fix is in the works for the near future. What's occurred here is that they set their release date for the DLC, and decided to stick with it regardless of whatever happened during testing.
Another rushed roll out that proves ZOS has learned nothing from all their previous mistakes.
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